Psychic's damage

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  • Magikrap - Lost City
    Magikrap - Lost City Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lyzzern - Lost City wrote: »
    Sure psy's can do fast damage, but can they oneshot? Big question

    mage cant one shot equally geared, equal level, full buffed, non re.tard opponents
    unless you like crit with max possible wep damage with ice dragon, extreme poison, frenzy, undine etc

    i dont understand

    there was a thread in the mage forums QQing about how mages dont have enough control skills and i said they are the best class late game bcos of their damage (people disagreed-apparently u need reall good items)

    and countless times i have heard mages claiming how they regularly one shot people

    why do u need control if you can one shot ppl?
  • Magikrap - Lost City
    Magikrap - Lost City Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    this is a stupid discussion because everyone is shouting out stupid claims without any backups

    even if you had screenshots you would need to have the same items/ enemy to make any conclusions

    just look at the skill descriptions

    yeh DUH mage hits harder in one go

    ice dragon lvl10 500% wep + base + 9.5k

    red tide lvl10 (200% wep + base + 5k? + souldfource over 9 secs )*1.22

    ps: im not sure whether b voodoo affects redtides soulforce damage

    ATM wiz>psy (overall)

    BUT psy doesnt have all skills yet

    so stop fking comparing
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    me are agree with whats it's face.
    we should just wait until they get their 79 & sage/demon skills.
    then we resume teh QQ.
    =p
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Magikrap - Lost City wrote: »
    mage cant one shot equally geared, equal level, full buffed, non re.tard opponents
    unless you like crit with max possible wep damage with ice dragon, extreme poison, frenzy, undine etc

    i dont understand

    there was a thread in the mage forums QQing about how mages dont have enough control skills and i said they are the best class late game bcos of their damage (people disagreed-apparently u need reall good items)

    and countless times i have heard mages claiming how they regularly one shot people

    why do u need control if you can one shot ppl?
    i can one shot higher level opponents with better gear and blah.

    its called crit..
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    me are agree with whats it's face.
    we should just wait until they get their 79 & sage/demon skills.
    then we resume teh QQ.
    =p

    sure, im up for this. I am going to give Psychic ONE more chance. One and only ONE.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sage stone rain


    u do realise sage will of phoenix out dps stone rain? =P
    psys have other skills wiht less channel, but same 3sec waste that have more add dmg and uber efects....
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Wizards still have the highest spike dps lol.....two words: Essential Sutra.
    b:chuckle

    we have a think called tide spirit...is like sutra but not instant and adds % dmg from weapon.

    anyway wiht this fast cast time u can just try demon/sage spark and blast ur target wiht fast skills....its a hard dps dmg(+black voodoo, gets truly scary)
    anyway we need know the sgae/demon info about psy skills to know the truth about game dpser
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ultimate combo: demon/sage spark->Landslide(if enemy is close or Glacial shards if is far)->earth vector->aqua impacy+spirit blast combo

    agains wizyes/psys/cleric just do disturb soul

    and soulburn for phoenixs ^^
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    u do realise sage will of phoenix out dps stone rain? =P
    psys have other skills wiht less channel, but same 3sec waste that have more add dmg and uber efects....



    we have a think called tide spirit...is like sutra but not instant and adds % dmg from weapon.

    anyway wiht this fast cast time u can just try demon/sage spark and blast ur target wiht fast skills....its a hard dps dmg(+black voodoo, gets truly scary)
    anyway we need know the sgae/demon info about psy skills to know the truth about game dpser

    hmm, i dont really use WotP in PvE unless its for the knockback. I thought the point was to stay AWAY from the opponent.

    S.pyro > S.gush > S.SR
    ^im still going with that, since running up to your opponent isnt viable, and i think the extra 100% wep damage from SR will make it outdamage. Too lazy to do the maths.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The description of Tide Spirit is wrong, the non-channeling effect lasts for the first 6 seconds, after that it's just the increased weapon damages. But it works great with our debuffs. Indeed, Tide Spirit > Disturb Soul > chaincast works really great against other casters.
    Risingson - 7x Psychic
    Indalecio - 3x Cleric
  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    failed thread ... like all others in psy forum,,, with mages trolling around

    mmos are about playing together not playing for ur own..
    but well who would get this in here -..-
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    hmm, i dont really use WotP in PvE unless its for the knockback. I thought the point was to stay AWAY from the opponent.

    S.pyro > S.gush > S.SR
    ^im still going with that, since running up to your opponent isnt viable, and i think the extra 100% wep damage from SR will make it outdamage. Too lazy to do the maths.

    ofc u should stay away from ur opponent but most of the times thats not easy and when he gets close a WOP is a good away to dmg him easly and quickly...

    actually all depends on the situations, but u must keep in mind the skills order, like Gush->WOP->Pyro->SR, IMO
    use WOP when ur target is close to u and then shrink.
    what can i say i love WOP^^
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Szol - Harshlands wrote: »
    failed thread ... like all others in psy forum,,, with mages trolling around

    mmos are about playing together not playing for ur own..
    but well who would get this in here -..-

    u 78 psy, u could post some info about 59 skills and about ur own pk combos,
    it would be welcome
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  • Bolinhas - Lost City
    Bolinhas - Lost City Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i think it would be better to use first LANDSLIDE (if ur in range)

    cuz u can only interrupt CHANNELING, and BIDS has 4sec. channel



    so, LANDSLIDE and then RED TIDE when u see a wiz casting BIDS

    The thing is, with Sutra, Wizzies don't have channeling time b:shocked but at the same time, they can't cast DIBS for it needs two sparks... bugger XD
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bolinhas - Lost City wrote: »
    The thing is, with Sutra, Wizzies don't have channeling time b:shocked but at the same time, they can't cast DIBS for it needs two sparks... bugger XD

    after 89 possible or with spark potion :)
    another side i can stop any time the casting and use different skill, like 3rd spark for purify myself (if have 3 spark)

    (this true to any class because i often use against veno pet bleed)
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    after 89 possible or with spark potion :)
    another side i can stop any time the casting and use different skill, like 3rd spark for purify myself (if have 3 spark)

    (this true to any class because i often use against veno pet bleed)

    actually i saw ppl using spark as defence agains hard situations like a instant sage bids

    anyway soul disturb and sutra is done...

    1 big important thing sutra DOES NOT put your channel time to 0.00sec but to some ridiculous low time...just to make ppl know it =)
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    actually i saw ppl using spark as defence agains hard situations like a instant sage bids

    anyway soul disturb and sutra is done...

    1 big important thing sutra DOES NOT put your channel time to 0.00sec but to some ridiculous low time...just to make ppl know it =)

    no, its 0.00. There is this thing called cast.

    Btw at using ultis with sutra
    399 chi > sutra > 199 chi > pyrogram > 2xx chi > BIDS/BT/MS > whatever
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1 big important thing sutra DOES NOT put your channel time to 0.00sec but to some ridiculous low time...just to make ppl know it =)

    *facepaw*
    you sure you managed to get 7x on a wizard?

    now someone go check if disturbed soul overwrites sutra.
    b:surrender
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no, its 0.00. There is this thing called cast.

    Btw at using ultis with sutra
    399 chi > sutra > 199 chi > pyrogram > 2xx chi > BIDS/BT/MS > whatever

    dont make me go get the post where it is proved in the deeps of the wizard forum b:surrender
    its not 0.00sec chan belive me or not^^ however im sure what i tell u cuz its tested over and over =P u have like 0.1sec chan or something near

    thats it; full chi and sutra->skill->ulty->something^^
    my favorite is sutra->D.Pyro/FOW(i rather silence and waste 2sec than get stuned and see my 2 sparks gone for nothing, i mean do silence if u getting hitted if not and u sure u cant get stuned by ur target u are free to do whatever anyway i love D.Pyro in sutra....is sexy)->Sage BLACK ICE DRAGON STRIKE(cuz we all know itb:dirty)->WOP/Pyro/SS->WOP/SR/SS/GS/D.Pyro anything that hits fast enought^^     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsLzf9yKptQ&feature=related this is what happens b:shocked
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    *facepaw*
    you sure you managed to get 7x on a wizard?

    now someone go check if disturbed soul overwrites sutra.
    b:surrender

    u sure u got to 8x on a wizard? b:laugh

    it does, and im 7x << (u are 8x)

    damn i know so much lol

    Edit: get info from a 7x dude and listen all channel debuffs overwrites sutra making sutra non-existance buff while the debuff is on.
    Ex: u use gush in sutra wiht+100%chan debuff on, gush will chan for 2 sec, if u don ahve add chan from gear or whatever

    and the way u know that sutra doesnt get channel to 0.00sec is becuz u can see the bar filling which means channelling and ur skill can get interrupt in midle of sutra and ONLY channel can get interrupt not cast time
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  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i doubt disturbed soul over writes sutra seeing as how if the cast time is truly 0.00 then increasing that by 80% is still 0. and even if it was 0.1 it would still only make the cast time 0.18...
  • Zeoso - Heavens Tear
    Zeoso - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i doubt disturbed soul over writes sutra seeing as how if the cast time is truly 0.00 then increasing that by 80% is still 0. and even if it was 0.1 it would still only make the cast time 0.18...

    I've heard that it completely cancels sutra, as in the sutra status disappears.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    bah....
    any psychics on lost city with disturbed soul?
    ....
    me want to test it out meself.
    b:surrender
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  • Snow_Flake - Raging Tide
    Snow_Flake - Raging Tide Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hamsta, go for it please >.<"
    I'm also pretty curious D=

    Sutra is my dream ever so...
    I'd cry a river if it could be canceled by Disturb Soul b:cry
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Snow_Flake - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Hamsta, go for it please >.<"
    I'm also pretty curious D=

    Sutra is my dream ever so...
    I'd cry a river if it could be canceled by Disturb Soul b:cry

    u can start crying so!!! b:laugh
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ._.'
    me not getting any offers....
    b:surrender
    fine....me go search around in game for one.....
    -.-'
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    waz lazy to read thos 11 pages just saying that psyc dmg isnt as much as wiz dmg at 79 to do 18k with 2 spark skill isnt alot i renmber doing at that lvl easly 24ks with bid on drake
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    had a wizzie hit 37k on a gush in glut bh

    had a archer chaining 10k hits

    was chain criting 10k punches myself

    boss was full armor broken and at 140% amp

    wizzie was tanking and our psy never touched aggro with black on the whole time

    you damage does not impress meb:chuckle

    (also does disturb affect hell spark channel? i know hampsters testing sutra but has anyone confirmed its effect on other -channel buffs? and does it affect bosses such as wurlord?)
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    had a wizzie hit 37k on a gush in glut bh

    had a archer chaining 10k hits

    was chain criting 10k punches myself

    boss was full armor broken and at 140% amp

    wizzie was tanking and our psy never touched aggro with black on the whole time

    you damage does not impress meb:chuckle

    (also does disturb affect hell spark channel? i know hampsters testing sutra but has anyone confirmed its effect on other -channel buffs? and does it affect bosses such as wurlord?)

    IT DOES!!! JUST GO PVE A CHANNEL DEBUFF MOB AND SEE IT FOR UR OWN, THE DISTUB SOUL HAVE SAME EFCT AS MOBS CHAN DEBUFF!!!omfg
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  • _Anemone_ - Sanctuary
    _Anemone_ - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    well hows this i'm lvl 72 psy and i just tanked all of fb59. i used WHITE voodoo and only lost aggro once...to a bm with more lvls then me so yeah....and i have easily stolen aggro from 80+ people....your psy musta sucked. b:victory
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    _Anemone_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    well hows this i'm lvl 72 psy and i just tanked all of fb59. i used WHITE voodoo and only lost aggro once...to a bm with more lvls then me so yeah....and i have easily stolen aggro from 80+ people....your psy musta sucked. b:victory

    the problem of white voodoo is u cant dmg at all, if ur voodoo is lv10
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  • _Anemone_ - Sanctuary
    _Anemone_ - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    lol my voodoo is lvl 10 and i still kept aggro. b:chuckle

    edit: besides of which black overwrites white and white overwrites black so its very easy to switch voodoo to get aggro back if someone does happen to take it. ofotis was the only one where white voodoo was actually really needed i can do the others with black on if a cleric spam heals me.

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