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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    it's on tomorrow's patch notes so It's only a DAAAAAYY AAAAAAWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY :D

    Heh..

    Picturing Gul Dukat with an Annie Wig now...


    <chuckle>
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    Heh..

    Picturing Gul Dukat with an Annie Wig now...


    <chuckle>

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  • theindefatigabletheindefatigable Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET. Perhaps this epic thread will finally see resolution! Just less than a day away now! Thank you, devs, for finally getting around to this.
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  • dkeith2011dkeith2011 Member Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jheinig wrote: »
    We're debating the possibility of adding this feature to the cross-faction BOFFs as well (that is, you could dismiss your current very rare cross-faction BOFF from Diplomacy/Marauding, and claim a different one). This would let you dismiss a very rare cross-faction BOFF that you didn't really want and pick a different one instead; it would not affect the early common (white quality) cross-faction BOFFs that you may have gotten waaaay back when Diplomacy first premiered (and if you dismissed one of those, you would not be able to replace it).

    Please do. I would love to be able to upgrade my last white DOff to something better.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    Heh..

    Picturing Gul Dukat with an Annie Wig now...


    <chuckle>

    One man's Annie is another man's Ginger, captain
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jheinig wrote: »
    We're debating the possibility of adding this feature to the cross-faction BOFFs as well (that is, you could dismiss your current very rare cross-faction BOFF from Diplomacy/Marauding, and claim a different one). This would let you dismiss a very rare cross-faction BOFF that you didn't really want and pick a different one instead; it would not affect the early common (white quality) cross-faction BOFFs that you may have gotten waaaay back when Diplomacy first premiered (and if you dismissed one of those, you would not be able to replace it).

    I would actually prefer if you just added more tokens to the other commendation tiers since it looks unlikely we'll see rewards that are as unique for other categories.

    Science: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Engineering: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Military: A member of the opposite faction has seen the futility of war and wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Exploration: A colony has been discovered based on your work containing members of the other faction who are sympathetic to your faction. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Espionage: Your work in destabilizing enemy morale has caused a defection. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Medical: Your medical crew has saved the life of a member of the other faction who has sworn loyalty to you now. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Colonial: A refugee from the other faction turned up at a colony and was sent to you. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Trade: Your business dealings have resulted in the accidental acquisition of a promissory note from a mercenary, offering their services. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Development: A member of the other faction who is obsessed with atheletics and who was bested in a sports tournament has requested to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Recruitment: Your reputation as a developer of personnel has led to a member of the opposite faction, raised by adoptive parents of your faction, requesting a place on your crew.

    My one big request with this would be allowing these BOs to wear faction appropriate uniforms.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    One man's Annie is another man's Ginger, captain

    Ginger .......... Annie

    I think yer steaming toward a foul reef there Sir...

    The Captain of the Titanic wouldn't even had made that gross of a misjudgment.

    :eek:
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I would actually prefer if you just added more tokens to the other commendation tiers since it looks unlikely we'll see rewards that are as unique for other categories.

    Science: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Engineering: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Military: A member of the opposite faction has seen the futility of war and wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Exploration: A colony has been discovered based on your work containing members of the other faction who are sympathetic to your faction. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Espionage: Your work in destabilizing enemy morale has caused a defection. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Medical: Your medical crew has saved the life of a member of the other faction who has sworn loyalty to you now. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Colonial: A refugee from the other faction turned up at a colony and was sent to you. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Trade: Your business dealings have resulted in the accidental acquisition of a promissory note from a mercenary, offering their services. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Development: A member of the other faction who is obsessed with atheletics and who was bested in a sports tournament has requested to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Recruitment: Your reputation as a developer of personnel has led to a member of the opposite faction, raised by adoptive parents of your faction, requesting a place on your crew.

    My one big request with this would be allowing these BOs to wear faction appropriate uniforms.

    That's pretty clever...

    Though I think for Development, I'd go with something along the lines of Archer beating Shran in The Ushaan.
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jheinig wrote: »
    We're debating the possibility of adding this feature to the cross-faction BOFFs as well (that is, you could dismiss your current very rare cross-faction BOFF from Diplomacy/Marauding, and claim a different one). This would let you dismiss a very rare cross-faction BOFF that you didn't really want and pick a different one instead; it would not affect the early common (white quality) cross-faction BOFFs that you may have gotten waaaay back when Diplomacy first premiered (and if you dismissed one of those, you would not be able to replace it).

    So what do those of us that have the common "Exchange Officer" from the old system do?
    (Not a complaint, just an honest question)
    I would actually prefer if you just added more tokens to the other commendation tiers since it looks unlikely we'll see rewards that are as unique for other categories.

    Science: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Engineering: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Military: A member of the opposite faction has seen the futility of war and wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Exploration: A colony has been discovered based on your work containing members of the other faction who are sympathetic to your faction. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Espionage: Your work in destabilizing enemy morale has caused a defection. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Medical: Your medical crew has saved the life of a member of the other faction who has sworn loyalty to you now. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Colonial: A refugee from the other faction turned up at a colony and was sent to you. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Trade: Your business dealings have resulted in the accidental acquisition of a promissory note from a mercenary, offering their services. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Development: A member of the other faction who is obsessed with atheletics and who was bested in a sports tournament has requested to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Recruitment: Your reputation as a developer of personnel has led to a member of the opposite faction, raised by adoptive parents of your faction, requesting a place on your crew.

    My one big request with this would be allowing these BOs to wear faction appropriate uniforms.

    I like the idea but I would rather instead of getting a Boff from the oposite faction, they develop some very rare Boff that can only be obtained through these means. They can be side specific or even neutral.
  • theindefatigabletheindefatigable Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    One man's Annie is another man's Ginger, captain

    That would be nice, since IIRC the two male tactical Gorn are identical instead of having slightly different traits. or something like that.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    That would be nice, since IIRC the two male tactical Gorn are identical instead of having slightly different traits. or something like that.

    OK... I think I've missed something here.... ???
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  • theindefatigabletheindefatigable Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    It's been a while. I think there were two variants of various BOFFS available, in terms of their traits, but that wasn't the case with the tactical Gorn officer. I remember I wanted mine to be able to "bite," but that was not available on the tactical officer but was on science and engineering. Maybe that's been fixed.
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  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    I cannot wait to "exchange" my current Android for an updated one :D

    Could we get the same gusto surrounding the cloaking bug now? ;)
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    That's pretty clever...

    Though I think for Development, I'd go with something along the lines of Archer beating Shran in The Ushaan.

    Good point.

    My other couple of suggestions here would be:

    - Longterm, look at having a special ship you can trade exotic BOs for via project. For 5 exotic BOs, you get the ship. (This way, someone with fully maxed DOff categories can have a full exotic away team and a use for the other 5.) Likewise, maybe super-exotic BOffs you can trade for at a 2:1 rate like Tholian-in-EV suit BOs.

    - Look at expanding out the Marauding/Diplomacy BOff stores to include BOs from third party factions, possibly including Sci/Eng Breen, Tac/Eng Remans, Ground-traited Romulans, Cardassians, etc. All available from Jiro or the KDF equivalent. All available for a token. All DO categories award the same token with a different text hail explaining how you got the BO.

    - Possibly have a rare assignment or project for people who completed all categories to get additional tokens, once you have a project that consumes the exotic BOs.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    I like the idea but I would rather instead of getting a Boff from the oposite faction, they develop some very rare Boff that can only be obtained through these means. They can be side specific or even neutral.

    As I elaborated in my last post, I'd actually be in favor of expanding out Jiro/Klingon guy's store to include more non-Fed/KDF BOs.

    But make it so that all DOff categories award the same token, letting you pick.

    It would allow you to have full away teams of the commendation BOs you want.

    And maybe look at something similar to the Veteran BOs given out from the dil conversion as an option there too.

    Something like:

    Outer World Human (for Fed) and Outer World Klingon (for KDF).

    The vet traits are:

    Veteran: Unique Ground Trait. Provides a bonus to damage and dodge chance for all team members, and a personal bonus to critical hit chance.

    Space Warfare Specialist: Unique Space Trait. Provides a bonus to Starship Maneuvers, Starship Targeting Systems, Starship Energy Weapons, and Starship Projectile Weapons, which improves maneuverability, chance to hit, and damage output.

    Maybe the Outer World Humans/Klingons could have the Space Warfare Trait and be options from Jiro/Klingon guy for people who want something IP appropriate. Maybe the normally Andorian only Fury trait? The core idea being sortof Tasha/Ishara Yar humans.
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I would actually prefer if you just added more tokens to the other commendation tiers since it looks unlikely we'll see rewards that are as unique for other categories.

    Science: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Engineering: Your scientific work attracts to attention of a specialist from the opposite faction who wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Military: A member of the opposite faction has seen the futility of war and wants to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Exploration: A colony has been discovered based on your work containing members of the other faction who are sympathetic to your faction. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Espionage: Your work in destabilizing enemy morale has caused a defection. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Medical: Your medical crew has saved the life of a member of the other faction who has sworn loyalty to you now. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Colonial: A refugee from the other faction turned up at a colony and was sent to you. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Trade: Your business dealings have resulted in the accidental acquisition of a promissory note from a mercenary, offering their services. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Development: A member of the other faction who is obsessed with atheletics and who was bested in a sports tournament has requested to join your crew. Get a token to take to Jiro.

    Recruitment: Your reputation as a developer of personnel has led to a member of the opposite faction, raised by adoptive parents of your faction, requesting a place on your crew.

    My one big request with this would be allowing these BOs to wear faction appropriate uniforms.

    I really like this idea a LOT, though I would favor expanding the Commendation BO roster beyond just the opposite faction. I'd love to see some of these as unique BO's that you could put into the correct uniform for your faction (if desired).

    For example, I'd like to see Exploration award an Alien BO instead of a cross-faction one and Espionage ought to give you a pick between a Romulan or a Cardassian; the selection should be appropriate to the category.
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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    One man's Annie is another man's Ginger, captain

    Ginger .......... Annie

    I think yer steaming toward a foul reef there Sir...

    The Captain of the Titanic wouldn't even had made that gross of a misjudgment.

    :eek:

    Did someone say Ginger?

    :cool:

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  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    darkenzedd wrote: »
    I cannot wait to "exchange" my current Android for an updated one

    Is this change live? Can I go do it now?
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    What are the current rewards for diplomacy, if you start a new character now? I have the white BO, and then I got a purple one from Jiro, I'm wondering if that's what I should have?
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    What are the current rewards for diplomacy, if you start a new character now? I have the white BO, and then I got a purple one from Jiro, I'm wondering if that's what I should have?

    Pretty much the uniform, Transwarp powers, sector speed buff, purple bridge officer, and duty officers. The white bridge officer is no longer available.
  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So new characters only get one opposite faction BO now? That's a bummer. I would have thought they get two. I guess that fact that he BOs aren't bound helps that issue, though.
  • altechachanaltechachan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    hanover2 wrote: »
    Is this change live? Can I go do it now?

    Patch was pushed back to 11PM PST, so as of this post it isn't live yet.
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  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    hanover2 wrote: »
    Is this change live? Can I go do it now?
    Patch was pushed back to 11PM PST, so as of this post it isn't live yet.


    What this guy said. :cool:
  • themartianthemartian Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    So new characters only get one opposite faction BO now? That's a bummer. I would have thought they get two. I guess that fact that he BOs aren't bound helps that issue, though.

    The purple BO is bound. I found that out the hard way when I got a Gorn I was intending to give to an alt and was stuck with it. A token to be able to change it to something helpful for the original captain would be a nice fix (though not what I want).

    Hopefully with Android sorted, they can sort out marauders BOs as I also have a Trill taking up space KDF side. That was a colossal disappointment too.
    My alt army:
    K'ymara, Orion Engineer. Caedera of Borg, Liberated Borg Tactical, Elyza Vix, Joined Trill Scientist. Christina Bellona, Augmented Human Tactical.
    T'Lana, Vulcan Scientist. Arbol, Martian Tactical. Ayzer Bryn, Joined Trill Engineer. Hawke, Betazoid Scientist. Karna Valkras, Klingon Engineer. Beth Parker, Human Tactical
    Sarel, Romulan Engineer (Federation). Yazuri, Reman Scientist (KDF)
  • ionsolionsol Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=515431 :)
    Can I close this thread down now? :P Nah, but thanks Jesse and team!

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    I honestly never expected to see this resolved, so a huge THANKS to all the Devs who finally got this completed!
    (and to Brandon for being so cheeky :P)

    themartian wrote: »
    The purple BO is bound. I found that out the hard way when I got a Gorn I was intending to give to an alt and was stuck with it.

    Wait, what?
    My main has a couple of Purple Diplomacy BOffs that I traded over from alts when I upgraded from the Common Diplomacy ones.

    Is it not supposed to work like that?
  • jtmarshjtmarsh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Just wanted to introduce my ships new Avatar.
    "EXO"
    http://i.imgur.com/vbBFA.jpg
    "Ship Made flesh"
  • nileight1nileight1 Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Trying to claim my android.
    Talk to vendor.
    Special officers.
    Need Starfleet Merits.
    Wha?
    Am I talking to the wrong person?

    Working fine on KDF side, but can't claim Starfleet side.
  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    nileight1 wrote: »
    Trying to claim my android.
    Talk to vendor.
    Special officers.
    Need Starfleet Merits.
    Wha?
    Am I talking to the wrong person?

    Working fine on KDF side, but can't claim Starfleet side.

    I'm having this issue also.
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  • mailman650mailman650 Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'm having the same issue with trying to claim the boff, Fed side.

    I had one on my character, discharged it, tried to claim a new one and now I can't.

    Update: Turns out I had no free slots on my boff roster, used one to train another boff, opened up a free space, now I can claim my android.
  • antovarasantovaras Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    nileight1 wrote: »
    Trying to claim my android.
    Talk to vendor.
    Special officers.
    Need Starfleet Merits.
    Wha?
    Am I talking to the wrong person?

    Working fine on KDF side, but can't claim Starfleet side.

    Worked fine for me, once, on Fed side. No joy after that. None of my other toons can re-claim the BOFF
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