Proposition 4236 (Auto pk on PvE servers at 90+)

Deora - Lost City · November 2010

Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »

I wanna see deora.h file to see how logiclevel is implemented. lol

Some spaces wouldn't hurt too ijs :P

int logiclevel(void){
return (rand()%18000);
}

That good enough? b:surrender

Oh and it is not all pretty formated like I normally do code since vBulletin truncates all spaces down to 1 anyway (which is caused by an HTML limitation, would be smarter if it just converted them all to )

FiDollaYou - Sanctuary · November 2010

Deora - Lost City wrote: »

I rolled on a PvP server by choice, but I think nobody else should have a choice in play style. Waaah.

Also nice to know. See, I can play that game, too.

Deora - Lost City wrote: »

#include<deora.h>
#include<stdio.h>
int main(void){
if(logiclevel() > 9000){
printf("My logic power is over 9000!!!!\n");
} else {
printf("My logic level is under 9000 :<\n");
}
return 0;
}

I just had to b:surrender

GIGO. Funny thing about computers. Presuming the hardware was designed correctly (and with some notable exceptions, commodity hardware is usually solid), flaws in the software can cause unpredictable results. We can draw a parallel with your "logic". The software in this case would be your abysmal reading comprehension skills. You see, I have NOT "complained" about PvP per se. Instead, I've "complained" about the proposal to FORCE me into PvP. On a PvE server.

All the logic skills in the world can't help you if you can't properly comprehend those funny marks on the page.

DaKillanator - Raging Tide · November 2010

No idea what any of that means. Not my thing.

/logic

Serrinity - Sanctuary · November 2010

No, no, no, and NO. Forcing pk on a PVE server is wrong in every way. b:surrender

Heartstone - Dreamweaver · November 2010

all servers full pvp. no safe zones, not even in towns b:laugh

Deora - Lost City · November 2010

FiDollaYou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Also nice to know. See, I can play that game, too.

GIGO. Funny thing about computers. Presuming the hardware was designed correctly (and with some notable exceptions, commodity hardware is usually solid), flaws in the software can cause unpredictable results. We can draw a parallel with your "logic". The software in this case would be your abysmal reading comprehension skills. You see, I have NOT "complained" about PvP per se. Instead, I've "complained" about the proposal to FORCE me into PvP. On a PvE server.

All the logic skills in the world can't help you if you can't properly comprehend those funny marks on the page.

Go away Yulk b:bye

DaKillanator - Raging Tide · November 2010

Deora - Lost City wrote: »

Go away Yulk b:bye

name calling =/= logic ijs

Furries - Dreamweaver · November 2010

you know it would be totally awesome if people on PvE servers had the option to go in pk and kill others just like PvP servers can.

That way they could PvP!!!

that would be just SOOOO awesome.

*facepaw*
/sarcasm

Borsuc - Raging Tide · November 2010

That's not logic it's just C code (kinda archaic, who uses void in parameters anymore?)... and the logiclevel thing returns a random number between 0 and 17999. So no you didn't miss anything serious :P

Deora - Lost City · November 2010

Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »

That's not logic it's just C code (kinda archaic, who uses void in parameters anymore?)... and the logiclevel thing returns a random number between 0 and 17999. So no you didn't miss anything serious :P

I do just for the nostalgia of it

And I know that... was being a troll if you didn't catch my /sarcasm when I originally posted it

Also, technically if else statements are logic as the computer has to decide if it is true or not

Pressa - Heavens Tear · November 2010

Haha man **** you I am not going to agree to this in no sense of the things. The reason why I play on a PvE server is I don't like that stupid PK all the time and KoS ****. I played PvP servers there is a reason I am on a PvE server with a option to PK or not. If you have ever had your newbie wizard town camped by random people in every town you go to you will understand why I hate the idea. Oh oh no if you don't get it I was a level 30 wizard I got camped by level 60s in EVERY town I went to newbie or not. The server was just old enough to have a bunch of level 60s and enough asses to prevent me and a bunch of other people from ever sneaking out. Oh sure you say play another day tried that nope same **** can't have gotten any better I hate the PvP thing in here its well it doesn't let anything past if archers and venos decide they can't stand you. My poor wizard Gell is so not getting played because he can't level. I again say I hate this idea

Segreta - Sanctuary · November 2010

I didn't read the whole thread but

From my point of view your suggestion is just selfish,if you're bored switch to a PvP server.

We *carebears* or whatever others call us,have choose the PvE way,means no FORCED PvP no matter what level.

End of the story
End of the discussion

If you think that PvP is unfair pre-high levels,they may implement a more *fair* PvP system on PvP server to prevent high levels to bullying lower levels:Protection of 15 levels range(Means only players in 15 levels range can attack you and vice versa).

b:bye

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear · November 2010

Even with the plainly biased OP for making PK non-optional at 90+ this got shot down pretty hard.

Though since it turns out he's quite the heavy cash shopper, I'm sure he wouldn't take issue with oracling a nub up on a PVP server and just playing there. That's a far better idea than the silly (putting it nicely) idea of trying to ruin everyone else's fun who wants the choice of entering PK mode, and happen to be on PVE server, because OP is bored with nothing else to do.

ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear · November 2010

This idea is dumb...what so people can abuse/attack some one for no apparent reason??Would u do that in RL...people in PvP mostly have no respect for others.So in PvE when one does go into PK it meens something that they are ready for anything that comes their way..(well some of them).

but sorry u fail on a thread topic.

Kaste - Sanctuary · November 2010

Lol if you want to PvP, go to PvP server.

/closethreadandstopQQinggeez-.-

Knownase - Heavens Tear · November 2010

rofl wow, Aneu got teared to shreds at this point. b:shocked

Conavar - Heavens Tear · November 2010

Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »

rofl wow, Aneu got teared to shreds at this point. b:shocked

17 pages though . So it gets people talking about something else rather than APS ...

Oh s*** I just did it b:shocked

Allynna_ - Dreamweaver · November 2010

The problem here is that there is little wrong with the in-game mechanics of PvP (not a fan of item drop. but w/e) but more the player base/mentality on most servers. If people on PvE servers where that bored with the game, there would be more than 1-2 dozen players around OT (heck, half of them are even blue named 0_o).

Even if this was implemented, you would be changing game mechanics, when the PvP issue on PvE servers is mostly a player base issue. If you really want to PvP, you could get some friends/guilds together and do a PvP event in some isolated part of the map.

Oscars_SOUL - Lost City · November 2010

na he should roll a pvp server b:bye

Kataguruma - Harshlands · November 2010

Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »

17 pages though . So it gets people talking about something else rather than APS ...

Oh s*** I just did it b:shocked

Oh no dont bring that idea to them please XD They will make another thread of it!!! b:laugh

But concerning this actual thread, I totally disagree because the main purpose of PVP server is to give an alternative to players sick of PvE. So, you're idea already exist. And there is people who like to PvE don't forget it.

Heartstone - Dreamweaver · November 2010

Allynna_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The problem here is that there is little wrong with the in-game mechanics of PvP (not a fan of item drop. but w/e) but more the player base/mentality on most servers. If people on PvE servers where that bored with the game, there would be more than 1-2 dozen players around OT (heck, half of them are even blue named 0_o).

Even if this was implemented, you would be changing game mechanics, when the PvP issue on PvE servers is mostly a player base issue. If you really want to PvP, you could get some friends/guilds together and do a PvP event in some isolated part of the map.

now alrdy stop, you cant compare OT pk'ing and pk on a pvp server.

OT is mostly just few ppl 1v1 or random sins pop out of nowhere. It's not the fun aspect pvp servers have x kills y for fun. Y brings more friends from his fac and so does x. PK war started somewhere. whatever stupid reasons may be for a pk war to start. it seems fun on vids atleast. not like OT ppl standing still waiting for som1 to hit, it's radicolous people can find it fun.

If you kill som1 white named random somewhere (even around ur lvl) cos you feel like it, then responces alot of time is, "i dont wanna pk", "why did you do that" "I'm not at OT, dont hit me" or whatever it rly bugs me. which is a reason i usually keep myself blue**( lawl oops had it as white for hours, didnt see)

Paramedic - Dreamweaver · November 2010

blue .

Yulk - Heavens Tear · November 2010

I picked no, there is no pvp around in PVP server because PK itself isn't even alive because they just want to do quests and whatever... Either that or if it is anyway to them to win.

1: Gear imbalance / pampering quest items such as tideborn gear is just broken, intervals, and channeling made 5 second PVP. This made the biggest factor why pvp is not interesting. Whoever said 5 aps perma-spark is not OP is either in denial or just don't know how to play. Pay to "win" more like pay to brag. They said it like they don't even stun.

2. Genie, the instant casts says it all and it is always 100% accuracy certain genie skills such as true emptiness is far too strong. Now it has become a priority which crippled the player knowledge base level and their skill level. I am glad I searched this

Magiere - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The whole Genie system should be removed, it made people rely too much on genie skills
in PvE AND PvP while not on improving their class's + knowledge level.

3. Charms / apothecary are enabled, why would i want to spend some $$ or time JUST to win a fight between someone??? I rather make these worthwhile and go somewhere wit this.

4. overpowered skills, stun locking is OP itself, I stun locked many and many, and always end up winning the duel. PK is no difference. Making it, you guessed it, 5 second PVP.

5. Ganging, Happens on every MMORPG. I was on another game, it happened to me a lot. It was rare that I get a 1 vs 1. I get like 3-4 people on me usually. I remembered as my own warrior lvl70+, I owned 4 other warriors my lvl with 1 cleric helping me that was 60+, I could of easily get stun locked but oddly they haven't know how to chain stun as a team. They have underestimated my gameplay, like the people did on this forum board, possibly they still do. I used to like PVP, but it was nothing but competition, and I hate competition.

PK does not equate as skill, it is a no-holds barred thing. Do anything to win. This is about get overpowered things with high rolls. Making people blow $$$ just to "win". Generally without refines, venomancers are just OP, they are very hard to take down (unless they are pure magic with elemental necklaces) with pets doing full damage. Making people have to pay $$$ just to beat even venomancers, then leads to venomancers not having so much power anymore because of refines. They get their phoenix (or should I say QQbirds) to own people. Then people refine even more, now not even the QQ birds are effective anymore, now BMs have that spotlight of being broken cash shop wise. More power to them. I will NOT be surprised when magic classes get buffed up even though they are fine as they are. It is better to nerf the OP things, than buff up other things. This is what they did to A-.... not even going to say it, but on A-N, there is no pve server, but you cannot attack your own faction, just opposite, but lower levels are camped and killed just for AP. Go search it yourself on PVP section.

If an MMORPG will have honest PVP, then the overpowered things have to go so the one who swiped their credit card will not win all the time. Then again there is fps and fighting games for that. I'd really love to play Street fighter against people online, really fun. Better yet Tekken, really a fun game.

Even though I don't like being caster, but I do like fair game, PW does not offer that when it comes to gears anymore. Technically it should of just had STR, DEX, VIT and MAG adds to them and let people try to play the game without relying on these things.

Aubree - Dreamweaver · November 2010

The problem with PK on PVE servers is that most of the people who turn it on are freaking cry babies.

Examples:

@ 2 members of rival faction (also same faction that controlled the entire map) were grinding in 3rd OHT map. Member of my faction PKd one in pk mode. The other member of rival faction then turned white as well and proceeded to try to gank member of my faction. Member of my faction called for back up. We went to kill them. Those rival faction members then stood in safe zone crying about how his gear is **** and we were ganking. He said it was disrspectful to pk while they were grinding in scarred and how we wasted their hypers.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear · November 2010

lol

pause button is for pausing

how was hypering helping him get better gear?

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver · November 2010

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

blue .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJumPUDNshI

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

it is always 100% accuracy

not all skills but most. wb

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

pause button is for pausing

hyper activations >> hyper time (imho)

i do think that pk is pk however and if you go white prepare to die XD

Lynneya - Sanctuary · November 2010

If its not broke then don't fix it. Plenty of folks here very happy with how things are, you just don't hear about them as much as the complainers because folks don't tend to post for no other reason then they are happy and having a great time with things the exact same way they are now.
A mindboggling No on this.

Yulk - Heavens Tear · November 2010

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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I forgot the accuracy based ones... ok most.

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hyper activations >> hyper time (imho)

i do think that pk is pk however and if you go white prepare to die XD

I haven't died from another player at all as a white name b:surrender

Ajani - Harshlands · November 2010

Instead of rolling in one of the 5 carebear servers (lol on the 5 to 2 prop..) join a PvP server. Although i get it.. Pve to 100 then QQ about lack of fun.

Kataguruma - Harshlands · November 2010

Ajani - Harshlands wrote: »

Instead of rolling in one of the 5 carebear servers (lol on the 5 to 2 prop..) join a PvP server. Although i get it.. Pve to 100 then QQ about lack of fun.

I agree on what you say. People are mad because there is no PvP on PvE server... Okay they didnt formulate their sentences like this. But why going on a PvE server when you like a lot PvP? I like being able to choose between PvE or PvP server.

Proposition 4236 (Auto pk on PvE servers at 90+)

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