PvP in Secret Passage is now 100% allowed!
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SinMay - Archosaur wrote: »I dunno if anybody else agrees with me but tbh i like the whole blue name pvp thingy but i hate hearing that a lowbie in my faction got pked 200 times :S
Now heres my suggestion: pk in sp should have a lvl restriction like for example u can only pk toons 5 lvls lower than u or they should make a range just like the one in phoenix valley so whenever a lvl100 tries to atk a lvl30 the atk wont go and he can only atk a lvl95+ and so on and so forth...but who're we talking to its not like our chinese overlords actually read the forums -_-"
I'm sorry if this has been previously suggested but reading 50+ pafes is not my idea of a passtime
I Disagree, cuz if I go in there to help one of my alts or a lowbie and I get pk'd I'd be pissed, cuz I'm not a pk'er. Move the pk to a separate instance away from questing areas, then no one has an excuse for being pk'd if you don't have to be there."Care Bear" b:chuckle
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PvP sucks... i was on a PvE server because of that!0
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Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »+1 Well said! It's really sad if these Enrage Members have to get their kill counts this way or get their fun killing noobs or 1 shotting them as you said...shows how pretty awesome your gear is all right....NOT...b:shutup
Didn't you hear ..... The "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" joined Enrage to make their camp out more enjoyable b:chuckle
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Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »+1 Fully Supported, but I stills say make a new instance away from questing areas...also I think its 5k coins not, 6k b:victory
It is 6k to go from Hidden Orchid to Hall of Deception (1k to Arch, 5k to HoD).b:victory
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Hmm, you people that are doing so, for or against, need to stop suggesting half-assed patchwork fixes like 'make the quest bosses spawn outside', 'make certain rooms not pk-enabled' or other **** like that.
The only INTELLIGENT and PROPER way to deal with this is to revert sp to what it was before and actually, and INTENTIONALLY, CREATE a whole new dungeon open 24/7, DEDICATED to blue-name PVP. That's what should've been done in the first place. That's how you show the respect you supposedly have for your player base, your consummers, allowing PVE-ers to keep doing their thing AND allowing PVPers to get what they want.
Making a mistake because you're incompetent and then trying to pass it as a 'new feature' is just ridiculous, pathetic and shows just how much respect you have for your players, paying or not paying alike, whom together make this a viable game.
To those who say that voicing out complaints is useless: If we are to believe Shelly, we are being heard on this matter.
When the filter was changed and blocked off part or the whole of people's names, we voiced our complaints and the filter was reverted.
When the DQ price was dropped, we again voiced our complaints and the DQ point system was implemented.
Voicing out your opinions about game changes works.
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »but by the time you do Silverfrost, the only necessary quest in there, you want a party of people anyway. I sure hope someone in that party knows someone in a big TW fac who knows others who like to PK.
what gives you the right to decide which quest is necessary and which isn't?
it depends on the point of view... is cultivation/silver frost really required?
for some people it is an requirement doing quests for exp, sp, coins, or other rewards, so let them do it and stop talking about required and not required!0 -
Davitiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »I really hope they could do that. Unfortunately there's an enitre procedure that must be done before the code is changed. PWE and PW-CN must have their own policies on when to do regular maintenance and when to do an emergency maintenance. Emergency maints are probably exclusive to game/company breaking situations like the Duke Rose a long time ago.
It would be nice if Frankie or any other GM could explain to us the process that goes inside the company when they decide to make changes in the game so we have a clearer idea on how everything works instead of expecting devs to magically solve everything. Although, I'm not sure they can divulge that information to the general public.
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So ONE nerd programmer blunders a patch in what we were told would be an ACCESS to a new arena/instance for PVP and now we are suppose to believe it will take months or years for them to follow red tape procedures to get it fixed. Maybe PWE deserves to lose a huge chunk of their player base. The was a pure and simple BLUNDER on the part of the company and now they are scrambling to figure out how to fix it. We sure hope they fix it before the customer bleed away from the game gets any worse cause as of right now I know a large base which is NOT going to buy Zen and is NOT playing till its fixed. Most of those people are heavy recruiters to get NEW players to join the game. Think its QQ or whatever but its fact. The player base that will be joining are the childish hackers from other well known MMO games wanting to find ways to exploit the game further and we will start seeing more and more web site based players trying to sell you junk.
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Bosk - Sanctuary wrote: »It is 6k to go from Hidden Orchid to Hall of Deception (1k to Arch, 5k to HoD).
and then chances are decent you'll respawn in orchid temple again after getting caught in the vortex of some pvp seeker camping the teleport room in the secret passage for the lulz. gg, insert another 6k coin to try again...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.0 -
Seriously, though.
While we wait for our adorable PWC to fix this mess, why don't you just replace the rule of "PK blue names = ban"?
That way, the losers that "OH SO LOVE!!!" to kill random and innocent LOW LEVELED questers would refrain from targeting them.
It would make the whole situation LESS frustrating for a lot of people.
Or do I have to come over there in california (is that right?) ALL THE WAY FROM ITALY to beg you while kneeling in front of you?0 -
uhhhhhhh duuuhhhh uhhhhhhh duuuuhhhhhh why not just make the cave of sadistic glee the 100% pk area of choice?Rarely any low lvl players go there and most are in the late 70's mid80's. sp makes no sense and low lvls getting clobbered in the fray is really 100% dumb as hell...hmmmmm would you let your kid walk through abusy interstate..no...thats what sp is...just make astinking stone teleport to glee..case closed.I luv my luvsalotb:dirty
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***NEWSFLAAAASH****
LVL 105 gooner R9 just one-shot a lvl 29 bluenamed player in SP
What an acomplishment, ladies and gentlemen...
In the backstage PWI staff aplaudes b:chuckle0 -
A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).
The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.
Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;
Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.
Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.
If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.
There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.
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ChaoticShelly wrote: »A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).
The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.
Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;
Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.
Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.
If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.
There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.
My hat's off to you Shelly, for this post. I must say I didn't expect a mod to post this kind of opinion.
I trully hope it doesn't come to afect your Mod position.
This being said, I feel that lvl 1000 -
ChaoticShelly wrote: »A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).
The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.
Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;
Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.
Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.
If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.
There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.
I agree thank you for your reply.There are old Warriors, and bold Warriors,
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Here is my temporary solution, CaoticShelly.ChaoticShelly wrote: »A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).
The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.
Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;
Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.
Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.
If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.
There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.
Ban/warning on all who PK the innocent bluenamed questers.0 -
Daedallus - Sanctuary wrote: »My hat's off to you Shelly, for this post. I must say I didn't expect a mod to post this kind of opinion.
I trully hope it doesn't come to afect your Mod position.
Rest assure, it won't. PWE appreciates it when we voice our opinion in a mature manner (community and mods [who are part of the community as well] alike) and I have done so in the past multiple times with no problem.
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In Heaven's Tear, things aren't like that.b:dirty I love this Free pvp zone in Secret passage. I finally have a place where i can pvp my friends and faction even without having to worry about rank 9's coming and stealing my gear because i'm red name .. without having to worry about various parts of my equipment being instantly shattered. This is the most fun i've had in pwi forever.
I mean if there is a battle going on and you dont' want to get involved .. why not just fly over ? i see all the blue names on my server just fly over ... wow that was easy b:chuckle
We have campers that only wait for the low levels. I have a 42 veno, and every time I tried to get inside, by either running or flying, I got killed by someone.
And while I was in the save zone waiting to see what was happening I clearly remember reading on the chat someone say "Stop killing noobs" to someone else. and this someone else replied with a LOL.
I don't think that's a good way to treat someone that you don't even know that's just passing through.
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I mean if there is a battle going on and you dont' want to get involved .. why not just fly over ?
because that gets you stunned and killed by whichever flying stealthed 'sin happens to be closest.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.0 -
ChaoticShelly wrote: »A thought crossed my mind earlier - it's true that our version mirrors the Chinese game, but that's the only similarities between the two versions. We play a different game than the Chinese community does. We have a different style, packs are much more valuable here, and the community here is much more intimate (cliquey, if you wish).
The Chinese team cannot and should not ignore that Western gamers plays games in a different manner than Asian games do. What fits their gaming style doesn't necessarily suits ours, even the policies between the two versions differ.
Frankie has mentioned that our version mirrors theirs, however;
Players are forbidden from editing*.ini files to alter their characters appearance - However it's allowed (and somewhat encouraged) at PWC.
Another example is that account selling is not allowed, but is on PWC.
If their version allows Free PK in SP - our version certainly doesn't have to as the policies above state.
There definitely needs to be a temporary solution until a permanent one is implanted into the game (i.e. a specific, stand alone Free PK instance) - that solution should probably be to not allow Free PK in SP at the time being - even if PWC has made it so it's possible, and allowed over there.
As well, we got the Dragon Point system as compensation for a change that didn't suit our gameplay as it did the other version. That right there tells me it is possible for them to change our version to what fits this game's style of players.
That said, I do believe the arenas should be reopened as has been suggested multiple times (or some other stand alone instance, as you said). The idea of a free PK zone is a good one but should not be forced upon all players. But I agree with you that in the interim, they still need to change what SP has become now.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I mean if there is a battle going on and you dont' want to get involved .. why not just fly over ? i see all the blue names on my server just fly over ... wow that was easy b:chuckle
Please visit HT and come back to tell us how well that worked out for you!
Hell, I have seen a couple of people offering newbies cash so they can use the stone and avoid being harassed by the cowards camping in there. That's how bad it is. Most of the people in there couldn't care less about your level or the fact you want to complete your quests. The world revolves around them. They know that they are upsetting people and that's exactly why they are in there.
Oh a little FYI to those that have been contacting support... it's probably pointless. One of my friends sent several reports since the patch and was told that no rules were broken. The tickets were filed when we were told that PKing was okay as long the lowbies weren't killed. My friend's lowbies were killed on a few occasions. Reports were filed. The reports got canned responses about nobody breaking any rules and were closed. The bullies are winning! What the hell? What sort of message is PWI trying to send?
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Foxy_Fiona - Heavens Tear wrote: »Please visit HT and come back to tell us how well that worked out for you!
Hell, I have seen a couple of people offering newbies cash so they can use the stone and avoid being harassed by the cowards camping in there. That's how bad it is. Most of the people in there couldn't care less about your level or the fact you want to complete your quests. The world revolves around them. They know that they are upsetting people and that's exactly why they are in there.
Oh a little FYI to those that have been contacting support... it's probably pointless. One of my friends sent several reports since the patch and was told that no rules were broken. The tickets were filed when we were told that PKing was okay as long the lowbies weren't killed. My friend's lowbies were killed on a few occasions. Reports were filed. The reports got canned responses about nobody breaking any rules and were closed. The bullies are winning! What the hell? What sort of message is PWI trying to send?
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Please allow me to answer this for you:
Buy more zen
Pay those who are cash shoppers anyways to help you pwr lvl
Buy more zen
Don't bother questing or actually enjoying the game, all we care about is your money
Buy more zen
Don't complain, we've made this game to cater to those who cash shop most
Buy more zen
Stop whining, you don't need to do quests. Who actually "plays" this game anymore anyways in that regard
Buy more zen
If you don't want to be killed...
Buy more zen
If you complain, we will act like we listen; but we really don't care because we are still making money
Buy more zen
If you threaten to leave, we still don't care because our reports indicate this hasn't had an effect on the amount of money we are making...
Buy more zen
The r9 people playing who have cash shopped most, all wanted this so their e peens could get bigger..
Buy more zen
I hope this sums it up for you, but just incase you missed the most valid point I made.. BUY MORE ZEN0 -
I think you're right! b:chuckle0
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so frankieraye, are you, or another GM, going to offer free escorts through SP while lowbies do their quests?
cause my cleric on Sanctuary just hit 31, and he needs quests in SP.0 -
Nakairu - Archosaur wrote: »so frankieraye, are you, or another GM, going to offer free escorts through SP while lowbies do their quests?
cause my cleric on Sanctuary just hit 31, and he needs quests in SP.
Of course not, that is like asking if they are going to fix the entrance to the cube glitch. Was easier to just tell ppl they can't do it, then to actually fix it.0 -
frankieraye doesnt do any actual work
At most he will say he will look into something. Then a few weeks later either hope everyone forgot or make up an excuse saying it cant be done while trying to make some kinda statement that sometime in the future they will add something to the game that everyone will be excited about and then a few weeks later make some horrible change that make more people complain about him doing an awful job.0 -
FatalFem - Heavens Tear wrote: »Of course not, that is like asking if they are going to fix the entrance to the cube glitch. Was easier to just tell ppl they can't do it, then to actually fix it.
Yeah, I know....fat chance in hell, right? *sigh* wishful thinking. I guess I won't be able to do my token of the seven quest, or my OHT culti.VioletHeals - Momaganon wrote: »frankieraye doesnt do any actual work
At most he will say he will look into something. Then a few weeks later either hope everyone forgot or make up an excuse saying it cant be done while trying to make some kinda statement that sometime in the future they will add something to the game that everyone will be excited about and then a few weeks later make some horrible change that make more people complain about him doing an awful job.
You've been playing here for awhile? Or did you figure that out in your first week of playing? Cause you nailed that one right on the head!0 -
+1 to ChaoticShelly
I'm playing on a PvE server, blue named, that means I do not want to PK in any way but I'm forced to - not funny
btw did they fix the teleporting into FB 29 without being killed by mobs near the entrance? I didn't play for a while0 -
SinMay - Archosaur wrote: »I dunno if anybody else agrees with me but tbh i like the whole blue name pvp thingy but i hate hearing that a lowbie in my faction got pked 200 times :S
Now heres my suggestion: pk in sp should have a lvl restriction like for example u can only pk toons 5 lvls lower than u or they should make a range just like the one in phoenix valley so whenever a lvl100 tries to atk a lvl30 the atk wont go and he can only atk a lvl95+ and so on and so forth...but who're we talking to its not like our chinese overlords actually read the forums -_-"
I'm sorry if this has been previously suggested but reading 50+ pages is not my idea of a passtime
A level cap will just prevent the high levels from coming in to help the lowbies, and level 70's all get the Silver Frost quest. It might cut down the pk some, but wouldn't solve the underlying problem. Thanks for coming up with ideas though, and keep thinking you might have a great one that fixes all of this that Frankie would get behind. b:thanks0 -
Caleon - Dreamweaver wrote: »+1 to ChaoticShelly
I'm playing on a PvE server, blue named, that means I do not want to PK in any way but I'm forced to - not funny
btw did they fix the teleporting into FB 29 without being killed by mobs near the entrance? I didn't play for a while
Not as far as I know, but maybe someone else know's for sure. Also if you don't like the change please go vote on the 2 polls on the forums. One is under General Discussion and the other is under the Suggestion Box.b:thanks0
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