What annoys you or makes you angry when being in a squad?

Perfectly capable mystic "I need cleric" BH59..then when said person goes out of BB range, who heals just fine.. I'm not trying to replace a cleric, its just something mystic's can do! I do like it when we have a cleric in the squad so I can play to its full potential

"REZ BUFF" it does have a cooldown (I always buff them very lastb:chuckle)

"I'll pull" weakest link in squad, pulls and proceeds to pull all and dies. Mystic's do have summons, a much safer pull method or the tank.

When the tank doesn't aoe the mobs, either mystic or cleric heals, guess what happens?b:shocked

Other mystics that think storm mistress is bad

-BH69, level 67 cleric, level 75 mystic and squad 8x- My Mystic heals at that time were about 2k a break in the clouds, amazing right? xD I heal along with cleric, everything goes wonderful! End of the run someone says "You are the best cleric I've seen in 7 years." What the.. I was really really insulted and annoyed, I feel (not to brag or boast) that without my heals we would have failed and died..lots. I mean geez, where did my input go?
I just had to get that out there, phew. I hope I don't come off as a total tosser.

I think btw that mystics can move considerably farther when summon luring than a veno can with pet luring. (send pet, move back). Haven't used summon to lure in a long time though. I've told some people I'm not a veno when they tell me to pet pull.

CherryxRose - Archosaur wrote: »

-BH69, level 67 cleric, level 75 mystic and squad 8x- My Mystic heals at that time were about 2k a break in the clouds, amazing right? xD I heal along with cleric, everything goes wonderful! End of the run someone says "You are the best cleric I've seen in 7 years." What the.. I was really really insulted and annoyed, I feel (not to brag or boast) that without my heals we would have failed and died..lots. I mean geez, where did my input go?
I just had to get that out there, phew. I hope I don't come off as a total tosser.

Something similliar happend to me today in a BH69. I was on my seeker (85, nicely geared). A barb was tanking, cler healing, some other people dding. I didn't vortex because I wanted cler to focus on barb so situation that tank is not purified in time won't happen - my vortex would definitively make an aggro ping-pong game which is not smart. Instead I decided to use my range skills. It was all fine till cler failed to purify in time and barb died. Gaurnob aggro switched to me. So I tanked it on range, without purify and with just ocasional IH. Cler was busy with the barb over and over because barb was keep using his aggro skills right after dieing (without being buffed and fully healed) which resulted in a few barb dies. What did I hear after the boss finally died?

"Pro cler!"

Wait, wasn't it me - a poor seeker - that prevented squad wipe and tanked the boss without dependable heal/purify? Yah, it was a good job from the cler ressing the barb over and over but hey, I solo tanked the boss while he was busy doing it!b:surrender

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

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- A **** cleric, with a bug up their butt, that wont freakin heal me! Wtf with that?? Its not like I simply refuse to give you a dayum rez buff! If you see I am in the middle of a spell thats taking like 30 secs or more to cast, and Im dying, heal me, ****! Its your freakin job! b:shutup

this but when its mystic and there is no cleric

TieIer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i dont notice mystics healing even when there isnt a clericb:surrender

How can you not notice green flowery stuff around you? It's kind of not hard to miss, when your paying attention!

mrcharlyplustwo wrote: »

My party BH69, my wines.

Shout, get full squad, lvl101Cleric joins, great, I say "Thanks for joining, I get to DD for once."

Cleric doesn't purify at boss, or set up BB. Or heal the barb tank. They DD. They did ress me when I died (twice so didn't have time to self-cast Ress).

So for Pole and Nob I ended up healing. Near squad wipe on Pole until I realised that the cleric wasn't healing.

Wouldn't have minded if they'd said they wouldn't be healing, but they didn't.

Don't expect a level 100+ to heal low level. (I don't say it's good or bad)

They will usually DD so it go more fast.

When I go on a low bh on my mystic I tell people that can't handle AOE without heal to stay out of AOE range, I personally won't waste 10 minutes to heal a tank when I can kill the boss in 15 seconds. If the squad want to be heal then they are free to take a cleric of their level.

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

Im confused. If the cleric wasnt purifying on Pole, how were they surviving then?.

People didn't survive (including the cleric, so they didn't purify or healthemselves). the only ones that did were the ones who ran.

On second attempt I spammed FP, Heal, healing herbs and salvation on the tank. We only just managed.

What annoyed me was that I *said* I was going to DD. Reasonable to assume that the cleric would do heal & support.

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

Im confused. If the cleric wasnt purifying on Pole, how were they surviving then?

If The barb they had was lvl 80-89 (lvl for BH69) and the cleric 101 was DDing than the cleric should have aggro, the Pole/nob doesn't AOE debuff, but only debuff the tank AKA the person that have aggro. (People dying to AOE damage would have not be saved by purify)

Point is when a healer (mystic/cleric) lvl100+ go help for a low bh they will usually solo it faster than if they was healing. So nvm the class 100+ that help, the low lvl people should follow and assist him.

The logic is the mystic 8x should have heal and let the cleric 101 DD, beside think ''I'm lvl 8x and I'll DD while the cleric 101 heal''. When there's a cleric and mystic of the same lvl range the cleric should be the main healer, if it's 2 clerics or 2 mystics of the same lvl then the one with the better weapon should be the DDer and the other the healer (ofc the DDer can assist heal if needed), BUT in the case of 2 healers nvm the class of different range lvl like in that case 8x and 101 the logic is the 101 have more DD power he should be the DDer and the healer 8x the main healer. (but what I don't understand it's if the cleric was only DDing how the mystic didn't realize it before nob/pole? I hardly imagine the cleric was healing for mobs and not for boss, so the mystic had time to realize it before the squad wipe)

I'm 102 on my mystic, I don't mind to go help low lvl bh, but I won't waste 50 mp pots to heal a tank for 10 minutes if I can solo it in 15 seconds (which is the case for me I do pole/nob solo in 15 seconds). I warn at the start that I won't be healing, but ''soloing'', I tell them to stay behind me or assist on the mobs I DD. They are free to take my help or refuse it and get a healer of their lvl if they want.

But as usual it's a communication issue, people don't communicate anymore, so people need to be smarter. Both are to blame, not just the cleric, the mystic was able to ask the cleric if she was gonna heal or DD at the start of the run.

The only advice I can give for a mystic/cleric low lvl with a high lvl mystic/cleric in squad is, let the high lvl DD and heal people, but the high lvl should heal himself so focus on the others specially in BH 39/51/69 where there's AOE boss that hurt.

I know some people don't like that high lvl solo BH boss cause low lvl don't get experience, but unfortunately it's a reality that a lvl100+ won't just go waste 1 hour to watch people learn their class in a low BH. If you want to learn experience then take people of your lvl range and decline politely high lvl. Squad wipe is one of the frustrating, but positive experience.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

If The barb they had was lvl 80-89 (lvl for BH69) and the cleric 101 was DDing than the cleric should have aggro, the Pole/nob doesn't AOE debuff, but only debuff the tank AKA the person that have aggro. (People dying to AOE damage would have not be saved by purify)

Point is when a healer (mystic/cleric) lvl100+ go help for a low bh they will usually solo it faster than if they was healing. So nvm the class 100+ that help, the low lvl people should follow and assist him.

The logic is the mystic 8x should have heal and let the cleric 101 DD, beside think ''I'm lvl 8x and I'll DD while the cleric 101 heal''. When there's a cleric and mystic of the same lvl range the cleric should be the main healer, if it's 2 clerics or 2 mystics of the same lvl then the one with the better weapon should be the DDer and the other the healer (ofc the DDer can assist heal if needed), BUT in the case of 2 healers nvm the class of different range lvl like in that case 8x and 101 the logic is the 101 have more DD power he should be the DDer and the healer 8x the main healer. (but what I don't understand it's if the cleric was only DDing how the mystic didn't realize it before nob/pole? I hardly imagine the cleric was healing for mobs and not for boss, so the mystic had time to realize it before the squad wipe)

I'm 102 on my mystic, I don't mind to go help low lvl bh, but I won't waste 50 mp pots to heal a tank for 10 minutes if I can solo it in 15 seconds (which is the case for me I do pole/nob solo in 15 seconds). I warn at the start that I won't be healing, but ''soloing'', I tell them to stay behind me or assist on the mobs I DD. They are free to take my help or refuse it and get a healer of their lvl if they want.

But as usual it's a communication issue, people don't communicate anymore, so people need to be smarter. Both are to blame, not just the cleric, the mystic was able to ask the cleric if she was gonna heal or DD at the start of the run.

The only advice I can give for a mystic/cleric low lvl with a high lvl mystic/cleric in squad is, let the high lvl DD and heal people, but the high lvl should heal himself so focus on the others specially in BH 39/51/69 where there's AOE boss that hurt.

I know some people don't like that high lvl solo BH boss cause low lvl don't get experience, but unfortunately it's a reality that a lvl100+ won't just go waste 1 hour to watch people learn their class in a low BH. If you want to learn experience then take people of your lvl range and decline politely high lvl. Squad wipe is one of the frustrating, but positive experience.

I wouldnt decline high level help. Its a tough BH. As I said above this post, the high level is going to pull aggro anyway. Even if the high level doesnt know that they will, lol.

mrcharlyplustwo wrote: »

The barb was spamming FR nonstop - the near wipe happened when they ran out of Chi and couldn't FR, I pulled heal aggro, died, barb died, cleric pulled aggro, died, rest ran.

The barb is fail if you got aggro by healing. Other people should have got aggro before you, are you sure you didn't die by AOE, cause there's something wrong if you are the healer and die first during the boss, if that was at the start cause you healed to early I could understand, but during a boss the only way the healer get aggro and die it's if the tank die. Other than that DD would had get aggro if the tank lost aggro, not you.

I never ever saw a healer get aggro while the tank is still alive and DD on the boss (boss with no random aggro like pole/nob) and I leveled 2 clerics old way and my mystic so that bh (and other) I did it more than you can even imagine and never saw that.

severely annoyed by clerics that tell me if i should heal or dd.
seeing how my main is a cleric i know how life can be made easier when a mystic comes along for the ride. i would never be so rude as to tell another person how to play their class, unless it is well meant advice on how to improve the results as a squad as a whole.
mostly when i start healing as a mystic it means either the cleric present might need the support, or im trying to make their life easier. its a damn shame it is mostly taken as an insult or a kick in the balls of their ego's with all the insulting consequences that follow.b:surrender

Them or some one telling me to res buff some one else.

I don't care about getting early aggro since my mystic is HA and can take Damage quite well and survive with heals and plant and falling petals and such though...I...won't....die!

LadyTsuki - Harshlands wrote: »

How was it wasting your time when they were helping you out?

They weren't helping: they were a total waste of squad space.

Sometimes it's good to cover the bases and make sure that no one dies period. Sometimes BB does get cancelled out.

Frontal aoe -avoidable, and: " when healing was far from needed". Healer isn't even necessary and to have 2 people healing is total waste.

Guess I would have to say the annoying thing while in squad as mystic is when everyone wants a rez buff but they're not thinking about the fact it costs a lot of mana to buff everyone in squad. I try to do so without being asked (there were a few times I was the sole healer so I had to pick up the slack a little more) but I don't like it when people are impatient, spam me in squad about a rez buff-even after I've told them to wait on CD-and then rush off, get killed, and whine they didn't have rez buff. Seriously, some people don't understand the statement "patience is virtue". It won't kill you to wait an extra few seconds until I can get rez buff on. Another problem is some forget that mystics aren't clerics. Mystics can heal so much but they're heals are still not as powerful as a cleric's. Clerics are meant to have stronger heals, while mystics have good heals and can be good DD. I know sometimes mystics are the only healers in squad (as I noted earlier, I have been in that situation before) but some people get demanding on them. Clerics use up less mana while healing and whatnot; that's not the case for mystics. It just urks me when people do that. Some people know what it's like, for some have mystics too, while others who have never played a magic user before with a heal and don't get it and keep complaining as if someone's done them a disservice x.x