Psychic's damage
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Sorry guys, but in my world ur enemies are hidden and they will kill u before u know that, ur only counting duels. duels for me is nothing =P.0
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Risingson - Lost City wrote: »...Why do people keep insisting on testing Psychics in PvP by duelling ? It's just worlds appart. Those comparisons are worth nothing.
the duel was to test and compare damage.
I never had a chance to pvp against this psy yet cause he always PK at different times than i do.Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
...But you're on a PvE server.Risingson - 7x Psychic
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Risingson - Lost City wrote: »...But you're on a PvE server.
u can pk in pve severs...b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »u can pk in pve severs...b:chuckle
When you choose too.
PvP servers, you have to learn it from level 30. What works, what does not and how to survive. (Although, there are those times when you are just screwed regardless).0 -
Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »When you choose too.
PvP servers, you have to learn it from level 30. What works, what does not and how to survive. (Although, there are those times when you are just screwed regardless).
learn what? to hide ^^
my psy is in pvp server =P[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »COMPARISON TIME!
lvl 87 wiz vs lvl 80 psy
my gear = trash LA +3 wheel of life with 1 immac saph
psy gear = tt80 gold arcane 4 socket with immacs citrine/garnet mix and every single thing you can get at lvl 80 that costs a ton with a +5 lvl 80 soulorb with 2 perfect sapphires
I used pdef ornaments and unrefined rings
The psy hits me for 800 with his weakest skill at lvl 10 and 1.5k with his strongest skill at level 10.
I hit the psy for 900 with my will of the pheonix lvl 2
i hit the psy for 1.2k uncrit with blade tempest (he used psychic will to avoid the phys damage)
i hit the psy for 1.5k damage with a lvl 10 sandstorm
So, you are telling me psys dont suck right? Clerics hit me for more than 1.5k with their cyclone lvl 10 and dont forget, im LA. If i was arcane, that psy would be doing **** damage
also i was selfbuffed with stone barrier and the psy had all his buffs on.
If you want more information about these duels, lemme know
oh btw
the score count was
wiz- 2
psy- 2
if only i was arcane...Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »the duel was to test and compare damage.
I never had a chance to pvp against this psy yet cause he always PK at different times than i do.
One of the psyhic I fought also had all immac shards and I saw him yesterday again, he has a mix of +4 nd +5 refinement and his ornaments are super good. (including that robe of lvl45) What I dont like in what you were talking about is that this psychic was lvl80 and you were level87, the dmg reduction is big and you have more maxed skills at lvl87 including your ultis while the psychic dont.
I fought a LVL83 psychic, SAME LVL AS ME, in a PVP fight where use charm etc, the dmg he was doing to me was like 800+ nd even though I admit it I wasnt fighting better cuz Im not experienced in fighting psychics he won me 5 times in a row. Why? Cuz hes spells were so fast and he could spark so quick that made it hard for me to beat him with ultimate skills nd even my BT cant one shot him with 2k dmg cuz he has almost 4k HP. My BT is lvl4 which is fail at my lvl but I havent been playing much lately thats y I didnt have the chance to put it a nice lvl but still, this pvp fight didnt last enough time to kill this psychic with any ulti skill (I tested my ulti on a duel) so come talk to me about psy power in PVP when PVPED against one YOUR OWN LVL.
P.S. I would beat the **** out of this psychic if he didnt have so much HP nd I knew how to pk against one, but the thing is that psychics are far from being bad in pvp nd their dmg is decent enough =.=0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »COMPARISON TIME!
lvl 87 wiz vs lvl 80 psy
my gear = trash LA +3 wheel of life with 1 immac saph
psy gear = tt80 gold arcane 4 socket with immacs citrine/garnet mix and every single thing you can get at lvl 80 that costs a ton with a +5 lvl 80 soulorb with 2 perfect sapphires
I used pdef ornaments and unrefined rings
The psy hits me for 800 with his weakest skill at lvl 10 and 1.5k with his strongest skill at level 10.
I hit the psy for 900 with my will of the pheonix lvl 2
i hit the psy for 1.2k uncrit with blade tempest (he used psychic will to avoid the phys damage)
i hit the psy for 1.5k damage with a lvl 10 sandstorm
So, you are telling me psys dont suck right? Clerics hit me for more than 1.5k with their cyclone lvl 10 and dont forget, im LA. If i was arcane, that psy would be doing **** damage
also i was selfbuffed with stone barrier and the psy had all his buffs on.
If you want more information about these duels, lemme know
oh btw
the score count was
wiz- 2
psy- 2
if only i was arcane...
i kinda smell BS because ive seen psys do more then that to arcane wizzards with lesser refines. i rly cant take ur posts trust worthy after this one because i know for a fact psys hit harder then 900-1.5k dmg on wizzards with just +3 orbs. ima have to post a screenie once i get the chance to show.0 -
FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »learn what? to hide ^^
my psy is in pvp server =P
O_o
Who hides?0 -
Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »i kinda smell BS because ive seen psys do more then that to arcane wizzards with lesser refines. i rly cant take ur posts trust worthy after this one because i know for a fact psys hit harder then 900-1.5k dmg on wizzards with just +3 orbs. ima have to post a screenie once i get the chance to show.
Im a pure mag wizard nd psychic dmg ranges from 800-1.5k dmg with +5 lvl80 mold orb
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Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »O_o
Who hides?
the low lvls....from the higher lvls...b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »O_o
Who hides?
lvl 30s running and hiding from the high lvls trying to pk them i guess.0 -
FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »the low lvls....from the higher lvls...b:chuckleBallistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »lvl 30s running and hiding from the high lvls trying to pk them.
Pft
I have never hidden. Even at the hot spots and have gone back. Its a pain when you pk and alt and their main comes to get you. I like to go back though b:cute And tbh I do not get killed that often. Never did actually.
I just love it when a high 9x-101 takes 3-5 hits to kill me (not saying I do not get one-shot), it is epically pro! But 2.9k HP is not too much to work with when level gaps can be extreme, but that does not mean I have not killed 9x either !!b:chuckle0 -
Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »Im a pure mag wizard nd psychic dmg ranges from 800-1.5k dmg with +5 lvl80 mold orb
tahts cuz psys rock. b:laugh
everbody wiht brains knows they are the highest dpsers in game...we got fast skills+black voodoo(+22%dmg), and we have same magic as wizs
wizs best dps is pyrogram+gush (wihtout counting wiht sutra), pyro takes 1.5+0.8sec to cast which is actually a fail unless u demon but then u lose all chi that wizies need and the beautifull bids...
do the math....b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »Pft
I have never hidden. Even at the hot spots and have gone back. Its a pain when you pk and alt and their main comes to get you. I like to go back though b:cute And tbh I do not get killed that often. Never did actually.
I just love it when a high 9x-101 takes 3-5 hits to kill me (not saying I do not get one-shot), it is epically pro! But 2.9k HP is not too much to work with when level gaps can be extreme, but that does not mean I have not killed 9x either !!b:chuckle
white voodoo/psychic will
black voodoo
am i right?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »tahts cuz psys rock. b:laugh
everbody wiht brains knows they are the highest dpsers in game...we got fast skills+black voodoo(+22%dmg), and we have same magic as wizs
wizs best dps is pyrogram+gush (wihtout counting wiht sutra), pyro takes 1.5+0.8sec to cast which is actually a fail unless u demon but then u lose all chi that wizies need and the beautifull bids...
do the math....b:bye
I do 1k-2k dmg on psychics when I use undine strike b:cool Without undine strike I do 900-1.5k
P.S. Psychic ultimate skills never one shot me even when they are at decent level simply cuz they dont have any phy skill lol0 -
FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »white voodoo/psychic will
black voodoo
am i right?
Had neither on. was hilarious. It was all through the charm as I was ganked and stunned. Just stood there. Another time I did get Psychic Will off.
I did have it on yes.0 -
Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »I do 1k-2k dmg on psychics when I use undine strike b:cool Without undine strike I do 900-1.5k
P.S. Psychic ultimate skills never one shot me even when they are at decent level simply cuz they dont have any phy skill lol
psys wiht white voodoo and same lv as atker cant be 1 shot too...even wiht a demon/sage BT =P
plus we have psy will and some reflect/absorve skills...
Edit: i was talking at dps why u switched subject to wiz vs psy AGAIN!!! =P[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
JUst did a serious TW last night and even if at first was a bit chaotic and I was acting like a noob charging at sight(I played too much my barb so old habbits are hard to change)I got back on trail fast.I have to say Cleo is right and I when it happened to get one shot was from some cash shop user with heavy gear on.Also Heaven Flame was a bad guest,but still most of the times when I was looking at who killed me was usual somebody else not the bm.I was taken serious dmg and surviving(not that I haven't had my share of good deaths since the forces were equal pretty much)even from 2-3 ppl shooting.Bad things I learned was that tranquilizing orbs suck for mag class and I rather kite(i can cast 2 holy paths one after another so 12 secs of speedy gonzales around).I also saw that i was killing more mag classes than HA and another thing the most important actually:Boy I was wrong about tide spirit,The best thing ever I was casting like a mad man and if with normal casts your charm hardly keeps up with me hitting you with tide spirit your charm is safe but you are so dead.
As for who wants some advice for TWs as in the skills I used the most or found actually usefull.I found Soul of Silence much more usefull than vengence and always had it on,also soul of retaliation is a good all around life saver since it reduces alot the dmg from that nasty first hit most classes tend to do(best thing was getting hit by Dragoonz for 1k lol)and also avoids those annoying stun locks.Only works for one hit so holy path away find the wrong doer and strike back.I know this is for those new to Tws but if you get hit don't search for who hit you but holy path and you be the one to strike first on him.Most times was my kill and once you get used it0 -
Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »Where did this come from? Have you even played a Psychic? If not then come back when you have.
1) Psychic's at my level are killing players 9x.
2) Try one then talk to me.
3) Wizzies have one that has some and even then it does not do much but tickle.
4) Think I missed something.
Just to let you know, at my level I have killed players much higher then me after they have attacked first and that is all classes. At level 75 i was criting mobs in PQ for 60k.
I never played a Psy.
Since when doesn't BT do more than "tickle" have you ever BTed an AA your level with a Wizard? I think not bish.
At Lv. 75 you CRITTED mobs for 60k dmg... At Lv. 80 I DID NOT CRIT a Boss for 60k. kthxbye[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2508297003&dateline=1263853257[/SIGPIC]
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Miss_Cleo - Lost City wrote: »Pft
I have never hidden. Even at the hot spots and have gone back. Its a pain when you pk and alt and their main comes to get you. I like to go back though b:cute And tbh I do not get killed that often. Never did actually.
I just love it when a high 9x-101 takes 3-5 hits to kill me (not saying I do not get one-shot), it is epically pro! But 2.9k HP is not too much to work with when level gaps can be extreme, but that does not mean I have not killed 9x either !!b:chuckle
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Oh and BTW. uber Cash Shoppers rich biches Psys don't count to compare non-cash shopper poor Wizards. So if you have a +12 Weap, you do more dmg than a Wizard with a +0 kthxbye
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i play on pvp servers too, nothing special. Server =/= skillRisingson - Lost City wrote: »...But you're on a PvE server.
aqua cannon was 1.5k damage, spirit blast and aqua impact were 800-850. Everything else fell in between that.Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »i kinda smell BS because ive seen psys do more then that to arcane wizzards with lesser refines. i rly cant take ur posts trust worthy after this one because i know for a fact psys hit harder then 900-1.5k dmg on wizzards with just +3 orbs. ima have to post a screenie once i get the chance to show.FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »tahts cuz psys rock. b:laugh
everbody wiht brains knows they are the highest dpsers in game...we got fast skills+black voodoo(+22%dmg), and we have same magic as wizs
wizs best dps is pyrogram+gush (wihtout counting wiht sutra), pyro takes 1.5+0.8sec to cast which is actually a fail unless u demon but then u lose all chi that wizies need and the beautifull bids...
do the math....b:bye
sage stone rainSins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Wizards still have the highest spike dps lol.....two words: Essential Sutra.
b:chuckledarthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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Fights are not made of low level skill spamming. Demon Sandstorm and Glacial Snare. IJS[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2508297003&dateline=1263853257[/SIGPIC]
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sutra = pure scaryMagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »Wizards still have the highest spike dps lol.....two words: Essential Sutra.
b:chuckle
because
A: wizards hit like trucks
B: they are hitting really fastLyzzern - Lost City wrote: »Fights are not made of low level skill spamming. Demon Sandstorm and Glacial Snare. IJS
)>o.o)>Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
FranzKafka - Dreamweaver wrote: »For direct imediate dmg yes it's much stronger but 9k(at my lvl/equip)bleed over 9 secs isn't less and at lvl 10 the chance to get bleed is 80%.Still the dragon pwns
On topic as I said the second hit is spirit blast which is earth so it can be counted as average hit.
but also note the channel time of those skills while red tide has 1.8sec channeling and water dragon has 4.0sec0 -
Lyzzern - Lost City wrote: »I never played a Psy.
Since when doesn't BT do more than "tickle" have you ever BTed an AA your level with a Wizard? I think not bish.
At Lv. 75 you CRITTED mobs for 60k dmg... At Lv. 80 I DID NOT CRIT a Boss for 60k. kthxbye
did you hitted a boss 60k no crit on lvl 80? do u have a pic of tht? wut skill was it0 -
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FadeDaggers - Lost City wrote: »did you hitted a boss 60k no crit on lvl 80? do u have a pic of tht? wut skill was it
No I don't have pic of it, I didn't plan it. I did it 2 times, first on Ofotis with BT and second on Polearm with Sandstorm[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2508297003&dateline=1263853257[/SIGPIC]
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