Disable hypers in frost, yes, no or LV restricted?

How about besides level requirement for frost, you add squad size too?

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

Personally, I think that hypers in FCC should be limited to 100+ as we don't get any real exp/spirit reward for BH's

Entrance to FCC should be absolutely limited to level 75 and up.

Both of those are very easy and reasonable changes.

And if this was done, FC would need to be revamped also for more xp and harder difficulty. Then again I dont understand why they cant just revamp nirvana into such xp instance for levels 100+ so lower levels wouldnt lose their instance.

FC xp isnt that high compared to PV for example, difference is PV can be entered limited amount of times daily.

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

And if this was done, FC would need to be revamped also for more xp and harder difficulty. Then again I dont understand why they cant just revamp nirvana into such xp instance for levels 100+ so lower levels wouldnt lose their instance.

FC xp isnt that high compared to PV for example, difference is PV can be entered limited amount of times daily.

Alternatively, they could just return it to it's previous state where we had solo and squad mode and it was used for farming mats. The instance was a bit more difficult then.

I actually have the map files sitting around here for that somewhere.

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I wish. That seemed like good gear for it's level....

When I first started playing I wanted full fcc gold armor. Was so sad that I couldn't craft it!
Kinda no point to it now... but well if people don't level as fast as they used to, awesome mid-level armor/weapons would become more worth making b:victory

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

You can always hyper grind mobs on the open map. Spiders are great.

Butterfly grinding would be funb:chuckle

Reliea - Sanctuary wrote: »

When I first started playing I wanted full fcc gold armor. Was so sad that I couldn't craft it!
Kinda no point to it now... but well if people don't level as fast as they used to, awesome mid-level armor/weapons would become more worth making b:victory

omg reli :O (Davesama here, tho now playing on dw server) i bet u would just save that gear on bank :P

Now on topic. FC becomes rly need after 75-80 ish due to the quest chain, not many quests as lower levels which means less experience. Someone can Level from 1-75 without any major issues, I mean, perfect questmaster, lucid chest, easier quests with more exp than before, Goshiki chain, etc...Isn't really that hard. Wondering how viable a Mix between exp and farming instance could be, because that would be really nice, people from lvl 75-85 could get experience at the same time to farm some decent gear, which no way would make it a dead instance as some people are saying it will be

Yes its easy to hit 85 in 1 month without FC IF you have 12-18 hours a day to play not everyone has no life.

I think it's funny..... I've been saying this needs to happen ever since the first introduction of hypers..... and NOW everyone catches on that it was a bad idea to let it get this far.... Fair to say I told you so?

Anyway, Level requirement to even ENTER the instance, and then to even use hypers period, another level requirement for different MULTIPLES of boost, such as:

level 10-40, capped at x2
level 40-60, capped at x3
level 60-70, capped at x4
level 70-89, capped at x6
level 89+ and required completion 89 cultivation for x12

That's just my theory. But yes, level cap all the way

Edit: got distracted and forgot to finish my post.
People say that hypering up to high level isn't an issue, that skills and learning a class isn't hard. They're partially right. Learning a class isn't hard, but knowing the class, however, it's ins and outs, being able to time something perfectly with something else, THAT can only be obtained through the hard grind. No manner of money can buy intelligence and common sense.

Lvl restricted 80+ But then give the quest in fc later as well (its been given at 75 now i think, just move that up to 80 and all is good).

If u guys decide to keep it the way it is now, i'd like to see better rewards at 80/90+ quests. As for today i did a chain where i had to kill several mobs to get items. 1st were 50 items (took me about 100 kills to get that completed) then 60 items and after 70 items. It took forever.. And what exp did i get? 60k exp... Don't get me wrong, i love to grind and quest, i still would do that when hypers were working. But please give more rewards )

Thanks ^.^

seems to me it not so much of a gltich more possible done on purpose due to so many ppl that complain on the forms about ppl power lvlin taking out hypers in frost could be a result of that or it might be a glitch but i still dubt that is a giltich but i do agree that there should be a lvl rec to use hypers in frost lvl 85+ i do agree with it would stop alot of low lvls from hypering in frost n power lvl this way low lvls can power lvl this way not every one gets punished for it not to mention it was the bigest money maker n now with not being able to hyper in frost take out the hole point of frost now its gonna make it about as usfull as nirvana.. it would solve alot of prob n it would also bring back ppls momeny makin cus like there are not a hole lot of ways to make money ont eh server w/o buyin gold like sure there is HH / NW/ herb farmin but they all take alot of time to do not so much NW but the other 2 take a long time to do n well HH with havein a crappy drop rate takes even longer to farm eery thing i think its kinda unfair to take away stuff that ppl use for makin money cus there are ppl that are not "CASHSHOPPERS" that can aford to buy gold. .b:victory so plz bring bk hypering in frost. .b:thanks

I'm doing this game slowly, with pause periods. My last pause was from June till February.

Have cleric 92, I did few FC, but leveled mostly on questing, and dailies, and a bit on grinding.
I love FC and went there several times without HYP's, just for the fun of it.

Also have 8 more toons, all between 42 and 72. I level them through quests.
As I said, I do it slowly.

I don't need FC to level, but don't mind if people level there. Had some hard times
with too low drop rates, too low XP/SP rates, deliberately created time waste, and
that doesn't mean that I want everyone else to "suffer" because I do.

It is enough to quest/grind until level 79 to learn your class and get most needed skills.
If I don't learn by 80, then I'm too stupid and won't be able to learn even at 105.

Thanks to not going to FC, my Mystic was able to grind on level 60 mobs
around Tusk town when was level 47. And to farm Element Essence there
for that Apothecary quest in Swiftwind.
And Cleric could solo Dark Dragon Templar when was level 88.

I think that hypering in FC should be allowed from level 80 and above.
(Entering FC without HYP's should not be restricted, or should be restricted to 50+)

I also think that FC should drop mats again, just like in old days,
but with some more acceptable drop rates.

stfu0025 wrote: »

omg reli :O (Davesama here, tho now playing on dw server) i bet u would just save that gear on bank :P

Omg dave! We miss you you DW traitor b:kiss XD
And you're right >.> If I had the option now I probably would make a set anyway XD

Honestly, and I know i will have a lot of raging people after this post, I think the FCC hyper cap should be at level 90, making people go to deltas or gammas, Phoenix Valley, Bounty Hunt, Zen grinding a lot more. Then they can learn a lot more about their toon they are so eager to get to level 100/101 and kit out with their end game gear. Or maybe, somehow allow hypers to be used on characters that have been on PWi for 4 months minimum, if that is even possible. Just an idea to throw out for debate.

But I'm glad the Warsong wepon molds will be fixed, can kit out my archer \o/

Much love from SpellDancer

My main is a level 96 veno and she has never used FC to level. I agree that it should be limited, people use FC to get up to 100 quickly then leave the game because they are bored, and when you get one of them on a dungeon run most of them don't know how to handle their toon.

Or just reduce the exp drastically from 70-101. Let's say 8x less.