Charging for Ressurection

I'm not sure what the concern is about. It's not like Clerics want to revive every person who dies. If you don't ask for a revive, no one's going to care. On the other hand, if you asked for one and went back to town instead, that's a bit frustrating.

If I **** up and die when I'm on my own, I'll only consider askin' anyone that's within a close range of me. I don't ever ask someone to travel to ress me; that'd be uncool, I think.
Like pilas said...if I was a tank and some random guy asked me to travel a distance to tank somethin'...why should I go out of my way? But I mean, if I'm nearby him and it's no effort to me, then w/e, why shouldn't I?

It's expensive to get a good ress, sure...but it's a one-time payment you make, and you pay that whether you ever use it or not. If they're right there; it's no effort, why not? (Sayin' ''why not'' we're excludin' the ''REZ PLZ'' people and another other reasons why you wouldn')
But I also don' see it fair on the ress'er in question to ever have to go out of their way for this, unless they offer. If you died far out, miles away from a town, w/o a cleric party member nearby or w/e; your own fault, right?
Unless you're willin' to wait indefintely till some Cleric chances upon you...thas hardcore...

Stupid...but hardcore...

Dark_Arbnger - Lost City wrote: »

For those of you that do randon **** like adding a cleric to your friends list just to PM them for a rez when there half way across the map your stupid, you could takethe XP loss and grind it backwithin 30mins - 1hour

Quoted for truth b:chuckle

Doing a quest, you see a BM (admit it it's always BM's like 99% of the time) begging for help with his, so you team up for all of 5minutes to both do it, then he friend invites. You leave group, go on your away, and behold an hour later:

"hay can u come rez me at xxx xxx?"

If you say yes, they'll bug you forever. If you say no, they'll go bat **** crazy and call you every name under the sun.

We all play our clerics relatively the same. For friends and guildies we'll go help out 99% of the time. For random strangers, if you're not within 60 seconds flying of me, you won't get rezzed so respawn, buy xp scrolls, be more carefull.

Wow.... Charging for rez is the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Don't play the class if your gonna be an azz! Either do it from the kindness of your heart or don't do it at all. I always receive a huge thank you if I rez someone + I buff them as well. Just keep in mind, alot of these ppl, you will run into again. It might be a Perfect World, but it's a small one!!

As far as running to the other side of the map to rez a stranger. I find if you don't answer them at all, you can avoid all the bs of name calling and hurting your little delicate cleric feelings... b:chuckle

If everyone charged for their classes' ability, what the hell kind of game would we be playing, GW b:angry

Whenever I am grinding or doing a quest, and someone on local chat asks for a revive, i usually make an good effort to help them, unless I am on an exp scroll, or killing a boss.

Whats more, when i revive people, I heal them, and give them buffs.

I don't think that Clerics should charge for a revive, it is nothing more then a very nice gesture. I know that we have to pay valuable coin/spirit to get the skills, but charging for our services will make us more enemies then friends.

Nothing is worse then reviving someone, and having them turn around and PK you for being a jerk.

I tend to ask someone needing a ress for any mats/DQ items I might require. If they don't have them, I'm still going to ress them. If they do actually die regularly and never donate, I won't feel guilty telling them I don't want to ress them when they're halfway across the map.

Onishi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Never said it wasn't fair to charge a res, was saying you better be prepared to give that 10 minute speech every time someone dies, and still be considered a jerk, and more likely then not even after your 10 minute speech, the dead person is still going to run off without paying if it's outside of a party, and inside a party most likely no-one is going to back you on it.

Fair yes.
Fair from an outside point of view, no.

On top of that, if you start charging for res, people will start remembering your name, and you'll have a hard time being asked on FBs, TTs, FCs etc, because rumours spread like wildfire. -shrug-

I think it's fair to say that maxing your res for the tanks/DDs who help you fb/TT is your way of appreciating their help. While it's true that healers are vital to any party, you still need the tank so you don't die and a DD so you burn less MP overall because they make your run go faster. The tanks have a huge repair cost keeping your party safe from the boss, and the DDs invest lots of money into improving their damage. Think about it...archer's HP debuff cuts down boss HP by 15%. That's 15% less MP you have to burn healing the tank. Also a good DD would intentionally aggro a mob attacking a cleric to save the healer. If your res is maxed, you make their sacrifice more worthwhile ^_~ (and they'd probably be more willing to take the death for you if they lose less xp for it). Like...unless I have very little faith in the cleric my TT party, I'd just hit whatever mob is attacking the healers and hopefully I live xD

As for random res outside of your guild/party.....that's your own choice. Personally if I were a cleric, I wouldn't do it except for guildies/friends

Besides... I dont see many archers, bm and barbs partying you and giving buffs... they just ASK you for buffs (in case of random players)....
Being nice is one thing, helping is another, being taken as idiot is a completely differente matter.

Lol I usually get whisped for revive or buff and if they ask for buff I say "got your buff atm card?" then they say lol and I buff them

At the time of writing this - I'm only LVL 26 Cleric - I realize I haven't been evolving as effectively as I could/should have been..... Is this "my fault" that learning PWI is an evolving process?

I took on revive as early as possible in order to protect members of any squad I enter. If you saw my movement and defense tactics you'd be rolling on the floor with laughter. In caves I run into walls, trapped by mob as a result of running in panic.

I admit it and I concede that those weaknesses make me a burden to my squad at times. I know it and I feel it.

BUT- As a squad member I am continually watching my other members, attempting to stay on top of their health.

Problem is, more times than none I am in squad with more advanced players. They move faster than me, they combat faster than me and in my effort to keep up with them and their needs "I" miss out on drops, I burn up my MP and HP at great expense to me. I find my self broke and little MP and HP at my own disposal when I am solo-ing.

As I said b4, I am often squadding with much higher LVL players, therefore the MOBs LVL's are typically "Much" higher than my LVL.
When buffing my squad members I get attacked from behind, just when my resources are low - Over and over again by these high LVL mob's and find myself getting killed b4 I can react in time to save myself!

Very few squad members pay any attention to the Cleric and whether they need covered or rescued. The few that have in my case, have become the friends I add to my list.

"Most" of the time I get portalled back to town cause no one can res me!
"I" am the one losing exp every time I get portalled.
"I" am the one burning through my HP and MP for little to nothing in return. Often the squad will disband b4 "I" have an opportunity to get the MOB's I need.

Yeah, the role of Cleric is a lonely and extremely expensive one if your not squadding with friends.

I've always been grateful when someone ress'd me - grateful enough to pay a modest gratuity.

Someone countered the idea of Clerics getting paid for ress by questioning "should archers be paid for the arrows they use?" etc etc.
That's comparing apples to oranges, the personal expense to Clerics to ress beyond the comparable expenses incurred offensively. Clerics attack match the arrows of archers etc. etc.

Clerics expense buffing is also equivalent to other players offensive devices.

So, Clerics "DO" burn much more expense in squad with little return, comparatively speaking!

Actually, I seem to hear a greater sense of negative opinion for the value of Cleric "except" when they have to save someones butt!

Theres no shortage of "thank you's" flying on the battle field - but that doesn't compensate us allow us to advance equally with the others.

Seriously considering starting over, with Full attack Cleric - and deal with the attitudes when I refuse to respond as healer!

Onishi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Well unless there's a method that I don't know of, you can't chose what level of res you give someone, if you have level 10 res, every res you cast is level 10. If there were a way to do it I would love it, #1 because when someone dies from their own stupidity, I would really like to be able to make the punishment of death sting more, but not have to punish one of my friends who also died for that idiot's mistake. Also I would love to be able to scale it back so that res didn't cost me 885 MP in TW, when XP loss is irrelevant.

Also those talking about party roles, I don't think the person is referring to people in your party. I think he's talking more along the lines of if you are in an area and you hear that familiar "Is there a cleric in the area" yell from a corpse.

^ I don't know what kind of squad members do you have, but I usually squad w/ guild and friends, and they never leave me out to die. The BM and barbs know how to take agro, etc.

Also for random buffs, I find that most of the 30+ players say thanks, and the below 30's don't because they don't know what happened.

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i dont think you should charge for ress instead ask for a favor like hey can you help me on this quest or can do you have... i had clerics that asked for help and herbs and i give it to them. Sometimes i give what little money i have(wiz is VERY poor) but they dont take it its usually just help me kill that guy over there(mini boss) or whatever mo