PvP in Secret Passage is now 100% allowed!
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At this point, I'm almost tempted to level up a character on each server just to try to run interference for some of the lower levels to be able to quest in Secret Passage.
I refuse to be on the side of encouraging players to not quest and instead use FC to level up. I remember when the game was most fun, and it certainly is not that now. Everyone is too worried about leveling as fast as possible, to get to "endgame" (Level 101, Rank 8/9), so they can then log on for TW and complain about the lack of content.0 -
We're already too late to stop people powerlevelling or skipping quests.
Lets just keep the PvP enabled plox, its fun.0 -
At this point, I'm almost tempted to level up a character on each server just to try to run interference for some of the lower levels to be able to quest in Secret Passage.
I refuse to be on the side of encouraging players to not quest and instead use FC to level up. I remember when the game was most fun, and it certainly is not that now. Everyone is too worried about leveling as fast as possible, to get to "endgame" (Level 101, Rank 8/9), so they can then log on for TW and complain about the lack of content.
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THIS b:laugh0 -
Love the pk enabled SP. Great Idea. Lots of fun0
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VenoMKII - Harshlands wrote: »We're already too late to stop people powerlevelling or skipping quests.
Lets just keep the PvP enabled plox, its fun.
That appears, from this thread and others, to be a matter of opinion.b:shutup0 -
VenoMKII - Harshlands wrote: »We're already too late to stop people powerlevelling or skipping quests.
Lets just keep the PvP enabled plox, its fun.
Fun for you and screws tons of others. What's so wrong about putting a hold on it for a few weeks and throwing it into an arena or the Cave of Sadistic Glee?0 -
+1000At this point, I'm almost tempted to level up a character on each server just to try to run interference for some of the lower levels to be able to quest in Secret Passage.
I refuse to be on the side of encouraging players to not quest and instead use FC to level up. I remember when the game was most fun, and it certainly is not that now. Everyone is too worried about leveling as fast as possible, to get to "endgame" (Level 101, Rank 8/9), so they can then log on for TW and complain about the lack of content.
I don't know how long it's gonna take these people to understand this. The content is pre-endgame. You have no excuse for powerleveling past the meat of the game just so you can claim "I'M BORED LOL" and somehow use that as a rationalization for ganking newbies.
It shouldn't be allowed in SP, it shouldn't be allowed in cube, it shouldn't be allowed in any civilized society. Unmitigated jerkdom is shunned, not indulged (at least, not overtly like this).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Yes, I'm still a stubborn holdout in favor of the old game. Haters gonna hate. ;]
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Queenofpower - Dreamweaver wrote: »Love the pk enabled SP. Great Idea. Lots of fun
Lots of fun to be the pk'er, not so fun to be the pk'bait!
I don't care much on PVP servers, it's open world pvp and people should expect to get ganked. However on the PVE servers people(specifically high level factions) are camping in SP. That is something that will continue to happen in a map that doesn't have open world PVP, as it's one of the only places to gank. b:angry0 -
At this point, I'm almost tempted to level up a character on each server just to try to run interference for some of the lower levels to be able to quest in Secret Passage.
I refuse to be on the side of encouraging players to not quest and instead use FC to level up. I remember when the game was most fun, and it certainly is not that now. Everyone is too worried about leveling as fast as possible, to get to "endgame" (Level 101, Rank 8/9), so they can then log on for TW and complain about the lack of content.
You, Sir, deserve my dearest respects b:victory
And really right now in this messed up game (mostly because of people's thinkings), very very few get it (I have enough fingers to count all those I really respect now)
And to see a mod notice EXACTLY what's going on up to the same words I would have used myself makes me smile.
I know it's not on topic, but I would like to ask you something about a situation i'm facing.
I will let names out.
-- In game wife/real life gf has a friend in game, let's call him/her "X" (The friend)
-- "X" comes to help me and my wife for her veno's fb (I am on my tank, my wife DUAL logs her cleric and her veno)
--But "X", TRIPLE logs, to bring 2 clerics and a seeker that needed bh. Ain't that against the rules ?
-- I also see "X" TRIPLE log in cube, to be able to kill himself (herself) if reaches a pk room to save do alls
And I tell my wife about it, that tells me "If no one tells about "X", nothing can be done, and we shoudn't , he (she) is our friend and comes to help us"
Edited : And I have problem still farming a damn Lunar Cape, cause no one helps me out ? All my friends i "had" ended up gooning or putting cash in so they coudn't care less about the little BM that is still 2.86 sparked and can't get squad to go 3-x to risk gold mats he needs or barely can get into Nirvana to make a bit of cash in 2x ? "Learn to merchant ?" I have a average cash flow of 1 mil per day, of course I can buy a lot of stuff cheap and sell high, right ? Then those "friends" tell me they will help for delta so I can finally get map 2 (and eventually map 3 opened) but they will help AFTER 2x ? Sorry , I know, map 3 is where the cash is, and would be perfect during 2x, I just feel freakign left out..
/whining
So what I do in that case ? I just shut the hell up and do as I don't see anything and then see that person go "OMG i'm so pro, i didnT, put cash in and I got R* and +10" Well sorry, if someone TRIPLE logs a seeker and 2 clerics, tell me what you can't farm ?
Back on topic
There's a poll going on and results are shaping up.. Let's see where that goes..Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle0 -
At this point, I'm almost tempted to level up a character on each server just to try to run interference for some of the lower levels to be able to quest in Secret Passage.
I refuse to be on the side of encouraging players to not quest and instead use FC to level up. I remember when the game was most fun, and it certainly is not that now. Everyone is too worried about leveling as fast as possible, to get to "endgame" (Level 101, Rank 8/9), so they can then log on for TW and complain about the lack of content.
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This is seriously making me wonder of the lack of knowledge the higher ups have......[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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frankieraye wrote: »Hey all,
3. Those who need to enter the Hall of Deception instance can use the various Illusion Stones in Archosaur (one is at 529,664).
So please let me know if you have any questions, and I'd like to mention a special thank you to KrittyCat who worked really hard to talk with and help players during this most interesting situation.
and are you going to make tele from the stone free for the low levels?Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »1. Why not use the arenas so all aren't forced into this and harrassed when they try to help others.
2. How are my alts supposed to ever finish level 100 spiritual cultivation without killing Silver Frost? Answer that please.
3. Except those with the weapon token quest, as they are too low to teleport in.
Flawed reasoning.
because i don't see it fair for the low levels to spend all their money on tele just because they are low levels and can't be safe while going to their boss
i really got no idea how hard it is to open the arena.. or atleast make a room int he cubi for the pk or something =/0 -
Any chance we can get an official response to this Frankie?
It's 2 days and we're almost up to 900 posts.
How 'bout some kind of official word on this, even if it's just a this is how many days till I expect a response from China? b:thanks0 -
At this point, I'm almost tempted to level up a character on each server just to try to run interference for some of the lower levels to be able to quest in Secret Passage.
I refuse to be on the side of encouraging players to not quest and instead use FC to level up. I remember when the game was most fun, and it certainly is not that now. Everyone is too worried about leveling as fast as possible, to get to "endgame" (Level 101, Rank 8/9), so they can then log on for TW and complain about the lack of content.
Nicely said.
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VenoMKII - Harshlands wrote: »We're already too late to stop people powerlevelling or skipping quests.
Lets just keep the PvP enabled plox, its fun.
Maybe its justme, because I'm a PvE Carebear, but where is the fun in killing lowbies? b:puzzledand are you going to make tele from the stone free for the low levels?
because i don't see it fair for the low levels to spend all their money on tele just because they are low levels and can't be safe while going to their boss
i really got no idea how hard it is to open the arena.. or atleast make a room int he cubi for the pk or something =/
Wasn't there an Arena in the Cube?0 -
Neyda - Raging Tide wrote: »Maybe its justme, because I'm a PvE Carebear, but where is the fun in killing lowbies? b:puzzled
Wasn't there an Arena in the Cube?
There is a sort of Arena. It has an access from the Cube and from each of the major cities. As far as I can tell, it's open, too. I just don't think it is running correctly, or at least not to its fullest potential.0 -
There is a sort of Arena. It has an access from the Cube and from each of the major cities. As far as I can tell, it's open, too. I just don't think it is running correctly, or at least not to its fullest potential.
reminds me of.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px0c4Tgg6gg and we all know how that turned out!0 -
There is a sort of Arena. It has an access from the Cube and from each of the major cities. As far as I can tell, it's open, too. I just don't think it is running correctly, or at least not to its fullest potential.
So they didn't fix the area or update it? Would have been much better to offer rather then this "convenient" glitch that happen.
Not that's it probably my place to say, but when your trying to save time and money this is not the way go about it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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There is a sort of Arena. It has an access from the Cube and from each of the major cities. As far as I can tell, it's open, too. I just don't think it is running correctly, or at least not to its fullest potential.
ooh! ooh! i know what's wrong with it!
level-105 rank-9 goonies can't kill lowbie bluename questers in that one, that's why nobody uses it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.0 -
Daedallus - Sanctuary wrote: »My hat's off to you Shelly, for this post. I must say I didn't expect a mod to post this kind of opinion.
I trully hope it doesn't come to afect your Mod position.
This being said, I feel that lvl 100Selak - Dreamweaver wrote: »I agree thank you for your reply.FerClaw - Heavens Tear wrote: »Here is my temporary solution, CaoticShelly.
Ban/warning on all who PK the innocent bluenamed questers.
Thanks, and the mods are a part of the community, we will point out what we can. I'm quoting my post again to make sure it's seen by the rest of the forum community.ChaoticShelly wrote: »A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).
The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.
Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;
Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.
Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.
If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.
There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.
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Yesterday I had to run interference for 3 different chars that asked for my help when they saw I was a high lvl cleric. The first was a 40th lvl char that need the pendant quest and shade eido for the body quest then bh29. He was killed 2xs before even making it out of the room. I went in with him.. Announced even that a low lvl was trying to get thru for his quest and while he got thru safely with my escort.. the Vindi's in there were making sure their PK count went up against low lvl chars... I did get killed. When I said something to them about we were trying to get thru they were so what who cares.. no one is gonna do anything to us. That is griefing when you prevent someone from doing there quests.
Then the second char that askled for help never went out of the safe zone cause her party kept getting killed and gave up. I got her thru safely and 2nd time we used illusion stone. It used ALL her money.. plus.. as I said in my earlier post.. when you tele into an instance you are sort of standing in the doorway for a sec or 2 so the mobs attack you. She got in.. but with only an inch of life left. Thank Goodness Im a cleric and healed her. The 3rd time there was a sin in Orchid that asked for help.. by then the pk activity was less and certain people in there were more respectful of the fact low lvls needed to quest.
My point being that i dont give 2 shytes what China does.. WE AINT CHINA.. And Frankie.. I dont know where you and any other GM or whatever have been.. But you ABSOLUTELY need things in SP for culti and continuance of several quests. The wheel of earth, shade eido, sungs remains, the pendant, dismal shade...etc.. etc.. etc.. NONE of these things are outside.. To say to the low lvls awww F. U. dont do your quests too bad so sad is deplorable.... To expect them to use there money to get into an instance cause you cant or wont control pking in SP is deplorable... There are SEVERAL place pople who pk can go.. West, Silver Pool.. Hey.. hows this a PK server..... gee what a concept.
You need a referee in there to make sure the pkers arent griefing the low lvls.. Its rather sad that the high lvls feel the need to pk the low lvls anyway.. aww you so strong and big bad.. killing level 30 at lvl 100... Just to get your kill count up.
Its also rather sad that low levels need to ask or get help from high levels.. not to do the quests.. but for protection to just get in and do the quests in the first place..0 -
I return to this game to see the devs more drunk than ever. What, are they too friggen lazy to make a new instance for this instead of forcing harassment on innocent players? You devs get a lot of money off this game right? Well go buy a friggen brain.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Tagi - Dreamweaver wrote: »I return to this game to see the devs more drunk than ever. What, are they too friggen lazy to make a new instance for this instead of forcing harassment on innocent players? You devs get a lot of money off this game right? Well go buy a friggen brain.
They run out of money on all the booze. b:chuckle And the repeatedly reskinned horses, foxes and hellhounds should give you an idea of the hard effort the devs put forth.0 -
At this point, I'm almost tempted to level up a character on each server just to try to run interference for some of the lower levels to be able to quest in Secret Passage.
I refuse to be on the side of encouraging players to not quest and instead use FC to level up. I remember when the game was most fun, and it certainly is not that now. Everyone is too worried about leveling as fast as possible, to get to "endgame" (Level 101, Rank 8/9), so they can then log on for TW and complain about the lack of content.
Ya also forgot the fact that most the POWER lev FAIL BABIE's got **** for skill levels and pretty much no Idea how to use the characters they lev'd like that! b:laugh
Mind you, I said most but not all, I have found a couple who know, how not too constantly screwup & cause Mulitple SQUADwipes in Instances but only a couple..b:cry the rest should have a Official listing posted on them as TOXIC/DAMAGED GOODs/BIO-HAZARDs who die in BH/FB39s even with +8 DEICIDES...ROFL..b:laughNow that run was funny.. LMAO
BTW: as Mod's, do ya think they're ever gonna bringback GRANDMA WOLFKIN Into the PWi servers b:cry I remember her from just PW and I wanna give my VENO on PWi her as a pet here..~,~'..b:surrender0 -
Ok, it's been 48 hours, since this post came out. We're up to almost 900 posts, the 2 polls are both over 100 players(one was almost up to 400 last i looked) and there have been a few more threads popping up. How 'bout some kind of official response to all the QQ Frankie?!?!?
Also if you haven't done so yet, please vote you oppose the pvp in SP on the poll under general discussion, and vote to move the PK zone to the Cave of Sadistic Glee in the poll under the Suggestion Box. b:thanks0 -
Pk in the Sp wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a pk free for all. People not in pk mode and those under lvl 30 should not be able to be pked. Personally I have no problem with the devs bringing back PK in SP but it should only be for people who want to PK.
A new player doing FB29 for the first time isn't going to use the stones in Arch, half the time they don't know about them till someone else tells them. And them getting PKed by jerks 50-70 lvls above them is going to make PWE lose a lot of new players which it needs to keep the game alive cause old ones are leaving in droves because of stupid **** like this.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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If your a low lvl or a low lvl alt whose high lvl friends arent on and dont want to be bothered with pker's.. IF I am on and you see me I'll be glad to help. 101 cleric with demon rez and demon heal. If we dont make it thru SP (chances are Ill get killed not you.. hopefully) I will pay for the illusion stone.. rez and heal you when the tombstones kills you while waiting to finish the tele in, then i can leave the party or finish it for you. And I expect nothing in return. Yes.. Ill spend my mp, hp and coin to make sure that a low lvl can get his/her quests done. I can also tank 39 and 59. 51 still gives me problems...0
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Anyone who is into computers and regional coding knows that when you change a region the Windows based operating system uses many different codes. IE: Japanese Uni-code etc...
This is why many games bought from a different region will not work in our computers. They have to make sure the coding is compatable with the region they expect it to be used in.
So if anyone tries to say that we simply use the China coding without having it translated into for instance Western Uni-Code betteer look into coding.
Simply put did the English / UK servers have to have the same codeline added to our update that created this issue vs just leaving the original code that governs SP in place.
No as updates only make changes where the code is forced to change.
Please no more script based responses as to what happened and why. Tell us the truth we do deserve that much.0 -
Boots_Elf - Sanctuary wrote: »If your a low lvl or a low lvl alt whose high lvl friends arent on and dont want to be bothered with pker's.. IF I am on and you see me I'll be glad to help. 101 cleric with demon rez and demon heal. If we dont make it thru SP (chances are Ill get killed not you.. hopefully) I will pay for the illusion stone.. rez and heal you when the tombstones kills you while waiting to finish the tele in, then i can leave the party or finish it for you. And I expect nothing in return. Yes.. Ill spend my mp, hp and coin to make sure that a low lvl can get his/her quests done. I can also tank 39 and 59. 51 still gives me problems...
A very kind and helpful response, but I think it will just encourage PW to say "see it's ok, other people are doing our job for us." b:thanks0 -
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ChaoticShelly wrote: »A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).
The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.
Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;
Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.
Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.
If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.
There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.
This times a million. There was no good reason for the rule change. PK has always been possible for 30+ on a PvP server and people were using it as a way to harass others and that's why the rule was made on the first place. Just because you can do it on PvE servers too now and the harassment is even made easier because it's drop/shatter free doesn't mean the rule should be reversed. Why even have the rule in the first place if it's only valid when it's not even really all that possible on the majority of the servers? When you couldn't kill blue names on a PvE server (the majority of the servers) you banned PK in there even though the only people who could be killed were the people who switched to PK mode because they were looking for a fight. Now that it's actually possible to kill people who aren't looking for one, it's allowed? What kind of sense does that make? I understand perfectly well there are plenty of people on there having good, clean, legitimate fun and not harassing lowbies in anyway. But creating a hostile environment for new players shouldn't be the official policy, especially since it says they won't be touched until level 30 right IN THE USER INTERFACE.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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