Rising Gold Prices

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes, they do. Lots of players spend real money just to sell it in the game. If there is no one to buy those items, they won't be spending all that extra money, making PWE lose money.

That's not a issue, cash shop user can now spend 5g buy the hammer and open the coins box to get 1m in game coins, there is no need to sell CS items in game to get coins.

RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am also fully aware that people should stop buying gold at inflated prices, and that if they do so, they will help ease the prices down in game.

No, it will just increase my profits, because I'll buy the Gold at the lower price and drive it right back up again, as will all my friends and family who are playing the game.

Lower Gold prices just means somebody somewhere keeps X amount of coin away from some other player who's selling it. In my opinion, anybody willing to fork over real-life cash is the player most deserving of said X amount of coin. That's why I'm happy to pay high Gold prices. I get the Gold I need to continue making the insane Jolly Jones profits, while somebody somewhere gets a tangible reward that says, "Thank you for supporting this game!"

RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary wrote: »

The PWI team is doing nothing but getting greedy, its been said before, and it continues to show stronger now than ever before.

From my perspective, they're being over generous and pissing off the people that actually work their way through the game. Look at how cheap beautiful shards are right now, or how cheap you can get a misty forest ring, or steppenwolf lord's cape. That all contributes to people having more coin on hand while pissing off the people that acquired these items before the tampering. So what if some cash shop items cost more now? They're not needed, and older mounts aren't going up in price.

Greed is you guys QQ'ing about prices on a game you CAN play very well for free.

I mean sure you can grind all you want, but if you want to do RB or TT you better have a charm for BB.

Pots

Zhenning??

That's not exactly playing now is it? It's a cash shopper's way to keep up with the people that play 14+ hours a day and would leave you with a horrible coin to xp ratio even if gold charms were back down in price. It's not even really that good for xp, and also screws you on rep.

doing WQ all day long will eventually drive you insane with monotony.

I have yet to see someone say that WQ isn't boring. If it's boring, why do it? It screws your coin to xp ratio.

So no. You can't really play the game for free.

Yes, you're problem is that you're not really playing the game: you're just putting time in to level. BB'ing is hardly playing. WQ is boring - not playing. CS is boring, and expensive - not playing. All these cost you more than the increase in price of charms. Imagine if your boring time was instead spent on harvesting herbs and mats, buying and selling, grinding.

And especially not if you're a cleric, which by the way is needed for all those things mentioned so you have to have one and you have to have one with a charm so even if you're playing without paying you're dependent on someone who is.

Only actually need clerics for last two bosses in fb69, Wurlord and other obscure bosses. Not sure about RB.

To all who say you can play without paying you're either a veno (Sorry Venos. I love ya, really do), lower level or just plain fooling yourself.

I have a level 82 wizard also, so I'm qualified to disagree.

I love how you say that something like BB isn't playing (although it's required for some bosses), but that harvesting mats is playing. Flying around and picking plants is playing. Cracks me up. How exciting is that? Not very I'd dare say, but who am I to **** in your wheaties if that's what gives you a kick.

I guess it's fair to say that people play for different reasons. However the content is structured such that to do it all you need to use cs items. Charms and guardian angels most specifically. If you're on a PK server then you know why. If you're a cleric or a barb you know why. Never played a wizard so I can't speak for them, but I know plenty on PvP servers who also use charms and if they don't they get hosed eventually. (By PvP servers I have characters on both HL and LC hence my reference to plural)

In any event I never felt the need to use a charm until I started doing TT runs. As a cleric BB is mandatory for the Drum Boss. Can't get around it. Pots are a risky move with BB. I've seen people successfully keep BB going with event pots, but more often then not they loose it before the boss is dead. I've been in a few party wipes where the other cleric said they'd BB and I saw their mp drop showing they don't have a charm then wham! Wipe. Of course now I stare at the other clerics mp in case they are potting and don't use sparks so I can toss up bb if theirs drops. Incidentally I've never had BB drop on me when I have a charm.

With regard to zhenning. I'll agree 100% with you. I won't zhen because all it does is supplement other players with exp while it drains my charm. No thanks.

As for my rep I think it's hard to question my tactics so far. While other may certainly have more then I do, at 4200 rep at my current level I think I'm better then most.

To each their own I guess. If you're happy doing what you do then I can't really question it. It's what each person takes from a game that makes or breaks their experience. I know though as a cleric you're screwed without a charm for the tasks you want/need to do and for PvP on a PvP server.

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

People openly admitted to being greedy as hell, and are trying to drive up prices even furthur in the name of greed. This is against what most players want if you greedy morons would read.

It will be impossible for this game to stay running if PWE continues to let people like you exist. You just jump from game to game, killing them off one by one. You don't care if one dies, you just go to another and do the same thing. This game is on the fast track to its own end at this point because of people like you.

Thankfully, I have other mmos lined up already for when this one dies out because of player greed.

You're the most openly greediest poster I've come across here. People tend to nitpick in others faults they have in themselves (when you point the finger, 4 are pointed back). You want people to sell for less than what they can get for YOU. You want people to not take advantage of low prices so YOU can. Merchanting is an integral part of the game. You want others to purposely fail at that part so YOU can succeed. Do you want to work for what you got? -No: you want others to give you or you'll call them greedy.

I have no problems with the rising gold prices. Maybe it will drive away the greedy people who think low gold prices are necessary to enjoy this game. The greedy people who haven't put a single RL dollar into the game and expect everything in return.

I have my own issues with them changing NPC prices, but that's another story.

GREAT, i just got to level 50.
Now i need a hammer.

BUT IT WILL COST ME 1.2m ALMOST ON DREAMWEAVER.

ty, i need to grind for one week just to open the box, then i dont need the weapon anymore.
Jippi, im so happy any this freaking gold prices.

That was my flame, now i feel good again.

Its 5 dollars. Really that's not that much money. Get a prepaid card for 10..or heck 20 dollars. Buy the hammer, get a charm pack and start grinding..Heck you could sell the gold instead if you wanted. b:chuckleb:laugh

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Its 5 dollars. Really that's not that much money.

Maybe not to you. Some of us are on a gaming budget of $0. And yet, I do fine for coins. I'm just glad Jolly Jones is back and printing more money. He's like a broken ATM!

Aside: woo hoo, more furlough days.
At least PWi will give me something to do. xD

TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »

the problem is:

this is a F2P MMO and when u are at high level to be at least decent compared to other players u need golds and u end up by using more real life cash than in a P2P

and that is bad

but yeah I got this far without using golds at all... (but I bought and used so many CS items that I don't wanna imagine how much it would have costs if I bought all of them with my own euros) but it requires to stay at the computer 24/24h and sometimes it's still not enough

High gold price hurt higher level non cash spending players the most, and those players are whom spend a lots of time in game.

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't think they're on sale anymore...are they?

According to the announcements the sales end as follows:

The following Charm Packs will be avaliable starting July 29th at 1:00am PST and ending on August 12th during maintenance!

Jolly Old Jones:


Jolly Old Jones is back in that Jolly mood again! He'll be in town until August 11th! Players will have a chance to exchange coins or Guardian Angels to Jolly Old Jones for one of two things:

So the answer is yes the "should" still be on sale.

The problem is, of course you people are too freaking greedy to realize it, all you care about is getting rich.

1: Prices go up based on greed.

2: Old players quit the game due to prices

3: New players come to the game, see the prices, and leave.

4: Old players leave, new players don't show up, game dies.

Reselling kills games. I've been playing mmos other than this one. So far, they have all already died out because of player greed. JD just came out and it won't last long, PWI is falling apart already.

If PWE wants to keep running their games, they need to get it through their heads that greed itself needs to be bannable. They also need to start actually enforcing their ToS for once. I can do pretty much whatever I want and I won't get banned. I see evidence to support that DAILY.

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The problem is, of course you people are too freaking greedy to realize it, all you care about is getting rich.

1: Prices go up based on greed.

2: Old players quit the game due to prices

3: New players come to the game, see the prices, and leave.

4: Old players leave, new players don't show up, game dies.

Reselling kills games. I've been playing mmos other than this one. So far, they have all already died out because of player greed. JD just came out and it won't last long, PWI is falling apart already.

If PWE wants to keep running their games, they need to get it through their heads that greed itself needs to be bannable. They also need to start actually enforcing their ToS for once. I can do pretty much whatever I want and I won't get banned. I see evidence to support that DAILY.

Hmm...

1.) Prices go up because of Supply and demand
2.) Using definitives in an answer is not always good. Some old players may quit. And that's their choice.
3.) New players come and go for many different reasons. Some even stay.
4.) People will still be around.


Now i do agree that Gold prices are at market high's yes. But people are still buying. They will not fall until one of two things happen.

1.) People stop buying gold with coins. This will force gold sellers to lower the cost. This would be the best way to go about things. Everyone would have to work together and only put in bids to buy at a low cost of coinage.

2.) PWI doesn't have a sale for a week or two. No release of new mounts/fashion etc....this is a short term result. Because as soon as a new sale and releases happen Gold will naturally go up because of demand.

Viper_girl - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The Jolly Jones event is a net coin injection into the economy no matter how you look at it.

I think I disagree with your "no matter how" quip. For example, I expect lots of people wind up buying new skills after Jolly Jones events. And I imagine I could think of some other, analogous, issues if I cared.