Countries with VAT fees - Change in ZEN Charge Policy

SirHammer - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Clearly PWI is gonna lose a lot on that change cuz many ppl will simply stop charging zen, 20% increase(when u compare EUR to USD) is quite a lot and many ppl just won't do it.

THIS ^^

It won't take long and then its bye bye eurpean servers because they won't have any income anymore.

I just googled EU VAT and read the policies from the union's site. PWI has to charge the fees because they are considered to be an import service, and in the name of local competition, the union imposed higher fees on import services/goods. If, you are being charged by your credit card companies, that is a separate charge as it is coming from the credit card companies VAT fees for your use of that good as well. This is not PWI's fault, this one is the world economies fault, give Frankie and them a break. I am sure Frankie will start burning the midnight oil to try and pass on your concerns, but face it, this is to be expected with so many countries going broke from the massive social programs everyone has. Want to rage at anyone about taxes, rage at your local representation and countries leadership. Frankie can not do squat about the world's economy, he is a community manager in a video game, not the president of a country =\

El_Tigre - Raging Tide wrote: »

He Franky look up how many euro's/dollars i have spent the past years.
You gonna miss that from now on.

same here b:cute

Ty Tigre you said excatly what i wanted to say

So Europeans start to pay 2 dollars more PER 1k Zen then usual? o.o b:shocked

I don't know why so much people get mad. It is not a PWE controled issue, it's a economical one. Yes, in the short or long run, they will lose money. But I do have to say something..

Ain't the game free and cashopping a OPTION ?

Yes the company did **** up at some point by putting GEAR in boutique (well in packs), it lead to people spedning more and become somewhat more lazy. In a way it is understandable that not everyone has 12 hours per day to farm for a certain piece and want a "reward" for their hard working real life hours but still..

I think that if boutique would have stayed focused on "esthetic" stuff (mounts, flyers, fash, charms, and few random stuff), the game would have indeed receive less money from loyal players. But in a way, it would have seen a somewhat brighter future where not everyone puts their week's salary into gambling for packs (or on charms for TW/PvP)

The raise is sad for those living in those countries, but do people have to really get that mad cause they can't/won't put as much cash as they would have wanted in a F2P game ?

Maybe to compensate this a little how about dropping the boutique prices on the european server with 15% (and hear all non europeans b:cry)

b:chuckle

Well thats the end of PWI for me i am not paying and extra 20% for the gold. I live in Britain and we opted out of using the euro and it seems now many of the other member states are talking of pulling out of the euro to. I am not playing on a eauropean server but on the american ones so the EU rules don't apply. i am not importing anything so duty is not applocable. I suspect this is just another ploy by PWI to make more money so i will investigate the so called tules further.

Oh wow. What a shame, I did always like getting a nice value from the GBP - USD conversion rate... this is now too much. Why don't you just give a 20% free bonus zen offer to users paying in the EU, to even out the costs?

Too many posts so I apologise if someone said what I'm about to say.

Okay everyone being regarded by this new law involving purchases with Euro might be affected (I will not however). Those that do not charge Zen will not be affected.

Let's say PWi was paying 20% VAT on every purchase that was made, now let's assume that 20% of all of those charging Zen with Euro get angry and Ragequit or refuse to charge Zen. Guess what?

If it comes down to 20% less purchases, PWi isn't losing, nor gaining anything.

Continue being stubborn because you feel like you're being ripped off, but in reality (Aka the real world, where you can purchase useful things that you can touch, see & even smell), you were being ripped off in the beginning for virtual property, you lost the game before it started.

Well, that all depends if you thought the fun and entertainment you were paying for was was worth the cost. Also, people saying that a lack of charging zen wont effect PWE are pretty much missing the point, the increase is actually way out of alignment (theyre asking for more Euros than the VAT would require).

1. My country doesnt use Euros, so we are not effected by this law.

2. We actively opted out of the Euro currency, so again as above.

3. Even in Euros, we are paying much much more than before (What I once payed 31 GBP for now costs 39, that is more than a 20% increase in cost).

So your no longer paying the tax and if i bypass the tax system on my end too you wont be losing any money is that correct ?

Well I live in the UK and I do not live with Euros, I for one will not be charging Zen again, Bye bye PWI b:bye it was a good few years.

Good thing I pre-ordered ~removed~ today b:laugh

Guys Guys... EU has a stupid administration. U can always buy zen via prepayed Gamecards in $ and no EU VAT involved. yes u can buy cards online from offgamers for example.

http://www.offgamers.com/perfect-world/perfect-world-global/perfect-world-global-game-card-c-2244-4772-5554.ogm

Okay... so this makes no sense.
You're paying more with any payment method even though you should should get more since dollars are less in euro...

And wtf is up with prepaid cards. 9euro for 1000 zhen. How the heck does that work? << Those cards come as 10, 20 or 50 cards. Where's the other 1 euro gone that should be on them...?

El_Tigre - Raging Tide wrote: »

Too bad this isn't working. Even on the prepaid $ cards they charge 45 euro ($63) for 5300 zen. Just tried it.

Description Unit price Qty Amount
OffGamers
Item# US$10 RixtyCode $10.00 USD 1 $10.00 USD
Subtotal $10.00 USD
Total $10.00 USD
Payment $10.00 USD

works for me.
if ur credit card account is based on EU then it will always convert $ payment to euro. i have an american express card with a $ account
Forgot to mention that even if my country is in EU it is not in EuroZone. We dont pay in euro. Thats maybe involved in the matter.