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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    the word adapt and observe are blasphemy on these forums. srysly

    ^ True
    b:chuckle people are just going through a shock to the system... even me b:surrender i cant farm TT anymore and have it be worth it

    It is still farmable... ;)


    However, the "shock" for the majority started with the TW changes and since then, what I would call Massive, more changes have been implemented. The shock doesn't settle for many bc there is no understanding as to why the CN servers make these changes and why they are brought here. People generally are afraid of what they do not understand.

    Although...these changes to HH seem over the top. I think many have mentioned that a small "tweek" = fine but going from "tame" to, for some, insta one-shot when you have all +10 gears = extreme.


    Still convinced there is a glitch in the mob counter = bosses in PERMA Frenzy mode...wrong or not. ;)
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  • sethh
    sethh Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Byebye Pwi getting out of people bye bye..
    I predict some people gonna lose jobs^^
    b:pleasedI'm ignorant :)
  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    b:surrender why no jones blessing... everyone has one of those


    doing old schoolb:laugh

    tbh to lazy to connect facebook and PWI to get a blessing b:laugh
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    doing old schoolb:laugh

    tbh to lazy to connect facebook and PWI to get a blessing b:laugh

    I would SO try what you are doing...sounds like it would be amazingly fun.

    Plsssssss take ss's b:beg
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    man TT sure is frickin hard now i cant imagine what its like with people who dont have awsome gear like i have sure must suck & also bck in the day TT wasnt as hard as it is now so you can just shuv tht comment right up your *cough*b:avoid sure it was a little tough but dam its nothing compared to this although i do believe this new TT it is almost as hard as old lunar or old frost but its not quite there yet lol man those were fun but changing TT to where average geared people cant do it even with having "skill" i do say is BSb:laugh
    Collector of pet eggs, armor, weapons, fashion, and mountsb:chuckle
  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited August 2010



    It is still farmable... ;)

    I know... but not profitable xD
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Can someone explain to me why you need TT99 or Nirvana gear just to farm for TT99? I don't quite understand. b:surrender

    Also.. I'm really hoping Rose is right and they're stuck in Frenzy for some reason.
  • Fierydevil - Lost City
    Fierydevil - Lost City Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I still don't understand why so much QQ over changes, I only keep playing PW because each patch we get a new game, we get new challenges and we need to rethink our way to play.

    I can say that if we were still playing 2008 version of this game I would had quit long ago.
    This is a warning b:victory
  • Purple_fury - Sanctuary
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    dunno if this is a glitch or not but im doing a 1-2 cause im bored and all the normal mobs are hitting double what they are suppose to b:surrender the veno tanking most the bosses says that the bosses are hitting harder as well

    Edit: just finished the last boss in 1-2 and the aoe is hitting me double atleast what it use to
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    nah just us two and 4 8x that need 3-1. anymore and it might be a little over powered tbh.
    Thinking
    NPC helmet, rings, necklace, cape, belt(no jones blessing)[both of us]
    TT80 Boots and arm(for me) legendary pants and chest TT80 weapon
    TT80 boots (You) Legendary arm, chest, and pants and TT80 weapon
    i hope u dont mean straight from the npc merchant >_> cause even back in my 70s i was VERY careful to find non-mold non-TT accessory with good bonus stats.... (actually i think i still have those accessories...ima go look...once i get home)

    ima assume we can use genies and everything else that would be available at a non-absurd price for a lv80s (minus the facebook blessing)
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I know... but not profitable xD

    I will disagree...
    I still don't understand why so much QQ over changes, I only keep playing PW because each patch we get a new game, we get new challenges and we need to rethink our way to play.

    I can say that if we were still playing 2008 version of this game I would had quit long ago.

    FD b:cuteb:dirty
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    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Rhyme - Harshlands
    Rhyme - Harshlands Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    it's just me or ppl get out of sleep after get hit for the first time????


    Must just be you.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I would SO try what you are doing...sounds like it would be amazingly fun.

    Plsssssss take ss's b:beg
    iknowright xD
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  • sethh
    sethh Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Nobody my level could do this even with insano gears. There is no stupid charm or med that could save my 4k hp from this boss. Get off your 102 godmode seat and try it with a 90 squad. Then we can talk.
    I still don't understand why so much QQ over changes, I only keep playing PW because each patch we get a new game, we get new challenges and we need to rethink our way to play.

    I can say that if we were still playing 2008 version of this game I would had quit long ago.

    Excuse me but,
    Is it fair get less coins, is it fair increases the dificulty of a TT run just to get a mat stupid math, who doesn't even worth get it when ur armor repair is so high? is it fair that a F2P who is in USA recieves bullsh!t from another country. We don't even care if the game still 2008 u would quit long ago. better for us ...
    b:pleasedI'm ignorant :)
  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    i hope u dont mean straight from the npc merchant >_> cause even back in my 70s i was VERY careful to find non-mold non-TT accessory with good bonus stats.... (actually i think i still have those accessories...ima go look...once i get home)

    ima assume we can use genies and everything else that would be available at a non-absurd price for a lv80s (minus the facebook blessing)


    Why not? I used NPC stuff on my cleric, how did u say it, back in the day? So shouldnt be that hard if fail Bobbyjoe can do it xD.

    I never had molds till I got my sky demon and demon slaughter AFTER I got my TT90 I use OHT helmet and rings, and using OHT cape for HP recovery and the + vit on it
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    sethh wrote: »
    Excuse me but,
    Is it fair get less coins, is it fair increases the dificulty of a TT run just to get a mat stupid math, who doesn't even worth get it when ur armor repair is so high? is it fair that a F2P who is in USA recieves bullsh

    Life isn't fair...
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • sethh
    sethh Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Life isn't fair...

    b:cry i know...
    b:pleasedI'm ignorant :)
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Why not? I used NPC stuff on my cleric, how did u say it, back in the day? So shouldnt be that hard if fail Bobbyjoe can do it xD.

    I never had molds till I got my sky demon and demon slaughter AFTER I got my TT90 I use OHT helmet and rings, and using OHT cape for HP recovery and the + vit on it
    from 75s on i camped the AH whenever free time i had so i can find some good bonus stats for a good price. (no molds of course) Back then i didnt charge zen but i was more serious about gears. If someones a lv 8x using NPC merchant bought gear while farming for TT90s thats just plain fail and they deserve to die multiple times there.......... u got my hopes up for nothing. -.-
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    BladedZero - Sanctuary
    "Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."

    -And we wonder why this game has gone to hell b:cute
  • Denarius - Heavens Tear
    Denarius - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    As someone so close to lvl 90 I feel its very unfair that it will be impossible for me to farm my TT90 mats, I mean the difficulty of the instance is far beyond normal and this is for an instance that needs to be repeated over and over again just to get equipments that aren't even the best (as in nirvana is easier than TT which is just unbelievable)
    This doesn't make any sense for any MMO where one instance that is technically meant for getting armor that will help you in your endgame fights but isn't the endgame armor itself is so much harder than doing the game's final instance so to speak... b:shocked

    So yeah forget having getting endgame armor being nearly impossible to attain, now you make the PRE-endgame armor harder to create than anything else? this is total nonsense..
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2010

    Sooooooooo....a cleric gets "included" for heals?

    Not exactly constant damage...




    PS ---> Are ppl forgetting that NOT ALL HH90 comes from 3-1? ijs......
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Purple_fury - Sanctuary
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    if normal mobs in 1-2 and aoe of bosses in 1-2 hit double what they use to i cant even think how bad 3-+ are now b:surrender
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  • Fierydevil - Lost City
    Fierydevil - Lost City Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    filter circumvention - frankieraye
    This is a warning b:victory
  • Axelire - Heavens Tear
    Axelire - Heavens Tear Posts: 286 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Just did BH3-3, it was messed up. Sure its possible to do, but it is just not worth it.

    I'd like to suggest two things for future changes:

    - Everything in moderation;
    - Think outside of the box.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Sooooooooo....a cleric gets "included" for heals?

    Not exactly constant damage...




    PS ---> Are ppl forgetting that NOT ALL HH90 comes from 3-1? ijs......

    The cleric will be "weighted" as not having constant damage. That's what was meant by that. It's obvious that they cannot even come close to their DD potential in a 10 minute fight while healing.
    BladedZero - Sanctuary
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    -And we wonder why this game has gone to hell b:cute
  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    This threads looks familiar....O yeah it looks like that same TW discussion thread with 1mil replies and no feedbackb:shocked.
  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I will disagree...


    well doing 1 3-3 yesterday my costs were as follows w/ no drops the 3 times i went:
    (yes i understand that after getting the hang of it could cost less BUT none the less our first attempts and one run)

    - 40 pdef charms (200 chi stones x 625 = 125,000)
    - 1/3 of a gold HP charm (4 gold x 410k = 1.6 mil/3 = 550k)
    - 6 GAs (9 tokens = 1 GA so- 9 x 11,450 = 103,050 x 6 = 618,300)
    - 100 mp food (3 tokens = 50 mp food so- 3 x 11,450 = 34,350 x 2 = 68,700)
    - 150 crab meat (8 tokens = 50 crab meat so- 8 x 11,450 = 91,600 x 3 = 274,800)

    this all totals about 1.7 mil a run (give or take the prices of things)

    so i am already in the hole around 5 mil b:sad


    also i was an idiot and did it all single cleric -_- but ya... the profit has decreased a lot
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    How many posts does it take to get it to you that we don't like the changes? I would've thought that you can get the picture from just the first page, same with TW, UI and packs.
  • Fierydevil - Lost City
    Fierydevil - Lost City Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    well doing 1 3-3 yesterday my costs were as follows w/ no drops the 3 times i went:
    (yes i understand that after getting the hang of it could cost less BUT none the less our first attempts and one run)

    - 40 pdef charms (200 chi stones x 625 = 125,000)
    - 1/3 of a gold HP charm (4 gold x 410k = 1.6 mil/3 = 550k)
    - 6 GAs (9 tokens = 1 GA so- 9 x 11,450 = 103,050 x 6 = 618,300)
    - 100 mp food (3 tokens = 50 mp food so- 3 x 11,450 = 34,350 x 2 = 68,700)
    - 150 crab meat (8 tokens = 50 crab meat so- 8 x 11,450 = 91,600 x 3 = 274,800)

    this all totals about 1.7 mil a run (give or take the prices of things)

    so i am already in the hole around 5 mil b:sad


    also i was an idiot and did it all single cleric -_- but ya... the profit has decreased a lot

    you doing it wrong ...
    This is a warning b:victory
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    All I know is....

    ...glad to have my TT99 gears....


    as for 3-3, its do able, except most ppl on HT (if not all) can't take on the Arma boss.


    As for the "average player" squads......dont know about them now, BH3-3 was decently hard, it would take skills and gear to take the boss on now.

    So my opinion, doesn't affect me, I don't farm 3-3 anymore.b:surrender
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