PvP in Secret Passage is now 100% allowed!

SinMay - Archosaur wrote: »

I dunno if anybody else agrees with me but tbh i like the whole blue name pvp thingy but i hate hearing that a lowbie in my faction got pked 200 times :S
Now heres my suggestion: pk in sp should have a lvl restriction like for example u can only pk toons 5 lvls lower than u or they should make a range just like the one in phoenix valley so whenever a lvl100 tries to atk a lvl30 the atk wont go and he can only atk a lvl95+ and so on and so forth...but who're we talking to its not like our chinese overlords actually read the forums -_-"

I'm sorry if this has been previously suggested but reading 50+ pafes is not my idea of a passtime

I Disagree, cuz if I go in there to help one of my alts or a lowbie and I get pk'd I'd be pissed, cuz I'm not a pk'er. Move the pk to a separate instance away from questing areas, then no one has an excuse for being pk'd if you don't have to be there.

Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

+1 Well said! It's really sad if these Enrage Members have to get their kill counts this way or get their fun killing noobs or 1 shotting them as you said...shows how pretty awesome your gear is all right....NOT...b:shutup

Didn't you hear ..... The "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" joined Enrage to make their camp out more enjoyable b:chuckle

"Who ya gonna call ?" .....

Hmm, you people that are doing so, for or against, need to stop suggesting half-assed patchwork fixes like 'make the quest bosses spawn outside', 'make certain rooms not pk-enabled' or other **** like that.

The only INTELLIGENT and PROPER way to deal with this is to revert sp to what it was before and actually, and INTENTIONALLY, CREATE a whole new dungeon open 24/7, DEDICATED to blue-name PVP. That's what should've been done in the first place. That's how you show the respect you supposedly have for your player base, your consummers, allowing PVE-ers to keep doing their thing AND allowing PVPers to get what they want.

Making a mistake because you're incompetent and then trying to pass it as a 'new feature' is just ridiculous, pathetic and shows just how much respect you have for your players, paying or not paying alike, whom together make this a viable game.


To those who say that voicing out complaints is useless: If we are to believe Shelly, we are being heard on this matter.

When the filter was changed and blocked off part or the whole of people's names, we voiced our complaints and the filter was reverted.

When the DQ price was dropped, we again voiced our complaints and the DQ point system was implemented.

Voicing out your opinions about game changes works.


One last note: Trolls are like Seagulls, if you keep feeding them, they'll just keep rainning **** on your fries...

Davitiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I really hope they could do that. Unfortunately there's an enitre procedure that must be done before the code is changed. PWE and PW-CN must have their own policies on when to do regular maintenance and when to do an emergency maintenance. Emergency maints are probably exclusive to game/company breaking situations like the Duke Rose a long time ago.

It would be nice if Frankie or any other GM could explain to us the process that goes inside the company when they decide to make changes in the game so we have a clearer idea on how everything works instead of expecting devs to magically solve everything. Although, I'm not sure they can divulge that information to the general public.

b:surrender

So ONE nerd programmer blunders a patch in what we were told would be an ACCESS to a new arena/instance for PVP and now we are suppose to believe it will take months or years for them to follow red tape procedures to get it fixed. Maybe PWE deserves to lose a huge chunk of their player base. The was a pure and simple BLUNDER on the part of the company and now they are scrambling to figure out how to fix it. We sure hope they fix it before the customer bleed away from the game gets any worse cause as of right now I know a large base which is NOT going to buy Zen and is NOT playing till its fixed. Most of those people are heavy recruiters to get NEW players to join the game. Think its QQ or whatever but its fact. The player base that will be joining are the childish hackers from other well known MMO games wanting to find ways to exploit the game further and we will start seeing more and more web site based players trying to sell you junk.

Way to go PWC!

Seriously, though.
While we wait for our adorable PWC to fix this mess, why don't you just replace the rule of "PK blue names = ban"?

That way, the losers that "OH SO LOVE!!!" to kill random and innocent LOW LEVELED questers would refrain from targeting them.

It would make the whole situation LESS frustrating for a lot of people.


Or do I have to come over there in california (is that right?) ALL THE WAY FROM ITALY to beg you while kneeling in front of you?

***NEWSFLAAAASH****

LVL 105 gooner R9 just one-shot a lvl 29 bluenamed player in SP

What an acomplishment, ladies and gentlemen...


In the backstage PWI staff aplaudes b:chuckle

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).

The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.

Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;

Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.

Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.

If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.

There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.

My hat's off to you Shelly, for this post. I must say I didn't expect a mod to post this kind of opinion.

I trully hope it doesn't come to afect your Mod position.

This being said, I feel that lvl 100

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).

The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.

Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;

Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.

Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.

If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.

There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.

Here is my temporary solution, CaoticShelly.

Ban/warning on all who PK the innocent bluenamed questers.

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sanputa wrote: »

I mean if there is a battle going on and you dont' want to get involved .. why not just fly over ?

because that gets you stunned and killed by whichever flying stealthed 'sin happens to be closest.

sanputa wrote: »

I mean if there is a battle going on and you dont' want to get involved .. why not just fly over ? i see all the blue names on my server just fly over ... wow that was easy b:chuckle

Please visit HT and come back to tell us how well that worked out for you!

Hell, I have seen a couple of people offering newbies cash so they can use the stone and avoid being harassed by the cowards camping in there. That's how bad it is. Most of the people in there couldn't care less about your level or the fact you want to complete your quests. The world revolves around them. They know that they are upsetting people and that's exactly why they are in there.

Oh a little FYI to those that have been contacting support... it's probably pointless. One of my friends sent several reports since the patch and was told that no rules were broken. The tickets were filed when we were told that PKing was okay as long the lowbies weren't killed. My friend's lowbies were killed on a few occasions. Reports were filed. The reports got canned responses about nobody breaking any rules and were closed. The bullies are winning! What the hell? What sort of message is PWI trying to send?

b:beatenup

I think you're right! b:chuckle

Nakairu - Archosaur wrote: »

so frankieraye, are you, or another GM, going to offer free escorts through SP while lowbies do their quests?

cause my cleric on Sanctuary just hit 31, and he needs quests in SP.

Of course not, that is like asking if they are going to fix the entrance to the cube glitch. Was easier to just tell ppl they can't do it, then to actually fix it.

FatalFem - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Of course not, that is like asking if they are going to fix the entrance to the cube glitch. Was easier to just tell ppl they can't do it, then to actually fix it.

Yeah, I know....fat chance in hell, right? *sigh* wishful thinking. I guess I won't be able to do my token of the seven quest, or my OHT culti.

VioletHeals - Momaganon wrote: »

frankieraye doesnt do any actual work

At most he will say he will look into something. Then a few weeks later either hope everyone forgot or make up an excuse saying it cant be done while trying to make some kinda statement that sometime in the future they will add something to the game that everyone will be excited about and then a few weeks later make some horrible change that make more people complain about him doing an awful job.

You've been playing here for awhile? Or did you figure that out in your first week of playing? Cause you nailed that one right on the head!

SinMay - Archosaur wrote: »

I dunno if anybody else agrees with me but tbh i like the whole blue name pvp thingy but i hate hearing that a lowbie in my faction got pked 200 times :S
Now heres my suggestion: pk in sp should have a lvl restriction like for example u can only pk toons 5 lvls lower than u or they should make a range just like the one in phoenix valley so whenever a lvl100 tries to atk a lvl30 the atk wont go and he can only atk a lvl95+ and so on and so forth...but who're we talking to its not like our chinese overlords actually read the forums -_-"

I'm sorry if this has been previously suggested but reading 50+ pages is not my idea of a passtime

A level cap will just prevent the high levels from coming in to help the lowbies, and level 70's all get the Silver Frost quest. It might cut down the pk some, but wouldn't solve the underlying problem. Thanks for coming up with ideas though, and keep thinking you might have a great one that fixes all of this that Frankie would get behind. b:thanks