1) Levi starts this thread and makes his case in the OP
2) people reply explaining why they disagree with Levi's idea
3) Levi then proceeds to repeat the same basic case he made in the OP over and over, which is essentially spamming.
Levi, if your OP did not convince people that your idea is good, then spamming the same thing over and over isnt going to either. You've made your case, people dont like the idea, now get over it.
So are you suggesting that someone starts a thread and people reply to that thread - then the OP just sits back and never comments or replies? And if the OP does reply then its spamming?
I would like to see Klingons and Romulans as
Allies to the Federation NOT part of the federation
No ship weapon or tech sharing
Only general items and restricted clothing shared
Being able to team together would be nice
I want the Klingons to keep There separate identity
And unique technologies
United against a common enemy would be great
For the game overall I think
New clothing, ships, technology, missions could be shared
Making it's creation easier for the Devs and more content
For everyone.
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
So are you suggesting that someone starts a thread and people reply to that thread - then the OP just sits back and never comments or replies? And if the OP does reply then its spamming?
Not at all. If the OP actually has something new to add to the discussion, then well and good. But if the OP keeps repeating the same argument over and over and over, that is spamming. Like I said, if your argument in the OP didnt convince people that your idea is good, then spamming them with the same thing over and over isnt going to either.
Look at it this way, the Federation are Buddhist monks seeking peace, wisdom, and understanding. The Empire is a bunch of Space Viking obsessed with conquest and battle.
While they can work together given enough reason too, the appeals and experiences both have to offer are very, very different.
It doesn't need to happen. It shouldn't happen. It would be very bad if it did happen.
I could say it's human nature, but in this case humanoid nature that people will find a reason to fight each other even if there is no logical reason for doing so. Klingons, Romulans and the Federation may ally themselves together to overcome the threat of the Borg or the Iconians, but once that threat is overcome they will eventually find reason to again be at each other's throats. From a game perspective it's more interesting if any alliance between these different powers is uneasy at best, there are more possibilities for intriguing game elements if the various parties are pursuing private agendas that may not be of benefit to their allies. Peaceful co-operation is not a very important element in a game so heavily combat oriented and all factions co-existing peacefully is essentially an end-game scenario which is not a positive development for an online MMO that hopes to have a future.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
The tiny little problem with your hypothetical chancellor is he would probably be assassinated very quickly(for throwing parties for klingon murderers), meaning the entire story explanation for such a system would fall apart.
I'm not sure J'mpok should fare any better.
Implicit in the existing story is that J'mpok has brainwashed the whole high council and has the Orions backing him. New guy could take over for J'mpok in that regard.
Just been on tribble, and running about doing namby pamby fetch quests for the romulans just feels plain wrong - since when did war hardened generals run round after a bunch of civilians finding their lost homework, encouraging them not to be lazy by asking nicely, and fixing their expresso machines?
You see, some houses would be okay with that because they're getting their hands in more pies, and now the Romulans owe them something. Other houses would be more into pillaging and burning.
No, I like fighting feds with my kdf! Killing rookies in pvp, killing fed mobs fighting for "freedom", etc. Let me be the bad guy if I want to. :mad:
Just because we've ended the war, doesn't mean we have to stop fighting. There will still be boarder skirmishes, planet/trade disputes, territory wars, resource disagreements and piracy.
Ending the war would simply allow the story to advance.
No, I like fighting feds with my kdf! Killing rookies in pvp, killing fed mobs fighting for "freedom", etc. Let me be the bad guy if I want to. :mad:
I just don't think there needs to be a war to do that. Klingons have been doing that for centuries, with or without political backing.
Heck, the Klingons in Star Trek V just tagged along because they were bored and wanted to shoot at Starfleet ships. That was during a period where there were pretty extensive diplomatic ties, even if the diplomacy wasn't going anywhere, and there was certainly no war.
Heck, I think in all of canon, there's less than a week where the Federation and Klingons were at war. It's unnecessary as a pretense for them to fight.
I could say it's human nature, but in this case humanoid nature that people will find a reason to fight each other even if there is no logical reason for doing so. Klingons, Romulans and the Federation may ally themselves together to overcome the threat of the Borg or the Iconians, but once that threat is overcome they will eventually find reason to again be at each other's throats. From a game perspective it's more interesting if any alliance between these different powers is uneasy at best, there are more possibilities for intriguing game elements if the various parties are pursuing private agendas that may not be of benefit to their allies. Peaceful co-operation is not a very important element in a game so heavily combat oriented and all factions co-existing peacefully is essentially an end-game scenario which is not a positive development for an online MMO that hopes to have a future.
Very good points - but there really is no real end game conflict going on now is there?
Ever look at the Fed vs KDF pvp Q's - ghost town - dead - no Feds
So the conflict aspect of the game is already a non-starter. This game is almost entirely PVE - so why have factions at war?
Heck, I think in all of canon, there's less than a week where the Federation and Klingons were at war. It's unnecessary as a pretense for them to fight.
All that does is allow them to fight on a larger scale. Since that hasn't really been an option.... I see no reason we can't go back to what was going on before.
So the conflict aspect of the game is already a non-starter. This game is almost entirely PVE - so why have factions at war?
You don't.
As mentioned in this thread, we don't need to be at war to fight each other. In fact, it would be better, (and far closer to the spirit of Trek) if it were territory wars and piracy. The only reason we are at war is so we can fight on a larger scale. That really isn't happening now is it? :P
Not at all. If the OP actually has something new to add to the discussion, then well and good. But if the OP keeps repeating the same argument over and over and over, that is spamming. Like I said, if your argument in the OP didnt convince people that your idea is good, then spamming them with the same thing over and over isnt going to either.
Your Avatar is Romulan? Do you consider yourself like that faction - subterfuge and misdiection? I think you failed - who says I have responded to the people I was tryiny to convince? I think you should go back to the OP and read the last line again.
who says I have responded to the people I was tryiny to convince?
Since actions speak louder than words, you did. All you have to do is read through this thread to see you trying to convince people your idea is good, but just repeating the same basic things over and over again. You have repeatedly stated that you think this makes the most business sense for Cryptic. You have repeatedly stated that you play a KDF character and think you have seen less and less people playing. And those were valid, if incorrect, thoughts the first time you said them. But spamming them over and over isnt going to convince someone who wasnt convinced the first time you said them.
Since actions speak louder than words, you did. All you have to do is read through this thread to see you trying to convince people your idea is good, but just repeating the same basic things over and over again. You have repeatedly stated that you think this makes the most business sense for Cryptic. And those were valid thoughts the first time you said them, but spamming them over and over isnt going to convince someone who wasnt convinced the first time.
You are still not getting it are you? Read the last line of the post again "Please Discuss. I see this as a definite winning stratagey for Cryptic."
How could I know whether or not I convinced them? They have not responded in this thread yet.
Your Avatar is Romulan? Do you consider yourself like that faction - subterfuge and misdiection? I think you failed - who says I have responded to the people I was tryiny to convince? I think you should go back to the OP and read the last line again.
Sorry levi, but I'm with lillith on this one.
People have come up with many good reasons of why this should not happen, and all you've done is defend yourself. If you can come up with one good reason that merging KDF with the Federation would benefit both sides, then you've made your point. But the only thing you've been arguing, is that it would "allow the Devs to be lazy".
You are still not getting it are you? Read the last line of the post again "Please Discuss. I see this as a definite winning stratagey for Cryptic."
How could I know whether or not I convinced them? They have not responded in this thread yet.
If you mean a dev has not replied in this thread yet, that is correct. However that does not change the fact that you have been spamming your same argument over and over to various people who have disagreed with you in this thread. And it is those people who I refer to when I say that if you did not convince them the first time you said it, then spamming it over and over isnt going to convince them either.
If you mean a dev has not replied in this thread yet, that is correct. However that does not change the fact that you have been spamming your same argument over and over to various people who have disagreed with you in this thread. And it is those people who I refer to when I say that if you did not convince them the first time you said it, then spamming it over and over isnt going to convince them either.
It doesn't matter whether or not he's spamming, the problem with his argument is that it's not strong enough. "Allowing someone to be lazy" is never a good argument.
All that does is allow them to fight on a larger scale. Since that hasn't really been an option.... I see no reason we can't go back to what was going on before.
For me, the perk of ending the war is that it doesn't rule out continuing or expanding the fighting we have and it allows Klingons to queue for more events.
I also like the idea of both factions having full content that they can team up and share. So if a Klingon wants to play a Fed mission or vice versa, they can simply team to share it. (Just like a lower level player can now.)
The only real problems are with Second Star to the Right and the Runabout mission. Just tinker those to make them missions against the Terran Empire.
If you mean a dev has not replied in this thread yet, that is correct. However that does not change the fact that you have been spamming your same argument over and over to various people who have disagreed with you in this thread. And it is those people who I refer to when I say that if you did not convince them the first time you said it, then spamming it over and over isnt going to convince them either.
Well my idea is directly targeted at Cryptic. You are wrong about the spamming. In fact quite a large number of my responses we to say that their ideas were good ones, and were also good possible solutions. It seems to me that you are more concerned with this idea going away then anything else.
Many people who don;t like the total merge with the UFP have offered very good alternative ideas which should also help Cryptic make decisions - if they choose to listen. Your attempt to villianize me or make it seem like I am harassing people is not very effective.
Perhaps you would like to again(?) add some constructive ideas on how Cyptic can solve the multi-faction idea(including bringing in the Romulans) for the least amount of money spent and the most amount of financial return? Because in the end that is ALL that matters to a business.
Well good to see things never change here, thanks for entertaining me during this hard time on the east coast since I still don't have power and very limited Internet.
My two cents
End the war, don't merge the factions make them alilies but separate....won't change how PVP is. As for PVE cryptic would still have to make KDF only stories even with the war over from the POV of the KDF doing their part in the war with whoever the big bad guys are going to be, also continue the Feklar story...hey OP ever think that's what Dan ment about finishing things up with the KDF being that was left open ended the Feklar and Hurqe.
Anywho no need to merge factions and share ships only change I could see is KDF on ESD and vice versa.
Sorry for grammar and spelling errors I have bigger things on the mind then making this pretty thanks .. :P
1. PvP has been dead for a long time b/c there's been vertually no resources put into it.
I can log into EvE Online in the middle of the week and see over 30k players are logged in on a slow day. It's mainly full of PvPers. I'll be lucky to have a run in the PvP queues not show the same opponents for each match in this game. Please stop w/the myth PvP MMOs don't pay, it's the Dev's choices which made PvP bad. If they chose to make a quality MMO scaled PvP that wasn't so heavily P2W they'd have new players who enjoy Space MMO PVP. Why? There are no other Space MMOs where you can fly around like you can here including EvE Online.
2. There's no reason to merge the factions if you end the war or not. There are reasons as others have mentioned why not to:
I. It screws up existing storyline missions.
II. It's extremely uncannon to have KDF as a Member of the Federation.
III. It's extremely uncannon and boring to have all Factions having equal access to all things the otherside has.
IV. The fact there's already uncannon TRIBBLE in this game shouldn't be a justification for piling on more.
3. It's too soon to end the war if for no other reason than it's not felt like it's really started.
4. There's even less incentive to have Open Sector PvP. Not that I believe it'll come given current mgt, but personally I'm an unhappy camper to put it nicely. There was no reason to make another Sector if it wasn't going to be an Open PvP Sector. As it is, I don't spend time in 1/2 the Sectors already in the game. The already have 2 Sectors which were supposed to be Romulan.
5. I'm not going to absolve Cryptic Mgt of their poor choices and agree w/yet another one just so they can cut their supposed loses in KDF/PvP Dev time when next to zero Dev time has been put in those areas.
Further, there's still nothing of gameplay depth they've added to this game this year even when focusing primarily on Fed side development. We've had:
I. One F.E. littered w/lock boxes.
II. A one off KDF mission a Dev did on his/her own time.
III. A seasonal mini mission I believe this was done on a Dev's own time as well.
IV. The grind fest which is STF revamp, Doff Mission, and Fleet Starbases.
V. Crappy code merger which saw old bugs return.
VI. Tribble of Season 7 which appears to be yet another grind fest.
VII. More currencies, massive P2W power creep, and even gambling.
We haven't had:
I. Level 1 and up KDF play experience.
II. Non grinding endgame content. PvE or PvP.
III. Exploration update.
IV. PvP update.
V. PvP Foundry capabilities.
VI. Decent Crafting capabilities.
So, even if you feel there could be more Dev time if factions were merged, I fail to see how it would be spent on anything I would want as a consumer.
[Zone] Dack@****: cowards can't take a fed 1 on 1 crinckley cowards Hahahaha you smell like flowers
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
Perhaps you would like to again(?) add some constructive ideas on how Cyptic can solve the multi-faction idea(including bringing in the Romulans) for the least amount of money spent and the most amount of financial return? Because in the end that is ALL that matters to a business.
It depends on whether you mean a quick, temporary return or a long lasting return. If you mean a quick, temporary return, then your idea of merging all the factions would be cheap and allow them to start selling romulan ships in the c-store and start making money quikcly. However, after people realized how meaningless the different factions had become and stop paying or playing, that would not be a continued source of revenue for Cryptic. Something with depth that encouraged long term play would require more time to develop, but would create a longer revenue stream.
For me, the perk of ending the war is that it doesn't rule out continuing or expanding the fighting we have and it allows Klingons to queue for more events.
Exactly. And if we add the Klingon House idea, that opens up even more possibilities.
I also like the idea of both factions having full content that they can team up and share. So if a Klingon wants to play a Fed mission or vice versa, they can simply team to share it. (Just like a lower level player can now.)
Eh... I don't really see this happening. I can see a few places were it would be neat, but I think that faction exclusive content should remain faction exclusive.
Now a feature episode that required you to team with someone else regardless of faction? Now there's an idea. :P
Well good to see things never change here, thanks for entertaining me during this hard time on the east coast since I still don't have power and very limited Internet.
My two cents
End the war, don't merge the factions make them alilies but separate....won't change how PVP is. As for PVE cryptic would still have to make KDF only stories even with the war over from the POV of the KDF doing their part in the war with whoever the big bad guys are going to be, also continue the Feklar story...hey OP ever think that's what Dan ment about finishing things up with the KDF being that was left open ended the Feklar and Hurqe.
Anywho no need to merge factions and share ships only change I could see is KDF on ESD and vice versa.
Sorry for grammar and spelling errors I have bigger things on the mind then making this pretty thanks .. :P
Although sometimes we clash - always good to here from you. Also some good ideas - I hope by me saying this you doing think I'm spamming?
1. PvP has been dead for a long time b/c there's been vertually no resources put into it. .
I am not arguing that PvP is dead for no reason -there are tons of reasons. I have also said many many times, in many threads that the decline of the KDF is due to neglect. That is not in dispute. The only question remains is what will Cryptic do - I think through their recent moves they are much more concerned with a quick turn-over of players that relies on a lot of smaller type transactions. This cannot be accomplished by fleshing out the factions as it would be to costly. What they want in my opinion is - least money in - most money out - and moderate turn-over or chum as I think the industry term is.
II. It's extremely uncannon to have KDF as a Member of the Federation.
This is incorrect - In one timeline from the Ent series the Klingon empire becomes part of the UFP in the future. Therefore the idea of the KDF joining the UFP "is" canon.
This is incorrect - In one timeline from the Ent series the Klingon empire becomes part of the UFP in the future. Therefore the idea of the KDF joining the UFP "is" canon.
Using ENT for any argument for canonisity is a bad idea. :P
But in order for something to be considered canon it had to appear in 1 of the series or movies right?
So by definition the KDF joining the UFP in the future timeline is "canon"
It was a joke. All of the things dealing with time travel in ENT were terrible. Together with Voyager, it's the reason I utterly despise time travel as a plot device.
And besides, lots of "Future" timelines have not happened, so that doesn't prove anything.
It was a joke. All of the things dealing with time travel in ENT were terrible. Together with Voyager, it's the reason I utterly despise time travel as a plot device.
And besides, lots of "Future" timelines have not happened, so that doesn't prove anything.
canon's place in STO was thrown out the airlock in a lonnggg time ago - so it's a mute point anyways.
From then on out it was and has been pretty much no holds barred.
Comments
So are you suggesting that someone starts a thread and people reply to that thread - then the OP just sits back and never comments or replies? And if the OP does reply then its spamming?
Allies to the Federation NOT part of the federation
No ship weapon or tech sharing
Only general items and restricted clothing shared
Being able to team together would be nice
I want the Klingons to keep There separate identity
And unique technologies
United against a common enemy would be great
For the game overall I think
New clothing, ships, technology, missions could be shared
Making it's creation easier for the Devs and more content
For everyone.
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Not at all. If the OP actually has something new to add to the discussion, then well and good. But if the OP keeps repeating the same argument over and over and over, that is spamming. Like I said, if your argument in the OP didnt convince people that your idea is good, then spamming them with the same thing over and over isnt going to either.
While they can work together given enough reason too, the appeals and experiences both have to offer are very, very different.
It doesn't need to happen. It shouldn't happen. It would be very bad if it did happen.
I'm not sure J'mpok should fare any better.
Implicit in the existing story is that J'mpok has brainwashed the whole high council and has the Orions backing him. New guy could take over for J'mpok in that regard.
You see, some houses would be okay with that because they're getting their hands in more pies, and now the Romulans owe them something. Other houses would be more into pillaging and burning.
Just because we've ended the war, doesn't mean we have to stop fighting. There will still be boarder skirmishes, planet/trade disputes, territory wars, resource disagreements and piracy.
Ending the war would simply allow the story to advance.
I just don't think there needs to be a war to do that. Klingons have been doing that for centuries, with or without political backing.
Heck, the Klingons in Star Trek V just tagged along because they were bored and wanted to shoot at Starfleet ships. That was during a period where there were pretty extensive diplomatic ties, even if the diplomacy wasn't going anywhere, and there was certainly no war.
Heck, I think in all of canon, there's less than a week where the Federation and Klingons were at war. It's unnecessary as a pretense for them to fight.
Very good points - but there really is no real end game conflict going on now is there?
Ever look at the Fed vs KDF pvp Q's - ghost town - dead - no Feds
So the conflict aspect of the game is already a non-starter. This game is almost entirely PVE - so why have factions at war?
All that does is allow them to fight on a larger scale. Since that hasn't really been an option.... I see no reason we can't go back to what was going on before.
You don't.
As mentioned in this thread, we don't need to be at war to fight each other. In fact, it would be better, (and far closer to the spirit of Trek) if it were territory wars and piracy. The only reason we are at war is so we can fight on a larger scale. That really isn't happening now is it? :P
Your Avatar is Romulan? Do you consider yourself like that faction - subterfuge and misdiection? I think you failed - who says I have responded to the people I was tryiny to convince? I think you should go back to the OP and read the last line again.
Since actions speak louder than words, you did. All you have to do is read through this thread to see you trying to convince people your idea is good, but just repeating the same basic things over and over again. You have repeatedly stated that you think this makes the most business sense for Cryptic. You have repeatedly stated that you play a KDF character and think you have seen less and less people playing. And those were valid, if incorrect, thoughts the first time you said them. But spamming them over and over isnt going to convince someone who wasnt convinced the first time you said them.
You are still not getting it are you? Read the last line of the post again "Please Discuss. I see this as a definite winning stratagey for Cryptic."
How could I know whether or not I convinced them? They have not responded in this thread yet.
Sorry levi, but I'm with lillith on this one.
People have come up with many good reasons of why this should not happen, and all you've done is defend yourself. If you can come up with one good reason that merging KDF with the Federation would benefit both sides, then you've made your point. But the only thing you've been arguing, is that it would "allow the Devs to be lazy".
That's not good enough.
If you mean a dev has not replied in this thread yet, that is correct. However that does not change the fact that you have been spamming your same argument over and over to various people who have disagreed with you in this thread. And it is those people who I refer to when I say that if you did not convince them the first time you said it, then spamming it over and over isnt going to convince them either.
It doesn't matter whether or not he's spamming, the problem with his argument is that it's not strong enough. "Allowing someone to be lazy" is never a good argument.
For me, the perk of ending the war is that it doesn't rule out continuing or expanding the fighting we have and it allows Klingons to queue for more events.
I also like the idea of both factions having full content that they can team up and share. So if a Klingon wants to play a Fed mission or vice versa, they can simply team to share it. (Just like a lower level player can now.)
The only real problems are with Second Star to the Right and the Runabout mission. Just tinker those to make them missions against the Terran Empire.
I disagree for 2 reasons:
1) spamming the same thing argument over and over does not lead to a productive discussion
2)
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/announcement.php?f=128&a=51
Though I wont go so far as to call his posts "gibberish", he has certainly posted the same and or similar phrases repeatedly in this thread.
Well my idea is directly targeted at Cryptic. You are wrong about the spamming. In fact quite a large number of my responses we to say that their ideas were good ones, and were also good possible solutions. It seems to me that you are more concerned with this idea going away then anything else.
Many people who don;t like the total merge with the UFP have offered very good alternative ideas which should also help Cryptic make decisions - if they choose to listen. Your attempt to villianize me or make it seem like I am harassing people is not very effective.
Perhaps you would like to again(?) add some constructive ideas on how Cyptic can solve the multi-faction idea(including bringing in the Romulans) for the least amount of money spent and the most amount of financial return? Because in the end that is ALL that matters to a business.
My two cents
End the war, don't merge the factions make them alilies but separate....won't change how PVP is. As for PVE cryptic would still have to make KDF only stories even with the war over from the POV of the KDF doing their part in the war with whoever the big bad guys are going to be, also continue the Feklar story...hey OP ever think that's what Dan ment about finishing things up with the KDF being that was left open ended the Feklar and Hurqe.
Anywho no need to merge factions and share ships only change I could see is KDF on ESD and vice versa.
Sorry for grammar and spelling errors I have bigger things on the mind then making this pretty thanks .. :P
I can log into EvE Online in the middle of the week and see over 30k players are logged in on a slow day. It's mainly full of PvPers. I'll be lucky to have a run in the PvP queues not show the same opponents for each match in this game. Please stop w/the myth PvP MMOs don't pay, it's the Dev's choices which made PvP bad. If they chose to make a quality MMO scaled PvP that wasn't so heavily P2W they'd have new players who enjoy Space MMO PVP. Why? There are no other Space MMOs where you can fly around like you can here including EvE Online.
2. There's no reason to merge the factions if you end the war or not. There are reasons as others have mentioned why not to:
I. It screws up existing storyline missions.
II. It's extremely uncannon to have KDF as a Member of the Federation.
III. It's extremely uncannon and boring to have all Factions having equal access to all things the otherside has.
IV. The fact there's already uncannon TRIBBLE in this game shouldn't be a justification for piling on more.
3. It's too soon to end the war if for no other reason than it's not felt like it's really started.
4. There's even less incentive to have Open Sector PvP. Not that I believe it'll come given current mgt, but personally I'm an unhappy camper to put it nicely. There was no reason to make another Sector if it wasn't going to be an Open PvP Sector. As it is, I don't spend time in 1/2 the Sectors already in the game. The already have 2 Sectors which were supposed to be Romulan.
5. I'm not going to absolve Cryptic Mgt of their poor choices and agree w/yet another one just so they can cut their supposed loses in KDF/PvP Dev time when next to zero Dev time has been put in those areas.
Further, there's still nothing of gameplay depth they've added to this game this year even when focusing primarily on Fed side development. We've had:
I. One F.E. littered w/lock boxes.
II. A one off KDF mission a Dev did on his/her own time.
III. A seasonal mini mission I believe this was done on a Dev's own time as well.
IV. The grind fest which is STF revamp, Doff Mission, and Fleet Starbases.
V. Crappy code merger which saw old bugs return.
VI. Tribble of Season 7 which appears to be yet another grind fest.
VII. More currencies, massive P2W power creep, and even gambling.
We haven't had:
I. Level 1 and up KDF play experience.
II. Non grinding endgame content. PvE or PvP.
III. Exploration update.
IV. PvP update.
V. PvP Foundry capabilities.
VI. Decent Crafting capabilities.
So, even if you feel there could be more Dev time if factions were merged, I fail to see how it would be spent on anything I would want as a consumer.
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
It depends on whether you mean a quick, temporary return or a long lasting return. If you mean a quick, temporary return, then your idea of merging all the factions would be cheap and allow them to start selling romulan ships in the c-store and start making money quikcly. However, after people realized how meaningless the different factions had become and stop paying or playing, that would not be a continued source of revenue for Cryptic. Something with depth that encouraged long term play would require more time to develop, but would create a longer revenue stream.
Exactly. And if we add the Klingon House idea, that opens up even more possibilities.
Eh... I don't really see this happening. I can see a few places were it would be neat, but I think that faction exclusive content should remain faction exclusive.
Now a feature episode that required you to team with someone else regardless of faction? Now there's an idea. :P
Although sometimes we clash - always good to here from you. Also some good ideas - I hope by me saying this you doing think I'm spamming?
Stay safe
I am not arguing that PvP is dead for no reason -there are tons of reasons. I have also said many many times, in many threads that the decline of the KDF is due to neglect. That is not in dispute. The only question remains is what will Cryptic do - I think through their recent moves they are much more concerned with a quick turn-over of players that relies on a lot of smaller type transactions. This cannot be accomplished by fleshing out the factions as it would be to costly. What they want in my opinion is - least money in - most money out - and moderate turn-over or chum as I think the industry term is.
This is incorrect - In one timeline from the Ent series the Klingon empire becomes part of the UFP in the future. Therefore the idea of the KDF joining the UFP "is" canon.
Using ENT for any argument for canonisity is a bad idea. :P
But in order for something to be considered canon it had to appear in 1 of the series or movies right?
So by definition the KDF joining the UFP in the future timeline is "canon"
It was a joke. All of the things dealing with time travel in ENT were terrible. Together with Voyager, it's the reason I utterly despise time travel as a plot device.
And besides, lots of "Future" timelines have not happened, so that doesn't prove anything.
canon's place in STO was thrown out the airlock in a lonnggg time ago - so it's a mute point anyways.
From then on out it was and has been pretty much no holds barred.