Duplicated Love: Up And Downs?

I would also add that it's probably far too early after being notified of a potential issue to immediately know what the cause is.

I'm pretty sure that something like this will require investigation by people who know their way around the system technically. As far as I know, frankieraye isn't part of the technical team at PWE.

I imagine once things have been investigated that we'll find out what's been happening. Afterall, repercussions of potential duplication of items is pretty damn serious to the integrity of the game.

I appreciate people will have their views on the integrity of the game with regards to the sales that PW have ran but this potential issue I would suggest is as or more serious as it's something outwith PWE's control.

If this is real and remains unfixed it might be a good time for everyone to bring back and update their "Game is dead." sigs.

server wipe, bug fixed, all gold credited to gold account, giant - fast acting gold sink added to boutique

Frankie doesn't seem to me a smoothtalker.
He says little , maybe a bit too little.
Well as stated before, he just wants to ease our minds.
Oh only if he would have no other responsibilties, and didnt had to write reports.
PWRD showed a significant boost on the stockmarket in 2010, due to..... firing lots of ppl.
Maybe hire some more people?

Scuzeme - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Frankie doesn't seem to me a smoothtalker.
He says little , maybe a bit too little.
Well as stated before, he just wants to ease our minds.
Oh only if he would have no other responsibilties, and didnt had to write reports.
PWRD showed a significant boost on the stockmarket in 2010, due to..... firing lots of ppl.
Maybe hire some more people?

Hire more people? There stock has fallen from 23$ a share to 13.41 a share in the last month alone...down from a 52 week high of 32$ a share... hire more people.. ya right their stock is down right plummeting lol.

http://www.bing.com/finance/search?q=PWRD&FORM=DTPFSA&qpvt=pwrd

frankieraye wrote: »

Looking into it. My bet is it's accounts getting **** and the hackers are liquidating the items.

I'll see what i can find.

your going to have to do a shade better than "I bet" especially considering your recent lack of truthieness.

a losing bet on your end means, farming is dead, and cash shopping is dead. why work for something or pay for something when it can be duplicated. anyone thinking of spending money on this game after duping is an alternative for acquiring items would be better served by setting their money on fire as a source of heat.

Sure took forever for a thread to be created about this. I made a post regarding this in the Emergency Maintenance when it went up, but for some reason, a thread which was a hot topic became unstickied and got lost in all the random spam, good stuff. We even filed a ticket well before the Emergency Maintenance took place about this entire issue because if left unchecked it means the end for the game. I guess it pretty much is that right now, the people duplicating probably have been doing so for months and are now just getting to the point where they no longer care if it becomes obvious that the items being sold are duplicated.

They've become so arrogant and confident in the fact that PWE won't do anything about it because there are never GMs on anymore anyway, the game is being run by itself without any kind of supervision. I remember 3 years ago you'd randomly get teleported somewhere by a GM if there was even a minor hint that you might be doing something fishy, like grinding in the same spot for 10 hours straight on a miji.

So now there is over 20 billion coins floating around in the economy that shouldn't be there, and that's a very, very low estimate. I'm going to guess it might be the tenfold of that even and there is just nothing they can do anymore, honestly. Dozens of people have bought items because they thought it was a good deal, more have bought and resold, the money got reinvested, turned over and increased over time. The +11/+12 Orbs were taken out for this reason, that was our guess back then and that's what I still believe.

I hope they fix it for the future, but the damage is already done, a certain group of people is sitting on billions of coins and then hundreds of people have made money off the items, been paid out in coins created from sales of those items, etc. Depending on how long it has been going on, it's quite possible that more than 50% of a server has been in contact with coins created through the sale of a duplicated item. Have fun fixing that.

At least double drop is almost over, can go back to logging in only for TW.

Edit: And of course, a topic like this is food for the chums that now get interested in duplicating, google, and end up either: getting ****, finding the actual program, or find nothing. The last scenario being the only decent ending to it.

Scuzeme - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Just google PWI dupe **** forum,
there is even a discussion going on regarding the dupe getting out of hand, and they can't control it. Some 'developers on pwi are discussing it right now and asking for help.
Must be other versions of PWI(so I will not discuss it further)
Still the core codes remains the same.
So i dont really think the same as what Frankie said about hacking....
chance for accounts **** contains LUD?, than those ppl MUST have other valuable stuff too..... Dont hear any rumors about those items sold in bulk or cheap. And why only on those servers....
Big spenders in game have multiple account over different servers...
I am sure it's political right from Frankie to say that, to ease our minds, but we aint no small children.
It might be that the devs in china knew there were ppl dupehacking, and hence the +11 and +12 were pulled out, you can't trace when an orb is consumed I guess.
Also add to the fact that the PWRD stock dropped a bit around the time.
Well anywayz I dont really really mind.
I am here for the fun on a PVE server. I dont PK or do PVP, and I am happy for all those who have far superior gear and weapon over me.

that thread you see discussing said dupe **** was from private servers and their GM's/Developers discussing how it plagued the private server industry who had Perfect World as their games.

This is pretty much a newfound possibility for PWI.

If there is in fact an exploit that's allowing people to dupe this tome and who knows what else, anyone else shocked that HT isn't flooded with these tomes and other high value items yet? I say this because HT seems to have quite a few people that have no problem with exploiting glitches that will give them an advantage and there isn't a single Love: Up and Down in our AH right now.

It seems like something fishy is definitely going on, but I have to wonder if it's a dupe or related to all the **** accounts recently. I would have expected to see a lot more rage from players if that many tomes were actually stolen from accounts recently.

b:puzzled

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

your going to have to do a shade better than "I bet" especially considering your recent lack of truthieness.

a losing bet on your end means, farming is dead, and cash shopping is dead. why work for something or pay for something when it can be duplicated. anyone thinking of spending money on this game after duping is an alternative for acquiring items would be better served by setting their money on fire as a source of heat.

My bet was based on the fact that reports of a dupe exploit have been coming in since I was a tester for PWI. All reports have ultimately been unfounded.


GM's are working on it as we speak.

Ceiba - Sanctuary wrote: »

If this is true, then there is no telling on how many Jade of steady defense have been duped so far, or raptures or cannys, I knew something was wrong when I saw ppl that literally appeared out of nowhere with +12 full 24x JOSD, tose freaking gems are uber expensive, how so many got so many of those... now I know why. I suggest a witch hunt on every single player with anything over 8x JOSD. b:chuckle

im ready for full JoSD but that dont make me or any others a hacker b:chuckle we bought them when they were a mere 33M a pop lol

frankieraye wrote: »

My bet was based on the fact that reports of a dupe exploit have been coming in since I was a tester for PWI. All reports have ultimately been unfounded.


GM's are working on it as we speak.

Thanks for for working on it, would be great though ,if you could update us more frequent.

I'm just waiting for the day I can make Life Everlasting with TT90 Gold Axes.