Final Compensation - For All (12.12.13 UPDATED)
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C_I_A - Dreamweaver wrote: »Don't need to pass judgement on jerks like yourself, you do it well enough on your own!...you're really worried about a rollback because you abused the code..yes I have higher morals than those that abused the code..because of jerks like you constantly entering the code many of us got nothing..I hope they do a rollback AND track down those that did abuse it and perm ban them..i hope you're the 1st to go!
Im sorry, you are from where? Dreamweaver? Tho the code for intended for All servers there wouldn't be a code in the first place if it wasn't for a "critical Error" in archosaur. Forthermore, there wouldn't be a code for all servers if others didn't QQ about it being unfair that Archo gets free stuff and other servers didn't. It was enough compensation imo with 5x on Archo. It was a nice gift to the other servers that were not affect with 2x.
They should have stopped there. Knowing that pwi/e cared enough to do something like that is all MOST people wanted. Then they gave us Free orbs in our email address.
yay! Ty pwi. Thats enough. NOPE. Now everyone gets free **** and the site crashes and now people are left QQing about it. So you ask for a roll back and claim that I'm worried about a rollback! LOL
ROLL IT BACK! Lets go, I'll go into NW and make just as much tokens. And i'll get my lvls and exp and coin back while others will QQ about losing a day or two because some didnt' get any orbs. OR others didn't feel the need to refresh the page. "Abuse". You flatter me with your "Hope you're the 1st to go!".
Perma Ban the members that "abused" the code. Abuse the code LOL sounds like a pirate movie line. How many people do you think will get banned? 10? 20? 100? 200? How much does 1 server hold? I'd say little over half the server would get banned based off of your "Perma ban" the ones that "abused". But what do you care. You have higher morals. So what if people can't play a game that they've been playing for a year+ anymore. It doesn't effect/affect you in anyway.
Stick your nose in the Air mister b:victoryLogic = Against ToS. It's the answer to all "Wtf..." Moments during normal gameplay with other players.0 -
Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »You don't get what the phrase "born with a silver spoon in their mouths" means, do you? Go look up the term "trust fund baby" and then come back and talk, PUH-LEASE.
i do understand of your point. but the next question is how many trust fund baby? 1 thousands player? i am sure not many and not worth it to compare with people that been work hard for their gear either irl or in game. in my server, i only know like 2 ppl like that. only 2, and u say that fixed the balance. meh...0 -
AiIeana - Raging Tide wrote: »At first i said no to a rollback, mostly because its unfair for those who haven't abused the code and those who didn't even get one, why let them suffer? But then again.. I don't see any other possible option. Banning the abusers would kill the game and thats something i dont want either. So i voted yes.
i agree on the first part, for no rollback, just give to others some reward too, i mean i didnt use the code and it shoud be a gift for everyone or not? i still want something like that too... b:surrender
but rollback would be realy hard and annoying, and another month of 2x drop wouldnt make it any better!!0 -
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Aren't so cool, who all day getting orbs like this! And no stops...b:angry0 -
BungaSakura - Raging Tide wrote: »i do understand of your point. but the next question is how many trust fund baby? 1 thousands player? i am sure not many and not worth it to compare with people that been work hard for their gear either irl or in game. in my server, i only know like 2 ppl like that. only 2, and u say that fixed the balance. meh...
So you seriously think this whole code giveaway affected only the rich cashoppers and none of the people who actually needed the +10 orbs? Of course, didn't affect you, so who gives a **** about other poor people? Don't care about them.
Maybe it's caffeine withdrawal, but man, do I have a headache right now.0 -
Shanabee - Harshlands wrote: »i agree on the first part, for no rollback, just give to others some reward too, i mean i didnt use the code and it shoud be a gift for everyone or not? i still want something like that too... b:surrender
but rollback would be realy hard and annoying, and another month of 2x drop wouldnt make it any better!!
I know, thats why they should send the code's out into the mailadresses or something so they can really only use it once per acount. Less spam and no abuse possible. I hope the gm's or whoever wake up soon so they can give us a headsup about all this.Malice Marshal and proud of it b:victory0 -
A roll-back would be good, combined with the same reward we had this time (3 dragon orbs, 2 event cards, hyper stones, hp charm + herbs).
However, instead of letting players enter a code in a redeem page that glitches the hell out of itself, players could get a mail with a personal 1-time only code.
Or they could set it up the same way they set up those anniversary rewards. Those rewards come from a different-looking page, and I've never heard of anyone having issues with it?
Sure, a rollback would mean the money and exp gained in the game would be lost for the days rolled back. Yes, it's very annoying, and people will be pissed. But right now part of the community is pissed because some people managed to (accidentally or not), get a crapton of orbs.
Players could print-screen the exp/level they've gained, send in a ticket and get the exp back or something. Not sure about the money/items gained during that time, however..I like bananabread0 -
Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »So you seriously think this whole code giveaway affected only the rich cashoppers and none of the people who actually needed the +10 orbs? Of course, didn't affect you, so who gives a **** about other poor people? Don't care about them.
Maybe it's caffeine withdrawal, but man, do I have a headache right now.
i am not rich people. i dont CS, the last 1 month i farm and getting 190 golds. i am saving it for +10 orb. so yeah i am pissed that ppl getting it for free while many others not. and u calling it this is fixed the balance for poor people.0 -
Soooooooo when do those GMs start working again ? b:angryOnly thing worst then a troll is a brainless troll ...0
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Let's see, my other post is lost in here somewhere b:shutup.
5 billion coins to +12 gear (10 pieces)
5 000 000 000 / 1 500 000 * 1.02 = 3 400 dollars
I might have done the 2% wrong.
Assume about 100 people per server did this.
Server 1 = 340 000 lost per server.
There are 8 servers. That is 2 720 000 dollars lost by PWI, 2.72million.
Basically we can round the figures to 1 million to 3 million to cover most cases like gold fluctuation, zen bonus etc.
I don't know about the rest of you, but if pwi was my company, i would incur a 100k loss, to ensure that i earn my 1 million dollars later.
My lost post highlighted other facts why there should be a roll back for both PVP and PVE reasons.
PVE reason: Welcome to vana style bh now. You are not +10 b:angry *kicks person out of squad*, welcome to vana run style full lunar+ws.
PVP reason: People will start one shotting all those people who are refined +7 and below regardless of the gear. Assuming people +12 their r9 3rd cast set.
All your farming, hard work over the past few days will be meaningless when the above takes over, and if vana runs are any indications, these changes will happen.
If a person is more of a solo player, this glitch does not hurt you, since you keep on doing what you used to do before. But if you play with other people, you will start to feel it.
Everyone remembers how left out they used to feel when 2x came around in vana times, if you were not with the "it crowd", 2x was hard to find people.0 -
Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »So you seriously think this whole code giveaway affected only the rich cashoppers and none of the people who actually needed the +10 orbs? Of course, didn't affect you, so who gives a **** about other poor people? Don't care about them.
Maybe it's caffeine withdrawal, but man, do I have a headache right now.
WRONG! poor people still need orbs too, plus it's not about poor and rich when it comes to free stuff, everyone is damaged, some people didn't get the orbs even for once.0 -
BungaSakura - Raging Tide wrote: »i am not rich people. i dont CS, the last 1 month i farm and getting 190 golds. i am saving it for +10 orb. so yeah i am pissed that ppl getting it for free while many others not. and u calling it this is fixed the balance for poor people.
Wow. I've been repeating my point over and over again, yet you don't understand it. How difficult is it to understand the concept that this giveaway has given some poor people a leg-up in terms of gear refines, just not all? SOME poor people. SOME. NOT ALL. THERE ARE POOR PEOPLE WHO BENEFITED FROM THIS.
But you just can't see past the fact that "wah wah, I didn't get this, other people did, wah wah", can you?wissamidrissi wrote: »WRONG! poor people still need orbs too, plus it's not about poor and rich when it comes to free stuff, everyone is damaged, some people didn't get the orbs even for once.
I don't think you understood the point of my posts. I certainly don't understand yours. Please come back later.0 -
Yeah technically the compensation should go towards arch server and only that server,seeing free +10 orbs in wc on another server is like putting a cut arm in a shark tank.0
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Why GM's no stop ppl get alot orbs till nowb:shocked0
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I see people talking about how it was all because of Archo's problems that we got these. Ok for all those people who are saying that:
ARCHO WAS NOT THE ONLY SERVER HAVING PROBLEMS! b:angry
Yes they had the most issues (that i'm aware of) but others servers had problems as well. Harshlands character list disappeared and that is only one of the problems we've had lately.
Now that being said...why are there no Gm's on at different hours? This is a 24 hour 7 day a week game not a 9-5 weekday game. IJS0 -
Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »Wow. I've been repeating my point over and over again, yet you don't understand it. How difficult is it to understand the concept that this giveaway has given some poor people a leg-up in terms of gear refines, just not all? SOME poor people. SOME. NOT ALL. THERE ARE POOR PEOPLE WHO BENEFITED FROM THIS.
But you just can't see past the fact that "wah wah, I didn't get this, other people did, wah wah", can you?
I don't think you understood the point of my posts. I certainly don't understand yours. Please come back later.
Back!, Maybe I don't but people arguing for nothing here, like pwi gives a * about our opinion when it comes to roll back or no, they will lose players anyway, rolling back or no, the solution have to be roll back only the orbs and MAKE A GOD * LOGGING SYSTEM for cases like this, I don't know how much programming it would take!!! give those ** their paycheck and let them go home if they can't make a logging system instead of rolling back the whole * back.0 -
Rooolback server pls...b:cry0
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Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »Wow. I've been repeating my point over and over again, yet you don't understand it. How difficult is it to understand the concept that this giveaway has given some poor people a leg-up in terms of gear refines, just not all? SOME poor people. SOME. NOT ALL. THERE ARE POOR PEOPLE WHO BENEFITED FROM THIS.
But you just can't see past the fact that "wah wah, I didn't get this, other people did, wah wah", can you?
I don't think you understood the point of my posts. I certainly don't understand yours. Please come back later.
yes, i dont get it. no matter what argument u say. WHY? because what they got is from glitch or abuse. the reason why they get it is not fair to begin with. so dont say about poor people here. and for me, really poor people is someone who cant even get the luxury to play MMO. because they have to think and work hard to get money to buy food. i know these people, since i work for them. but guess what, the people that u mention are not poor enough because they still can play this game.0 -
All this drama, all these emotions.
I think it is a good time for many of us to reflect on what a game actually means to us.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
Xxharliexx - Sanctuary wrote: »I Wont Play Agin Till There Is A Rollback
I don't play today too, still believe of rollback b:sad0 -
wissamidrissi wrote: »anyway, rolling back or no, the solution have to be roll back only the orbs and MAKE A GOD * LOGGING SYSTEM for cases like this, I don't know how much programming it would take!!! give those ** their paycheck and let them go home if they can't make a logging system instead of rolling back the whole * back.
LOL. No. They can't "roll back only the orbs". It doesn't work that way. A roll back does not work that way, if anyone else out there is thinking this.0 -
b:victory trueSHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear wrote: »Yeah technically the compensation should go towards arch server and only that server,seeing free +10 orbs in wc on another server is like putting a cut arm in a shark tank.0 -
The thing people dont realize is that the rollback would be to last maintanance, so you'd lose all your "farming" and "merchanting" etc etc, from tuesday night. All progress up to this point or whatever point they decide to "rollback" will be lost.
This isn't just about the dragon orbs now.
^ This, to all you people screaming rollback. Its not a smart idea. Oh people got to abuse a code that they didn't do right. Its PWI's fault. If they were doing a rollback we would've heard an official announcement by now. Also remember a rollback caused the majority of they issues happening now. Without the Arch server having to had a rollback, we would've never had this code in the first place. Looking at this logically, another rollback = more QQ and even more players losing more things than +10s, 11s, and 12s. Especially since it would have to be across ALL of their servers. A rollback cannot be their go to thing when they **** up. Which means more QQ, and then were back to what caused this, more compensation. So I say you 500+ players at this time who suggested a rollback are idiots.
I didn't even get to use the code, and all I want is the ability to use it once and be done with it.0 -
WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »All this drama, all these emotions.
I think it is a good time for many of us to reflect on what a game actually means to us.
Several things for me. Mainly its to find relaxation, to let out real life frustrations on mobs or whatever. Also i think its cool to communicate with people from allover the world and even tho i have never met them in real life, they have become good friends
Also the achievements i make ingame feel satisfying Doesn't mean i dont achieve anything irl (trust me i do) but the achievements ingame is something extra. Malice Marshal and proud of it b:victory0 -
Krystabela - Harshlands wrote: »I see people talking about how it was all because of Archo's problems that we got these. Ok for all those people who are saying that:
ARCHO WAS NOT THE ONLY SERVER HAVING PROBLEMS! b:angry
Yes they had the most issues (that i'm aware of) but others servers had problems as well. Harshlands character list disappeared and that is only one of the problems we've had lately.
Now that being said...why are there no Gm's on at different hours? This is a 24 hour 7 day a week game not a 9-5 weekday game. IJS
Idk i have never seen staff in a big online game work 9-5 only at PWE.
So far in more then one game! Free weekends and 9-5 while their games arent working rofl ...
Oh well! All servers had problem but Arch was the only server that got the rollback .Only thing worst then a troll is a brainless troll ...0 -
FateSoul - Lost City wrote: »A rollback would not just be to a certain point, it's going to be back to maintenance. What all of you idiots don't understand is that you're not only going to lose the few hours of that code being abused but all the progress made from tuesday nights maintenance until the point they do their "rollback".
IF they made a backup on tuesday night and not lets say ... last friday ROFLOnly thing worst then a troll is a brainless troll ...0 -
BungaSakura - Raging Tide wrote: »yes, i dont get it. no matter what argument u say. WHY? because what they got is from glitch or abuse. the reason why they get it is not fair to begin with. so dont say about poor people here. and for me, really poor people is someone who cant even get the luxury to play MMO. because they have to think and work hard to get money to buy food. i know these people, since i work for them. but guess what, the people that u mention are not poor enough because they still can play this game.
Meh, I give up. You appear to be reading everything I type through a butthurt-filter. You're talking about people so poor, they don't even have the time to play this game... What, exactly, in the fifty-seven-thousand levels of Hell do people who don't play this game have to do with this whole argument?
The people that I mention are not poor enough because they can play this game? What? Really? What? Poverty is relative to each economy but clearly you've stopped reading by this point because you don't understand any of this, so whatever. Just whatever.0 -
Abonimus - Raging Tide wrote: »IF they made a backup on tuesday night and not lets say ... last friday ROFL
TBH it really doesnt matter at this point it just needs to be done. That or give us all the orbs we all need for full +10 for all our gear and equalize the server. But many many people would be against that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »Meh, I give up. Just whatever.
about time. You are trying to hard to sway people to think and feel how you do. b:byeHere we go again....0
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