Then I probably only imagined blowing up escorts with that build.
you probly just got luckly with noobs dude...honestly.......im not trying to rip you apart. i reserve that for ingame trash talk mostly and people that dont care about even semi balance and use the lame p2w stuff when in all honestly i know they are better players then that. so in another words when i see semi ok players abuse lameness its ok for me to disrespect them in many ways.
now for the escourts that you have poped ( i see no reason to lie. i thought i was awesome when i was blowing up people too till i stoped my 1v1 bs and got into real matches against awesome players ) i am glad that you are getting into pvp and starting with 1v1 first. it will give you a feel for the game and how it plays out. it will get you to time your powers and how to counter. again its small steps. TRIBBLE it will even show you why using boarding party 3 is useless. 1v1 will show you what works what dont. but....humm... a big BUT........it will not gear you for team play.a good example was i loved bo3. its really good. killed alot of people with it solo. i got into pvp and found it much harder. TRIBBLE i got less people with it and only got luckly with it. reason is with all the cross healing like extends just made me lose dps in the end. then mav came along and told me how to use it. you need a game plan. use tbr so that person cant get to the healer and if the healer shoots over with evasive the tbr will push him away and just unload the bo. i mean even in pvp im getting wacked all the time on my scourt with bo 2 bo 3 and use a simple use of epts i just lol it off and yell noobs at my screen while trying not to laugh so i can focus on my screen. cause i remember a time i thought bo was awesome to shoot at random too. or to try to take a shield facing down.
but in reality you take the facing down but still have the epts resist with tss and well many people have 3 purple sheild doffs. thoes are now my crutch. i no longer need to hit evasive as much and zoom around the map holding out for a heal. they keep you in the fight alot longer. see your in this carrier and think this fat piece of junk has so much hp that your chance of getting killed is slim to none. but your very wrong. my defiant has 70% on d. your carrier has 60%. alot of people have 80% d and 85% with aegis.( or 90%?) this is alot. sure my 70% d can go toe to toe with awesome players that have the 80%, but ill have to work for it. your 60%.......what are you thinking with not going epts?
listen lets do a 1v1. ill even take my sheilds off for you and see if you can kill me. ill shoot at you and use heals. if you cant kill me but i can pop you with no sheilds on will you at least try epts? im betting on my 70% defense and skill of using an escourt and buffs to keep me alive. the way i see it working in my head is that with you not using epts its basically the same thing.
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
I know, in theory, that resistance bonus from EPTS and from the energy boost to shields should increase your survivability. But in practice, it doesn't.
:rolleyes:
Yeah, what does an entire subforum of high-level minmaxers in premades know about the game.
You may be astonished, but I have read that dogma before. I came from commanding an assault cruiser with 2xEPTS3. Only to find out that I had too few hull heals if I did anything resembling that on the Atrox.
Strange. That does not happen do me in 1v1 situations.
Oh, of course, people I fight are, by definition, not good at STO space combat, so what do I know. *shrug*
well explain to me the layout of the assault cruiser and maybe i can help you. i just fixed my oddy. epts 1 3 eptw 1 2 aux to sif 3 et 3 tss 2 he 1. see awesome help is listed on fourms if you actually come here to look for it. i had no clue i could even chain eptx like that till it was explained to me and i tested it out. my brain could not perceive it so i tested it known it was good advice and i just needed to listen to them and not me.(sounds odd dont it?)
now for your TRIBBLE carrier.......and i dont mean this against you, the carrier in general is just TRIBBLE. its a spam fest for no skilled players that are only skilled in spam. i use the carrier and i admit that. but i use stalker fighters to cut down the lameness and just get pwned faster because i dont load up on 1 mill tractor fest. your lame Atrox will NOT be a dedicated healer. sorry its not possible. so knowing this and you dont use epts what are you going to do if u had to face me in my escourt? and i told you ill come into the fight with no sheilds. because me not having sheilds is just about the same as you due to the fact you dont use epts. i would love to see you verse minimax in a 1v1 when he hits you with a vm and a psw. just say good bye at that point.
and yes you versed nubs in your 1v1 test. i would really love to try killing you with no sheilds, would love it. and i know i actually can. sad but true. reason due to my speed and your lack of attack. and i can out heal your damage while you cant out heal the damage i do to your ship. i do dps, what a tact was designed to do. you on the other hand just take up space. your not even a good meat sheild to soak up damage. just take your sheilds off...they do nothing for you. now i see why people just dont really act.......right?......towards you? if that makes any sense to you? its in your post. why post if your not even willing to give any ideas a try? i still cant get over capt acting like that towards you. your ideas are flawed. and if you keep this attitude of "im doing it the trek way" then grow up trek was a show this is a game. get out of your mother basement go out talk to girls bla bla bla. actually i remember paricard even saying epts or full power to sheilds? either or. so yeah sheilds are most important, once they go then u need to learn to hull tank or die.
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
its an indisputable fact that shield tanking, shield healing, shield resistance and a high shield power level account for AT LEAST 90% of your ability to tank incoming damage. if you don't have 2 copies of EPtS1, don't bother queing, you are a liability, you will die to every moderately buffed alpha strike and you will cause your team to lose.
the only possible way for you to think that running 2 EPtS3 isn't the single best way to insure your survival, is for you to be not smart enough to use TT, or distribute your shields. EPtS3 is this game's version of death proof easy mode. use this, balance your shields, and you will survive all but an entire team shooting at you.
you need few hull heals if you handle your shields correctly, just enough to counter the momentary breach and bleed damage. focusing mainly on tanking and hull healing is useless. hull resistance cant approach how high you can raise shield resistance, and the less numeric damage you take due to resistance, the less you have to heal. sky high shield resistance is reachable with ensign level skills, high hull resistance takes all your engineering console slots and 2 fully speced tier 4 and a tier 5 skill. opportunity costs make 1 of these paths invalid.
its an indisputable fact that i use dem and account for AT LEAST 90% of ship pops in this game. so you dont even need to come into a match with sheilds.
lmao there fixed!!!!!!!!!!
@sophlogimo ok we can do a fight. when are you ready for this 1v1?
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
ok so our 1v1 first round i die to fbp3. if your looking at whats going on you see im not even healing my ship. i got a stack of ap sweep on my hud and max setting is awesome for even 1 carrier spam. second round. fbp3 comes along ok fine all i did was just use aux to sif 2 and fight it. its that freaking weak. so i have pet spam behind me( lowered my setting for that second round...wtf gtx 460 cant handle max setting with pets using ap sweep?) during the match i hardly used space bar to activate epts. i even typed in opvp while im getting shot at.
so im just shooting at him wating for him to use rsp get done with fbp and wait for that sci team to hit. st pops hit all my buffs all he has now is to hope for borg proc. well he died.
he cant even see how epts would keep him alieve along with the rsp and st with a full aux for fbp 3. so what ever he claims his build is good im done.......next time im going in my defiant for a cloaked alpha
Logimo deals 233 (678) FeedbackPulse to you with Feedback Pulse II.
[Combat (Self)] Your Dual Heavy Disruptor Cannons deals 2559 (4482) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Logimo.
his highest hit my lowest hit
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
in defense of logimos build, it wasnt half bad. i lost 5-3 in a 1v1 with my brel. i did kill myself x2 with trico and ram die 2x, but thats not the point. Even with is "nontraditional" build he was able to at least survive my kinetic heavy alpha, which rsp did not aid much. FBP didnt help him either much becus i dont rely on energy wepaons.
The advanced stalker pets did well to dirupt my attacks and prevent me from gettign that perfect full buffed shot off on him when he was weak, all but 3 times. I killed him as easy as any cat carrier those 3 times.
He however didnt have anythign to lose from my using viral matrix on him, with no aux based healing. unique mtachup gg
Would you give a rough estimate on how much of the 13 minutes (the time it took you on the second run to defeat me once) you were in my rear torpedo arc with your escort?
again ill say it for like the 100th time. i stayed on your back. i did not even hit space bar. i had no sheild healing while attacking you because your dps was such TRIBBLE. your fbp2 and 3 sucked even harder then you did. the only help you really got was from borg procs that you relie on. my first attack on you made you go down to 54 hp. your rsp saved you with borg procs. the fbp...well again i only used aux to sif and fought past it. if i was in my defiant i would have just used an alpha and decloaked and gg.
mini again your vm will not affect sheilds. and good point about his aux. thats why even his fbp3 sucks. i doubt hes even boosting it via consoles and aux power.
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
not sure why.........tryed to prove your damage was utter TRIBBLE. i have blance sheilds and epts on space bar. yet i never had to hit it...........if my aux to sif was enought to fight your fbp 2 and 3 that should say something. i have to say 1 thing, your borg procs are the best thing on that ship to be honest. thats what saved you the most. not your et not ur st. rsp and borg procs. but what if u had epts 1 2 and rsp with borg procs? really the most annoying part was the borg gear. in the end u still died so it was not enough.
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
Fought 2 matches with a handicap per Logimo's request (No hangar slotted) Died once during it due to underestimating his FBP + My attack power.
FBP is a very selfish skill for a carrier, unless you are blitzing or fedbombing the enemy formation, it is pretty useless. Not all fights are 1 on 1, you should replace it with something more useful for your team such as a grav well, viral matrix, or scramble sensors.
As repeated above, run emergency power to shields, it will make the ship you "captain" far more powerful in pvp matches that aren't just 1 on 1.
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Fought 2 matches with a handicap per Logimo's request (No hangar slotted) Died once during it due to underestimating his FBP + My attack power.
FBP is a very selfish skill for a carrier, unless you are blitzing or fedbombing the enemy formation, it is pretty useless. Not all fights are 1 on 1, you should replace it with something more useful for your team such as a grav well, viral matrix, or scramble sensors.
As repeated above, run emergency power to shields, it will make the ship you "captain" far more powerful in pvp matches that aren't just 1 on 1.
you know that 1 death is going to make him think his build is still awesome..........but wtf how did you get all 5 rounds? he would not fight me more then 2. was i not nice enough?
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
Yes, I did. Because there is a difference between using torps in the aft and being forced to use SNB in the front. Try it out.
LOL...your a funny guy if you think I havent "tried it out" before. My sci toon is my main, and I've run just about every layout possible in just about every ship possible with it. One thing I do know for certain, its just as hard to line up a SNB as it is to use torps in the front of whatever ship I'm flying. The torps in the aft argument is hilarious because that means your just making a straight line away from the fight where you cant support your team.
Your other comment about a voquv having less science slots than an atrox to shield heal is also false. It has an ensign slot instead of a LtC slot which will provide a weaker heal, but it still has the same amount of slots to equip. The voquv having a LtC tac slot actually makes it a better carrier imo.
Also, if you'd get your head out, you may notice that the new energy weapons doff that lowers beam cd's could get you rotating a FAW2 on that build back to back while still holding onto your precious TT for zombie/mode. FAW2 tac buffed is THE best thing you can do with that carrier being a tac. Of course that means 100 weapon power which means less zombie/mode I suppose.
The majority of us also dont really care anymore that you dont use EptS. Please just dont go spreading it around to others that its a useless ability, because its just not true and you're hurting others with that advice if they don't know any better. Not sure why you think a cruiser running two copies of EptS3 is a good idea, but its a terrible idea for a squishier carrier that relies on shield tanking to use it. When put that way, it sounds absolutely TRIBBLE not to be using it to the rest of us, but just not you.
So why not just take your "superior" build and prove to us by playing for awhile to prove its mettle instead of coming in here and telling us we're all wrong. The matches I've seen with you in it end up with you dying the most. Until that changes, don't expect a much respect from a community that you disrespect on a continued basis.
You're a zombie cruiser/carrier that doesnt want to use one of THE most zombie abilities in the game. We get it. Please just don't go spreading that mentality around to ppl who don't know any better. You're just hurting pvp by doing that
Sophie, you warped after I did my first serious test run on you.
Your ship would be utterly wiped out in a real pvp match, I seriously sodomized you straight down to 30 percent, infact CRF3 wasn't even finished when you were in weepy "my TRIBBLE my TRIBBLE!" green diaper and FPB mode. A second ship would have vaped you easily.
You don't have a tanky ship. You have a one trick pony at best that will get wiped straight off the map in a 2v2 or bigger. You'd be the first target every time, and be sent straight to the respawn point. "but I killed you 2 times!" Yes.. now you are 2 and 7 to me. And you warped, after the second kill you managed to score while I was dicking around with you. And, put it this way 30 percent? = dead from a second ship when you don't have EPTS.
By the way Kilawpiteh (sp I hate your handle Kila!) has a much better tac carrier than you do. I can't even get him down to 50 percent reliably. You on the other hand? I could just piddle with all day and bounce you straight down to 30 or even lower whenever I damn well please.
The only damage you deal is literally when your FBP3 is up. Your torps are so pathetic that my native hull repair, borg proc, Defense score, shields, and hull resist stopped their damage cold. And the only reason I didn't survive the second run was a lucky BO2 crit that hit after your RSP and FPB3 came up. Your ship wouldn't however kill me in a 5v5. Even with your full FPB3 going.
Seriously man, stop posting in this thread. You've no right.
Sophlogimo you still just don't get it... I am going to go over the issue once more for you as nicely and as slowly as I can muster.
Running No EPTS on a carrier is FINE for 1 on 1s. You have proven this to yourself... I don't think you last any longer with or with out it vs a good escort... and vs a cruiser or another carrier Borg sets and tac teams your right epts is not needed.
However this game is not a 1 on 1 game as much as you would like it to be ... and when people talk about STO PvP they are NOT talking about 1 on 1.
In any size match past 1v1... that includes 3v3 (I think I remember you saying you like 3v3)... and of course the official STO standard 5v5.... you have to start thinking about multiple ships firing on you... even if its not focus. (healer faw fire ect)...
This is where Shield RESIST numbers start giving you much better returns then just straight up heals. Think of it this way....
1v1... incoming DPS 5-10k per second....
Yes you can tac team to buff your shield facing up... you can spam a ton of hull heals and you can sit pretty through that with shield resists and shield power setting.
3v3... incoming DPS if you get focused by 2 players... 10-20k dps...
Now you might be able to keep up with that with out the resists... however you are not unable to throw any heals to teammates or you will fall behind on your own heal cycle.
5v5... incoming DPS if you get focused by 4 players... 20k-40k dps...
Now at this point you are screwed unless you have an RSP up or a high shield resist number... you NEED to cut that dmg down, you can't just use straight up heals to keep up with the incoming dmg.
Now the reason everyone is saying you really should be running EPTS... consider that 20-40k incoming ends up being 40k... if you have an extra 30% shield resist... you can drop that dmg to 28k give or take... that reduces 4 players incoming fire down to the level of 2 players... and in a real world match not all 4 of those players will be hitting you that hard...
In any event if you can't see the value in massively reducing your incoming dmg with a skill that has such a low opportunity cost, then there really is no help for you.
PS on pretty much every ship I fly I always run 1 copy of EPTS 1... I don't run EPTS 2 or 3 on any ship I have... I like to build my ships to go.. I fly to kill people... even my engi healer only runs EPTS 1... that is enough to weather the worst... and honesty I keep my hammers and debuffers alive and they remove preasure from me when I get it. No one is saying load 2 copies on there or load the highest version you can get... just run one copy of level 1 man you will be much more solid outside of your 1 on 1s.
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you probly just got luckly with noobs dude...honestly.......im not trying to rip you apart. i reserve that for ingame trash talk mostly and people that dont care about even semi balance and use the lame p2w stuff when in all honestly i know they are better players then that. so in another words when i see semi ok players abuse lameness its ok for me to disrespect them in many ways.
now for the escourts that you have poped ( i see no reason to lie. i thought i was awesome when i was blowing up people too till i stoped my 1v1 bs and got into real matches against awesome players ) i am glad that you are getting into pvp and starting with 1v1 first. it will give you a feel for the game and how it plays out. it will get you to time your powers and how to counter. again its small steps. TRIBBLE it will even show you why using boarding party 3 is useless. 1v1 will show you what works what dont. but....humm... a big BUT........it will not gear you for team play.a good example was i loved bo3. its really good. killed alot of people with it solo. i got into pvp and found it much harder. TRIBBLE i got less people with it and only got luckly with it. reason is with all the cross healing like extends just made me lose dps in the end. then mav came along and told me how to use it. you need a game plan. use tbr so that person cant get to the healer and if the healer shoots over with evasive the tbr will push him away and just unload the bo. i mean even in pvp im getting wacked all the time on my scourt with bo 2 bo 3 and use a simple use of epts i just lol it off and yell noobs at my screen while trying not to laugh so i can focus on my screen. cause i remember a time i thought bo was awesome to shoot at random too. or to try to take a shield facing down.
but in reality you take the facing down but still have the epts resist with tss and well many people have 3 purple sheild doffs. thoes are now my crutch. i no longer need to hit evasive as much and zoom around the map holding out for a heal. they keep you in the fight alot longer. see your in this carrier and think this fat piece of junk has so much hp that your chance of getting killed is slim to none. but your very wrong. my defiant has 70% on d. your carrier has 60%. alot of people have 80% d and 85% with aegis.( or 90%?) this is alot. sure my 70% d can go toe to toe with awesome players that have the 80%, but ill have to work for it. your 60%.......what are you thinking with not going epts?
listen lets do a 1v1. ill even take my sheilds off for you and see if you can kill me. ill shoot at you and use heals. if you cant kill me but i can pop you with no sheilds on will you at least try epts? im betting on my 70% defense and skill of using an escourt and buffs to keep me alive. the way i see it working in my head is that with you not using epts its basically the same thing.
i think using a sub nuke in the front is much easier then torps in the back. try it out.
:rolleyes:
Yeah, what does an entire subforum of high-level minmaxers in premades know about the game.
now for your TRIBBLE carrier.......and i dont mean this against you, the carrier in general is just TRIBBLE. its a spam fest for no skilled players that are only skilled in spam. i use the carrier and i admit that. but i use stalker fighters to cut down the lameness and just get pwned faster because i dont load up on 1 mill tractor fest. your lame Atrox will NOT be a dedicated healer. sorry its not possible. so knowing this and you dont use epts what are you going to do if u had to face me in my escourt? and i told you ill come into the fight with no sheilds. because me not having sheilds is just about the same as you due to the fact you dont use epts. i would love to see you verse minimax in a 1v1 when he hits you with a vm and a psw. just say good bye at that point.
and yes you versed nubs in your 1v1 test. i would really love to try killing you with no sheilds, would love it. and i know i actually can. sad but true. reason due to my speed and your lack of attack. and i can out heal your damage while you cant out heal the damage i do to your ship. i do dps, what a tact was designed to do. you on the other hand just take up space. your not even a good meat sheild to soak up damage. just take your sheilds off...they do nothing for you. now i see why people just dont really act.......right?......towards you? if that makes any sense to you? its in your post. why post if your not even willing to give any ideas a try? i still cant get over capt acting like that towards you. your ideas are flawed. and if you keep this attitude of "im doing it the trek way" then grow up trek was a show this is a game. get out of your mother basement go out talk to girls bla bla bla. actually i remember paricard even saying epts or full power to sheilds? either or. so yeah sheilds are most important, once they go then u need to learn to hull tank or die.
the only possible way for you to think that running 2 EPtS3 isn't the single best way to insure your survival, is for you to be not smart enough to use TT, or distribute your shields. EPtS3 is this game's version of death proof easy mode. use this, balance your shields, and you will survive all but an entire team shooting at you.
you need few hull heals if you handle your shields correctly, just enough to counter the momentary breach and bleed damage. focusing mainly on tanking and hull healing is useless. hull resistance cant approach how high you can raise shield resistance, and the less numeric damage you take due to resistance, the less you have to heal. sky high shield resistance is reachable with ensign level skills, high hull resistance takes all your engineering console slots and 2 fully speced tier 4 and a tier 5 skill. opportunity costs make 1 of these paths invalid.
lmao there fixed!!!!!!!!!!
@sophlogimo ok we can do a fight. when are you ready for this 1v1?
so im just shooting at him wating for him to use rsp get done with fbp and wait for that sci team to hit. st pops hit all my buffs all he has now is to hope for borg proc. well he died.
he cant even see how epts would keep him alieve along with the rsp and st with a full aux for fbp 3. so what ever he claims his build is good im done.......next time im going in my defiant for a cloaked alpha
Logimo deals 233 (678) FeedbackPulse to you with Feedback Pulse II.
[Combat (Self)] Your Dual Heavy Disruptor Cannons deals 2559 (4482) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Logimo.
his highest hit my lowest hit
The advanced stalker pets did well to dirupt my attacks and prevent me from gettign that perfect full buffed shot off on him when he was weak, all but 3 times. I killed him as easy as any cat carrier those 3 times.
He however didnt have anythign to lose from my using viral matrix on him, with no aux based healing. unique mtachup gg
again ill say it for like the 100th time. i stayed on your back. i did not even hit space bar. i had no sheild healing while attacking you because your dps was such TRIBBLE. your fbp2 and 3 sucked even harder then you did. the only help you really got was from borg procs that you relie on. my first attack on you made you go down to 54 hp. your rsp saved you with borg procs. the fbp...well again i only used aux to sif and fought past it. if i was in my defiant i would have just used an alpha and decloaked and gg.
mini again your vm will not affect sheilds. and good point about his aux. thats why even his fbp3 sucks. i doubt hes even boosting it via consoles and aux power.
And mini quit trolling. Hell I've seen you nuke yourself and not even down one of my facings before
Do realize sophie, broken claims to have stayed in your rear arc the whole time. And you still didn't kill him.
not sure why.........tryed to prove your damage was utter TRIBBLE. i have blance sheilds and epts on space bar. yet i never had to hit it...........if my aux to sif was enought to fight your fbp 2 and 3 that should say something. i have to say 1 thing, your borg procs are the best thing on that ship to be honest. thats what saved you the most. not your et not ur st. rsp and borg procs. but what if u had epts 1 2 and rsp with borg procs? really the most annoying part was the borg gear. in the end u still died so it was not enough.
Fought 2 matches with a handicap per Logimo's request (No hangar slotted) Died once during it due to underestimating his FBP + My attack power.
FBP is a very selfish skill for a carrier, unless you are blitzing or fedbombing the enemy formation, it is pretty useless. Not all fights are 1 on 1, you should replace it with something more useful for your team such as a grav well, viral matrix, or scramble sensors.
As repeated above, run emergency power to shields, it will make the ship you "captain" far more powerful in pvp matches that aren't just 1 on 1.
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you know that 1 death is going to make him think his build is still awesome..........but wtf how did you get all 5 rounds? he would not fight me more then 2. was i not nice enough?
LOL...your a funny guy if you think I havent "tried it out" before. My sci toon is my main, and I've run just about every layout possible in just about every ship possible with it. One thing I do know for certain, its just as hard to line up a SNB as it is to use torps in the front of whatever ship I'm flying. The torps in the aft argument is hilarious because that means your just making a straight line away from the fight where you cant support your team.
Your other comment about a voquv having less science slots than an atrox to shield heal is also false. It has an ensign slot instead of a LtC slot which will provide a weaker heal, but it still has the same amount of slots to equip. The voquv having a LtC tac slot actually makes it a better carrier imo.
Also, if you'd get your head out, you may notice that the new energy weapons doff that lowers beam cd's could get you rotating a FAW2 on that build back to back while still holding onto your precious TT for zombie/mode. FAW2 tac buffed is THE best thing you can do with that carrier being a tac. Of course that means 100 weapon power which means less zombie/mode I suppose.
So why not just take your "superior" build and prove to us by playing for awhile to prove its mettle instead of coming in here and telling us we're all wrong. The matches I've seen with you in it end up with you dying the most. Until that changes, don't expect a much respect from a community that you disrespect on a continued basis.
You're a zombie cruiser/carrier that doesnt want to use one of THE most zombie abilities in the game. We get it. Please just don't go spreading that mentality around to ppl who don't know any better. You're just hurting pvp by doing that
Your ship would be utterly wiped out in a real pvp match, I seriously sodomized you straight down to 30 percent, infact CRF3 wasn't even finished when you were in weepy "my TRIBBLE my TRIBBLE!" green diaper and FPB mode. A second ship would have vaped you easily.
You don't have a tanky ship. You have a one trick pony at best that will get wiped straight off the map in a 2v2 or bigger. You'd be the first target every time, and be sent straight to the respawn point. "but I killed you 2 times!" Yes.. now you are 2 and 7 to me. And you warped, after the second kill you managed to score while I was dicking around with you. And, put it this way 30 percent? = dead from a second ship when you don't have EPTS.
By the way Kilawpiteh (sp I hate your handle Kila!) has a much better tac carrier than you do. I can't even get him down to 50 percent reliably. You on the other hand? I could just piddle with all day and bounce you straight down to 30 or even lower whenever I damn well please.
The only damage you deal is literally when your FBP3 is up. Your torps are so pathetic that my native hull repair, borg proc, Defense score, shields, and hull resist stopped their damage cold. And the only reason I didn't survive the second run was a lucky BO2 crit that hit after your RSP and FPB3 came up. Your ship wouldn't however kill me in a 5v5. Even with your full FPB3 going.
Seriously man, stop posting in this thread. You've no right.
Only if you don't understand how "strafing runs" work.
Admittedly, that's more of an Escort/Bop tactic.
On a slower larger ship, aft torpedos are nice for those that think they can come in behind you.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I weary of the chase. Wait for me. I shall be merciful and quick."
Running No EPTS on a carrier is FINE for 1 on 1s. You have proven this to yourself... I don't think you last any longer with or with out it vs a good escort... and vs a cruiser or another carrier Borg sets and tac teams your right epts is not needed.
However this game is not a 1 on 1 game as much as you would like it to be ... and when people talk about STO PvP they are NOT talking about 1 on 1.
In any size match past 1v1... that includes 3v3 (I think I remember you saying you like 3v3)... and of course the official STO standard 5v5.... you have to start thinking about multiple ships firing on you... even if its not focus. (healer faw fire ect)...
This is where Shield RESIST numbers start giving you much better returns then just straight up heals. Think of it this way....
1v1... incoming DPS 5-10k per second....
Yes you can tac team to buff your shield facing up... you can spam a ton of hull heals and you can sit pretty through that with shield resists and shield power setting.
3v3... incoming DPS if you get focused by 2 players... 10-20k dps...
Now you might be able to keep up with that with out the resists... however you are not unable to throw any heals to teammates or you will fall behind on your own heal cycle.
5v5... incoming DPS if you get focused by 4 players... 20k-40k dps...
Now at this point you are screwed unless you have an RSP up or a high shield resist number... you NEED to cut that dmg down, you can't just use straight up heals to keep up with the incoming dmg.
Now the reason everyone is saying you really should be running EPTS... consider that 20-40k incoming ends up being 40k... if you have an extra 30% shield resist... you can drop that dmg to 28k give or take... that reduces 4 players incoming fire down to the level of 2 players... and in a real world match not all 4 of those players will be hitting you that hard...
In any event if you can't see the value in massively reducing your incoming dmg with a skill that has such a low opportunity cost, then there really is no help for you.
PS on pretty much every ship I fly I always run 1 copy of EPTS 1... I don't run EPTS 2 or 3 on any ship I have... I like to build my ships to go.. I fly to kill people... even my engi healer only runs EPTS 1... that is enough to weather the worst... and honesty I keep my hammers and debuffers alive and they remove preasure from me when I get it. No one is saying load 2 copies on there or load the highest version you can get... just run one copy of level 1 man you will be much more solid outside of your 1 on 1s.
R.I.P