Psychic's damage

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

FranzKafka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't understand your logic(well you're Eq material so that makes sense-no offense).A wizard has more basic spell damage and for now you have Undine strike so overall even if i use tide spirit+black voodoo you do more damage.But then you say psychic is easier?since you're a wizard i assume was easier than wizard?again why so if we do so much less damage.beats me but yours my be just an easy said opinion based on non-facts.
P.S. Don't get me wrong I'm only taking what you said not attacking you as a player.

OK! Lets put some facts out
Psychic is a PvE class
Psychic takes no real skill to play
Psychic has no physical attacks making it useless against robe classes
Psychic is easy because you dont have to try to get through.

GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »

i think it would be better to use first LANDSLIDE (if ur in range)

cuz u can only interrupt CHANNELING, and BIDS has 4sec. channel

so, LANDSLIDE and then RED TIDE when u see a wiz casting BIDS

sutra > pyro > MS > double spark pot > BT

you dont need to do it exactly, just wanna use 2 ultis in a sutra combo for the lulz.

eatwithspoons · January 2010

Moved to the correct section. Threads posted in the wrong section will be locked or moved.

If you want to make sure that your thread remains open, please post in the right forum section b:victory

Miss_Cleo - Lost City · January 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

OK! Lets put some facts out
Psychic is a PvE class
Psychic takes no real skill to play
Psychic has no physical attacks making it useless against robe classes
Psychic is easy because you dont have to try to get through.

Where did this come from? Have you even played a Psychic? If not then come back when you have.

1) Psychic's at my level are killing players 9x.
2) Try one then talk to me.
3) Wizzies have one that has some and even then it does not do much but tickle.
4) Think I missed something.

Just to let you know, at my level I have killed players much higher then me after they have attacked first and that is all classes. At level 75 i was criting mobs in PQ for 60k.

I am sick of the Wizard versus Psychic **** from those who have never played one or that just refuse to acknowledge a class that will have some of the same nuking power with MUCH slower channel. And not to mention the buffs, debuffs, bleed, stun, slow effects on virtually every skill.

Now, I do not care about what character you are. People need to get over the class verus class ****, it is getting old and no one will really know until they have (1) played or (2) there are more Psychic's at 9x+

GohRaL - Sanctuary · January 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

sutra > pyro > MS > double spark pot > BT

you dont need to do it exactly, just wanna use 2 ultis in a sutra combo for the lulz.

since im noob in both WIZ and PSY class i didnt toll any of those on purpose...

i just stated that is the CHANNELING u have to CANCEL,

as a barb im used in CANCEL the CHANNELING...
so making a combo that leaves u just LESS THAN 1 SECOND to cancel (if u both start the combo at the same time) is nearly a suicide IMO.

i know u have sutra and nice combo for both melee and robe, but i just wanted to warn him, that cancel a skill from a boss is VERY DIFFERENT that cancel one from a player...

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »

Where did this come from? Have you even played a Psychic? If not then come back when you have.

1) Psychic's at my level are killing players 9x.
2) Try one then talk to me.
3) Wizzies have one that has some and even then it does not do much but tickle.
4) Think I missed something.

Just to let you know, at my level I have killed players much higher then me after they have attacked first and that is all classes. At level 75 i was criting mobs in PQ for 60k.

I am sick of the Wizard versus Psychic **** from those who have never played one or that just refuse to acknowledge a class that will have some of the same nuking power with MUCH slower channel. And not to mention the buffs, debuffs, bleed, stun, slow effects on virtually every skill.

Now, I do not care about what character you are. People need to get over the class verus class ****, it is getting old and no one will really know until they have (1) played or (2) there are more Psychic's at 9x+

hold on one sec

Amouriv - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »

Where did this come from? Have you even played a Psychic? If not then come back when you have.

1) Psychic's at my level are killing players 9x.
2) Try one then talk to me.
3) Wizzies have one that has some and even then it does not do much but tickle.
4) Think I missed something.

Just to let you know, at my level I have killed players much higher then me after they have attacked first and that is all classes. At level 75 i was criting mobs in PQ for 60k.

I am sick of the Wizard versus Psychic **** from those who have never played one or that just refuse to acknowledge a class that will have some of the same nuking power with MUCH slower channel. And not to mention the buffs, debuffs, bleed, stun, slow effects on virtually every skill.

Now, I do not care about what character you are. People need to get over the class verus class ****, it is getting old and no one will really know until they have (1) played or (2) there are more Psychic's at 9x+

yes i played psychic.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »

Where did this come from? Have you even played a Psychic? If not then come back when you have.

1) Psychic's at my level are killing players 9x.
2) Try one then talk to me.
3) Wizzies have one that has some and even then it does not do much but tickle.
4) Think I missed something.

Just to let you know, at my level I have killed players much higher then me after they have attacked first and that is all classes. At level 75 i was criting mobs in PQ for 60k.

I am sick of the Wizard versus Psychic **** from those who have never played one or that just refuse to acknowledge a class that will have some of the same nuking power with MUCH slower channel. And not to mention the buffs, debuffs, bleed, stun, slow effects on virtually every skill.

Now, I do not care about what character you are. People need to get over the class verus class ****, it is getting old and no one will really know until they have (1) played or (2) there are more Psychic's at 9x+

Psychics are meh classes. They dont get better at 59 which turned me off immediately. I remember getting to 59 on my wiz and seeing a small leap in strength. When i got my tt60 at 60 it was like a whole different class, and so many things to do and explore. When my psychic hit 60, it wasnt the same. I went against a lvl 80 psychic today. Didnt last long. Blade Tempest and he was down.

but i still wuvs you ChocolateLuv<3

Miss_Cleo - Lost City · January 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Psychics are meh classes. They dont get better at 59 which turned me off immediately. I remember getting to 59 on my wiz and seeing a small leap in strength. When i got my tt60 at 60 it was like a whole different class, and so many things to do and explore. When my psychic hit 60, it wasnt the same. I went against a lvl 80 psychic today. Didnt last long. Blade Tempest and he was down.

but i still wuvs you ChocolateLuv<3

I thought the same thing through my 6x. Once I got the 69 molder, things changed dramatically and I can tell you they keep getting better.

I just have an issue with this Wiz versus Psychic. Maybe it is because I am not a fan of the Wiz class personally, but I have never stated anything negative against them as a class. They are HUGE assets in TW, PvP and rebirth. We all know that.

People need to give these new classes a chance. Oh and while thinking about it, Rebirth was completed without a Wizard b:surrender

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »

I thought the same thing through my 6x. Once I got the 69 molder, things changed dramatically and I can tell you they keep getting better.

I just have an issue with this Wiz versus Psychic. Maybe it is because I am not a fan of the Wiz class personally, but I have never stated anything negative against them as a class. They are HUGE assets in TW, PvP and rebirth. We all know that.

People need to give these new classes a chance. Oh and while thinking about it, Rebirth was completed without a Wizard b:surrender

I used to think psychic was going to be the next big thing. I am now really disappointed. I dont even want to bother getting to 69. My wiz has never failed me yet, and i think its time for me to devote my full time to him.

GohRaL - Sanctuary · January 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I used to think psychic was going to be the next big thing. I am now really disappointed. I dont even want to bother getting to 69. My wiz has never failed me yet, and i think its time for me to devote my full time to him.

it would be silly to level it for 87 level and then drop it...

if ur still having fun with him, **** the mermaid...ur a pro in ur class and end game is near...

im at 77, and when ill be back in game ill continue on my lovely barb, even if id enjoy trying the new class just to know it a lil better...

ive had so much time with him that i wouldnt exchange him for no1 else b:pleasedb:cute

AND I CANT WAIT FOR DEMON CULTIVATION

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »

it would be silly to level it for 87 level and then drop it...

if ur still having fun with him, **** the mermaid...ur a pro in ur class and end game is near...

im at 77, and when ill be back in game ill continue on my lovely barb, even if id enjoy trying the new class just to know it a lil better...

ive had so much time with him that i wouldnt exchange him for no1 else b:pleasedb:cute

AND I CANT WAIT FOR DEMON CULTIVATION

im 88 and i will be going sage this weekend before TW against Calamityb:victory

MagicHamsta - Lost City · January 2010

end game be...so so far away.
xD

b:surrender
ah well...
Byaah!
xD

and me suppose psychics have one physical skill....
soulburn lol
xD
but it be something that the other person controls.
b:chuckle
and about 9 seconds but with a 30 second cooldown lol.

Ballistixz - Heavens Tear · January 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Psychics are meh classes. They dont get better at 59 which turned me off immediately. I remember getting to 59 on my wiz and seeing a small leap in strength. When i got my tt60 at 60 it was like a whole different class, and so many things to do and explore. When my psychic hit 60, it wasnt the same. I went against a lvl 80 psychic today. Didnt last long. Blade Tempest and he was down.

but i still wuvs you ChocolateLuv<3

thats mainly because the tides was a rushed class. they have no skills passed lvl 59 unlike wizzards. they have no sage/demon stuff atm and alot of there TT weapons are missing. blame it on a rushed expansion not the class itself.

give it some time and wait till the devs actually finish the class. also wizzards =/= psys. there completly diffrent and the way they use there spells are also diffrent. there skills are extremly powerfulf and some of the fastest channeling out there.

if u can get off more spells because of faster channeling/casting then u will in turn have more DPS out put then someone that takes a long time with channeling/casting and worries only about high dmg per hit. that is mainly what wizzards do, they focus on dmg per hit whether then Damage over time. psys are the opposite. some of there skills are less powerful but they are extremly fast and can thus get in more hits while a wizzard is still chaneling there skills.

also spells like disturb soul in a wiz vs psy fight will make the channel time of wizzards even more insanely long. also psy is not rly a pve class. alot of there skills are more gear towards PvP if u take a closer look at them. if a psy gets off a maxed disturbed soul on u while ur fixing to cast BID it will take u 7.2 seconds to channel it lol. thats way more then enought time to get off 2 or 3 skills AND cancel the channeling once u do. psy is not a class to be understimated. none of the new classes are. i keep telling ppl this but they always seem to think there inferior to the older classes when that is completly not true. both psys and sins are just as good as the older classes.

FranzKafka - Dreamweaver · January 2010

ChocolateLuv....hmmm he/she nasty psychic...well a few lvls higher than me but no excuse.Well haven't fought much against psychics so maybe I can save my pride there.
Still as psychic will goes higher in level i have to say is pure awesome seeimg bms and barb hitting you and you see tons of "resist"above your head(specially fist bms)priceless.
As in topic i "like" when people add extern things to skills.spark pots?come on what that has to do with my teoretical issue here.
I'm not you but I beat that if you were writting this you'd go like:" I take your spark pots and beat it with mag reduction or whatever ****" and so on until will be talking again about nixes.Point is" can you tell me why a wizard same lvl as me hits me for half the damage or even less that i hit him?no chi skills just normal ones.This in a test battle because(chocolateluv can confirm since if I use it he'll probably use it and better)a wizard will not even cast one spell if he has less than 4k hp.And yes arcane people get hit for 1k-1.7k on average normal hit.

Lyzzern - Lost City · January 2010

Euphy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well Wraith you'd have to compare Red Tide to Black Ice Dragon or whatever the wizard spell is called. Both are lv.59 - two spark - AoE - water aligned massive damaging spells.
Oh and by the way... with Wield Thunder I can hit 12,000 on a wood elite... and that's a cleric. Wield Thunder starts at lv.44 and doesn't require any sparks so yeah... *shrugs* I wonder what a maxed out tempest would do.

Since when a Cleric differs from a Wizard dmg wise? As far as I know Clerics and Wizards have same M. Atk/Mag and Wield Thunder hits as much as a Stone Rain, What you're doing is considering that ALL the clerics are Hybrid and none is Pure Mag.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

thats mainly because the tides was a rushed class. they have no skills passed lvl 59 unlike wizzards. they have no sage/demon stuff atm and alot of there TT weapons are missing. blame it on a rushed expansion not the class itself.

give it some time and wait till the devs actually finish the class. also wizzards =/= psys. there completly diffrent and the way they use there spells are also diffrent. there skills are extremly powerfulf and some of the fastest channeling out there.

if u can get off more spells because of faster channeling/casting then u will in turn have more DPS out put then someone that takes a long time with channeling/casting and worries only about high dmg per hit. that is mainly what wizzards do, they focus on dmg per hit whether then Damage over time. psys are the opposite. some of there skills are less powerful but they are extremly fast and can thus get in more hits while a wizzard is still chaneling there skills.

also spells like disturb soul in a wiz vs psy fight will make the channel time of wizzards even more insanely long. also psy is not rly a pve class. alot of there skills are more gear towards PvP if u take a closer look at them. if a psy gets off a maxed disturbed soul on u while ur fixing to cast BID it will take u 7.2 seconds to channel it lol. thats way more then enought time to get off 2 or 3 skills AND cancel the channeling once u do. psy is not a class to be understimated. none of the new classes are. i keep telling ppl this but they always seem to think there inferior to the older classes when that is completly not true. both psys and sins are just as good as the older classes.

when the game first came out, there were no 79 or 100 skills for any of the classes. ijs
Why would i use BIDS on a psychic?
Psys can be underestimated, i can play around with a level 80 one and not have any problem. Its fun doing BT and watching him freak and and using Psychic will. Btw, he can only beat me if he has sparks.

FranzKafka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ChocolateLuv....hmmm he/she nasty psychic...well a few lvls higher than me but no excuse.Well haven't fought much against psychics so maybe I can save my pride there.
Still as psychic will goes higher in level i have to say is pure awesome seeimg bms and barb hitting you and you see tons of "resist"above your head(specially fist bms)priceless.
As in topic i "like" when people add extern things to skills.spark pots?come on what that has to do with my teoretical issue here.
I'm not you but I beat that if you were writting this you'd go like:" I take your spark pots and beat it with mag reduction or whatever ****" and so on until will be talking again about nixes.Point is" can you tell me why a wizard same lvl as me hits me for half the damage or even less that i hit him?no chi skills just normal ones.This in a test battle because(chocolateluv can confirm since if I use it he'll probably use it and better)a wizard will not even cast one spell if he has less than 4k hp.And yes arcane people get hit for 1k-1.7k on average normal hit.

umm i have less than 4k HP and im LA and umm ChocolateLuv hits me for 800-1.5k soo umm i call BS. OH ya, btw my skills do 900-2k on chocolate and im LA so...ya...stop going against fail wizzies

EDIT:
Another thing, wizzies dont reach their full potential until level 100 so considering that im hitting lvl 102s for 9.8k i wonder how i will do when im actually pure mag with full 90 gear. The damage difference between 1 level is sometimes amazing. My problem with psy is, their damage doesnt increase dramatically or a point where they can actually take down a barb solo.

FranzKafka - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Please feel free to pm me in game for a few friendly tries.I'm not the challenging type but i love to learn things.You also have to consider how much time you had to master you wizard and how much time I had(1 year vs 1 month counts alot).As you said BS on forum is fruitless,better meet in game since we're on the same server(somewhere hidden because i can't be seen around an eq member I ahve a reputation you know...jk)and explain it pushing buttons.I'm sure you can take away 30 mins from whatever you'll be doing and I can do that too.

Ballistixz - Heavens Tear · January 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

when the game first came out, there were no 79 or 100 skills for any of the classes. ijs
Why would i use BIDS on a psychic?
Psys can be underestimated, i can play around with a level 80 one and not have any problem. Its fun doing BT and watching him freak and and using Psychic will. Btw, he can only beat me if he has sparks.

ima have to use ur own words against u and say stop going against fail psys. ive actually seen alot of psys go up against wizzards and beat them no problem and even vice versa. i have no idea on the kinds of psys u fight in ur server but ive seen psys easily beat wizzards without much of a problem.

also if u are going against 8x+ psys then more then likely they are just oracalers anyway. so ya, its a matter of going against a psy that actually knows what there doing. honestly disturbed soul will cripple a wizzard in a psy vs wiz fight especially when a psy already has naturally fast channel and cast times compared to wizzards. cast disturbed soul to make wizards take like 3-4 seconds to channel a spell (or in Blade tempests case 7.2seconds which is just insanely long to cast the spell), pop a few blasts in them and use landslide to cancel there channeling before they can even get it off and have them rechannel for another 7.2 seconds if ur fast enought.

also, if he does get it off soul of retaliation will just put the same status effect from BT on u and reduce its dmg on the psy. so in turn u will actually take MORE dmg if u were to use BT on a psy with soul of retaliation. combine that with the fact that he can just use psychic will after soul of retaliation did its work and u did almost no dmg at all with BT and the irony is that u were hit with ur own spell. so with this said i really think u were going up against a psy that had no idea what he was doing.

FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

when the game first came out, there were no 79 or 100 skills for any of the classes. ijs
Why would i use BIDS on a psychic?
Psys can be underestimated, i can play around with a level 80 one and not have any problem. Its fun doing BT and watching him freak and and using Psychic will. Btw, he can only beat me if he has sparks.

umm i have less than 4k HP and im LA and umm ChocolateLuv hits me for 800-1.5k soo umm i call BS. OH ya, btw my skills do 900-2k on chocolate and im LA so...ya...stop going against fail wizzies

EDIT:
Another thing, wizzies dont reach their full potential until level 100 so considering that im hitting lvl 102s for 9.8k i wonder how i will do when im actually pure mag with full 90 gear. The damage difference between 1 level is sometimes amazing. My problem with psy is, their damage doesnt increase dramatically or a point where they can actually take down a barb solo.

sry for disappoint mizuo, i turn into psy on pvp server =P
btw im enjoying it alot, cant wait for 79 skills and demon/sage info b:pleased

FranzKafka - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Come to the dark side Fire.I would have made him on a pvp server too but i'm one that likes to chat alot on faction chat and vent so since many people i know are on DW was hard to change so i didn't.

FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver · January 2010

FranzKafka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Come to the dark side Fire.I would have made him on a pvp server too but i'm one that likes to chat alot on faction chat and vent so since many people i know are on DW was hard to change so i didn't.

i know how u feel,,, i also miss alot of stuff from dreamweaver but, im a pvper
poor 77wiz will feel alone on that server xD

pit6 · January 2010

Euphy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well Wraith you'd have to compare Red Tide to Black Ice Dragon or whatever the wizard spell is called. Both are lv.59 - two spark - AoE - water aligned massive damaging spells.
Oh and by the way... with Wield Thunder I can hit 12,000 on a wood elite... and that's a cleric. Wield Thunder starts at lv.44 and doesn't require any sparks so yeah... *shrugs* I wonder what a maxed out tempest would do.

but 1 thing y i hitted a cleric 4 lvls higher then me harder wit my red tide then he did wit his tempest?

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

ima have to use ur own words against u and say stop going against fail psys. ive actually seen alot of psys go up against wizzards and beat them no problem and even vice versa. i have no idea on the kinds of psys u fight in ur server but ive seen psys easily beat wizzards without much of a problem.

also if u are going against 8x+ psys then more then likely they are just oracalers anyway. so ya, its a matter of going against a psy that actually knows what there doing. honestly disturbed soul will cripple a wizzard in a psy vs wiz fight especially when a psy already has naturally fast channel and cast times compared to wizzards. cast disturbed soul to make wizards take like 3-4 seconds to channel a spell (or in Blade tempests case 7.2seconds which is just insanely long to cast the spell), pop a few blasts in them and use landslide to cancel there channeling before they can even get it off and have them rechannel for another 7.2 seconds if ur fast enought.

also, if he does get it off soul of retaliation will just put the same status effect from BT on u and reduce its dmg on the psy. so in turn u will actually take MORE dmg if u were to use BT on a psy with soul of retaliation. combine that with the fact that he can just use psychic will after soul of retaliation did its work and u did almost no dmg at all with BT and the irony is that u were hit with ur own spell. so with this said i really think u were going up against a psy that had no idea what he was doing.

he knew what he was doing, i just knew how to counter every one bit of it. Lets not forget i played Psy up to 60 and i know what each and every one of their skills does and each weakness to each skill.
Fail wizards....plz....just stop.....

@Franz
im not sure about this week, im working on getting to sage before TW. I guess if i can find some time i will PM you.

Ballistixz - Heavens Tear · January 2010

i doubt he did. the way u describe these fights it just seems like a typical oracle noob match up. i doubt the psy knew what he was doing lol. especially if it was his first TW as a psy.

Azazel - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Mizuo gettin conceited over havin a lvl60 psy in 5 days and think he know all, psy is not hard to lvl that I agreed, but play it pve and pvp is different. For pve I only use a macro: basic skill and somtimes landslide/BoL, but for pvp...I need not explain. Soulforce increase as you lvl and havin better equipment, soul of vengance, soul of retaliation, soul of stunning, red tide, soul burn all based on soulforce. Also, psy skills are not completed and there are some glitches in psy skill waiting for fix/tweak

For ex:
Soulburn which supposedly only affect when the opponent atk, does affect when cleric IH him self -> quick death [confirmed]
Soul of retaliation does not work on Cleric's chromatic seal and only give the cleric slow effect [confirmed]
Disturbing soul cancel sutra effect [unconfirmed]
...
List goes on when there are psy out there actually playing their class

What I dont like about psy is the rtard time effect of their soul skills and cooldown of BoL
other than that, I gotta say I love them as much as playin a cleric, minus the "got bothered every hours for rez by Jay" *cough*

About lvling, you speak as a wiz playing more than 1 year with a wiz lvl 88, back when the game was hard w/o bh, blessin and stuff, I got this psy to 50 in 3 days w/o oracle and the same with Gabby with his barb, so no, it's the same for every1, we now 76/77 in raging tide =/

FranzKafka - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Just tanked rotflesh public quest boss all the fight.There were around 20 people maybe and a few fail venos and barbs.I was lucky to get a cleric around my same lvl in squad which i told to heal me.Stole agrro and tanked him in melee,had no problem to tank,haven't used genie/charm/pots or buble.Nobody stole agrro for me not even for a sec and the boss went down in 2-3 mins.Now for me was something great since I'm not used to robe classes and even more them tanking melee bosses but he fall like nothing.I know he is a week boss and all but as many said i don't have earth barrier so I'm squishy or I do low damage.Up yours kids psychics are here to stay and kick in some more.
Higher I go more powerfull it gets.The difference btwn the rest of the classes and psychics that if their skills end up at 11(with sage/demon)I get better with every bit of Soulforce.It's a big plus even if I only have now 10k+ Soulforce.

Shadowvzs - Lost City · January 2010

Azazel - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Mizuo gettin conceited over havin a lvl60 psy in 5 days and think he know all, psy is not hard to lvl that I agreed, but play it pve and pvp is different. For pve I only use a macro: basic skill and somtimes landslide/BoL, but for pvp...I need not explain. Soulforce increase as you lvl and havin better equipment, soul of vengance, soul of retaliation, soul of stunning, red tide, soul burn all based on soulforce. Also, psy skills are not completed and there are some glitches in psy skill waiting for fix/tweak

For ex:
Soulburn which supposedly only affect when the opponent atk, does affect when cleric IH him self -> quick death [confirmed]
Soul of retaliation does not work on Cleric's chromatic seal and only give the cleric slow effect [confirmed]
Disturbing soul cancel sutra effect [unconfirmed]
...
List goes on when there are psy out there actually playing their class

What I dont like about psy is the rtard time effect of their soul skills and cooldown of BoL
other than that, I gotta say I love them as much as playin a cleric, minus the "got bothered every hours for rez by Jay" *cough*

About lvling, you speak as a wiz playing more than 1 year with a wiz lvl 88, back when the game was hard w/o bh, blessin and stuff, I got this psy to 50 in 3 days w/o oracle and the same with Gabby with his barb, so no, it's the same for every1, we now 76/77 in raging tide =/

ok i got 8x barb 6x bm 8x cleric 9x wizz 99 archer 7x veno in 1year without any cash useing and oracle or etc and still i was slow. if i start faster my alts now all 80+ or maybe 90 XD (ok i have alts in another server too, pw ms/pw my) (its very depend if u play in pt's or soloing in most of time like me)

Soulburn which supposedly only affect when the opponent atk, does affect when cleric IH him self -> quick death [confirmed]

u mean if cleric heal him self then got dmg? and if he purify the soulburn? dont got 1 last dmg?

FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Azazel - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Mizuo gettin conceited over havin a lvl60 psy in 5 days
I got this psy to 50 in 3 days w/o oracle

WTF....
u have to be lying or u dont sleep....
no way u can go from 1 to 50 in 3days and wihtout oracles b:shocked

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · January 2010

Azazel - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Mizuo gettin conceited over havin a lvl60 psy in 5 days and think he know all, psy is not hard to lvl that I agreed, but play it pve and pvp is different. For pve I only use a macro: basic skill and somtimes landslide/BoL, but for pvp...I need not explain. Soulforce increase as you lvl and havin better equipment, soul of vengance, soul of retaliation, soul of stunning, red tide, soul burn all based on soulforce. Also, psy skills are not completed and there are some glitches in psy skill waiting for fix/tweak

For ex:
Soulburn which supposedly only affect when the opponent atk, does affect when cleric IH him self -> quick death [confirmed]
Soul of retaliation does not work on Cleric's chromatic seal and only give the cleric slow effect [confirmed]
Disturbing soul cancel sutra effect [unconfirmed]
...
List goes on when there are psy out there actually playing their class

What I dont like about psy is the rtard time effect of their soul skills and cooldown of BoL
other than that, I gotta say I love them as much as playin a cleric, minus the "got bothered every hours for rez by Jay" *cough*

About lvling, you speak as a wiz playing more than 1 year with a wiz lvl 88, back when the game was hard w/o bh, blessin and stuff, I got this psy to 50 in 3 days w/o oracle and the same with Gabby with his barb, so no, it's the same for every1, we now 76/77 in raging tide =/

if you consider just my wiz ya, but i also been playing cleric and archer at the same time i was playing my wiz.

FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

WTF....
u have to be lying or u dont sleep....
no way u can go from 1 to 50 in 3days and wihtout oracles b:shocked

Its not hard if you know what you are doing. The new tideborn quest chain gives tons of xp

Szol - Harshlands · January 2010

yeah and is lvl 51...

Psychic's damage

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