When Cryptic "cleaned up the multitude of marks and replaced it with Dilithium, I was completely screwed over... I had enough marks to outfit 10 ships with top-of-the-line gear, + hundreds of other marks that could buy other things, and after the conversion to Dilithium I didn't have enough Dilithium to outfit even one ship!
I think this time I'll just lean back and let them have their way with me. I know it's gonna happen and I can't stop it anyway.
This would be understand able if Dilthium really is time currency. But it far from it. If that where the case everything we do would reward some amount of Dilthium. While there are thing that do there far more that do not.
Such as every story mission. All the Fleet Event items.
This is just taking a game that was fun and little grind and once again turn it into grind feast. But it clear that that what you want reqardless of what we want. Which is why I stop spending on this game.
Correction: It's what PWE wants and Cryptic has to do it or they lose the people paying for their MMOs.
Seriously, stop blaming Cryptic. It's more than likely PWE's idea 50% of the time.
STFs and Fleet Actions will both reward Dilithium as of Season 7.
For Fleet Actions, in addition to the gear drops there is a chance to earn:
Gold: Purple + 2x Dilithium amount
Silver: Purple + 1x Dilithium amount
Bronze: Blue + 1x Dilithium amount
All others: Green + 1x Dilithium amount
So no longer should you receive a "battery" as a Fleet Action reward - it should be at the very least a Green + 1x Dilithium amount (which I think is 480 but don't hold me to that).
This is the other thing that bugs me a lot and again shows me how out of touch you and your team are.
What your saying is in an stf you will have a similar system to say battlefield ? im asusming youve played those games mr stahl ?
At the moment you can get multiple puprle salvage across groups of players where as now your segregating it into gold/silver/bronze etc ?
so how will those positions be measured ? will there be a similar system to pvp scoreboards ? will it be a mesaure of damage or healing ?
the questions raised are endless. Please do elaborate on how this is going to work ? please do enlighten us ? im sure it will reinforce just how ludicrous and silly the coming changes are ?
Im not gonna sit here all night and ask quesitons. At the end of the day itys up to you as an EP to encourage me and persuade me to play STO. If you dont want me playing your game its fine i can take my monies to other MMOS. Because right now your sat there in your glass protected dome with your finngers in your ears "going la la la la" ignoring the people who have supported and played this game and chucked a lot of money at you/cryptic and now PWE nad this is the thanks ?
Oh and smart move leaving zynga. I see they laid off a lot of people in the news today.
dstahl says Effort = reward <-- but clearly that is not the case. if i grind 20 hours i do not get a mk XII instead i need to wait 60 days and play 3 hours every day to get it
that is just horrible
the 8.000 limit on refinement hinders my gameplay aloot.
effort = reward is greatly wrong
If only they fix Cloaking bugg *new message BOOM decloacked.
I wonder how many "reputations" you are planning to add and how "often". Even when I digest the fact I'll have to grind through The Omega fleet rep and it shouldn't really put a strain on my ressources (but it will, since any amount of dil I have to pay diminishes the finite amount I can keep in a given time), there's still the Romulan reputation coming.
I assume it might take about the same amount of ressources and time to complete. That already means 6 1hr sessions per week on ONE Toon.
And that is of course not taking into account the Fleet system, with its new embassy.
Oh well, it piles up, no? :rolleyes:
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
STFs and Fleet Actions will both reward Dilithium as of Season 7.
For Fleet Actions, in addition to the gear drops there is a chance to earn:
Gold: Purple + 2x Dilithium amount
Silver: Purple + 1x Dilithium amount
Bronze: Blue + 1x Dilithium amount
All others: Green + 1x Dilithium amount
So no longer should you receive a "battery" as a Fleet Action reward - it should be at the very least a Green + 1x Dilithium amount (which I think is 480 but don't hold me to that).
....This? wow... Ok. This resolves some of the grind issues...and a few others...I still am NOT a fan of not getting progress rewarded for things i've already done. I dont feel that's right at all. And i have to ask WHY is this being talked about NOW why wasnt it talked about sooner?
- Once we have the final conversion numbers established, we will be updating TRIBBLE with the conversion script so that any character can log in individually and see the amount of Omega Marks, Borg Neural Processors, and Dilithium they will be receiving. This way you'll see exactly what each character will get and you can decide to cash out for Dilithium or not before Season 7.
Ok we will be able to see the amount we will get when the change hits holodeck, but will you release the price requirements or just keep them secret? And say to everyone; well we kept our promise and showed you what you get in the conversion, but you will not know the prices of the items and have to work for 2 months to get to T5 only to find out you have to grind away for another month just to get your gear.
Other words, you have to spend more time and money to get what you originally earned.
Everything else about the system is fine.
The reason we are posting all of this information now is so that players can make a choice if they want to cash out now or save it for the new system.
In essence the old way of STFs are going away in early November when we remove those stores and item drops and start dropping Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors.
It is fair warning that since those stores are going away, you have the opportunity to cash it all out for Dilithium or Gear now. Once the conversion code is in place, you can even log into Tribble and see how many Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors and Dilithiium you'll get if you don't so that you are well informed before you make that decision.
But yes, there is a new system coming. It uses Omega Marks to level up a Reputation system (so does Romulan Marks). When you level up that system, you earn new Captain powers and abilities. These new rewards are intended for all max level Captains as an alternate form of skill progression much like specialization in other games.
In addition, at different tiers, the gear that was previously sold in STF stores can be unlocked and obtained with the new Omega Marks.
It is true that if you don't spend your existing currencies before Season 7, you will not be able to buy the same gear until you level up the Omega Reputation. But you don't have to wait for that. You can spend it right now on Holodeck.
If you choose to wait and not spend it, then we will convert it in our best attempt to be fair and equitable to give you similar purchasing power in the new system, but only after you have obtained the proper rank.
We've calculated that if you are one of the people running Elite STFs trying to get that last piece of gear you want for a set, you are statistically more likely get the gear sooner by doing the new Reputation system (60-90 days) than you are of getting it as a random drop in that same amount of time.
Our goal is to make running STFs more meaningful by giving your captain a set progression with clear progress towards goals and rewards instead of a random assortment of rare drops.
Any items converted this way will go into a storage device which cannot be retrieved until the character reaches Tier 5 in the Task Force Omega Reputation System.
If you gave people the conversion cost on day one, the rest of the system will be perfectly fine. Until this part of the plan is removed, I will remain 100% against the Reputation system.
so every time i get free time lets say 8 hours i grind i cannot get a mk XII that i do now ?
thats is just horrible.
still need to wait 60 days!
Unlikely on the waiting 60 days. The projects will have some absolute minimum time to do them all in sequence, early on you will likely be gated by the time it takes for the mission to happen (currently they first missions are something like 40 hour things were you allocate resources and then wait...). I suspect later you will be gated by how quickly you can get the resources to put in, so if you 'grind' a lot you'll be able to do them all as soon as they're available, rather than someone casual who will need time to get the required resources.
Now, it wouldn't be so bad if DL was ACTUALLY the time based currency Cryptic said it would be but it couldn't be further from it and as such, it is a problem.
Yeah, not time based in reality, unfortunately. Since there is a refinement cap, Cryptic should be able to not care at all HOW people earn the dilithium.
In fact, if every bit of content awarded dilithium based on average completion time with maybe a bonus of excellence like the double dilithium in the fleet actions, this would really segregate the good content from the bad and what people like to play...
i have a feeling mission content would be very high on the charts...
Ok we will be able to see the amount we will get when the change hits holodeck, but will you release the price requirements or just keep them secret? And say to everyone; well we kept our promise and showed you what you get in the conversion, but you will not know the prices of the items and have to work for 2 months to get to T5 only to find out you have to grind away for another month just to get your gear.
We will make sure that you can see the price structure as well as your conversion so that you can decide how best to proceed - either spend now on Holodeck in the old system, or wait for the new.
One of our primary goals is to take a confusing and messy system, simplify it, add better rewards, and make it clearer how to progress. We believe this new system does that.
We are also acknowledging that this is another big currency conversion and so unlike the previous Dilithium conversion, we are attempting to provide more information earlier so that players are more informed about what is happening and can have some options before the change hits.
Until the final numbers are implemented, I don't have this specific data point. We do plan on implementing this on Tribble soon so that you can log in and see the exact conversion your character received.
Well, at least the last part is true. (I'm assuming. Tribble server hampster's health willing.) I'm not a hundred percent on the first. I got the picture back, you see. It's kind of tiny, and hard to read, but it looks like it's selling mk XI weapons for ca. 8,000-odd dilithium a piece on that Klingon Omega Force reputation store project screen thing. So, even apart from any and all grinding we have to do to even be eligable to buy these items, we'd now be paying the dilithium equivalent of 8 Rare Salvage for what used to cost 2 Rare Salvage.
Now that may be a preliminary number, and I wish I could believe it, but an effective 300% pricehike is not a margin I imagine you're going to just fine-tune away, or fail to notice for that matter, without trying really, really hard.
The reason we are posting all of this information now is so that players can make a choice if they want to cash out now or save it for the new system.
In essence the old way of STFs are going away in early November when we remove those stores and item drops and start dropping Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors.
It is fair warning that since those stores are going away, you have the opportunity to cash it all out for Dilithium or Gear now. Once the conversion code is in place, you can even log into Tribble and see how many Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors and Dilithiium you'll get if you don't so that you are well informed before you make that decision.
But yes, there is a new system coming. It uses Omega Marks to level up a Reputation system (so does Romulan Marks). When you level up that system, you earn new Captain powers and abilities. These new rewards are intended for all max level Captains as an alternate form of skill progression much like specialization in other games.
In addition, at different tiers, the gear that was previously sold in STF stores can be unlocked and obtained with the new Omega Marks.
It is true that if you don't spend your existing currencies before Season 7, you will not be able to buy the same gear until you level up the Omega Reputation. But you don't have to wait for that. You can spend it right now on Holodeck.
If you choose to wait and not spend it, then we will convert it in our best attempt to be fair and equitable to give you similar purchasing power in the new system, but only after you have obtained the proper rank.
We've calculated that if you are one of the people running Elite STFs trying to get that last piece of gear you want for a set, you are statistically more likely get the gear sooner by doing the new Reputation system (60-90 days) than you are of getting it as a random drop in that same amount of time.
Our goal is to make running STFs more meaningful by giving your captain a set progression with clear progress towards goals and rewards instead of a random assortment of rare drops.
you still dont get it do you ? im fe dup to be honest could be here all night but when your sat there pretty much saying FU to all the players then i guess you wont take on board any feedback and this will get forced down our throats ?
Have fun losing a lot of players and seeing a reduced bottom line to your studios income, but hey i guess it will be made up for by keys in champs online HAH i made a funny
We will make sure that you can see the price structure as well as your conversion so that you can decide how best to proceed - either spend now on Holodeck in the old system, or wait for the new.
One of our primary goals is to take a confusing and messy system, simplify it, add better rewards, and make it clearer how to progress. We believe this new system does that.
We are also acknowledging that this is another big currency conversion and so unlike the previous Dilithium conversion, we are attempting to provide more information earlier so that players are more informed about what is happening and can have some options before the change hits.
Ok thanks because I do not want to spend 2 months on tribble grinding to T5 just to look at store prices for the gear.
Yeah, not time based in reality, unfortunately. Since there is a refinement cap, Cryptic should be able to not care at all HOW people earn the dilithium.
In fact, if every bit of content awarded dilithium based on average completion time with maybe a bonus of excellence like the double dilithium in the fleet actions, this would really segregate the good content from the bad and what people like to play...
i have a feeling mission content would be very high on the charts...
While one of the designers did the math and gave me the 60% reduction, this is similar to the logic used.
We looked at how many runs a player would need to have a statistical chance of getting the drop, then reduced the total number of runs needed to max out and get it in the new system.
In addition, for those who have already done a lot of STF runs, we're converting those currencies to the new ones so that once you hit the tier when you can purchase the sets, you'll have an even further reduction in cost based on the conversion rate of your previous items.
So in essence it is similar to a significant improvement in the drop rate of the item, but as part of the new Reputation System. The reason why we we didn't just change the drop rate is because it was still random and still hooked up to specific STFs. Now you can do any Borg content and get items needed to get your gear and don't have some people getting "lucky" and others "unlucky". Plus it is now structurally similar to how other Reputations work in the game such as the Romulan reputation and others that are coming down the road.
You clinging on to the whole 60 % rehearsed part just forgetting that in old stf's you always got additional dil rewards including even top weapons, even if you didn't get the set piece you always got additional rewards that are now gone - did you factor...
That is now replaced with paying for each set, did you factor that into your math post rationalization ?
But more than that you are trying to present this as you are doing anyone a favour, how many negative replies does it take to get through to you
You clinging on to the whole 60 % rehearsed part just forgetting that in old sto's you always got additional dil rewards including even top weapons
That is now replaced with paying for each set
But more than that you are trying to present this as you are doing anyone a favour, how many negative replies does it take to get through to you
negative replies in sto ? surely not ? ddstahl knows best ! am i rite ? its not as if he or is team would be totally out of touch with the game ? its not as if they actually play STO now is it ? :rolleyes:
STFs and Fleet Actions will both reward Dilithium as of Season 7.
For Fleet Actions, in addition to the gear drops there is a chance to earn:
Gold: Purple + 2x Dilithium amount
Silver: Purple + 1x Dilithium amount
Bronze: Blue + 1x Dilithium amount
All others: Green + 1x Dilithium amount
So no longer should you receive a "battery" as a Fleet Action reward - it should be at the very least a Green + 1x Dilithium amount (which I think is 480 but don't hold me to that).
Okay that sounds awesome to me
That show how well you listened to my rants ROFL the "battery" In all that sounds really awesome and even better that its going to be season 7
This is probally the season that has me most excited to see go to holodeck... It's probally wishful thinking but is there a way we will be able to see that omega torpedo launcher before it goes live on tribble... Also wishful thinking was hoping I could figure out a way to use it with a b'rel to make a viable torpedo boat again... all the setups I had at the begining of season 5 for using it are no longer working
You clinging on to the whole 60 % rehearsed part just forgetting that in old sto's you always got additional dil rewards including even top weapons
That is now replaced with paying for each set
But more than that you are trying to present this as you are doing anyone a favour, how many negative replies does it take to get through to you
You don't HAVE to pay for dilithium, do you?
You can earn it FOR FREE in-game.
Thank of it like that, and you'll be a lot happier... or at least, you'll be better informed that you don't have to spend real cash in this game.
in the blog they state the reason to switch to a reputation system is because a "few" people were complaining about not getting any porto tech after doing "100s" of stfs..
so in order to fix this, they switched to a reputation based system that will take a "FEW MONTHS" to get to level 5 so you can purchase MK XII gear..
i dont know who these few people were that they listened to.. but in my time of playing STO in a "few months" i get about 30 proto tech pieces..
enough for SEVERAL FULL SUITS... enough to where now whenever i get a proto piece it goes straight to the dilithium pile..
i dont see how this is fixing anything.. people are still going to have to do 100s of stfs..
i think this whole thing is set to curb dilithium.. no longer now will we get to play stfs and get 1000s of dilihtium per run.. its just going to be the 1100 you get for finishing..
right now i get 1100 for finishing, 2000 for a proto piece.. 1000 or so for tech..
i can make 5k per run if i get lucky..
this is what season 7 is gonna stop..
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- All existing gear unlocks you've obtained will remain in tact on your character
- If there are any existing items that are changing, those changes will be available for testing on Tribble, but for the most part, existing gear you've obtained should remain as is. Check Tribble during the next few weeks to see changes for yourself.
- The goal of the conversion is to retain "purchasing power" as close to what it was previously. We looked at the amount of items needed to obtain gear sets and set out to ensure that if you had enough items to get a specific gear piece or gear set, the conversion would be do its best to retain that purchasing power in the new system. Keep in mind that the way you obtain MACO/HONOR/OMEGA sets is going to be different because it will no longer be in a store, and will instead be via projects. So just having a conversion rate would not necessarily help you decide whether to cash out yet or not. The way you obtain dilithium and gear is changing in this system and you'll be able to see most of those changes on Tribble.
- The conversion will be different for everyone which is why we aren't posting a chart. When you get your crate, it will tell your character specifically how much Omega Marks, Borg Neural Processors, and Dilithium your items were converted to. If you are worried that the exchange may not be to your liking, then you'll have to make the call whether to spend or not. For the most part we are posting this blog to give you enough time to make that call for yourself.
- Due to the fact that some players have enough items being converted to max out the new system, we chose to withhold the conversion crate until the character hits tier 5 in Omega for a few reasons. We wanted player to have the choice at each tier how to spend their resources. We wanted players to be able to make choices about which captain power they want at each tier. We wanted to retain player's purchasing power by holding back the converted items until they can be spent on the Gear Sets. This prevents players from spending the resources they'd saved up for Omega Gear Sets on something else without realizing it.
- The time involved to rank up the Omega Fleet Rep will require a few months of projects, but the resources required should be easily obtainable within limits of standard game play. It also allows us to introduce the Reputation system without an entire subset of the game population skipping it via auto-completion - which isn't fun or in the nature of the design. This is about rebooting how the STFs should have worked in the first place, while giving players the purchasing power to be in similar footing when they finish it.
- There is a subset of players who will have one or two pieces that now have two choices. A) they have until early November to try to get the remaining pieces. wait until after Season 7 releases, and then level up the Omega Fleet and have a much clearer and easier path to getting the gear they are missing. Once again, we do not want some players "Skipping" the new Reputation system by getting a free pass because of the STF's they've run. Players will get a conversion crate, but we want all players to make choices at each tier about which powers they select.
- yes you will be able to earn Omega marks from other non-stf Borg missions such as the ones on Defera, Red Alerts, and perhaps even some of the Borg episodes and DOFF missions, so STFs will not be the only way to increase Omega rep.
So to make it so that we don't have to do the same content hundreds of times to get the reward, you're going to make us do the same content hundreds of times to get rewards we've already unlocked. And this makes sense to you?
I understand that you didn't want us to just skip over the reputation system, but what you seem to be forgetting is that the Romulan reputation system is still there. We can still get all the joy, nuance and strategy of the new system without starting from scratch in something we've done literally hundreds of times. In the article you mention that people who want to skip over the reputation can keep what they have, and that's great. But what if some of us want to skip the Omega reputation but still finish off the sets that we're 2/3 complete on? We're screwed. We have until early November to try and finish sets the old fashioned way, but there is not guarantee that the piece we need will drop, and some of us have been trying for much longer than the time left to us.
I thought that reputation system sounded awesome, and I was looking forward to being able to focus on the Romulans, since I was sure that my Omega Rep was well established. I mean I've done 200 STFs for them. Why do I have the same reputation with them as someone who has never even done a normal STF for them. It makes no sense. It makes me not care about the system at all. It makes me want to get off the treadmill. It makes me think that maybe games with actual endings are the way to go.
So far, from what I've seen and understand, I like it. I would much rather work towards a goal than play RNG lottery for drops.
I would like to know, however, if eventually the Reputation system will allow for improving our characters in a more horizontal fashion. Gear and such is great, but more numbers isn't more interesting. Being able to do more, however, would be great.
As someone who is happily enjoying the DOFF system, I'd be interested in non-combat ways of expanding my character. Reputation with Ferengi (trade), Cardassians (espionage), Bajorans (development), etc., would be interesting for me. That said, I recognize what I'd like is probably more a niche interest.
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When Cryptic "cleaned up the multitude of marks and replaced it with Dilithium, I was completely screwed over... I had enough marks to outfit 10 ships with top-of-the-line gear, + hundreds of other marks that could buy other things, and after the conversion to Dilithium I didn't have enough Dilithium to outfit even one ship!
I think this time I'll just lean back and let them have their way with me. I know it's gonna happen and I can't stop it anyway.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Correction: It's what PWE wants and Cryptic has to do it or they lose the people paying for their MMOs.
Seriously, stop blaming Cryptic. It's more than likely PWE's idea 50% of the time.
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In Cold Blood
This is the other thing that bugs me a lot and again shows me how out of touch you and your team are.
What your saying is in an stf you will have a similar system to say battlefield ? im asusming youve played those games mr stahl ?
At the moment you can get multiple puprle salvage across groups of players where as now your segregating it into gold/silver/bronze etc ?
so how will those positions be measured ? will there be a similar system to pvp scoreboards ? will it be a mesaure of damage or healing ?
the questions raised are endless. Please do elaborate on how this is going to work ? please do enlighten us ? im sure it will reinforce just how ludicrous and silly the coming changes are ?
Im not gonna sit here all night and ask quesitons. At the end of the day itys up to you as an EP to encourage me and persuade me to play STO. If you dont want me playing your game its fine i can take my monies to other MMOS. Because right now your sat there in your glass protected dome with your finngers in your ears "going la la la la" ignoring the people who have supported and played this game and chucked a lot of money at you/cryptic and now PWE nad this is the thanks ?
Oh and smart move leaving zynga. I see they laid off a lot of people in the news today.
dstahl says Effort = reward <-- but clearly that is not the case. if i grind 20 hours i do not get a mk XII instead i need to wait 60 days and play 3 hours every day to get it
that is just horrible
the 8.000 limit on refinement hinders my gameplay aloot.
effort = reward is greatly wrong
I assume it might take about the same amount of ressources and time to complete. That already means 6 1hr sessions per week on ONE Toon.
And that is of course not taking into account the Fleet system, with its new embassy.
Oh well, it piles up, no? :rolleyes:
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
No... it's really not...
:mad:
Trials of Blood and Fire
Moving On Parts 1-3 - Part 4
In Cold Blood
....This? wow... Ok. This resolves some of the grind issues...and a few others...I still am NOT a fan of not getting progress rewarded for things i've already done. I dont feel that's right at all. And i have to ask WHY is this being talked about NOW why wasnt it talked about sooner?
@pointedears
I believe this is a RESULT oriented system Based off the conditions of the event. A Gold level (perfect run) adds this much
A silver (solid run) adds that much
A bronze (A TRIBBLE run) adds that much
Any others (Dramafest from hell but still sucessful) adds that much
Seems there are only a few of us who are interested in the fate of the Borg Duty officers you can buy with Edc's - Mr Stahl has not made a comment.
Ok we will be able to see the amount we will get when the change hits holodeck, but will you release the price requirements or just keep them secret? And say to everyone; well we kept our promise and showed you what you get in the conversion, but you will not know the prices of the items and have to work for 2 months to get to T5 only to find out you have to grind away for another month just to get your gear.
The reason we are posting all of this information now is so that players can make a choice if they want to cash out now or save it for the new system.
In essence the old way of STFs are going away in early November when we remove those stores and item drops and start dropping Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors.
It is fair warning that since those stores are going away, you have the opportunity to cash it all out for Dilithium or Gear now. Once the conversion code is in place, you can even log into Tribble and see how many Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors and Dilithiium you'll get if you don't so that you are well informed before you make that decision.
But yes, there is a new system coming. It uses Omega Marks to level up a Reputation system (so does Romulan Marks). When you level up that system, you earn new Captain powers and abilities. These new rewards are intended for all max level Captains as an alternate form of skill progression much like specialization in other games.
In addition, at different tiers, the gear that was previously sold in STF stores can be unlocked and obtained with the new Omega Marks.
It is true that if you don't spend your existing currencies before Season 7, you will not be able to buy the same gear until you level up the Omega Reputation. But you don't have to wait for that. You can spend it right now on Holodeck.
If you choose to wait and not spend it, then we will convert it in our best attempt to be fair and equitable to give you similar purchasing power in the new system, but only after you have obtained the proper rank.
We've calculated that if you are one of the people running Elite STFs trying to get that last piece of gear you want for a set, you are statistically more likely get the gear sooner by doing the new Reputation system (60-90 days) than you are of getting it as a random drop in that same amount of time.
Our goal is to make running STFs more meaningful by giving your captain a set progression with clear progress towards goals and rewards instead of a random assortment of rare drops.
Unlikely on the waiting 60 days. The projects will have some absolute minimum time to do them all in sequence, early on you will likely be gated by the time it takes for the mission to happen (currently they first missions are something like 40 hour things were you allocate resources and then wait...). I suspect later you will be gated by how quickly you can get the resources to put in, so if you 'grind' a lot you'll be able to do them all as soon as they're available, rather than someone casual who will need time to get the required resources.
You are a life timer... so you'd have to forget for like 7 days straight... it gets auto-refined for you...
The amount of marks dropped for completing an STF is not random
NEXT!
Yeah, not time based in reality, unfortunately. Since there is a refinement cap, Cryptic should be able to not care at all HOW people earn the dilithium.
In fact, if every bit of content awarded dilithium based on average completion time with maybe a bonus of excellence like the double dilithium in the fleet actions, this would really segregate the good content from the bad and what people like to play...
i have a feeling mission content would be very high on the charts...
We will make sure that you can see the price structure as well as your conversion so that you can decide how best to proceed - either spend now on Holodeck in the old system, or wait for the new.
One of our primary goals is to take a confusing and messy system, simplify it, add better rewards, and make it clearer how to progress. We believe this new system does that.
We are also acknowledging that this is another big currency conversion and so unlike the previous Dilithium conversion, we are attempting to provide more information earlier so that players are more informed about what is happening and can have some options before the change hits.
Almost, you have to grind the ore in the first place.
I suspect 3 1 hr session per week is only true if you open your wallet and get your DL on the echange so...
Well, at least the last part is true. (I'm assuming. Tribble server hampster's health willing.) I'm not a hundred percent on the first. I got the picture back, you see. It's kind of tiny, and hard to read, but it looks like it's selling mk XI weapons for ca. 8,000-odd dilithium a piece on that Klingon Omega Force reputation store project screen thing. So, even apart from any and all grinding we have to do to even be eligable to buy these items, we'd now be paying the dilithium equivalent of 8 Rare Salvage for what used to cost 2 Rare Salvage.
Now that may be a preliminary number, and I wish I could believe it, but an effective 300% pricehike is not a margin I imagine you're going to just fine-tune away, or fail to notice for that matter, without trying really, really hard.
you still dont get it do you ?
Have fun losing a lot of players and seeing a reduced bottom line to your studios income, but hey i guess it will be made up for by keys in champs online HAH i made a funny
Ok thanks because I do not want to spend 2 months on tribble grinding to T5 just to look at store prices for the gear.
As you know from your experiences with fleetbases, that number will double, triple, and quadruple as you progress.
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You clinging on to the whole 60 % rehearsed part just forgetting that in old stf's you always got additional dil rewards including even top weapons, even if you didn't get the set piece you always got additional rewards that are now gone - did you factor...
That is now replaced with paying for each set, did you factor that into your math post rationalization ?
But more than that you are trying to present this as you are doing anyone a favour, how many negative replies does it take to get through to you
/edit top ship* weapons ofc
negative replies in sto ? surely not ? ddstahl knows best ! am i rite ? its not as if he or is team would be totally out of touch with the game ? its not as if they actually play STO now is it ? :rolleyes:
Okay that sounds awesome to me
That show how well you listened to my rants ROFL the "battery"
This is probally the season that has me most excited to see go to holodeck... It's probally wishful thinking but is there a way we will be able to see that omega torpedo launcher before it goes live on tribble... Also wishful thinking was hoping I could figure out a way to use it with a b'rel to make a viable torpedo boat again... all the setups I had at the begining of season 5 for using it are no longer working
You don't HAVE to pay for dilithium, do you?
You can earn it FOR FREE in-game.
Thank of it like that, and you'll be a lot happier... or at least, you'll be better informed that you don't have to spend real cash in this game.
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so in order to fix this, they switched to a reputation based system that will take a "FEW MONTHS" to get to level 5 so you can purchase MK XII gear..
i dont know who these few people were that they listened to.. but in my time of playing STO in a "few months" i get about 30 proto tech pieces..
enough for SEVERAL FULL SUITS... enough to where now whenever i get a proto piece it goes straight to the dilithium pile..
i dont see how this is fixing anything.. people are still going to have to do 100s of stfs..
i think this whole thing is set to curb dilithium.. no longer now will we get to play stfs and get 1000s of dilihtium per run.. its just going to be the 1100 you get for finishing..
right now i get 1100 for finishing, 2000 for a proto piece.. 1000 or so for tech..
i can make 5k per run if i get lucky..
this is what season 7 is gonna stop..
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So to make it so that we don't have to do the same content hundreds of times to get the reward, you're going to make us do the same content hundreds of times to get rewards we've already unlocked. And this makes sense to you?
I understand that you didn't want us to just skip over the reputation system, but what you seem to be forgetting is that the Romulan reputation system is still there. We can still get all the joy, nuance and strategy of the new system without starting from scratch in something we've done literally hundreds of times. In the article you mention that people who want to skip over the reputation can keep what they have, and that's great. But what if some of us want to skip the Omega reputation but still finish off the sets that we're 2/3 complete on? We're screwed. We have until early November to try and finish sets the old fashioned way, but there is not guarantee that the piece we need will drop, and some of us have been trying for much longer than the time left to us.
I thought that reputation system sounded awesome, and I was looking forward to being able to focus on the Romulans, since I was sure that my Omega Rep was well established. I mean I've done 200 STFs for them. Why do I have the same reputation with them as someone who has never even done a normal STF for them. It makes no sense. It makes me not care about the system at all. It makes me want to get off the treadmill. It makes me think that maybe games with actual endings are the way to go.
I would like to know, however, if eventually the Reputation system will allow for improving our characters in a more horizontal fashion. Gear and such is great, but more numbers isn't more interesting. Being able to do more, however, would be great.
As someone who is happily enjoying the DOFF system, I'd be interested in non-combat ways of expanding my character. Reputation with Ferengi (trade), Cardassians (espionage), Bajorans (development), etc., would be interesting for me. That said, I recognize what I'd like is probably more a niche interest.
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