Main Discussion about NW pricing and effect on game

well, in 1 month maybe ppl will be happy. then they are done with their gear. then they just do PK and PK cause no reason for farming. then boring.....then....... quit.....

LoL there are many ppl still comeback to this game before... cause this is not private server.

GJ GM and the company

I'll have to join on this one. I wrote a pretty negative comment on the state of the game today (and I do still stand by much of what I wrote) but after having participated in this event I really think this is a game changer. Finally, those of us who can't afford heavy time/cash investments got a chance to participate in a fun activity and to do so for some very awesome rewards. I understand that a lot of people got upset with the changes this brings about but a) I'm sure that rather sooner than later the balance will shift towards the heavy CSers and no lifers and b) come on, us regular guys were long due some affection from PW.

I've been here for almost four years (I'm one of those missing the anniversary rewards by under a month) and have never seen an expansion with such potential to make things better for the larger part of the player base. And its not like I hated them all (I'm rather fond of the Earthguard expansion even if I don't actually play that race) but I can honestly say I had a LOT of fun, all of the people I know who participated did so as well, and looking forward to this event as a way to progress (instead of spamming the same instance hundreds of times) without having to be ubergeared as a requirement or spending hours forming squads and, not just that, getting to have the fun PvP TW type experience (only better) as the means for achieving our endgame goals, well, it really is a gift.

Great work PW, more work on this direction and improving on this type of content is the way to go. This is something that could really attract new players. b:thanks

The fact that you can make 1 rap and 5 cannies for 10k and 1 token is absolutely ridiculous. All the weeks spent back in the day to farm all of the nirvana stage 1, 2 and finally stage 3 means nothing now. All of that gear is absolutely worthless with current prices. The market is completely ruined. This game is no longer interesting and I hate it.

Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yar...good thinkin without thinkin...LINK

I am sorry you guys feel that way. For me this new update just wants me to play this game more. I refined my armour pieces and weapon on all my alts to +7 just to have more fun.

For me nirvana was never my income source. It was a coin sink. Now that it is gone, i can save those coins for shards, and +10, +11 and +12 orbs. Most players are not like me, F2P merchants, i never entered the vana market, so i don't feel the loss of the market. I just appreciate the fact that i can acquire all end game equipment i want at a fraction of previous cost.

I can spend my time enjoying this game with friends. We can finally start doing tm lunar for fun. Is that a bad thing to do? We can start TM aba, seat, eden, brim and get people, alts the robes the want.

Wow, just saw world chat, people are selling canny for 135k to 200k each. They have 200 canny. That is 27m for 2 hours work. Vana may be dead for you guys, but to me the vana market is still alive.

i can't attend on sunday! as it will be monday 12noon my side. b:sad

i propose adding one more on sat 8pm, which will be sunday 12pm noon for me.b:chuckleb:thanks

Hail Overlords! b:chuckle

Nation Wars was amazing. I was working with people I don't even like, to go against people I love! Brilliant!

It really brings a new aspect to the game. And the rewards? Unbelievable. The gap between cs'ers and no lifers and those who can't afford to drop $1000's and have lives, well...shrunk within minutes. Brilliant.

Keep it the way it is! Well...maybe bind the rewards to the specific account (not character). That may appease the QQ'ers a bit. Not by much b:kiss

Oh soz, guess that won't happen anymore, gg

now i know why they got exta mods, cuz nirvana is over, why bog down customer service, just get some lackys to handle the qq

yea moved, removed thats how u handle the issue

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

. If you guys want to discuss the nirvana market crash, this is the place to do it. Normally, we close threads when people make duplicate threads about the same issues. But for now I'm just trying to keep all the discussions in one place because this expansion has numerous issues people want to discuss. Including servers vs server, dq price nerf, new changes, nirvana market crash, skill rebalancing, and many people can't even get into the game so tech support is posting double time. A whole new client was released by the way. I'm just trying to make sure everyone gets heard and that none of these important issues get bumped to the second page because everyone wants their own thread. I appreciate your guys understanding during this busy time.

b:thanks

Just gonna repost this here. Anyway, it's the weekend atm. So the best thing to do is remain calm. We probably won't get anymore responses about this than we already have until Monday. In the meantime, please make sure you're posting any ideas you may have about to fix this issue too! Anything and anything helps. b:pleased

::passes out cookies to everyone::

edit: Thread renamed at request of OP. Thanks NowitsAwn

DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »

First Nations Wars just ended and i have to say...






TY GMS

Event was enjoyable moving between lands, choosing which to defend/attack and when to bail on a war you know your gonna lose. And having players from different factions help each other instead of killing one another was interesting (never thought i'd have Chinatown bodyguards). And then the rewards b:dirty hooooly **** its actually gonna be possible to farm 3rd cast r9 w/o CSing. Thank you for this event.

i gues people are more mature on LC, in here some people seemed to let me die when i had the flag just because we are in enemy factions b:laugh

would be realy good if we could see the land name when you put mouse over it, this way would be a lot better to coordinate with squad. but the event was great imo

I am sickened by what took place today....many peeps have worked YEARS for their goal-BETTER GEARS, and now those people are slapped in the face royally by this war concept.

SLITNOT - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No issue all good my side lol.

Great event might scam a few more years of my life after that.

The prices look great already seen a few guildies living it up, great end game affect.

and when you get your endgame gear which you worked...not-so-hard-for...is it as rewarding? Does that make you want to keep playing....or bored? When you have no squads left to join think back on this

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

good, *** nirvana and spending all my time there during 2x, boring and repetitive. good riddance to bad rubbish.

I have a g16 5aps sin and BM as well as this character too. I was happy when they made BHaba/sot non-soloable and im happy about this too. I just hope coins stay somewhat in demand for cash shoppers so the gold market doesnt die, and a way for coins to be farmed, for the farmers.

That's just why people are upset though; Nirvy was a farming staple for a huge portion of the server, and now it's worthless. How are we supposed to farm coins? TT?
If all the BM's and sins who were farming nirvy turned around and started farming TT, there would be a huge influx of TT mats, and the same issue that happened with the nirvy mats would happen again. there's only so many people who need TT gear, and once you have one set you're usually good for 10 levels. and yeah; everyone needs it. But, if there's no new users coming and no way for them to buy it with PWI having recently killed the low level DQ items worth (reducing each item to 1 coin only, when previously they were near 1000.)

Where is your PvE non-cash coin coming in from?