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I was going by the stated server times, and TW event time. So you're saying the server is not on GMT/UTC?sylenthunder wrote: »So the biggest complaint with Harshlands is the event times.
The main TW is at 8pm server, so this means that it would change from 8pm Eastern to 4pm Eastern. Pretty much the same times for NW also.
The afternoon TW is at 2pm, which would make it 10am Eastern.
The early morning TW (rare) is at 9am, which would make it 5am Eastern.
Overall, since these all occur on Saturday and Sunday, the only real issue will be with the Friday NW battles occurring while most people are still at, or getting off, work; and also with the very rare 5am TW time slot. (Which is really only ever seen in the first week or two of the TW season.)
Basically, now your evening has been freed up to go out with friends, or to a late movie. It also makes the Sunday NW way better for those who have jobs to go to on Monday morning.
Are you guys looking at the times in the right direction? I keep seeing people complain about early morning battles.
This is nothing like what Europeans playing on East/West coast servers have had to put up with, where their TW times were 3am for a West coast server, or midnight for a East coast server.
you are wrong by 2 hours. tw was 2am/5am. not midnight/3am.
it is 10:17am in middle europe as i speak and 01:17am on the west coast.
Also, you say "West Coast". Harshlands is an East Coast server.0 -
b) you know what HL RW is like? every faction meets somewhere for a mass free for all and the carts/bases get ignored.
you dont need RW for that....
I feel the need to correct you, Factions target Bases/Carts FIRST and once all the kills are met THEN the factions have a mass free for all pvp, The reason there are usually bases/carts left on the map at the end is because Factions target Bases and Carts in the lands of the faction with the most TW lands as these bases/carts give the most points.
Please be sure you know what you are talking about before posting information about another server.
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Anyone can tell me does maint start in 16 hours or in 40 hours?
It says on August 4th but not in what time of day0 -
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@mintsummer
So the scheduled merge is tomorrow, is there any news at all regarding the DawnGlory (Harshlands + Morai - event + TW times) yet? Been waiting to hear anything on this from you guys for almost a week now.0 -
I know that,but last week maint was 1 day earlyer(on Monday 23H-Tuesday 02:00) or something like that,so just curious if it is again on Monday-Tuesday(like last week) or its from Tuesday-Wednesday(like usual)
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sylenthunder wrote: »
I was going by the stated server times, and TW event time. So you're saying the server is not on GMT/UTC?sylenthunder wrote: »So the biggest complaint with Harshlands is the event times.
The main TW is at 8pm server, so this means that it would change from 8pm Eastern to 4pm Eastern. Pretty much the same times for NW also.
The afternoon TW is at 2pm, which would make it 10am Eastern.
The early morning TW (rare) is at 9am, which would make it 5am Eastern.
Overall, since these all occur on Saturday and Sunday, the only real issue will be with the Friday NW battles occurring while most people are still at, or getting off, work; and also with the very rare 5am TW time slot. (Which is really only ever seen in the first week or two of the TW season.)
Basically, now your evening has been freed up to go out with friends, or to a late movie. It also makes the Sunday NW way better for those who have jobs to go to on Monday morning.
Are you guys looking at the times in the right direction? I keep seeing people complain about early morning battles.
This is nothing like what Europeans playing on East/West coast servers have had to put up with, where their TW times were 3am for a West coast server, or midnight for a East coast server.
you are wrong by 2 hours. tw was 2am/5am. not midnight/3am.
it is 10:17am in middle europe as i speak and 01:17am on the west coast.
Also, you say "West Coast". Harshlands is an East Coast server.
when i tell you the difference between Morai servertime and west coast, it should not be hard for you to then calculate the difference between east and west, right? i expected an american to know that, sorry
but yeah, tw on morai is 8pm utc+1 and its 6 hours before HL(east) and 9 hours before LC(west).noctusvenator wrote: »b) you know what HL RW is like? every faction meets somewhere for a mass free for all and the carts/bases get ignored.
you dont need RW for that....
I feel the need to correct you, Factions target Bases/Carts FIRST and once all the kills are met THEN the factions have a mass free for all pvp, The reason there are usually bases/carts left on the map at the end is because Factions target Bases and Carts in the lands of the faction with the most TW lands as these bases/carts give the most points.
Please be sure you know what you are talking about before posting information about another server.
how i love the arrogance in this forum.
I DO PLAY on harshlands and i have seen it.
and trust me, even if the new servers would be PVP, RW would still end in 5 minutes due to the high amount of factions trying to kill a base.
Morai alone has been there.
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sylenthunder wrote: »
I was going by the stated server times, and TW event time. So you're saying the server is not on GMT/UTC?sylenthunder wrote: »So the biggest complaint with Harshlands is the event times.
The main TW is at 8pm server, so this means that it would change from 8pm Eastern to 4pm Eastern. Pretty much the same times for NW also.
The afternoon TW is at 2pm, which would make it 10am Eastern.
The early morning TW (rare) is at 9am, which would make it 5am Eastern.
Overall, since these all occur on Saturday and Sunday, the only real issue will be with the Friday NW battles occurring while most people are still at, or getting off, work; and also with the very rare 5am TW time slot. (Which is really only ever seen in the first week or two of the TW season.)
Basically, now your evening has been freed up to go out with friends, or to a late movie. It also makes the Sunday NW way better for those who have jobs to go to on Monday morning.
Are you guys looking at the times in the right direction? I keep seeing people complain about early morning battles.
This is nothing like what Europeans playing on East/West coast servers have had to put up with, where their TW times were 3am for a West coast server, or midnight for a East coast server.
you are wrong by 2 hours. tw was 2am/5am. not midnight/3am.
it is 10:17am in middle europe as i speak and 01:17am on the west coast.
Also, you say "West Coast". Harshlands is an East Coast server.
when i tell you the difference between Morai servertime and west coast, it should not be hard for you to then calculate the difference between east and west, right? i expected an american to know that, sorry
but yeah, tw on morai is 8pm utc+1 and its 6 hours before HL(east) and 9 hours before LC(west).
Exactly. There would be no reason for the server time to be UTC.
At first the two EU servers were defined as "french one" and "german one" and both France and Germany are UTC+1.
Note also that appart from France and Germany, the most part of european countries use UTC+1 anyway.
So to convert time you need to use -6 or -9 and also be careful to saving times that might not be done on same weeks (There are a lot of Canadian players on Lothranis/Morai that got issues with that)0 -
Again with apples to oranges.sylenthunder wrote: »
I was going by the stated server times, and TW event time. So you're saying the server is not on GMT/UTC?sylenthunder wrote: »So the biggest complaint with Harshlands is the event times.
The main TW is at 8pm server, so this means that it would change from 8pm Eastern to 4pm Eastern. Pretty much the same times for NW also.
The afternoon TW is at 2pm, which would make it 10am Eastern.
The early morning TW (rare) is at 9am, which would make it 5am Eastern.
Overall, since these all occur on Saturday and Sunday, the only real issue will be with the Friday NW battles occurring while most people are still at, or getting off, work; and also with the very rare 5am TW time slot. (Which is really only ever seen in the first week or two of the TW season.)
Basically, now your evening has been freed up to go out with friends, or to a late movie. It also makes the Sunday NW way better for those who have jobs to go to on Monday morning.
Are you guys looking at the times in the right direction? I keep seeing people complain about early morning battles.
This is nothing like what Europeans playing on East/West coast servers have had to put up with, where their TW times were 3am for a West coast server, or midnight for a East coast server.
you are wrong by 2 hours. tw was 2am/5am. not midnight/3am.
it is 10:17am in middle europe as i speak and 01:17am on the west coast.
Also, you say "West Coast". Harshlands is an East Coast server.
when i tell you the difference between Morai servertime and west coast, it should not be hard for you to then calculate the difference between east and west, right? i expected an american to know that, sorry
but yeah, tw on morai is 8pm utc+1 and its 6 hours before HL(east) and 9 hours before LC(west).
According to PWE, the server time for Morai is UTC, not UTC+1.
My calculation was to the East coast, not to the West coast. UTC -5 would be the East coast, so 5 hours behind Morai.
The times you gave are for what it would be on the West Coast vs Europe, but it's an hour off because you're counting UTC+1 as server time.
So, anyone on Morai server can confirm if server time is UTC (as PWE states), or is actually an hour off?0 -
sylenthunder wrote: »
Again with apples to oranges.sylenthunder wrote: »
I was going by the stated server times, and TW event time. So you're saying the server is not on GMT/UTC?sylenthunder wrote: »So the biggest complaint with Harshlands is the event times.
The main TW is at 8pm server, so this means that it would change from 8pm Eastern to 4pm Eastern. Pretty much the same times for NW also.
The afternoon TW is at 2pm, which would make it 10am Eastern.
The early morning TW (rare) is at 9am, which would make it 5am Eastern.
Overall, since these all occur on Saturday and Sunday, the only real issue will be with the Friday NW battles occurring while most people are still at, or getting off, work; and also with the very rare 5am TW time slot. (Which is really only ever seen in the first week or two of the TW season.)
Basically, now your evening has been freed up to go out with friends, or to a late movie. It also makes the Sunday NW way better for those who have jobs to go to on Monday morning.
Are you guys looking at the times in the right direction? I keep seeing people complain about early morning battles.
This is nothing like what Europeans playing on East/West coast servers have had to put up with, where their TW times were 3am for a West coast server, or midnight for a East coast server.
you are wrong by 2 hours. tw was 2am/5am. not midnight/3am.
it is 10:17am in middle europe as i speak and 01:17am on the west coast.
Also, you say "West Coast". Harshlands is an East Coast server.
when i tell you the difference between Morai servertime and west coast, it should not be hard for you to then calculate the difference between east and west, right? i expected an american to know that, sorry
but yeah, tw on morai is 8pm utc+1 and its 6 hours before HL(east) and 9 hours before LC(west).
According to PWE, the server time for Morai is UTC, not UTC+1.
My calculation was to the East coast, not to the West coast. UTC -5 would be the East coast, so 5 hours behind Morai.
The times you gave are for what it would be on the West Coast vs Europe, but it's an hour off because you're counting UTC+1 as server time.
So, anyone on Morai server can confirm if server time is UTC (as PWE states), or is actually an hour off?
I did just above and explained why UTC would be complete nonsense
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DW whit morei
and we want morei time coz is good for alot ppls
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mintsummer wrote: »If there is any event sensitive to time zone, we will try to schedule it multiple times so that most players can have fun.
This shows how little PWE knows about this. Every event is sensitive to time zone as they start at server time and server times are based on time zones.
As it stands now the only even that I can do, is the late TW war and sunday NW, and that is IF I am home which most times I am not at that time. Every event mon-fri starts at 8pm or 8:55pm. With the server time switch I will miss all of those because I will still be at work.mintsummer wrote: »Meanwhile, we are working on multiple time slots of TW/ Cross Server PVP/NW. Stay Tuned!
Sure we will stay tuned. Just like we stayed tuned for the replacement for DQ rewards. And all the other **** ups that you never took care of.
Lets be serious here for a minute. You actually think that you guys are able to do this?
You have yet to put on a successful log in event.
You have had 4 day roll backs when installing hew hardware.
More then 1 server has had roll backs.
When morai had their first merger, people lost items.
You have told lies just to keep people playing in hopes that you do what you say you will do.
People have said this game is dying, this year has been proof of that (lay offs and now merger).
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sylenthunder wrote: »
Again with apples to oranges.sylenthunder wrote: »
I was going by the stated server times, and TW event time. So you're saying the server is not on GMT/UTC?sylenthunder wrote: »So the biggest complaint with Harshlands is the event times.
The main TW is at 8pm server, so this means that it would change from 8pm Eastern to 4pm Eastern. Pretty much the same times for NW also.
The afternoon TW is at 2pm, which would make it 10am Eastern.
The early morning TW (rare) is at 9am, which would make it 5am Eastern.
Overall, since these all occur on Saturday and Sunday, the only real issue will be with the Friday NW battles occurring while most people are still at, or getting off, work; and also with the very rare 5am TW time slot. (Which is really only ever seen in the first week or two of the TW season.)
Basically, now your evening has been freed up to go out with friends, or to a late movie. It also makes the Sunday NW way better for those who have jobs to go to on Monday morning.
Are you guys looking at the times in the right direction? I keep seeing people complain about early morning battles.
This is nothing like what Europeans playing on East/West coast servers have had to put up with, where their TW times were 3am for a West coast server, or midnight for a East coast server.
you are wrong by 2 hours. tw was 2am/5am. not midnight/3am.
it is 10:17am in middle europe as i speak and 01:17am on the west coast.
Also, you say "West Coast". Harshlands is an East Coast server.
when i tell you the difference between Morai servertime and west coast, it should not be hard for you to then calculate the difference between east and west, right? i expected an american to know that, sorry
but yeah, tw on morai is 8pm utc+1 and its 6 hours before HL(east) and 9 hours before LC(west).
According to PWE, the server time for Morai is UTC, not UTC+1.
My calculation was to the East coast, not to the West coast. UTC -5 would be the East coast, so 5 hours behind Morai.
The times you gave are for what it would be on the West Coast vs Europe, but it's an hour off because you're counting UTC+1 as server time.
So, anyone on Morai server can confirm if server time is UTC (as PWE states), or is actually an hour off?
Sylen, I have no idea what UTC is, but I do know that the server is synched with my own time, and my time is GMT+1 (I live in Italy, so that puts me 1 hour ahead of Greenwich, which is the same time as France. Which should be the place where the server is physically located). hope this helps0 -
It's happening! Maintenance discussion thread has been posted!
No news about multiple events or different TW time slots for the EU server. GG0 -
On future maybe extend the char slots to 16? double account stash, friendlist, black list, etc...
Even could make a stone that share bank (pass items through bank on same acc)0 -
ailiadrake wrote: »Sylen, I have no idea what UTC is, but I do know that the server is synched with my own time, and my time is GMT+1 (I live in Italy, so that puts me 1 hour ahead of Greenwich, which is the same time as France. Which should be the place where the server is physically located). hope this helps
UTC is universal time kinda.
But anyway, I answered him just before he asked the question (post just above his one, even though I might have had problems with the quote balises).
(But the server is not located in France as far as I know)
Quoting myself :
Exactly. There would be no reason for the server time to be UTC.
At first the two EU servers were defined as "french one" and "german one" and both France and Germany are UTC+1.
Note also that appart from France and Germany, the most part of european countries use UTC+1 anyway.
So to convert time you need to use -6 or -9 and also be careful to saving times that might not be done on same weeks (There are a lot of Canadian players on Lothranis/Morai that got issues with that)0 -
You can double your account stash now. just get one on both servers and fill it up.On future maybe extend the char slots to 16? double account stash, friendlist, black list, etc...
Even could make a stone that share bank (pass items through bank on same acc)
Account stash is how you pass items (share) through a bank on the same account.
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For anyone confused here morai is on CEST (central european standard time) that is one hour ahead of GMT (where im from) the nw/tws run at 20:00 cest which is 19:00 in england if this clears up any confusion for those above!0
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Ok guys I have some questions:
First and I know it has been answered before but:
What if I have 8 toons on one server and 2 on the other?
The answer I saw before was something like: ''you will keep your 10 toons but you will not be able to create more''
My question is for the player who went through the merge years ago that still play and had more than 8 toons.
Can they access those characters?
is there any old players who can answer this?
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sylenthunder wrote: »
You can double your account stash now. just get one on both servers and fill it up.On future maybe extend the char slots to 16? double account stash, friendlist, black list, etc...
Even could make a stone that share bank (pass items through bank on same acc)
Account stash is how you pass items (share) through a bank on the same account.
I know, but without (adding extra alts on purpose on same accounts) and the bank stash (would be easier to pass directly from bank to alt bank (no need to relog everytime)0 -
Excuse me but for years I'm try to get transfer to Morai and get the message its not possible but now you are merging a american server with the European? How on the time differents between those 2 servers? And why it is possible to join those 2 servers form 2 different time zone and You cant transfer my char?
It's not that they couldn't, it's that GMs aren't your personal nannies.
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How long will maintenance last?0
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gymleadersoraka wrote: »How long will maintenance last?
hmm if only there was a maintenance thread, maybe there would be one stickied at the top of this very forum with estimated maint times, impossibru
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Yeah I know right? If only they would post a Maintenance thread and sticky it at the top of the forum so everyone could read the details about when it starts, what they are doing, and how long it's supposed to go....gymleadersoraka wrote: »How long will maintenance last?
hmm if only there was a maintenance thread, maybe there would be one stickied at the top of this very forum with estimated maint times, impossibru
Oh wait...
http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/1198769/pwi-maintenance-discussion-8-4-15
They did, someone just didn't bother to look before they posted.
Rading.... The lost art.
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Morai is physically hosted in the Netherlands. The server time follows CET time conventions, usually GMT +1 and observing DST.sylenthunder wrote: »So, anyone on Morai server can confirm if server time is UTC (as PWE states), or is actually an hour off?
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aeternusdoleo wrote: »
Morai is physically hosted in the Netherlands. The server time follows CET time conventions, usually GMT +1 and observing DST.sylenthunder wrote: »So, anyone on Morai server can confirm if server time is UTC (as PWE states), or is actually an hour off?
It's totally right BUT I don't think the server time is related to the server location though 0 -
I have one request of PWI, an extention stone for the Blacklist, I think its going to be needed after the merge.
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If that's the case, then it only puts my event time calculation for the East Coast off by one hour.aeternusdoleo wrote: »
Morai is physically hosted in the Netherlands. The server time follows CET time conventions, usually GMT +1 and observing DST.sylenthunder wrote: »So, anyone on Morai server can confirm if server time is UTC (as PWE states), or is actually an hour off?
So I'll correct my original post....sylenthunder wrote: »So the biggest complaint with Harshlands is the event times.
The main TW is at 8pm server, so this means that it would change from 8pm Eastern to 5pm Eastern. Pretty much the same times for NW also.
The afternoon TW is at 2pm, which would make it 11am Eastern.
The early morning TW (rare) is at 9am, which would make it 6am Eastern.
Overall, since these all occur on Saturday and Sunday, the only real issue will be with the Friday NW battles occurring while most people are still at, or getting off, work; and also with the very rare 5am TW time slot. (Which is really only ever seen in the first week or two of the TW season.)
Basically, now your evening has been freed up to go out with friends, or to a late movie. It also makes the Sunday NW way better for those who have jobs to go to on Monday morning.
Are you guys looking at the times in the right direction? I keep seeing people complain about early morning battles.
This is nothing like what Europeans playing on East/West coast servers have had to put up with, where their TW times were 3am for a West coast server, or midnight for a East coast server.
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