Some DQ System Changes (items added/removed)

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  • Sifu_MohTofu - Sanctuary
    Sifu_MohTofu - Sanctuary Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    but you should fix the problem of duplicating the medals instead of removing them. i'm out there farming my *** off everyday to try and get rank 9 and now you just make my costs even more unbearable. now there's an even bigger gap between gears because its gonna take some people a longer time to get R9.
  • BLcKLiGhT - Heavens Tear
    BLcKLiGhT - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    WTB> use Chest of coins, how about splitting the worth of them in half, and allowing it as a 1 click open use, instead of **** the people farming for it, give a notice, most games do something like instead of, "well its gone now to bad"
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    the Right Way To Fix This Is As Follows:

    set All Medals Of Glory To Untradeable

    Truth
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    LOL @ nerdrage
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    Bloyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Truth

    Very truth
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  • nakhtuul
    nakhtuul Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    1) QQ @ people QQ'ing about R9 being unobtainable.

    Before rep sale, R8 was a fantasy many of us dreamed about. So stop yer whinin' about how hard it will be to get R9.

    2) I was hoping you were adding things to the list, not taking them away. But meh. Whatever.

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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    and i fail to understand the reasoning how making a worthless item such as chest of cube more easily obtainable will make it any less worthless..

    I guess u failed to understand we can npc the coins FOR DQ points now, not the other way around.
  • TOtOty - Heavens Tear
    TOtOty - Heavens Tear Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Alasen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow really???? Do you people not actually log in the game and look at **** before you do things? People sell the 35 pt DQ items for like 12k........ you can get 150 DQ points for like 50k....... and your'e trying to give it to us for 100k? lmao

    n now it will go allot cheaper since they removed th medal (which y most players buy DQ for)

    really its like they managing another game (they really dont know whats going on ingame)

    hope they put something that worth it in there now or allot of players will loss there money sources..
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    How about the devs learn how to code and fix the problem instead of creating an entirely new one.

    Thanks!

    -the PWI playerbase
  • Ryegard - Heavens Tear
    Ryegard - Heavens Tear Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Are you ****** kidding me! Ive spent millions of coins on DQ to get the last 7 medal of glory's that I need to finish my R9 set when chips come back onsale again. Way to go bending over honest people again and reaming them hard. Would be to much to ask for your useless programers to fix the bug instead. Now your telling me I have a bunch of useless DQ points and a bunch of useless **** to spend them on that I dont want nor need.

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  • SlashSin - Lost City
    SlashSin - Lost City Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    You can see here on the DQ Rewards page, in the new Quest tab, it's going to be 100,000 coins for 150 DQ points.

    So the cost per DQ point is being set at ~667 coins. Ridiculously expensive if you ask me. When I was looking to purchase DQ items from players the max I would pay was 400 coins/point. Just another market screwed up by putting unnecessary/unwanted coin sinks in-game (reminds me of when dolls were made the equivalent of 100,000 coins for the Jolly Jones event, the first big market **** up).

    And lol @ Medals being removed. I knew LOTS of people saving up for them.
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    How about the devs learn how to code and fix the problem instead of creating an entirely new one.

    Thanks!

    -the PWI playerbase

    If I had to guess...
    The DQ Rewards system is something exclusive to PWI. It's something that operates outside of the game and therefore doesn't require any alterations made to the game itself. Fixing the glitch with medals would require an alteration to the actual game, and that's probably out of PWI's hands. If that's the case, their only options for the time being are to let people continue to exploit the glitch, or remove medals entirely.
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  • Tryagain - Harshlands
    Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Way to ruin the only way non-cash shoppers have to keep up with cash shoppers. G-****ing-G PW. I wonder if you will ever improve the game, or if it will just steadily degrade down to a steaming pile of ****.
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    The last time I checked some items did the same thing but weren't all tradeable, namely makeover scrolls, hyper stones, some charms, all that good stuff, and a good number of them were already on the DQ list and have tradeable counterparts. Why didn't you (devs) just replace the medals with something similar: a item that serves the purpose of the medals and isn't tradeable?
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  • Bloyse - Heavens Tear
    Bloyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    How about the devs learn how to code and fix the problem instead of creating an entirely new one.

    Thanks!

    -the PWI playerbase

    I would sign this petition...
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  • fishpup
    fishpup Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Wow its so nice that the greedy idiots again prevail. While some of us spend real money and farm our ***'s off there are a select few of greedy, self obsorbed morons that make the rest of us suffer. Hey pwi here's a thought, first fix the problems with the game instead of finding new ways of making money off us, second start punishing the morons causing problems instead of the rest of us.
  • NephlimJade - Sanctuary
    NephlimJade - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    1) Its not fair to all of us good earnest players who did not abuse the dq system for medals (via making them tradeable) to take them out of the dq list. Just because a few people bent the rules doesn't make it right to punish us all :(. I had planned on starting my rank nine soon and now you've made it nearly impossible for me. Why not just make ALL MEDALS NON TRADEABLE period? Or punish those actually bending the rules with bans?

    2) These chests of coins, when we get them from the dq list will they still need a hammer to open? How is adding them to the dq list going to give them more value if we do? Really if you wanted to give them more value....why not lower the price on hammers? Or up the coins in each chest? Because honestly why waste dq points on something that costs more to open than you get out of it????
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  • Jesya - Lost City
    Jesya - Lost City Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »


    2: Chest of Coins added to DQ Vendor List

    Ah, the Chest of Coins. This item, as you may know, has had very little value for the past 18 months or so, due to the fact that the coins inside aren't worth the hammer it takes to open it. So we've added them to the Vendor List in an effort to give some value back to it, maybe get a few people back in the Cube of Fate :)





    you don't get chest of coins from cube of fate, haven't for a long time. Does this mean they will be returning, or did you mean more incentive for people to do full GV?


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  • fishpup
    fishpup Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    NephlimJade - Sanctuary wrote: »
    1) Its not fair to all of us good earnest players who did not abuse the dq system for medals (via making them tradeable) to take them out of the dq list. Just because a few people bent the rules doesn't make it right to punish us all :(. I had planned on starting my rank nine soon and now you've made it nearly impossible for me. Why not just make ALL MEDALS NON TRADEABLE period? Or punish those actually bending the rules with bans?

    2) These chests of coins, when we get them from the dq list will they still need a hammer to open? How is adding them to the dq list going to give them more value if we do? Really if you wanted to give them more value....why not lower the price on hammers? Or up the coins in each chest? Because honestly why waste dq points on something that costs more to open than you get out of it????
    Aaah the chest of coins. Hmm they are quest rewards, um let us open them for free.
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I am utterly amazed at the number of people who's reading comprehension skills are so poor that they have yet to realize chest of coins are to be SOLD for DQ points, not BOUGHT with DQ points.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    nakhtuul wrote: »
    1) QQ @ people QQ'ing about R9 being unobtainable.

    Before rep sale, R8 was a fantasy many of us dreamed about. So stop yer whinin' about how hard it will be to get R9.

    2) I was hoping you were adding things to the list, not taking them away. But meh. Whatever.

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  • _$eeker_ - Dreamweaver
    _$eeker_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    u serious???? remove medlas from DQ points is the last thing u let us farm............
    pls pls pls change the the prhase of free to play couse this game since like 2 years ago is not free to play anymore.
    getting r9 items now are imposible. u 2x the value of it. now medals cost more than the chips u need.

    nice one pwi.

    btw, why ppl can do that wiht medals of glory and not wiht random pigments? why u cant do the same wiht medals?

    tyvm pwi for make me c i waste my time again in something related wiht this game.
  • Dezto - Harshlands
    Dezto - Harshlands Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Chuck_N - Lost City wrote: »
    10m says the medals will be in the cash shop for 50 gold next rep sale.

    99% sure that is going to be after next maintenance, oh wait that is today, how convenient...

    How hard is it to fix the bug? Like seriously, it's maybe 2-5 lines of code and you guys decide to do this instead.. this is a new low for PWI/PWE.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I don't think people know what it means for the Chests to be added to the vendor list lol.


    You will now be able to sell Chest of Coins for 500 DQ points.
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  • SaiyanGohan - Lost City
    SaiyanGohan - Lost City Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Welcome to the 33% of the player base that stops playing that much or stops playing altogether.
  • AlysonRose - Heavens Tear
    AlysonRose - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    My veno has been sitting on like 20 chests of coins from all my other characters so woot. The Jones dq points thing is bad because it runs counter to the logic behind the medal removal.

    They removed the medals because they "were impacting the economy" well now you don't even need to trade dq items to get points. Potentially this will impact everyone that isn't in FF or nirvana all day and relies on dq trade for their income/buy them for merching or points themselves.

    Now dq items go for 8-12k, but if people went by the in game value of coin/dq point then that price would be over 21330 for a 35 point item. I know that it is super unlikely given the already pretty well established market for them, but if chest of coins originally set gold prices to be comparable to hammer price I figure that the prices of dq items will slowly rise to match the npc offerings.

    Or more likely it will end up as fail an addition as the Tiger Badge quest v_v

    Without medals to use dq points for, what is the market for dq items gonna be now? People that want to get event gold, but can't get it from event? So yeah there goes the economy that a lot of people have enjoyed these last few months, myself included. I haven't actually vendored a high dq item since I hit 60k dqpoints that i had saved up for medals or a possible new dq reward (that we have been teased with for months) so pretty much 90% of my income has been selling them to catshops. The rest was from bh100 rewards.
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    NephlimJade - Sanctuary wrote: »

    2) These chests of coins, when we get them from the dq list will they still need a hammer to open? How is adding them to the dq list going to give them more value if we do? Really if you wanted to give them more value....why not lower the price on hammers? Or up the coins in each chest? Because honestly why waste dq points on something that costs more to open than you get out of it????

    ok, SELLING the chests give DQ points, you dont buy the chests with DQ points. and lowering the amount of gold it takes to open them would just raise the price of gold. idk how long you've been here, but the first time gold hit 200k was because it costs 5 gold to open the chest.
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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    NephlimJade - Sanctuary wrote: »
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    2) These chests of coins, when we get them from the dq list will they still need a hammer to open? How is adding them to the dq list going to give them more value if we do? Really if you wanted to give them more value....why not lower the price on hammers? Or up the coins in each chest? Because honestly why waste dq points on something that costs more to open than you get out of it????

    Good god how many people on here playing this CAN'T READ????? You npc the chest FOR 500 DQ points, u don't GET the chest from the damn reward page......
  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ugh the jj thing is a quest that gives you an item. You pay 100k get a pack and open it you also get dq points now with it, it seems.
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  • Axelire - Heavens Tear
    Axelire - Heavens Tear Posts: 286 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Please fix whatever exploit allowed untradeable medals of glory to become tradeable, and reinstate them, which would be the common sense to do.

    I can understand if they were temporarily removed for a fix to be made. However, now it looks like PWE is planning another medal of glory sale and wanting people to cashshop for the medals instead.

    This is the single most infuriating change for me, since I have held off exchanging my DQ points for the medals in the event I change my mind about R9. Now I'm sitting on a pile of DQ points which I farmed/bought solely for the purposes of the medals.
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