GM Response: DQ Mats price change

Jennalicious - Sanctuary wrote: »

There's only one thing left to do. PWE, you have left me no choice.

*Calls Chuck Norris*

God yes




/10char

KonariRaiden wrote: »

Frankie, there's only one phrase that can properly describe my feelings about you right now.

LIKE A BOSS.

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bah hahaha...b:chuckleb:victory

Azzazin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Gold farming in the Chinese version... what exactly does this entail, I have to wonder? O.o; Bots & afk-grinding & other shenanigans? Wonder why its only a problem there, & not in our version.

Thanks for the response frankie,

Azzazin

Hundreds of bots grinding DQs, selling to NPCs and then selling that coin for dollars. You go to a website and then pay a dollar or two for 1m coins.

Nope, dropping dq prices won't stop it at all. Banning the accounts that are botting will. Gee I'm smart. Maybe I should work for PWE.

Tjikkie - Raging Tide wrote: »

...and the 20% drop on DQ items won't stop that!
---and because of some <censored> <censored> pieces of <censored> 10 thousands of normal playing people have to pay for it

The chinese staff of PW always choose the easiest solution to any porblem then encountered, to minimise their costs and maximize their profits :

ex #1 : there is a bug in an event called "forrest ruins". Did they fixed the bug? No, they removed the event.

ex #2 : there is a bug in the monthly and yearly horse race. Did they fixed the bug? No, they removed the events.

ex #3 : there was lots of hackers that made lots of money by hacking through FBs. Did they fixed the **** or banned the hackers? No, they reduced the quantities of mirages you get by decomposing 3*** items.

ex #4 : there are tons of gold farmers on the chinese servers. Did they hired GMs to ban them? No, they reduced the selling cost of DQ items by 20%.

^^ And you forgot to add Anniversary Packs that actually ruined the whole game.
And dun worry, they will be back under a different name in a few weeks, thats a fact !!!

oks reducing the price of dragon quest items is a really bad idea. as it means the territory wars faction are going to be only the people that are going to be able to buy things with coins. if you want to balance out your in game economy. you need to remove the coin reward from the territory wars and give them something else for having won those territories like example a special clothing or armour type or weapon thats used for territory wars.

This change your implementing is punishing those who do not territory war. I for one do not territory war cause I am in GMT time zone and never on when the bidding starts or the fights starts so how is change fair to people like me as I know I am not alone.

You make this change you are going to lose a large player base that you have gained

While we have seen a response about the DQ items (thank you) we still have not heard anything about the reduced mirage decomp rate, why it happened, will it be fixed and if so when. Obviously someone who is in a position to speak about this has read my question/post since they have posted about other things on this thread, bt have been avoiding my question. Should I start my own thread? I just figured it fit naturally here about "changes" that are happening.

So please respond. I have quite a few 3 star items I'm holding onto waiting to decomp until after it is fixed.

Thank you

Rumble - Harshlands wrote: »

While we have seen a response about the DQ items (thank you) we still have not heard anything about the reduced mirage decomp rate, why it happened, will it be fixed and if so when. Obviously someone who is in a position to speak about this has read my question/post since they have posted about other things on this thread, bt have been avoiding my question. Should I start my own thread? I just figured it fit naturally here about "changes" that are happening.

So please respond. I have quite a few 3 star items I'm holding onto waiting to decomp until after it is fixed.

Thank you

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I have at least 1 3* that i cant even decompose because it wont give anything. Nope not a single mirage. I assume this was because before the nerf it only gave 1 should I just npc this because all it is doing is taking up my valuable inventory space.

(to those that wish to comment on the inability to decompose it is a pair of lvl 36 3* boots fully repaired and i have lvl 6 tailor)

I've been looking for a while, but haven't seen a GM response yet (although given that most thread explode to 20+ pages I can't read through all of them and might have missed it)

If PWI is putting in a response to the 20% DQ price drop for just us why can't they address the 3 star issue? Plus how many mirages could they possibly get from fb29? It doesn't make sense. Those are so low a grade that they only decomp to 1 mirage anyways. If the boss dropped a 2 star item then they likely dropped some DQ items as well and even with the 20% price reduction selling those would be worth more then the single mirage you get from the 3 star decomp. It doesn't make sense. Or if they need to then make 3 star drops from fb29 decomp to nothing. The loss of one mirage isn't that much. But when you try and decomp a g10 or higher and get only 2 mirages that sucks. Makes 3 stars completely worthless.

So if it is not an issue for our version please remove this garbage reduced decomp rate. And still have not seen a GM response to this to explain why, how, when.....etc. You know. All teh good questions.

Rumble - Harshlands wrote: »

I've been looking for a while, but haven't seen a GM response yet (although given that most thread explode to 20+ pages I can't read through all of them and might have missed it)

If PWI is putting in a response to the 20% DQ price drop for just us why can't they address the 3 star issue? Plus how many mirages could they possibly get from fb29? It doesn't make sense. Those are so low a grade that they only decomp to 1 mirage anyways. If the boss dropped a 2 star item then they likely dropped some DQ items as well and even with the 20% price reduction selling those would be worth more then the single mirage you get from the 3 star decomp. It doesn't make sense. Or if they need to then make 3 star drops from fb29 decomp to nothing. The loss of one mirage isn't that much. But when you try and decomp a g10 or higher and get only 2 mirages that sucks. Makes 3 stars completely worthless.

So if it is not an issue for our version please remove this garbage reduced decomp rate. And still have not seen a GM response to this to explain why, how, when.....etc. You know. All teh good questions.

This is a link to a thread regarding the changed decomposition rate: New Patch & decomposing 3*

Main highlights:

frankieraye acknowledging the thread and looking to investigate:

frankieraye wrote: »

All right guys, I'll check on this game change.

And for those of you who insist on flaming each other in this thread: either cut it out or take it to PM's.

Thanks.

frankieraye's response after looking into the matter:

frankieraye wrote: »

So here's the scoop-- the change was intended, as the devs wanted to lower the number of Mirages in the economy. Now with fewer coming from decomposing, their price should rise to the point where you guys can make profit again.

It looks like some of you are unhappy with the change, but let's give it some time for the effect on mirage prices to stabilize, and meanwhile we'll definitely pass your response on to the devs.

A bit more background:

Hitokeri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I believe on the Chinese servers, people were using hacks to get to the bosses in fb39 without killing any other mobs. The bosses drop 3* items, the hackers than decompose these items and sell mirages for profits. As a result, the decomposing of 3* items to mirages were altered in one of the patches. Also, just a heads up, people were also using hacks to kill mobs for dq items, so in a recent patch the npc price of all the dq items on the Chinese servers have been reduced by 25%. If you have dq items and intend to npc, sell them NOW.

frankieraye's response to that:

frankieraye wrote: »

Another update: We brought this --^ up with the devs and they did admit that it was another reason for the change. Apparently it's been affecting all versions of PW, so it was implemented in our version as well.

As far as i'm aware, that covers the main points of the decompostion issue.

Regards.

gold farming in MMOs is literally a job in China...I kid you not. it's not always bots either. because of so many people and not enough jobs, some, usually in their mid 20s, end up doing this until they can find something better. they live in a dorm filled with bunk beds and computers and just farm all day long for really low wages.

Ok, I see now the subject is growing to a rage burning topic. I may say now the dev's once more are going to ruin the game.
They say the problem is concerning the chinese server so no reason to pull it up on our server. (First fail)
They say they understand this isn't a popular direction but they stay on their blind road (2nd fail)
They say they will compensate but we absolutely know nothing can compensate such a ruining act. It's a sabotage nothing less.

Many players have already gone away, "inflation" is still going up, CSer's are still making ingame gold on the non-CSer's, high-level players are 90% CSer's, hacks are still on, many things still aren't functionning....etc...

I thought this version was safer from all other version fails but I was far from the count. You succeeded in doing much worse than any, dev's, for the biggest fail ever done, I should say goodnight.

Now you don't fear players go away, you don't fear inflation (since it's thanks to you), you don't fear "the titanic case" we have seen on all the PW history. Make dollars, don't mind about the real game pleasure about which players are looking for, do your JOB as it's the complete work of this perfect world.

Daikataro - Dreamweaver wrote: »

If devs didn't want the market flooded with mirages, they wouldn't have introduced those dumb "genie boxes" that gave mirages as anni packs gave tokens, the market is flooded with mirages BECAUSE OF THOSE! the economy is upside down because of so many packs so frequently

Now i'm not saying packs are a TOTALLY bad idea, i DO understand devs have to make money somehow, but for christ's sake, a few weeks ago coral sale ended, then 1 week later tiger packs came and stayed for almost a month! do they realize how badly they screwed up the players who dealt with tokens? give the packs a break for christ's sake!

I can see this on PWI news: "to counteract the 20% decrease in DQ items' NPC sell price, we will decrease the price of boutique items in 10%, go cash shop if you want to keep up with everyone else!!!!"

I don't mind the nerf in mirage decomps so much as the fact that now some of the stuff you spend 5k to decomp and get nothing.. or in my case it won't decomp at all, because there is literally NOTHING for it to decomp into.

A bit unfair to halfway implement something. Now all the low level gears cost 5k to decomp and you get no stones at all.. nothing.

They only half thought this out. 3 stars are worthless pretty much now unless they have awesome awesome stats.

What made it worse, there was NO announcement. NONE at all. Apparently we are all on a need to know basis and the company doesn't think that we ever need to kno.

Furthermore, the PACKS they keep flooding the market with are the reason that mirages are so plentiful. Also the new BH system. If there wasn't millions of ppl doing instances daily that wasn't being done before, there wouldn't be so many mirages in the economy either. They just keep making wrong decisions.

Has anyone mentioned that you can get DQ items from PW Boutique Agent?

You need a "Dragon Sphere" for each DQ item... I wonder if this has anything to do with the upcoming changes.

Thing to note is that I think the DQ menus were there for quite a while, long before news of the DQ price drop came along.