Proposition 4236 (Auto pk on PvE servers at 90+)

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  • Thrashbarg - Dreamweaver
    Thrashbarg - Dreamweaver Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ....

    Don't assume that this is a PvP requirement for these players, it it intended as more of an initial status that is removable after a period of requirement is fulfilled each login.

    Simply put, each player over level 90 logging into a PvE server will instantly be in Pk mode for a minimum of 1 hour. After that initial hour, if no status of infamy is gained by killing non-fighting white named players, the player can revert to non-pk mode.


    I just got this funny image of someone disconnecting in rebirth or warsong and logging back in to get killed by their squad's aoe before the re-invite....

    Fun b:laugh
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  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I voted yes for t3h lulz, even though it would **** me off cuz I'd have to do world bosses on a <90 alt.
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  • Yukkuri - Heavens Tear
    Yukkuri - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Since due to forum restrictions I can't shoot "rainbows" from my mouth, I'll just say this like normal people.

    I get to see you rambling about PK on and on and on AND on very often. If you're REALLY into PK, like many have said, just go to a PK server. Some of us really don't give a **** about it. I would... "explod" (typo on purpose) if this ever happened.

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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Thrashbarg - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I just got this funny image of someone disconnecting in rebirth or warsong and logging back in to get killed by their squad's aoe before the re-invite....

    Fun b:laugh

    Unless squad has pk protections off, this won't happen.

    And to echo Deora...HL is also not the graveyard certain people on PVE servers seem to think it is.
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I didn't say anything about a graveyard -- just simple server numbers. There's 2 PvP servers but 4.5 PvE servers (arch is 1/2 :P). That's more than double...
  • Maijyn - Dreamweaver
    Maijyn - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I voted 'no'. Simply put - if I wanted to PVP , I'd play on a PK server.

    I don't care WHAT level I am - I don't want to PvP and putting me there automatic will make me stop playing.
  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Because the people that roll on PVE that want PVP are idiots.

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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I didn't say anything about a graveyard -- just simple server numbers. There's 2 PvP servers but 4.5 PvE servers (arch is 1/2 :P). That's more than double...

    Number of PVP servers compared to PVE servers =/= relative population of those servers.

    I would say the population of all the servers is likely relatively equal with the exception of Archosaur.

    It's just that more people want to play on (or think they want to play on like the OP) a PVE server than a PVP server so there are more PVE servers.
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Number of PVP servers compared to PVE servers =/= relative population of those servers.

    I would say the population of all the servers is likely relatively equal with the exception of Archosaur.

    It's just that more people want to play on (or think they want to play on like the OP) a PVE server than a PVP server so there are more PVE servers.
    But that was my point... not that an individual server has more population, I'm talking about population of people who play PWI... clearly more people prefer PvE, that's why there's more PvE servers.

    PvE servers, as in total (RT + HT + DW + SANC + ARCH) > PvP servers (LC + HL) population
  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Which one of those three options falls under "Meh. Don't give a ****, if you want to PvP like crazy re-roll on a PvP server, hyper your way up and then gear up like most of the idiots in modern PWI times."??
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »
    But that was my point... not that an individual server has more population, I'm talking about population of people who play PWI... clearly more people prefer PvE, that's why there's more PvE servers.

    PvE servers, as in total (RT + HT + DW + SANC + ARCH) > PvP servers (LC + HL) population

    Look at what you originally wrote:

    "Still doesn't change the fact that they are much less populated."

    It does not matter the number of servers. Combined, yes there is less of a PVP population than a PVE one, but take them separately like comparing LC to DW and the population is about the same.
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  • Malego - Heavens Tear
    Malego - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Fact: Most players have very little interest in pvp.
    Proof: 5 pve servers and 2 pvp in PWI, 5 pve servers and 1 pvp server in JD. JD servers do have pvp realms but they are almost always void of players.

    Conclusion: Most players would not like this idea and leave, removing a lot of income for PWI. This is bad.
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  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Malego - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Fact: Most players have very little interest in pvp.
    Proof: 5 pve servers and 2 pvp in PWI, 5 pve servers and 1 pvp server in JD. JD servers do have pvp realms but they are almost always void of players.

    Conclusion: Most players would not like this idea and leave, removing a lot of income for PWI. This is bad.

    Especially when they cash shop and try to pk, but they can never win.
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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    bleh jsut makes all servers full pvp. pve is dead.

    Usually I always play pve servers, which is why i play pve here also. but those games usually had way more to offer in game.

    Im never white, but thats because its only OT pking, and u cant call that pk. its freaking duel with charm enabled. if i was to have the choice to move to a pvp server i would, then bound my gear to have fun.

    was white here once or twice. killed some randoms on map and its like all QQ fest for killing x once, and says you should let them know befure I attack. well lol sorry thats not fun, might as well just duel then.
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  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm on a PVE Server for a reason. O.o; For PVE. I don't like PVP very much at all. I am glad that there is an option for PVP at all on a PVE server. IJS, be happy when what you got!

    Fixed that for ya'! b:victory

    I agree 110%, Gwen. I had the option when I created my character of making him on a PvP or PvE server, and I chose PvE. And you want to essentially take my choice and tell me, "If you want to do endgame, you must PvP (even if it is only an hour without choice, it is still without choice)", I might just have a problem with that. I see from the poll that many others feel the same way...PvE is for PK by choice, not something to be foisted upon us by those who are tired of PKing the same people all the time.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    Player etiquete will be increased as has been experienced by the pk servers.

    Care to explain this to me...

    When I still care about the game... and do marriage quest. I would show up and take what I need and then leave. If its pk enabled... i should show up... kill everyone... take what I need and then leave. If those "waiting" in line isn't strong enough to take get the kill count from a single nix (I usually watch while my wife's nix do the killing)... you really think they'll be strong enough to fight off an archer that have the element of surprise? The people who can kill me... generally won't have a problem out damaging a single nix. So in esscense your idea won't solve anything... it'll just create a new group of dead whinners.

    Oh... and the reason there is less complaining on pvp servers. Its cause the dead tend to complain a lot less.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited November 2010
    Stupid idea. Go reroll if you want to pk. Better off asking them to enable arch arena.
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Turn all PvE servers PvP and say "IN YOUR FACE CAREBEARS!" b:cute

    Seriously though, that kind of a suggestion is not that good. Either have all 90+ people to go to PK mode even on PvE servers (which would be stupid since after all those are PvE servers), make everyone 30+ go to PK mode (see the earlier one) or keep it as is. I don't regret playing on a PvE server as we only have like one annoying sin on our server and he doesn't even have good gear lol.

    And don't forget that when PWI is down to the last server it will be PvP anyway. b:chuckle
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    The current PK situation on HT is pretty dead imo. The OP is from the only faction that does group PKing, but sadly, no one really PKs. They only have themselves and maybe a few others from other factions.


    People in PK on HT are just heavy cashshoppers/merchants who love to PK to prove a point or w/e.

    As for auto PK at 90+, must be nice to be killed during the Tiger Event, Archo Assault, etc etc.

    I used to be into the PKing scene on HT, kinda took a break from it, cuz it was completely..................boring. rofl
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  • Mattknight - Heavens Tear
    Mattknight - Heavens Tear Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    This seems to be an oximoron thread as it defeats the purpose of a PVE server.

    If you want to PK so bad everywhere go to a PK server or try putting in a petition to transfer your character to a PK server. Good luck!
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  • ruthlessmorock
    ruthlessmorock Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    No. Go to a PK server.
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I know many players on PvE servers are feeling a sense of extreme stagnation in their day to day gameplay. A majority of these players find their only remaining pleasure in the game to be TW due to the variation of experience within the weekly "event." So, I'd like to propose this suggestion to the GMs and Developers:

    Automatic PK mode on login for PvE servers at level 90+.

    Don't assume that this is a PvP requirement for these players, it it intended as more of an initial status that is removable after a period of requirement is fulfilled each login.

    Simply put, each player over level 90 logging into a PvE server will instantly be in Pk mode for a minimum of 1 hour. After that initial hour, if no status of infamy is gained by killing non-fighting white named players, the player can revert to non-pk mode.

    Benefits for the players:

    Your daily sense of stagnation is reduced as a new highly dynamic aspect of gameplay is added rather than the addition of events and instances which are highly repetitive gameplay aspects that add to the fun for a short period and then add to the stagnation.

    Players that actually have the drive to TW will be forced to improve their pvp skills during this hour if they don't just opt to shop or wander around safezones improving the overall TW gameplay and experience.

    A larger pool of pk enabled players will be available to pull from for the regular pkers for larger scale pk battles.

    Player etiquete will be increased as has been experienced by the pk servers.

    Benefits for the company:

    Less player loss due to experiential stagnation.
    Fewer high paying customers will "get bored and move on."
    Players over level 90 will have a higher tendency to spend money due to "fear of gear loss."

    Shut up **** stop being lazy or go the **.* to a PvP server.
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  • Woneo - Harshlands
    Woneo - Harshlands Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    The poll response just makes me facedesk.
    That is all.
  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Soooo... 90+ people needing to be forced into PvP, huh ?

    <.< I foresee 80% maybe even 90% of the entire PvE population going on a QQ bezerk because they didn't bound their gear and got ganked when they walked out a safezone, aoe-ing, or simply questing.

    Being in your 90's at this current time and state of the game and go for a mediocre game expierence requires you to opt for TT99, for now excluding the nirvana gear, Mkay ?b:chuckle

    to make TT99 gear you need your TT90... being forced into pvp then requires you to either wait it our for an hour, Bound gear that you cant lose but then cant decomp either to even MAKE your 99... so then spend ANOTHER insane amount to get an additional set of TT90...

    suppose you do have the option of going into Nirv gear... you'd even have to bound your tt99's which are even more of a pain to manufacture cause of the gold mats being pretty damn expensive... and in the end not being able to make yer Nirv's...

    Lots people pissed when they have to spend extra money cause YOU got bored with your already awesome sauce gear and toon when others are still TRYING to mount up to that...

    even more pissed off people that eventually end up buying their own gear back from you or a catshop or ah, for the same amount it took them to manufacture it in the first place...

    and even more people pissed cause... lets face it, they got stuffed because others cant find more ways to entertain themselves other than be uber in nirvana and Pk the **** outta other people... oh wait sorry... duel it out in duel? :D

    you, Sir, apparently do not understand the abbreveration of PvE. PLAYER Versus ENVIRONMENT...
    neither do you understand the option of pk enablement on a PvE server...

    wanna kill people ? either hit that pretty shield near your minimap and do some work on actually finding the Pk enabled people on your server and have fun playing the "who's bigger" game with them OR go to a PvP server and be uber there..
    oh wait <.< that's right... you'll probably get killed there yourself because your a lower lvl then and dont wanna join the rest of the QQ'rs that dont like being pk'd the same people as you are now !
    This proposition seems more like what i read in another person's responce, other than an actual proposition... happy facerolling your keyboard on a PvP server.b:bye

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  • Meyki - Sanctuary
    Meyki - Sanctuary Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    For me PvE is fun, I like it, I like runs in twilight temple and also BHs and working in squad and I am happy with this, I think it is fun and I am not alone. So, I would be very unhappy if I just logged in with white name and had to stay one hour in a city because of this stupid change. I think I would end like: turning on pwi, minimalizing it, surfing on internet for one hour, turning off pk mode and FINALLY playing.
  • Myralis - Sanctuary
    Myralis - Sanctuary Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    If you want to PVP, roll on a PVP server.
    Im on a PVE server for a reason.

    Theres the door.
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Myralis - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If you want to PVP, roll on a PVP server.
    Im on a PVE server for a reason.

    Theres the door.



    buut when ppl make their char, they doesnt know how crappy they pve aspect of this game is. thats learned later D:
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    <.< I foresee 80% maybe even 90% of the entire PvE population going on a QQ bezerk because they didn't bound their gear and got ganked when they walked out a safezone, aoe-ing, or simply questing.

    Someone on a PVE server doesn't know how PVP droprate works. What a shock.

    You can only lose equipped items if you go red and don't use GAs. So frankly...if you don't have your GAs or your bound gear yet and you go pking, it's at your own risk. If you're white, you only have the very small chance of dropping something insignificant from your inventory.

    PVP droprates are the same on PVE and PVP servers.
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  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Is Rad running out of people to pk? There's only so long you can wait at Silver Pool before the baby pkers get wise huh b:chuckle


    If you find the server that boring take your friends and play a different server or game. I done both, ended up staying with the latter, as my sig says b:cute


    Why stay in a server or game where you don't have the fun you want/require...
  • Furries - Dreamweaver
    Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Someone on a PVE server doesn't know how PVP droprate works. What a shock.

    You can only lose equipped items if you go red and don't use GAs. So frankly...if you don't have your GAs or your bound gear yet and you go pking, it's at your own risk. If you're white, you only have the very small chance of dropping something insignificant from your inventory.

    PVP droprates are the same on PVE and PVP servers.

    great so were safe from dropping items. Except if any random person attacks us, we got to let them kill us becuase cant defend ourselves without having turn red and risk losing items?
    Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.

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