Anniversary Pack Discussion

IDaun - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I do'nt think GMs have said anything on that... I /know/ the notes on it said "'till November". That's all we know.

Perhaps till end of November, then it'll be replaced by Christmas event? b:question

I doubt they will simply ever get rid of the Anni packs due to the items you can possibly get from them if you are lucky enough .

1. if you are lucky enough you can lunar equipment , frost equipment which saves you about a 500k repair bil from actually doing FCC cause the only bosses that drop anything there are the last 2 bosses and is about a 4-9 hour run saves time and money just to not do FCC.

Aerilya - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't know why this whole thread seems to be so negative. Most of my friends in game are all positive towards the packs. Sure, they don't like what it did to gold prices and a few other things, but they love the packs and the excitement of getting something from them. Frost weaps are down, the lobster is a common mount (very cool one, but still glitched), razor stings are more common now and so cheaper, teles, shards, socket stones are all cheaper.

Maybe more negative people are on the forums than positive ones? idk lol

Teles are generally 15-20k depending on where you look. While this definitely doesn't reflect the current gold price, it's NOT cheaper - when gold was normal, teles were at most 12k or so (fair price was 10k).

Socket stones are not cheaper. I've never seen them sold for less than 20k each since the packs first appeared. A fair value on socket stones would be 6-8k.

Not all of us want Razor Stings and Lobsters.

Frost weps are obtainable, not cheaper - there's a difference. Most Frost/Lunar weps being sold are sold at a price that most F2P players can't hope to afford, so this is not much of a comfort to them.

Shards are about the only things I can think of that are cheaper - assuming you find your tokens at a "reasonable" price.



...and in exchange for all that?

• Price of mounts multiplied by 5.
• Price of aerogear multiplied by 5.
• Price of all fashion items and pigments multiplied by 5.
• Price of safe, inventory, and pet bag extensions multiplied by 5.
• Price of charms multiplied by 5 (this one is huge for TW players and some others).
• Price of refining materials multiplied by 5.
• Price of perfect iron hammers multiplied by 5.
• Price of wedding packs multiplied by 5.
• Price of stat resets multiplied by 5.
• Buying mats from the CS is now completely impractical since you'll get a better deal from the ripoff catshops in West District. Wine prices are going up as a result of this combined with the demands of BH.
• Price of tomes goes up significantly (as most of their cost comes from tome pages which are found in the CS).
• And I probably forgot a few CS items which have also quintupled in price due to the packs.
• (EDIT: And let's not forget all those Venos who feel like they need to have Hercs to function in this game - they're looking at 100mil per Herc/Nix)

I don't know about you, but I'd rather not suffer through all of the above just so a Lobster or a Razor Sting can become slightly more obtainable.

The gold system was designed to give F2P players an avenue to obtain gold to spend on the things they want. What if I'd rather have a Chubbs than a Lobster? It'll run me 5mil at best... would've run me 7.5-10mil if PWI hadn't reduced mount prices (was Chubbs 15 gold or 20? can't remember).

I don't blame PWE for wanting to give out some awards, but they stopped being novel and started being annoying two months ago.

And as for "excitement" from the packs - are you honestly telling me you still get excited upon a single click of your mouse upon which you've basically just gambled 500k? Again, it was exciting the first week when we were all in the spirit of PWI's one-year anniversiary. After that, the meaning was lost and the packs only came to symbolize how out of touch the PWE execs are with their player base. It's like if it were Christmas every day - you'd love it for a week, then it would drive you insane.

EDIT: And before anyone bashes me about CS stuff "not being a necessity" - I remind you that nothing you get from the Anni Packs is any more of a necessity. -_-

Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Poor poor guys in this ever lasting painful perfect world. Feels bad to get noob-bashed by noobs with anni gear....b:cry

Yah, it really upsets me when I see those level 20s running around in Lunar gear they got from the packs....

It does not matter, when it comes down to it, sooner or later, people will have those and making lunar runs will be like making FF runs.. or TT runs.

Only unfair items in the packs, when it comes down to it, are the shards. At 5.4billion to make and over 30 days to combine just one, the high level shards creates a far larger imbalance than any gear the packs dropped.

But in all honesty, we had a discussion rite, look at the thread, its full of negativity.b:surrender

So why do we have anni packs?

I dont care almost the cash shoppers, I just, i dont know why anymore. Being lvl 90 and such it meh now. Anni packs are driving ppl insane. lol The gear it can give, ppl sooooo want it and blow everything on it. Good for you, it is your choice. Give us a break Devs. Anni packs were nice, but now its just sad....

I know these issues and ideas and concerns were already express by many others. Its the 16 of November now, any time when they will be out? Thats the golden question we alll have at the moment.

Its cold, dark and the future looks black. Give us final hope before its too late

Side Note: Think I am gonna take creative writing class now >______>

I'm done with Perfect World..

I've found other MMOs that don't break my bank or make it nigh-impossible to get ahead without breaking the wallet. I've decided not to spend another dollar on PWI and I just don't have the time to grind and farm endlessly when I can make better progress in a different game far quicker.

Its a great MMO, but it solicits money from its plyer base far too often in my opinion. Having anni packs that offer high grade items to anyone while people who chose not to spend have to work tirelessly to get them is proof of that. I've enjoyed my time here and hope the economy improves in the future.

ok, seriously, can we have a date for when they go off?

thats all i ask for

The pack was a good idea for the first month, because the prices of gold were regular and it allowed people to get some good stuff from it for a good price, which I though was the whole idea in the first place. All of a sudden, the company owners realize that they have a good thing going for them. They realized that they could keep selling the packs to people, because people love (for some reason) spending money on colourful pixels, and in my perspective it's pure greed. Once it finally kicked into people that the prices of gold were outrageous, and they weren't really getting their money's worth, these people started complaining. I believe that the owners of PWI don't really care about the people who don't like to spend money on this game, but only their customers. I understand that this is how they make their profit, but i find it ridiculous that the people who don't spend their paychecks on this game don't have a voice. In my opinion, this is an act of pure greed, and if PWI owners want to keep their supporters and loving community they will need to make some drastic changes, starting with respect over cash. I am sure the owners make enough money as it is without selling the packs, and I personally know a lot of proud players who quit because of this epic change in economy. And lets think about this, an anniversary pack can't go on all year, it isn't even logical. Sure, bring it back every year for one month, but don't destroy the community for money purposes, nothing good will be said about PWI this way.

How does it not help? I am clearly stating my opinion, and I have a strong belief that others share the same. You understand the problem, you know what is being done wrong, why not just hurry up and fix it? You will satisfy many, which will make you loved more by the lovers, and restore hope to the disbelievers.

The 2x weekend was a nice treat, as it would be if it were to continue, but it is still no excuse to keep the anniversary packs in the game. The 2x weekends will really just play a nice role in earning the supporters back, but it will not keep them. I udnerstand that every weekend can't be 2x weekends, and I do not ask for it, and I believe that it should eb the same with the anniversary pack. Too much of a good thing slowly becomes a downfall.

Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

>.> you all need to stop blaming greed on pwi seriously its moronic pwi didnt change gold prices it was the people selling gold and the people buying gold that made it 500k+ not the gms or the mods or the devs they put in an item alot of people like whether or you do. i dont spend real money often but i buy it with coin sometimes. i like to open the packs and yet i hate it at the same time but you know what you dont like getting tokens outta the packs dont open them end of it.

Human greed hasn't changed. The gold seller's, buyer's greed has never changed. Ever.

So what changed? PWI. Sales, anni packs, events-- everything that would make the average player want gold more.

To an extent, you're right. It was the people. But PWE started the events. And PWE can stop them. JJ... no sales for a while, etc. Stop it for a while, and watch prices fall as less and less people want to "BUY THAT NAOW!"

There's three parties at fault with gold prices. Buyers, sellers, and PWE. No more, no less. Stop thinking that the buyers or sellers just suddenly had a random upsurge of greed. That doesn't make sense.

GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »

WTF r u saying ?

is just devs fault of gold rising to +500k

why ?


lets take the april JJ event in example (i didnt bother on last1 cuz i knew how it worked)


u can choose to exchange 100k or 2 GS for the same pack...

-this means the price of GS is fixed at 50k each of in game coins

-but u have GS in CS too, and they cost Xsilver

-since i dont think any1 will GIFT away things they have payed with IRmoney
-NOW > Xsilver cost 50k in game

-there u are the gold price fixed by devs...

FOLLOW THE SAME PATTERN FOR ANNI.PACK, just instead of haveing 300k gold we'll have it at 500k

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b:angrydont sh.it us with ppl greed when u are the DEFINITION of greed,

and dont fool us telling we are a minority, cuz there have been many polls already and EVERY1 states that WE DONT WANT ANNI PACK PERMANENT.


cmon, POPULAR DEMAND ? calling em ANNIVERSARY pack, and still let em after months...

I DONT ASK MUCH, just STOP MAKING FOOL OF US, at least have the courtesy of say things right how they are...

but still, u plat the deaf and exploit from those life-less ppl that will follow the company till death...

i just wanna to have things clear, i dont give a damn if packs stays forever, i might purchase a few sometimes just for the fun of it...

BUT U HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH US, if u **** us then who will support the game...? OK, we have a nice expansion coming but after that wawe of enthusiasm things will be back to reality...

but for sure ull fill our mouth with someother double edged event which will make another huge number of player just fade away Cshoppers too...


U ARE LOSING RELIABILITY, AND UR EXPLOITING PLAYERS GREED TO EARN PROFIT, UR NOT MAKING A GOOD IMPRESSION IMO...
THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE, IF U WANNA MAKE THINGS LIKE THIS, JUST BE HONEST AND U WILL FIND THAT EVERY1 IS GONNA GAINb:bye

You definately do know how to complain.... every topic you post something negative.

Samthesmile - Sanctuary wrote: »

You definately do know how to complain.... every topic you post something negative.

your right, i post negative cuz they made me feel negative about this game... but just over ANNI PACKS


well, i have never follow the forum be4 my pc broke out...

so now im here aguing with you...


i really think that if a thread like this made over 2000 replies in less than a month this is a BIG matter, in spite of POPULAR DEMAND...

and is not like this 1000ppl are happy of what is going on

i feel FOOLED, and i would feel even worse if i didnt yell it out...

if i found something that i dont like i point it out, and if it became a common issue then im more than happy to have complained at 1st.

ur not a bigger man if u dont complain, ur just feeding theyr purpose (common YOU, not you Sam)



im italian, we have TONS of problem entrenched in our whole history...
i.e. MAFIA, is one of those, and it spread out more every day due to the conspiracy of silence instilled in every1 hearts...if we'd talk we'd be able to counter it, but we just dont


the women revolution came after years of exploiting the weak-sex. when the women took the place of the men into the factory (during WWII) and prove to be able to work the same way, they go pubblic protest(manifest) to be heared.

i can make other examples...but im just tired of silence


together we could meet to make things better, cuz u(PW) wont exist without us, and we wouldnt play without you...

but even GMs cant have a good speech with devs, seeing the effort that gm puts to make things better (i.e. bugs reporting) and the low result we got in game

Sanagah - Sanctuary wrote: »

I absolutely love how the GM's never say anything assuring that will allow us to know what is happening for sure. Instead, they just say a little something which is positive allowing us to believe that they actually give a damn. I don't even play PWI anymore, but i know what it is like to play a game that i really enjoy, just for it to come crashing down because of popular demand or greed. And yes, it is greed.

-_-

For the eight millionth time, the GMs don't make the decisions. They're told what they can and can't release by the PWE higher-ups. And they get paid to be GMs - it's their full-time job. So they kind of have a right to try and keep it.

That doesn't mean they can't treat us like human beings, though - and the GMs do. Spoons in particular does a great job of leveling with us within the confines of his job. :P

It's the execs up there who won't level with us. That's the problem.

The anniv packs...let's face it have lasted waaay too long. We all have a tendency to blame the G.M.s and other higher ups with all the rise in gold to rediculous rates and we try to find a way to vent out our anger. But here's the thing...

1) We do have a choice of getting certain things from the cash shop in which, in essence really aren't necessary to play the game and have a good time.
2) The packs should either go completely or there should be another alternative to getting the tokens of luck, such as simply paying in-game coinage.
3) There needs to be a higher coin alternative charge in the cash shop for those who do not wish to pay through zen.
4) Its a F2P game and you can make it that way, as long as you are not so concerned about getting all the flashy stuff.

The GMs have always been helpful as much as they can and they are not in charge of the final say when it comes to the anniv. pack. In the end, it's really up to you, as the player and consumer, to decide whether to buy those packs. Simply put, if people don't buy them or buy them rarely gold would go down, but really they do need to be removed.

It's also important to think about this...if we (as the player community as a whole) were to purchase so many of these packs to get all these mounts that are super-rare and whatnot...to me the game is about having fun and meeting new people, not show off money burned through a couple flashy pixels on the screen. b:victory

Thanks GMs for setting up this thread.