If the veteran awards involved work that was beyond just sitting around waiting for the timer whether you are in game or not, then older lifetimers might have a good argument.
But personally I can see why it would bother people that waited this long, although logically I'm not sure making an issue out of it would be warranted.
I'm surprised they kept the sale going while they announced this. I would more think they'd end the sale and then say "Oh by the way... go LTS and get all the perks right now!"
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
I am excited about getting the rewards from the veteran program. Come January 2013, I break even and play gold for free. Cool Stuff. Thanks.
However, I do agree with the concern of original post. The new forum title, and the in game titles give the holder a bit of distinction, and its a justifiable vanity. I view the in game titles like the accolades they currently. I have to run 300 STFs to get the Fed Medal of Honor Accolade, why not require 1000 days sub for Guardian. I can already put "career officer" if I want to show I'm a lifetime member.
Because it's a VETERAN rewards program, that's why! We're the ones that have loyally supported the game from the beginning. Why should someone who hasn't been in the game for 1000 days get the 1000 day veteran title? This is really a kick in the junk to all the STO loyalists. :mad:
If people really truly loyally support the game then they should be pleased at anything that will add to the success of the game and to its longevity. If this incentive encourages more people the buy life time subscriptions then GREAT!!! I have 2 LTS around the 740 day range. One could say, "why am i still waiting for things i paid for 2 yeas ago?" It is a valid point of view also.
Rather than be concerned about trivialities like jumping monkey pets, titles and most of the junk that comes with the veteran rewards programs, why dont they give gold plays a discount to go LTS or better yet stop charging the monthly gold players as soon as they have contributed the cost of LTS. That to me would be something of value and a deserving reward for people that have paid for gold.
As for how long have we played bragging rights, there likely should be something done for such people that care about those things. Maybe a different colour for forums and/or bigger fonts, medals the can be pinned to the uniform and can be read in player bios when other players check you out, unique titles "Beta Boys or Babes", bumper stickers for your ships, "Ive been playing since the big beta bang and all i got was this stinking shuttle" etc... Im just gently teasing because i think the original players deserve respect and credit for playing amidst the beta bugs.
Perhaps the powers that be should look at these things when they come up with rewards.
1. How long you have played
2. How long/much you have paid
3. How actively have you played
Are players getting it for free, can silver players grind their hearts content and buy it off the store. No
So yes it's fair that someone is spending 300 bucks and getting more for it than before.
Yeah we knew they were going to have a ship for 1000 day vets, but we did not know what it was going t be. It could of been a reskin of the Luna class, or a reskin Odyssey class.
Who cares what ship or how much. The point is people waited in line for a year and here comes someone waltzing past us that didn't have to wait a single second and to get all the rewards we had to wait 100 days between to acquire.
So you're saying that's fair? You saying if you waited in line for that long, it wouldn't bother you a single iota? I find that hard to believe.
You guys are so funny ... well not buts lets start to debunk things.
1) TIME!
Until early this year you Subscribers were paying for ONE thing, THE ABILITY TO PLAY THE GAME!!!
This IS what the subscription model happen to be and now for ...
2) Veterans Rewards.
The PURPOSE of Veteran Rewards is to keep subscribers paying every month and no I mean PAYING, not PLAYING because the system does not track days online and only subscription time.
With F2P it seems you people got COLLECTIVE AMNESIA and forgot that WAS the purpose of Veterans Rewards and now it was a "perk" of being Gold, never mind there was no Gold members prior to the F2P model and so it was never a "perk".
3)Litimetime.
Now Lifetime Membership is kind of a problem, prior to F2P it was "give us a lot of crash and never pay us again" to play the game and they got a few perks along with it, with F2P model that ceased to exist so it was paying to play a Liberated Borg and getting the Veteran Rewards perk.
So it was pointless, everyone that had the cash and the desire became a Lifetime Member long before the F2P model, the ones that did not AND were subscribers were pretty much being asked to sink $299 (Currently $199) so they could play a Liberated Borg.
Now the new Free to Play members looked at it and did the same as the ones that had cash and the desire back in the subscription days, the ones that had the cash and the desire became Lifetime Members and the rest did not ... but reason why they did not was because they would have to be ... oh, almost 3 YEARS before they could get the Veteran Rewards.
In conclusion.
This is not about time spend in the game, this is about trying to sell Lifetime Membership that is increasingly harder because the pre-F2P players already brought it and the ones that did not are highly unlikely to buy it and the F2P era new players either brought Lifetime Membership and the ones that did not are even more unlikely to buy it that "Gold Members".
Oh I am not going to get it, I do say at least its a sales pitch that makes me consider it as before it was something I ruled out ... I do wish they also reward players by play time and also by money spend, to be fair ... unlike the current segregation system of Silver/Gold.
I just read this, it is a great post and agree very much with what you say. i started playing about two years ago. i upgraded to LTS a week or two into the game and would have got it from the get go had i known you could. I then bought a second account and went LTS right away. Why? Because i knew that it would be cheaper in the long term. The longer i played the less it cost me each month; at least under the old system. I dont regret FTP as my investment in the game would be pointless if the game was shut down. The same goes for the beta players, what would be the point of boasting about playing a game early that no longer exists??? Any new blood and cash injected in STO protects all the investments we have made with money and time into our game...
Anyway, people read this fellows post 2 or 3 times, he is bang on!!!
As a 670-odd day veteran, I can sympathize with those upset. There is definitely something to be said for having the elite symbol of a veteran ship... I'm happy to be getting that sweet ship, but at the same time, I'm upset that I'm just going to be one of hundreds that get it all at once, rather than earning it myself ~a year from now.
I need a new skin for my Ferengi Na'Far shuttle so people know i paid the full 800 lobi price!!!! not the pauper 300 price it sells for now. Yes i need people to know how big my lobes are!!!
Who cares what ship or how much. The point is people waited in line for a year and here comes someone waltzing past us that didn't have to wait a single second and to get all the rewards we had to wait 100 days between to acquire.
So you're saying that's fair? You saying if you waited in line for that long, it wouldn't bother you a single iota? I find that hard to believe.
Nope, because I'm not waiting in line for anything. What line is there a line outside Quinn's office for rewards. Are vets sitting in ESD and just waiting for stuff every 100 days. I barely think about the vet rewards till maybe a week, then I get it and move on.
Because it's a VETERAN rewards program, that's why! We're the ones that have loyally supported the game from the beginning. Why should someone who hasn't been in the game for 1000 days get the 1000 day veteran title? This is really a kick in the junk to all the STO loyalists. :mad:
dude, honestly, its a few title, and a ship, skin varient. most of the lifers do nothing but complain about the lack of rewards and generally refer to them as meaningless, now most of those same people (not saying you as i havnt seen you complain) are complaining that their meaningless rewards are being given to people who would be garunteed to recieve them anyways. (i could see the argument if they were giving it to anyone who subbed for a month, but anyone who gets a lifetime is basically garunteed them anyways)..
Nope, because I'm not waiting in line for anything. What line is there a line outside Quinn's office for rewards. Are vets sitting in ESD and just waiting for stuff every 100 days. I barely think about the vet rewards till maybe a week, then I get it and move on.
Well there are many who have been waiting for this ship, and now the new guys get to pass them by and cry out, "suckers!"
As a 990 day LTS'er, I'd just like to say that I don't give a flip when some newb gets his vet rewards. His/her money keeps the lights on and the servers running. My STO LTS money was spent a long time ago, so glad they have found a way to make LTS subs more appealing to new players.
If you are one of those STO LTS'ers that feel they have recieved a kick to the jewels, calm down, take a deep breath, and realize that you are not a special unique snowflake. There is no coolness attached to having a 1000-day pile o' pixels that someone else didn't have to wait 1000 days to get.
Its a game. Don't take it, or yourselves, so seriously.
That loosened my stools!!! Thanks for the laugh!!!
Well there are many who have been waiting for this ship, and now the new guys get to pass them by and cry out, "suckers!"
Ah the new guys, what about the silver players who have been here a year, and did not want a LTS and now they are more incline to get one. what about gold members who were here before F2p started, left because they did not want to pay came back as silver and kept playing, and now might want to go LTS.
They also invested time in the game,but this is really not about who invested time, because if it was then sliver players who been here for a year should get vet rewards.
Ah the new guys, what about the silver players who have been here a year, and did not want a LTS and now they are more incline to get one. what about gold members who were here before F2p started, left because they did not want to pay came back as silver and kept playing, and now might want to go LTS.
They also invested time in the game,but this is really not about who invested time, because if it was then sliver players who been here for a year should get vet rewards.
Those who subscribed to STO long before F2P shouldn't get dissed like what Cryptic did, period. If Silver Players invest in LTS, fine, but they shouldn't get the full benefits that took 3 years for others to achieve.
You know, someone should make a political cartoon of this.
Here is the crux, we use to get rewarded for time played in the game, or time subbed, now, we don't. This has been taken away from long-term players. Veterans of this game have once again, been devalued. I've supported this game for 3 years, and over time Veterans of this game keep getting more and more devalued. I know it's all about money, this is a way to get people to spend money on Life time Subs now that the game is f2p. That doesn't excuse the fact that Veteran Rewards no longer means Veteran Rewards. It is now an instant reward that all you have to do is spend a few hundred dollars to get. Veterans just got a punch in the face.
I don't think Cryptic appreciates its long-term veteran players anymore, you know, us, the people that spent tons of money on this game over the years and who have supported it through the hard times.
I was one of the most vocal people before this game when F2P, in support of F2P, saying nothing but positive things about how F2P will be good for this game. My mind is quickly changing on that topic.
I need a new skin for my Ferengi Na'Far shuttle so people know i paid the full 800 lobi price!!!! not the pauper 300 price it sells for now. Yes i need people to know how big my lobes are!!!
Those who subscribed to STO long before F2P shouldn't get dissed like what Cryptic did, period. If Silver Players invest in LTS, fine, but they shouldn't get the full benefits that took 3 years for others to achieve.
You know, someone should make a political cartoon of this.
How did we get dissed please tell me, did cryptic take my reward away, and gave it to the silver players.
Whoa, I just read the front page blog, I can't say I like the idea that new lifetime subs will get all the current veteran rewards. It demeans the nature of veteran rewards. Veteran Rewards were something special, something that long time players could really benefit from, but now everyone can get them with new lifetime subs? I don't like that, it makes the veteran rewards less unique and meaningful. It dumbs it down.
Pretty soon everyone's gonna have all the same rewards at Gold/Lifetime/Long-Time Players, and there will be no differences between long-time players and new players. Perhaps that is their goal, to meld the two? But as a long-time player, who is past 900 days, been playing since open beta, and who bought the lifetime in year 1 of this game, I feel like you are taking uniqueness away from me. Making my 3 years of playing, less meaningful. We should be rewarded for our time in this game, and just giving it away to new lifetime subs takes that away from those of us that have been in this game for several years.
My bad, i thought your accomplishments IN the game were more meaningful than rewards awarded simply for having subscribed to a game earlyer than other people.
For all we know, some people bought Lifetime sub at launch, played maybe 2-3 months and only came back recently to see what is new. Now tell me, how is that an accomplishment deserving any special reward?
But i agree that the concept of Veteran reward should disapear and instead be renamed Perks for Longtime Investment
Don't you see, they have demolished the meaning and definition of "Veteran Rewards" now. Veteran Rewards, by definition meant a reward you received every 100 days of being subbed.
Now that you get these rewards instantly, without waiting 100 days for each new one, they have to re-name it. "Veteran" Reward no longer applies, by definition. See how they've completely ruined what it meant?
It is not that people don't understand what you are saying, were are smart, we all like star trek right??? yes we all have that in common. For many people it just does not rate high enough on the things to do list each day to really care one way or another. However, since im a "big tent" game player, i hope they will do something that will assuage the players that think this is an issue of some importance.
Here is the crux, we use to get rewarded for time played in the game, or time subbed, now, we don't. This has been taken away from long-term players. Veterans of this game have once again, been devalued. I've supported this game for 3 years, and over time Veterans of this game keep getting more and more devalued. I know it's all about money, this is a way to get people to spend money on Life time Subs now that the game is f2p. That doesn't excuse the fact that Veteran Rewards no longer means Veteran Rewards. It is now an instant reward that all you have to do is spend a few hundred dollars to get. Veterans just got a punch in the face.
I don't think Cryptic appreciates its long-term veteran players anymore, you know, us, the people that spent tons of money on this game over the years and who have supported it through the hard times.
I was one of the most vocal people before this game when F2P, in support of F2P, saying nothing but positive things about how F2P will be good for this game. My mind is quickly changing on that topic.
My face feels just fine
Once a person got a LTS back in the day, they did not need to spend money anymore, and now that it's free to play you still don't have to spend money as a lifer.
Now have a jelly baby and a good night sleep and it will get better as the days go by
I guess Star Trek Online is now all about new free to play players, their focus is to please and appease new players. Old players are left in the dust..... This game no loner appreciates the Veteran player. Cryptic is only concerned about getting more new people to play, and figuring out new ways how they can give Cryptic real money. Money Grabs, Money Sinks, Gambling devices to waste away your money, that is what this game is all about now. This is one more way Cryptic has figured out how they can get new people to give them hundreds of dollars for a LFT Sub.
Sorry I sound harsh, but we must face what the realities of this game are now, compared to what they use to be.
There is no longer any luv from Cryptic for folks who have helped keep the servers running since the game went live...
I spent the first year of the game, subbing at $15 bucks a month (+the $40 to buy the game), then bought a LTS just before the 1st anniversary at $239.00.
But...
I also have spent more than $2800 dollars over and above all that, on assorted (Maxi-priced) items offered in the C/Zen store just by being around since then...
(Edit: I forgot about all the different versions of the game I've bought over the last two years... some of them were purchased while on sale, but my grand total monetary investment in this game, is actually well over $3500.00)
My entertainment time and my hard earned money are valuable to me... I spent it here instead of other places...
Granted it was my choice to do so, but it would be nice if They at the very least could keep the Vet Titles based on actual time subscribed to the game and days gone by...
..not just give it to those folks who have ponied-up the money with no investment of time.
I'm peeved that my time spent with Them from the beginning, supporting the game, has become meaningless...
Even though I'm a bit excited that I don't have to wait till December to get the new ship.
I find my feelings to be very diametrically opposed at the moment.
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There is no longer any luv from Cryptic for folks who have helped keep the servers running since the game went live...
I spent the first year subbing at $15 bucks a month (+the $40 to buy the game), then bought an LTS just before the 1st anniversary at $239.00.
But...
I also have spent more than $2800 dollars over and above all that, on assorted (Maxi-priced)items offered in the C/Zen store...
My entertainment time and my hard earned money are valuable to me...
Granted it was my choice to do so, but it would be nice if They at the very least could keep the Vet Titles based on actual time subscribed to the game and days gone by...
..not just give it to those out to folks who have ponied-up the money with no investment of time. .
I guess Star Trek Online is now all about new free to play players, their focus is to please and appease new players. Old players are left in the dust..... This game no loner appreciates the Veteran player. Cryptic is only concerned about getting more new people to play, and figuring out new ways how they can give Cryptic real money. Money Grabs, Money Sinks, Gambling devices to waste away your money, that is what this game is all about now. This is one more way Cryptic has figured out how they can get new people to give them hundreds of dollars for a LFT Sub.
Sorry I sound harsh, but we must face what the realities of this game are now, compared to what they use to be.
To be realistic, old players with Lifetime subs who are never buying Zen are not helping one notch to keep the game alive.
The game needs money, it always will. Even after selling these new Lifetiem offers, Cryptic will still need to put more gambling boxes and stuff in the store and hope to sell it to players, especially to players who do not need to pay anymore to play.
All the BOO HOO. ya know Alot of us Paid for the game. We bought the Various Deluxe Collectors edition Etc etc only to have the Goodies sold on the C-store or become vet rewards. Meh so now ya buy a life Sub ya get it all. Heck i may finaly buy one now. I refused after the Per order Billing debacle. But im over the BOO HOO buthurt.
And that is really what it is all about to you, eh? You want to be able to fly around in a 1000-day ship and say "Suck it noobs! I had a spare 300 bucks back in 2010 and you didn't! Aint I cool?!"
I would say it's more about showing the dedication you had when the fate of the game was very much in question (and this around the time Hellgate and that cops and robbers MMO were crashing and burning at their launches). I'd say it's more about showing that you were willing to take that risk and invest early on. That you're still here after the Year of Hell where we all had about 11 months with just about zero new content that wasn't a CStore item, while the game was still sub-based, so that Cryptic could make the switch over to F2P. That you're still here after F2P when your subscription got ridiculously devalued by their hair-brained idea to make ending a monthly sub not remove the things you'd unlocked for subbing. That you're still here after P2W. Here after dropping the ball on PvP for three years. Dropping the ball on the KDF for three years. Still here after... everything.
I'd say a lot of people would like it as a badge of honor that they've but up with all of Cryptic's bull **** for a quadruple digit number of days....
... don't we deserve our battle scars? To wear our bruises with pride?
To be realistic, old players with Lifetime subs who are never buying Zen are not helping one notch to keep the game alive.
Pfft! Who never buys Zen? The stipend is a pittance and is only worth a damn if you buy maybe one item a year. You make more Zen grinding Dilithium and exchanging it than you do from the pitiful little stipend Cryptic gives out...
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But personally I can see why it would bother people that waited this long, although logically I'm not sure making an issue out of it would be warranted.
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However, I do agree with the concern of original post. The new forum title, and the in game titles give the holder a bit of distinction, and its a justifiable vanity. I view the in game titles like the accolades they currently. I have to run 300 STFs to get the Fed Medal of Honor Accolade, why not require 1000 days sub for Guardian. I can already put "career officer" if I want to show I'm a lifetime member.
I guess we'll all find out October 11.
If people really truly loyally support the game then they should be pleased at anything that will add to the success of the game and to its longevity. If this incentive encourages more people the buy life time subscriptions then GREAT!!! I have 2 LTS around the 740 day range. One could say, "why am i still waiting for things i paid for 2 yeas ago?" It is a valid point of view also.
Rather than be concerned about trivialities like jumping monkey pets, titles and most of the junk that comes with the veteran rewards programs, why dont they give gold plays a discount to go LTS or better yet stop charging the monthly gold players as soon as they have contributed the cost of LTS. That to me would be something of value and a deserving reward for people that have paid for gold.
As for how long have we played bragging rights, there likely should be something done for such people that care about those things. Maybe a different colour for forums and/or bigger fonts, medals the can be pinned to the uniform and can be read in player bios when other players check you out, unique titles "Beta Boys or Babes", bumper stickers for your ships, "Ive been playing since the big beta bang and all i got was this stinking shuttle" etc... Im just gently teasing because i think the original players deserve respect and credit for playing amidst the beta bugs.
Perhaps the powers that be should look at these things when they come up with rewards.
1. How long you have played
2. How long/much you have paid
3. How actively have you played
Who cares what ship or how much. The point is people waited in line for a year and here comes someone waltzing past us that didn't have to wait a single second and to get all the rewards we had to wait 100 days between to acquire.
So you're saying that's fair? You saying if you waited in line for that long, it wouldn't bother you a single iota? I find that hard to believe.
I just read this, it is a great post and agree very much with what you say. i started playing about two years ago. i upgraded to LTS a week or two into the game and would have got it from the get go had i known you could. I then bought a second account and went LTS right away. Why? Because i knew that it would be cheaper in the long term. The longer i played the less it cost me each month; at least under the old system. I dont regret FTP as my investment in the game would be pointless if the game was shut down. The same goes for the beta players, what would be the point of boasting about playing a game early that no longer exists??? Any new blood and cash injected in STO protects all the investments we have made with money and time into our game...
Anyway, people read this fellows post 2 or 3 times, he is bang on!!!
I need a new skin for my Ferengi Na'Far shuttle so people know i paid the full 800 lobi price!!!! not the pauper 300 price it sells for now. Yes i need people to know how big my lobes are!!!
Nope, because I'm not waiting in line for anything. What line is there a line outside Quinn's office for rewards. Are vets sitting in ESD and just waiting for stuff every 100 days. I barely think about the vet rewards till maybe a week, then I get it and move on.
dude, honestly, its a few title, and a ship, skin varient. most of the lifers do nothing but complain about the lack of rewards and generally refer to them as meaningless, now most of those same people (not saying you as i havnt seen you complain) are complaining that their meaningless rewards are being given to people who would be garunteed to recieve them anyways. (i could see the argument if they were giving it to anyone who subbed for a month, but anyone who gets a lifetime is basically garunteed them anyways)..
How about titles based on how much money you've spent in the game?
No one likes that idea? :P
Who cares about the time titles anyway. They don't apply based on the time spent playing the game.
Someone could have purchased an LTS early in the game and then shelved it.
They come back and suddenly they're Dauntless or whatever.
Well there are many who have been waiting for this ship, and now the new guys get to pass them by and cry out, "suckers!"
That loosened my stools!!! Thanks for the laugh!!!
Ah the new guys, what about the silver players who have been here a year, and did not want a LTS and now they are more incline to get one. what about gold members who were here before F2p started, left because they did not want to pay came back as silver and kept playing, and now might want to go LTS.
They also invested time in the game,but this is really not about who invested time, because if it was then sliver players who been here for a year should get vet rewards.
Those who subscribed to STO long before F2P shouldn't get dissed like what Cryptic did, period. If Silver Players invest in LTS, fine, but they shouldn't get the full benefits that took 3 years for others to achieve.
You know, someone should make a political cartoon of this.
I don't think Cryptic appreciates its long-term veteran players anymore, you know, us, the people that spent tons of money on this game over the years and who have supported it through the hard times.
I was one of the most vocal people before this game when F2P, in support of F2P, saying nothing but positive things about how F2P will be good for this game. My mind is quickly changing on that topic.
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You could say that's the 'long and short' of it.
How did we get dissed please tell me, did cryptic take my reward away, and gave it to the silver players.
My bad, i thought your accomplishments IN the game were more meaningful than rewards awarded simply for having subscribed to a game earlyer than other people.
For all we know, some people bought Lifetime sub at launch, played maybe 2-3 months and only came back recently to see what is new. Now tell me, how is that an accomplishment deserving any special reward?
But i agree that the concept of Veteran reward should disapear and instead be renamed Perks for Longtime Investment
It is not that people don't understand what you are saying, were are smart, we all like star trek right??? yes we all have that in common. For many people it just does not rate high enough on the things to do list each day to really care one way or another. However, since im a "big tent" game player, i hope they will do something that will assuage the players that think this is an issue of some importance.
My face feels just fine
Once a person got a LTS back in the day, they did not need to spend money anymore, and now that it's free to play you still don't have to spend money as a lifer.
Now have a jelly baby and a good night sleep and it will get better as the days go by
Feel free to read my posts again.
Sorry I sound harsh, but we must face what the realities of this game are now, compared to what they use to be.
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Man, it is amusing. Just by reading your signature i can see you are THAT type of guy who "needs" to feel special like a unique snowflake.
I hope tomorrow will not crash your party too hard when you'll realize you are just another wolf in the pack haha
( Only a humorous comment. No insult intended )
I spent the first year of the game, subbing at $15 bucks a month (+the $40 to buy the game), then bought a LTS just before the 1st anniversary at $239.00.
But...
I also have spent more than $2800 dollars over and above all that, on assorted (Maxi-priced) items offered in the C/Zen store just by being around since then...
(Edit: I forgot about all the different versions of the game I've bought over the last two years... some of them were purchased while on sale, but my grand total monetary investment in this game, is actually well over $3500.00)
My entertainment time and my hard earned money are valuable to me... I spent it here instead of other places...
Granted it was my choice to do so, but it would be nice if They at the very least could keep the Vet Titles based on actual time subscribed to the game and days gone by...
..not just give it to those folks who have ponied-up the money with no investment of time.
I'm peeved that my time spent with Them from the beginning, supporting the game, has become meaningless...
Even though I'm a bit excited that I don't have to wait till December to get the new ship.
I find my feelings to be very diametrically opposed at the moment.
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Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Thank you, agree
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To be realistic, old players with Lifetime subs who are never buying Zen are not helping one notch to keep the game alive.
The game needs money, it always will. Even after selling these new Lifetiem offers, Cryptic will still need to put more gambling boxes and stuff in the store and hope to sell it to players, especially to players who do not need to pay anymore to play.
It is a Great idea!!! Lol. New titles like Mr. Bling, Da'LobeMeister, RichyRich, and Perfect World Tycoon. etc..
Also, the more you spend the more "bling" that shows. Gold chains, rings, shiny gold tooth, etc...
I would say it's more about showing the dedication you had when the fate of the game was very much in question (and this around the time Hellgate and that cops and robbers MMO were crashing and burning at their launches). I'd say it's more about showing that you were willing to take that risk and invest early on. That you're still here after the Year of Hell where we all had about 11 months with just about zero new content that wasn't a CStore item, while the game was still sub-based, so that Cryptic could make the switch over to F2P. That you're still here after F2P when your subscription got ridiculously devalued by their hair-brained idea to make ending a monthly sub not remove the things you'd unlocked for subbing. That you're still here after P2W. Here after dropping the ball on PvP for three years. Dropping the ball on the KDF for three years. Still here after... everything.
I'd say a lot of people would like it as a badge of honor that they've but up with all of Cryptic's bull **** for a quadruple digit number of days....
... don't we deserve our battle scars? To wear our bruises with pride?
Pfft! Who never buys Zen? The stipend is a pittance and is only worth a damn if you buy maybe one item a year. You make more Zen grinding Dilithium and exchanging it than you do from the pitiful little stipend Cryptic gives out...