Main Discussion about NW pricing and effect on game
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Those big CSers really want to TW and just 1shot People? thats a ****** ijs, for those vanax farmers, do they really think that everyone can farm their gears? all i see on WC is " LF Multi Vana runs need 4-5aps only" wtf so fakin demanding, how about the rest then?
Do they really have no intention of helping everyone who cant afford their stuff cuz they are Selfish
is everyone worried to make coins now that vanax xtals can easily obtain now? (even though only OP people farms them 4-5 aps of gtfo!!!)
there is still alots of way to make Coins aside from farming Vanax, just use ur Damn Brain! QQ wont Help u to make 1 step forward.
I say Thanks to this Update, with this, TW will be more FUN (I guess?)
Scared of rrr9's? **** them u dont TW on ur own, you have someone with u...
this is my opinion about this update, anw im saying this even im 1 of those Big CSers.
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Wtf is a 'vanax'?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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ahahah sure go ahead, get your cheap "vanax" gear, but just wait a bit till all previous R9 gets cheap R9r2 and super-cheap R9r3, then they will 1-shoot you once again with or without your cheap "vanax" gear.
Its not about gear, its about power gap, with the new expansion the gap only got worse, have fun getting ***** in NW.
People are so blind b:shutupThe only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
vanax...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »ahahah sure go ahead, get your cheap "vanax" gear, but just wait a bit till all previous R9 gets cheap R9r2 and super-cheap R9r3, then they will 1-shoot you once again with or without your cheap "vanax" gear.
Its not about gear, its about power gap, with the new expansion the gap only got worse, have fun getting ***** in NW.
People are so blind b:shutup
Youre the one whos blind i think, g16 vana is almost equal to r90 -
And you think r9 stays in r9 when they get a basically free s3r9 with time?b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Youre the one whos blind i think, g16 vana is almost equal to r9
close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades...
People don't like other people getting the same gear because it is the power gap being closed for a time... How dare someone get for free or reduced what I spent x amount of money on... Its not fair
People payed good money to be the bully and now the playing field is being evened out just a little.... for a time anyways... wait 6 months the next update will have some new overpowered recast or rank armor that people will obtain within the week[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Other names include but not limited to LOKl_ _ClRCE_, _AnGeal_0 -
Accalica - Heavens Tear wrote: »And you think r9 stays in r9 when they get a basically free s3r9 with time?b:chuckle
Yeah that what I said....but people just aren't unable to figure it out b:shutupThe only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »Ghoul always complaining about aps blah blah blah
He gets Nirvana as an excuse, while the real problem was the APS.
I don't see how he's so happy about NW, I don't recall barbs being that good for TW(And I assume NW its similar). TW/NW its best played with a caster or an archer.... I don't think a an equally geared barb could get as many kills as Wiz/Psy/Archer.
And as been said a million of times....MAKE A NON-APS SQUAD yourself instead of sitting in a corner watching world chat and doing nothing. But yeah,easier to complain than move your back.
So what you gonna complain next, about casters pwning you in NW?
Actually my friend is a R9 barb and he does well in NW he got over 400 tokens in one NW last weekend.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Do you really think that PWI will hand out something beneficial to f2p players? This move was a win win for them, it`s basically, hey look we are giving r9 players free recast, seeing how powerful and now easily obtainable it is, imagine how many potential cash shoppers will be attracted by it.
Lazy people who are happy they get NV3 gear for virtually doing nothing, soon will be in same state as before when you compare r8 vs r9 and now NV3 vs 3R9, besides, now that the most farmed instance is dead, good luck putting some good refines on those newly-obtained gears since most people will be broke, like many have already said, these new NW forges are a rather good coin sink.[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=14516063001&dateline=1364756666[/SIGPIC] Ty Silvy
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dunno if i got this right, but can you get r9 recast from forges, too?0
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Szol - Harshlands wrote: »dunno if i got this right, but can you get r9 recast from forges, too?
R9 second recast its made via cannies / raptures (A LOT of them). The reason why servers weren't crowed by R9r2 its because the enormous amount of cannies/raptures required. Now that they're gonna be very cheap, so will be R9r2(At least a lot cheaper).The only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
Sidwinder - Heavens Tear wrote: »Actually my friend is a R9 barb and he does well in NW he got over 400 tokens in one NW last weekend.
I wasn't saying a barb can't do well, I was saying that he can hardly perform as good as a similarly geared Wiz/Psy/Archer.The only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
Is "farming vanax" some sort of drug reference? Am I missing some sort of double entendre here or something?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I'm pretty sure that by "vanax" they mean nirvana, and also, it isn't selfish to want to farm nirvy all day everyday during 2x, it's what 2x is for for APS people, now that nirvy has become obselete r9 3rd cast is A LOT easier to obtain, so as said previously, why would you actually stay r9 when you can get r9 3rd cast or at least 2nd cast almost with ease. And @OP you obviously have NOT payed attention to world chat much, there are TT squads, FC squads and all that going, you can also go out and grind mobs, which, in the long run, can make you quite a lot of profit, I earnt 200m+ just from grinding non stop during 2x, which is a lot more than my friends made with nirvy. You can also farm/merch which is my profession in-game due to the fact I don't cash shop, all my gear? I got that from grinding, farming and merching, now stop your QQ'ing and use the time you had to make this thread for making coins in-game b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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<_< I dunno. Barbs are the best flagrunners in the game. They have the speed to evade and usually the hp/def to survive a few pokes. The killing aspect is mostly extra.
As it was mentioned earlier, I'd like to see one of the NW times changed to a time more fitting of the european/asian/aussie community's timeframe. I'm in the US, and 2 events per week is more than enough, plus I hate the fact that those folks are getting alienated from the fun. Even if they do still benefit from the cheaper nirvana mats.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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This is what's wrong with the expansion. While some of us are irritated that we put a lot of work into farming our g15/g16 gear, it's how much easier getting full 3RD cast R9 has become that is the big problem with the expansion. Never mind that the gear is completely unnecessary but when that can come out of stealth on you, and hit you with an attack that is extremely likely to do double, even four times damage, what's the point of even playing? And it's not just sins, basically any character with third cast R9 gear is capable of one shotting pretty much anything in anything less than that. It's unnecessarily powerful, and now it can be yours for virtually nothing if you already have R9.
The expansion hasn't done anything significant for the people who were badly-average geared prior to NW, it's just raised the bar for minimum gear requirements, I wish all of the 'casual' players who've been spamming the forum praising it could see that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Terrastrike - Lost City wrote: »This is what's wrong with the expansion. While some of us are irritated that we put a lot of work into farming our g15/g16 gear, it's how much easier getting full 3RD cast R9 has become that is the big problem with the expansion. Never mind that the gear is completely unnecessary but when that can come out of stealth on you, and hit you with an attack that is extremely likely to do double, even four times damage, what's the point of even playing? And it's not just sins, basically any character with third cast R9 gear is capable of one shotting pretty much anything in anything less than that. It's unnecessarily powerful, and now it can be yours for virtually nothing if you already have R9.
The expansion hasn't done anything significant for the people who were badly-average geared prior to NW, it's just raised the bar for minimum gear requirements, I wish all of the 'casual' players who've been spamming the forum praising it could see that.
thats a yes and no... Having played a full r9 sin before it was my personal opinion that omg this sucks so bad.... Yea the initial hit is hard as hell and I was running about 15k hp with high defense... However if the other player was equally geared and lvled with josd and knew what they were doing I barely tapped them (I used to have a ss of a +12 r9 sage sin hitting a wiz for something like 350 and the hp bar not moving). The only way to counter that is to have the aps to go with it and even then I was essentially defensless from all the pissed off friends that would aoe the entire area around me.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Other names include but not limited to LOKl_ _ClRCE_, _AnGeal_0 -
Massad - Harshlands wrote: »thats a yes and no... Having played a full r9 sin before it was my personal opinion that omg this sucks so bad.... Yea the initial hit is hard as hell and I was running about 15k hp with high defense... However if the other player was equally geared and lvled with josd and knew what they were doing I barely tapped them (I used to have a ss of a +12 r9 sage sin hitting a wiz for something like 350 and the hp bar not moving). The only way to counter that is to have the aps to go with it and even then I was essentially defensless from all the pissed off friends that would aoe the entire area around me.
On that private server though, everyone would have been R9 Third Cast. It's perfectly balanced when everyone else is also using the same gear (Just look at Cheze's PVP video of him fighting Rinc), but when you have it, and there's a massive gap between you and 90% of the server, it makes a huge difference. As mentioned earlier in the thread, its the significant gear gap between this and the average player that causes problems.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Terrastrike - Lost City wrote: »Wtf is a 'vanax'?
New type of drug from the Xanax family, mayhaps? b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
my question was actually aimed at r9 first recast - does this come from forges ?
cause everyone is just speaking as if anyone that has r9, now has r9 2nd castb:sad0 -
Those big CSers really want to TW and just 1shot People? thats a ****** ijs, for those vanax farmers, do they really think that everyone can farm their gears? all i see on WC is " LF Multi Vana runs need 4-5aps only" wtf so fakin demanding, how about the rest then?
Do they really have no intention of helping everyone who cant afford their stuff cuz they are Selfish
is everyone worried to make coins now that vanax xtals can easily obtain now? (even though only OP people farms them 4-5 aps of gtfo!!!)
there is still alots of way to make Coins aside from farming Vanax, just use ur Damn Brain! QQ wont Help u to make 1 step forward.
I say Thanks to this Update, with this, TW will be more FUN (I guess?)
Scared of rrr9's? **** them u dont TW on ur own, you have someone with u...
this is my opinion about this update, anw im saying this even im 1 of those Big CSers.
(full r9 +12 with b:shutup shards )
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Szol - Harshlands wrote: »my question was actually aimed at r9 first recast - does this come from forges ?
cause everyone is just speaking as if anyone that has r9, now has r9 2nd castb:sad
Basically, R9 2nd cast is made through Summerwind Tokens. These, as you can see, are made from 300 raptures and 1200 uncannies. While previously, buying such large quantities of Raptures and Uncannies was a huge feat, due to how much it would cost, the way that the NW system churns them out at just 10k per 5 uncannies, or 10k per rapture makes it a lot easier, and a lot less expensive to achieve R9 second cast. Alternatively, as the majority seem to be doing, people can be lazy and just buy them off other players, because they can do as most R9 players seem to have a large amount of disposable income, or spend half their money on the game.
Players can upgrade to second cast easily, as socket and refine transfer is free. Not only is second cast now very cheap, but third cast just requires molds from WS, alongside a relatively small fee, which is no challenge at all for your average R9.
tl:dr - Summerwind Tokens used to be a few billion coins each, now they're 5,400,000 apiece, meaning that a full set of R9 second cast gear is 48,600,000.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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Been selling my rapture 300k and uncanny crystal 50k all day and no one buy them. Market flood with rapture and uncanny.0
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Certainly different to Sanc. then...raps are selling generally around 550k..and are available...but i wouldnt say awash with them.0
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Terrastrike - Lost City wrote: »tl:dr - Summerwind Tokens used to be a few billion coins each, now they're 5,400,000 apiece, meaning that a full set of R9 second cast gear is 48,600,000.
How cheap are cannies/raps on your server that you can get a Summerwind for only 5.4m?
Edit - Oh LOL. You're going by manufacture fee. Hahaha, no.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »How cheap are cannies/raps on your server that you can get a Summerwind for only 5.4m?
Edit - Oh LOL. You're going by manufacture fee. Hahaha, no.
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