So in the end you're telling the players to "support Cryptic" , but on the other hand you're pro-LTS (which takes away a lot of money from Cryptic on the long run , because subs make Cryptic more money on the long run) .
So which is it ?
If the subs were the money maker, then we would not have F2P, and its pretty much known, lock boxes and C store is how money comes in most.
I thought about LTS last week, when talk of the 1000 rewards were hot. i then looked up all the rewards for each achievement . i decided not to get a LTS because of the length it would take to get some of the perks.
today i find out i dont have to wait.
i will now get a LTS.
thats a win. but i understand how annoyed some people will be.
i dont think i have earnt the right to the special veteran title. im not a veteran in my mind.
so i will not be using the title.
So you would have given them more money in the long run ?
And how do those maths work out as a Win/Win ?
There were folks who subbed close to 1000 days and they gave Cryptic $800+ , just by their sub .
Now Cryptic is selling the same "game time / experience" for $200-300 .
Sure it might be worth it for the player , but is it worth it to Cryptic ?
Not to mention , how many subbers are thinking : "well now I don't have to pay any more !" .
Do you know how wrong that is (unless you treat STO like a second job) ?
So in the end you're telling the players to "support Cryptic" , but on the other hand you're pro-LTS (which takes away a lot of money from Cryptic on the long run , because subs make Cryptic more money on the long run) .
So which is it ?
Its simple....LTS and rewards are dumb.......but wait.......now i can get access to all the rewards without waiting i will spend money getting access to the very thing i deemed unimportant to others.
So you would have given them more money in the long run ?
And how do those maths work out as a Win/Win ?
There were folks who subbed close to 1000 days and they gave Cryptic $800+ , just by their sub .
Now Cryptic is selling the same "game time / experience" for $200-300 .
Sure it might be worth it for the player , but is it worth it to Cryptic ?
Not to mention , how many subbers are thinking : "well now I don't have to pay any more !" .
Do you know how wrong that is (unless you treat STO like a second job) ?
So in the end you're telling the players to "support Cryptic" , but on the other hand you're pro-LTS (which takes away a lot of money from Cryptic on the long run , because subs make Cryptic more money on the long run) .
So which is it ?
I can't really guess what are Cryptic financial costs/gains with that whole deal.
However, from the player's side, the deal and the math is very simple. If you plan to keep a Gold subscription going for at least 12 more months then BUY a Lifetime Sub because you LOSE nothing and not only will win over time but also get immediate access to lot of freebies you would not get for free with a Gold sub.
I thought about LTS last week, when talk of the 1000 rewards were hot. i then looked up all the rewards for each achievement . i decided not to get a LTS because of the length it would take to get some of the perks.
today i find out i dont have to wait.
i will now get a LTS.
thats a win. but i understand how annoyed some people will be.
i dont think i have earnt the right to the special veteran title. im not a veteran in my mind.
so i will not be using the title.
They are not a Fail concept , they are a concept that worked very well in Subsibcription MMO's , by essentially turning LTS subscribers into walking billboards of coolness -- or to be more precise , walking advertisments for LTS sales .
from which most new and even old MMOs are slowly retiring from.
There is such a thing as "retiring gracefully" .
This is not it .
In STO we has less then 24 hours to celebrate the LTS 1000 day vet award , before we were told that it was also going on sale .
That's akin to going to your last day at work only to find the new guy with his feet on your desk and your stuff in a box in a corner with the sign "for sale" on top of your box .
Does that sound graceful to you ? Or even remotely respectful ?
1 ) As MMOs gets older, the path to the highest Reward gets ridiculously far away and often potential subscribers will even wonder if the game still be there for them to achieve it.
Not in this MMO .
In this MMO EVERYTHING is for sale .
Tell me , will you feel bad when Starbases will be up for sale ? (or quick ways to get to certain Tiers)
Will that not somehow invalidate the effort you put into yours ?
Will it not cheapen your efforts (?) and in some cases , if you've turned Zen to Dill to support your Starbase , will that not cheapen that as well .
2 ) Players tend to expect always better and better perk/reward as they achieve higher milestones.
Not all players .
For me the height of the perks were the "fireworks" in space , and the basic (and flawed) Borg look that LTS's got from the get go .
Many players expected the 1000 day Vet award to be a new skin material or a reskin of an old ship or an old ship w/new stats .
We had to be assured that we were in fact getting a new ship (because we didn't believe that we were) .
Recently we were even assured that the new ship will not be going to the C-Store .
I guess we didn't ask the right question there , did we ?
The problem is that most often, there is only a handful of really dedicated players left that will actually grab the highest reward.
I'm not sure what to say to that .
All I know is that from my POV , they could have stopped with the Vet award at 1000 days .
It would have been nice if I didn't get the feeling like they needed to cash in on my award Right Away .
3-6 months from now . ok . That would have been a cool time to announce the restructure/elimination of the Vet awards .
Right now ? Not so much .
This is more akin to bringing out the first lockboxes at last x-mas . Sure it was fun for some , but it ruined the holiday experience for many others .
Something has been taken away from me that was not
part of the deal when I bought my LTS back those days
- the fun of waiting and patience.
This is not about new lifers getting the veteran stuff -
they pay, they may enjoy!
Just a few days ago I reached 900 days and I was sooo
happy to now wear my jupiter uniform with gold shoulder
parts. I looked into it every day to see when it's gonna
happen..a feeling like xmas in my childhood - that gave
me something to do. Now this part of my gameplay died.
My suggestions are:
- set ALL accolade points for ALL players to max
- hand out all end level gear to all players without one successfull STF
- merge KDF and FED into one big faction so you don't have to care about PvP anymore
- remove all cstore items and integrate them into the lockboxes, also respec and such
Maybe then you devs have the game you dream about!
Something has been taken away from me that was not
part of the deal when I bought my LTS back those days
- the fun of waiting and patience.
This is not about new lifers getting the veteran stuff -
they pay, they may enjoy!
Just a few days ago I reached 900 days and I was sooo
happy to now wear my jupiter uniform with gold shoulder
parts. I looked into it every day to see when it's gonna
happen..a feeling like xmas in my childhood - that gave
me something to do. Now this part of my gameplay died.
My suggestions are:
- set ALL accolade points for ALL players to max
- hand out all end level gear to all players without one successfull STF
- merge KDF and FED into one big faction so you don't have to care about PvP anymore
- remove all cstore items and integrate them into the lockboxes, also respec and such
Maybe then you devs have the game you dream about!
Hyperbole much?
Look, i understand your point of view. I really do.
On the other hand i also understand that money talks. And i for one never had any problem, prejudice or bias against people that have money and that are willing to spend it to cut corners.
Anyone can earn money and anyone is free to spend it on things they want and feel are important to them. People spend awful lot of time to achieve things in a way they won't have to open their purse. And there are these people who prefer instead to earn real money and then throw it into a game for insta-gratification. To me, it is all the same. These are both valid options opened to anyone.
Now, there is the "time" issue i can understand about Lifers that signed years early and are now feeling not acknowledged by the Dev team. I could get behind giving these old lifers a special title so that they can still "show" their "epeen" to others.
But other than that, i perfectly understand why Cryptic is doing what they do. It all makes lot of sense to me.
I have the same feeling.
I understand that Cryptic/Perfect World really wants us to assimilate the community into nameless mind slaves with equal 'rights'.
I'd say take soldiers Congressional Medal of Honor, and distribute it to them all. Give them the option to recieve the Purple heart to. Just make sure that they shoot their foot first.
Usually (imho) an mmo used to be the continuous grind/kill x beast, to finally get some kind of cool bragging-right inducing item of some sort.
What are we supposed to grind for now, then? Uhmm, Dil? To waste on the starbase?!?!!!
I am really lacking an incentive to continue this game. Have Cryptic/Perfect World just cutthroathed the whole game? -Releasing the Veteran Awards (and titles!!??!), and to top it off. Plainly distributing the complete OP-ship#1, the Chimera?! Let me guess, space will be littered with a prototype(!) ship, that happens to be flown by 'everybody'. Great move Cryptic. Honestly, I wouldn't have cried if I had to wait a 1000 days to actually get it. It would have given me a reason to farm dilithium to the otherwise less useful starbase. -Now? Pffh. We'll see.
only wanted to state that there were and are fun things in the game that you cannot read as perks.
It depends on the playstyle. I know a player who has never left ESD, only standing at the tailor and redressing, redressing, redressing...what if cryptic would decide to take dil instead of EC for that service?
I don't care about ships or inventory space and all this stuff, also I want cryptic to earn money - I will still pay my part with purchased zen nearly every month. (added to the 1500,- Euro I already spent)
So it's only about maxing our fleetbase and my accolades now. Let's see for how long!
Let's understand what this really is, when it all boils down to it, it's a way for them to get more money. Giving these perks to lifers now, the gold people are in fact doing the maths, and it makes sense to purchase the lifetime, and save money in the long run. It doesn't take long for the lifetime sub to pay for itself, and then you get to play this game, forever, without spending more $$$$$ per month.
That is what ultimately saddens me, the whole model for STO revolves around new and unique ways they can come up to make people spend money. It's all about dollar signs with STO, and how they can get more money out of us. This game has changed a lot from when it was launched, I've seen how each little thing they do as time progresses is all geared toward the money grab. It's shameful. My STO that I use to know, is gone.
I have the same feeling.
I understand that Cryptic/Perfect World really wants us to assimilate the community into nameless mind slaves with equal 'rights'.
I'd say take soldiers Congressional Medal of Honor, and distribute it to them all. Give them the option to recieve the Purple heart to. Just make sure that they shoot their foot first.
Usually (imho) an mmo used to be the continuous grind/kill x beast, to finally get some kind of cool bragging-right inducing item of some sort.
What are we supposed to grind for now, then? Uhmm, Dil? To waste on the starbase?!?!!!
I am really lacking an incentive to continue this game. Have Cryptic/Perfect World just cutthroathed the whole game? -Releasing the Veteran Awards (and titles!!??!), and to top it off. Plainly distributing the complete OP-ship#1, the Chimera?! Let me guess, space will be littered with a prototype(!) ship, that happens to be flown by 'everybody'. Great move Cryptic. Honestly, I wouldn't have cried if I had to wait a 1000 days to actually get it. It would have given me a reason to farm dilithium to the otherwise less useful starbase. -Now? Pffh. We'll see.
Before today, what did you ever had to grind to get your 1000 days reward? Nothing.
All you had to do is buy your Lifetime a year ago and then never log again into the game and just wait until you hit 1000 days. So what's the deal here? What exactly are you losing here?
The only real achievments are the ones you can work for IN the game. Days subbed never meant much to begin with, it was just giving away gated rewards over time for doing nothing.
Now you can just keep playing and doing exactly what you were doing 3 days ago. Nothing has changed.
Let's understand what this really is, when it all boils down to it, it's a way for them to get more money. Giving these perks to lifers now, the gold people are in fact doing the maths, and it makes sense to purchase the lifetime, and save money in the long run. It doesn't take long for the lifetime sub to pay for itself, and then you get to play this game, forever, without spending more $$$$$ per month.
That is what ultimately saddens me, the whole model for STO revolves around new and unique ways they can come up to make people spend money. It's all about dollar signs with STO, and how they can get more money out of us. This game has changed a lot from when it was launched, I've seen how each little thing they do as time progresses is all geared toward the money grab. It's shameful. My STO that I use to know, is gone.
Now you can buy your way to "Veteran"
Sickening
The old STO with the bugs, and you use to beam down as your starship in ESD. The STO where it took forever to level up a KDF toon? the old STO where we had to beam out of an STF because no one could beat Rebecca, and had to try to find another team in zone. oh the STO where if we wanted to play we had no choice but sub, even though nothing was being put in the game, and ESD had 1 instance, and KDF was a ghost town. Unlike the STO now where you can play the whole game for FREE without spending a dime.
They made a game Free to play, but if you want other cool stuff you got to pay for it. They are not holding players at gun point saying you must buy this or we will kick you out. They make a ship or something, and say some corny phrases that you would see on a TV commercial and wave it in front of someone and saying buy buy buy buy, but still not at gun point.
Before today, what did you ever had to grind to get your 1000 days reward? Nothing.
All you had to do is buy your Lifetime a year ago and then never log again into the game and just wait until you hit 1000 days. So what's the deal here? What exactly are you losing here?
The only real achievments are the ones you can work for IN the game. Days subbed never meant much to begin with, it was just giving away gated rewards over time for doing nothing.
Now you can just keep playing and doing exactly what you were doing 3 days ago. Nothing has changed.
So what would you care if us peons were able to drop some cash and instantly obtain the complete MACO/KHG sets? Or a T5 starbase?
They're just pixels and it won't effect you or your game play any.
"What exactly are you losing here?"
You could just keep playing and doing exactly what you were doing 3 days ago. Nothing would change.
So what would you care if us peons were able to drop some cash and instantly obtain the complete MACO/KHG sets? Or a T5 starbase?
They're just pixels and it won't effect you or your game play any.
"What exactly are you losing here?"
You could just keep playing and doing exactly what you were doing 3 days ago. Nothing would change.
???
I wouldn't care but I think a better design (from a perspective of making things easier for Cryptic to datamine for development) would be to create a dilithium-only auction house for all bound items in the game.
I wouldn't care but I think a better design (from a perspective of making things easier for Cryptic to datamine for development) would be to create a dilithium-only auction house for all bound items in the game.
That's not a bad idea...someone would buy Zen and hit the Dil exchange or just grind out the Dil in order to buy what they want.
Would provide another source of income but would taper off after the initial frenzy of buying.
I'm not sure it's really about new LT subscribers suddenly getting the toys that were only handed out at specific intervals previously.
I think it's the mechanism. It was set up as kind of a reward system for veterans. The merits of it's effectiveness are debatable; however, for many it did feel like a reward for being a loyal player over X amount of time.
Now, with it's sudden removal, it is as if your trophy was taken back for whatever reason. The rewarded feeling is cheapened and it's understandable that would upset some people. It would feel like their loyalty meant nothing after all.
Sure, you could open an account, buy a LTS, and never log in for 1000 and still earn the prizes. I'm not saying this explanation covers everyone, but I do think it does cover a fraction of the player base and it is understandable why they feel upset.
I'm not sure it's really about new LT subscribers suddenly getting the toys that were only handed out at specific intervals previously.
I think it's the mechanism. It was set up as kind of a reward system for veterans. The merits of it's effectiveness are debatable; however, for many it did feel like a reward for being a loyal player over X amount of time.
Now, with it's sudden removal, it is as if your trophy was taken back for whatever reason. The rewarded feeling is cheapened and it's understandable that would upset some people. It would feel like their loyalty meant nothing after all.
Sure, you could open an account, buy a LTS, and never log in for 1000 and still earn the prizes. I'm not saying this explanation covers everyone, but I do think it does cover a fraction of the player base and it is understandable why they feel upset.
I'm not sure it's really about new LT subscribers suddenly getting the toys that were only handed out at specific intervals previously.
I think it's the mechanism. It was set up as kind of a reward system for veterans. The merits of it's effectiveness are debatable; however, for many it did feel like a reward for being a loyal player over X amount of time.
Now, with it's sudden removal, it is as if your trophy was taken back for whatever reason. The rewarded feeling is cheapened and it's understandable that would upset some people. It would feel like their loyalty meant nothing after all.
Sure, you could open an account, buy a LTS, and never log in for 1000 and still earn the prizes. I'm not saying this explanation covers everyone, but I do think it does cover a fraction of the player base and it is understandable why they feel upset.
Reasons I disagree: 1. No one lost anything
2. people who get LTS will get these rewards anyway. Time is only artificially making these items scarcer they they are logically.
3. the people who buy an LTS and never log in for 1000 days would get the rewards in the old system. It's players who have yet to acheive the 1000 days of subscribed time that are benfitting from this (some more than others)
4. Loyalty... WTF? Cryptic are rewarding your loyalty for buying an LTS or being subscribed for 1000 days by giving you these items. By buying an LTS these items are given to you no matter how much time you are in game as these rewards are given based on subscribed time. And if you have an LTS you are forever subscribed so in effect everyone bought these items when they bought an LTS.
This thread has slightly derailed. There are many valid opinions here; respect to most of you for your input.
The rewards are out there for all LTS and they won't go back.
What I would like to see are titles that reflect the actual amount of time subscribed to the game as well as "/played" time (actual in-game time) titles. As a fleet leader, this information can be rather useful; letting me know which people may need extra training, whom is likely to take on leadership roles, etc. This is clearly not the only, nor even a good reason for these titles; but if we're being honest, many of us do want them to reflect what they were designed to reflect. Why shouldn't there be a little prestige given to those who have loyally supported the game? The rewards program was designed with this in mind.
I can't disagree strongly enough with titles (forum and in-game) being granted due to LTS as opposed to time (and I'm a fairly new LTS myself)!
They're the only real status-only parts of the rewards, and they really should have been reserved. It's basically like a post-count, but for time subscribed.
-recently bought LTS, got a crapload of veteran stuff in one go, is thoroughly enjoying all the tears-
:cool:
Seriously though, I coughed up easily 170's Euros in total, I think that should cover what I got, say what you will, but this new feature is going to sell quite a few more LTS's, which no doubt, is the point.
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If the subs were the money maker, then we would not have F2P, and its pretty much known, lock boxes and C store is how money comes in most.
today i find out i dont have to wait.
i will now get a LTS.
thats a win. but i understand how annoyed some people will be.
i dont think i have earnt the right to the special veteran title. im not a veteran in my mind.
so i will not be using the title.
Its simple....LTS and rewards are dumb.......but wait.......now i can get access to all the rewards without waiting i will spend money getting access to the very thing i deemed unimportant to others.
See easy. lol
I can't really guess what are Cryptic financial costs/gains with that whole deal.
However, from the player's side, the deal and the math is very simple. If you plan to keep a Gold subscription going for at least 12 more months then BUY a Lifetime Sub because you LOSE nothing and not only will win over time but also get immediate access to lot of freebies you would not get for free with a Gold sub.
If you're looking for the ship... might want to wait on that...
They are not a Fail concept , they are a concept that worked very well in Subsibcription MMO's , by essentially turning LTS subscribers into walking billboards of coolness -- or to be more precise , walking advertisments for LTS sales .
There is such a thing as "retiring gracefully" .
This is not it .
In STO we has less then 24 hours to celebrate the LTS 1000 day vet award , before we were told that it was also going on sale .
That's akin to going to your last day at work only to find the new guy with his feet on your desk and your stuff in a box in a corner with the sign "for sale" on top of your box .
Does that sound graceful to you ? Or even remotely respectful ?
Not in this MMO .
In this MMO EVERYTHING is for sale .
Tell me , will you feel bad when Starbases will be up for sale ? (or quick ways to get to certain Tiers)
Will that not somehow invalidate the effort you put into yours ?
Will it not cheapen your efforts (?) and in some cases , if you've turned Zen to Dill to support your Starbase , will that not cheapen that as well .
Not all players .
For me the height of the perks were the "fireworks" in space , and the basic (and flawed) Borg look that LTS's got from the get go .
Many players expected the 1000 day Vet award to be a new skin material or a reskin of an old ship or an old ship w/new stats .
We had to be assured that we were in fact getting a new ship (because we didn't believe that we were) .
Recently we were even assured that the new ship will not be going to the C-Store .
I guess we didn't ask the right question there , did we ?
I'm not sure what to say to that .
All I know is that from my POV , they could have stopped with the Vet award at 1000 days .
It would have been nice if I didn't get the feeling like they needed to cash in on my award Right Away .
3-6 months from now . ok . That would have been a cool time to announce the restructure/elimination of the Vet awards .
Right now ? Not so much .
This is more akin to bringing out the first lockboxes at last x-mas . Sure it was fun for some , but it ruined the holiday experience for many others .
part of the deal when I bought my LTS back those days
- the fun of waiting and patience.
This is not about new lifers getting the veteran stuff -
they pay, they may enjoy!
Just a few days ago I reached 900 days and I was sooo
happy to now wear my jupiter uniform with gold shoulder
parts. I looked into it every day to see when it's gonna
happen..a feeling like xmas in my childhood - that gave
me something to do. Now this part of my gameplay died.
My suggestions are:
- set ALL accolade points for ALL players to max
- hand out all end level gear to all players without one successfull STF
- merge KDF and FED into one big faction so you don't have to care about PvP anymore
- remove all cstore items and integrate them into the lockboxes, also respec and such
Maybe then you devs have the game you dream about!
Hyperbole much?
Look, i understand your point of view. I really do.
On the other hand i also understand that money talks. And i for one never had any problem, prejudice or bias against people that have money and that are willing to spend it to cut corners.
Anyone can earn money and anyone is free to spend it on things they want and feel are important to them. People spend awful lot of time to achieve things in a way they won't have to open their purse. And there are these people who prefer instead to earn real money and then throw it into a game for insta-gratification. To me, it is all the same. These are both valid options opened to anyone.
Now, there is the "time" issue i can understand about Lifers that signed years early and are now feeling not acknowledged by the Dev team. I could get behind giving these old lifers a special title so that they can still "show" their "epeen" to others.
But other than that, i perfectly understand why Cryptic is doing what they do. It all makes lot of sense to me.
I have the same feeling.
I understand that Cryptic/Perfect World really wants us to assimilate the community into nameless mind slaves with equal 'rights'.
I'd say take soldiers Congressional Medal of Honor, and distribute it to them all. Give them the option to recieve the Purple heart to. Just make sure that they shoot their foot first.
Usually (imho) an mmo used to be the continuous grind/kill x beast, to finally get some kind of cool bragging-right inducing item of some sort.
What are we supposed to grind for now, then? Uhmm, Dil? To waste on the starbase?!?!!!
I am really lacking an incentive to continue this game. Have Cryptic/Perfect World just cutthroathed the whole game? -Releasing the Veteran Awards (and titles!!??!), and to top it off. Plainly distributing the complete OP-ship#1, the Chimera?! Let me guess, space will be littered with a prototype(!) ship, that happens to be flown by 'everybody'. Great move Cryptic. Honestly, I wouldn't have cried if I had to wait a 1000 days to actually get it. It would have given me a reason to farm dilithium to the otherwise less useful starbase. -Now? Pffh. We'll see.
Well, sometimes))..
only wanted to state that there were and are fun things in the game that you cannot read as perks.
It depends on the playstyle. I know a player who has never left ESD, only standing at the tailor and redressing, redressing, redressing...what if cryptic would decide to take dil instead of EC for that service?
I don't care about ships or inventory space and all this stuff, also I want cryptic to earn money - I will still pay my part with purchased zen nearly every month. (added to the 1500,- Euro I already spent)
So it's only about maxing our fleetbase and my accolades now. Let's see for how long!
That is what ultimately saddens me, the whole model for STO revolves around new and unique ways they can come up to make people spend money. It's all about dollar signs with STO, and how they can get more money out of us. This game has changed a lot from when it was launched, I've seen how each little thing they do as time progresses is all geared toward the money grab. It's shameful. My STO that I use to know, is gone.
Now you can buy your way to "Veteran"
Sickening
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Before today, what did you ever had to grind to get your 1000 days reward? Nothing.
All you had to do is buy your Lifetime a year ago and then never log again into the game and just wait until you hit 1000 days. So what's the deal here? What exactly are you losing here?
The only real achievments are the ones you can work for IN the game. Days subbed never meant much to begin with, it was just giving away gated rewards over time for doing nothing.
Now you can just keep playing and doing exactly what you were doing 3 days ago. Nothing has changed.
The old STO with the bugs, and you use to beam down as your starship in ESD. The STO where it took forever to level up a KDF toon? the old STO where we had to beam out of an STF because no one could beat Rebecca, and had to try to find another team in zone. oh the STO where if we wanted to play we had no choice but sub, even though nothing was being put in the game, and ESD had 1 instance, and KDF was a ghost town. Unlike the STO now where you can play the whole game for FREE without spending a dime.
They made a game Free to play, but if you want other cool stuff you got to pay for it. They are not holding players at gun point saying you must buy this or we will kick you out. They make a ship or something, and say some corny phrases that you would see on a TV commercial and wave it in front of someone and saying buy buy buy buy, but still not at gun point.
So what would you care if us peons were able to drop some cash and instantly obtain the complete MACO/KHG sets? Or a T5 starbase?
They're just pixels and it won't effect you or your game play any.
"What exactly are you losing here?"
You could just keep playing and doing exactly what you were doing 3 days ago. Nothing would change.
???
I wouldn't care but I think a better design (from a perspective of making things easier for Cryptic to datamine for development) would be to create a dilithium-only auction house for all bound items in the game.
That's not a bad idea...someone would buy Zen and hit the Dil exchange or just grind out the Dil in order to buy what they want.
Would provide another source of income but would taper off after the initial frenzy of buying.
I think it's the mechanism. It was set up as kind of a reward system for veterans. The merits of it's effectiveness are debatable; however, for many it did feel like a reward for being a loyal player over X amount of time.
Now, with it's sudden removal, it is as if your trophy was taken back for whatever reason. The rewarded feeling is cheapened and it's understandable that would upset some people. It would feel like their loyalty meant nothing after all.
Sure, you could open an account, buy a LTS, and never log in for 1000 and still earn the prizes. I'm not saying this explanation covers everyone, but I do think it does cover a fraction of the player base and it is understandable why they feel upset.
Thank you, precisely
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Reasons I disagree: 1. No one lost anything
2. people who get LTS will get these rewards anyway. Time is only artificially making these items scarcer they they are logically.
3. the people who buy an LTS and never log in for 1000 days would get the rewards in the old system. It's players who have yet to acheive the 1000 days of subscribed time that are benfitting from this (some more than others)
4. Loyalty... WTF? Cryptic are rewarding your loyalty for buying an LTS or being subscribed for 1000 days by giving you these items. By buying an LTS these items are given to you no matter how much time you are in game as these rewards are given based on subscribed time. And if you have an LTS you are forever subscribed so in effect everyone bought these items when they bought an LTS.
The rewards are out there for all LTS and they won't go back.
What I would like to see are titles that reflect the actual amount of time subscribed to the game as well as "/played" time (actual in-game time) titles. As a fleet leader, this information can be rather useful; letting me know which people may need extra training, whom is likely to take on leadership roles, etc. This is clearly not the only, nor even a good reason for these titles; but if we're being honest, many of us do want them to reflect what they were designed to reflect. Why shouldn't there be a little prestige given to those who have loyally supported the game? The rewards program was designed with this in mind.
They're the only real status-only parts of the rewards, and they really should have been reserved. It's basically like a post-count, but for time subscribed.
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Seriously though, I coughed up easily 170's Euros in total, I think that should cover what I got, say what you will, but this new feature is going to sell quite a few more LTS's, which no doubt, is the point.