New PW Expansion (PWCN: Glory and Rebirth)

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

OK, I think I found the benefit of second incarnation, through a combination of questions 4, 6 and 20 of the previously linked blog post: on first reincarnation, you get (or get access to) passive skills boosting skill damage, critical rate, and physical and elemental defenses by 8%; on second reincarnation it's increased to 16%.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

OK, I think I found the benefit of second incarnation, through a combination of questions 4, 6 and 20 of the previously linked blog post: on first reincarnation, you get (or get access to) passive skills boosting skill damage, critical rate, and physical and elemental defenses by 8%; on second reincarnation it's increased to 16%.

The 8% and 16% are just for the mres/pdef passive buff.

Passive crit rate buff = 1% / 2%
Passive skill damage buff = 2% / 4%

MrJohnDoe - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

The 8% and 16% are just for the mres/pdef passive buff.

Passive crit rate buff = 1% / 2%
Passive skill damage buff = 2% / 4%

Oh awesome, makes sense.

The__Sun - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

The 8% and 16% are just for the mres/pdef passive buff.

Passive crit rate buff = 1% / 2%
Passive skill damage buff = 2% / 4%

I have looked through the threads but didn't seem to find anything that specifically noted if you reincarnate a 2nd time do you just need to be 100? Like if I'm 105 now and reincarnate I get the bonus stat points, but the 2nd time I should only go to level 100. Or the 2nd time around is there a reason to try to hit 105 again?

Asterelle - Sanctuary

The__Sun - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I have looked through the threads but didn't seem to find anything that specifically noted if you reincarnate a 2nd time do you just need to be 100? Like if I'm 105 now and reincarnate I get the bonus stat points, but the 2nd time I should only go to level 100. Or the 2nd time around is there a reason to try to hit 105 again?

My current understanding is that you should only go to 100 for the 2nd reincarnation but I'm not sure.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

My current understanding is that you should only go to 100 for the 2nd reincarnation but I'm not sure.

as far as the jp blog was concerned it said at the 2nd point you already obtain the 105lv worth of points

100 >(20pt)rebirth 1-100 >2nd rebirth(total 40) 1-100
・転生後100レベルに到達し、境界のレベルが玄天６重に到達していれば２度目の転生を行える。
・100⇒1回目の転生（繰越ポイント20）⇒100⇒2回目の転生（繰越ポイント合計40）⇒100で105分のステータスポイントは回収可。転生ごとに繰越ステータスポイントは累加される。

altho that doesnt make sense if previously they listed the stat points
100⇒20
101⇒25
102⇒32
103⇒42
104⇒56
105⇒76
unless they changed this somewhere along the way or the point of stat acquisition is somewhere else

MrJohnDoe - Dreamweaver

Now I am confused and hope on 2nd rebirth going to 100 would be enough since you have historical character to 105.

Suprprutty - Lost City

MrJohnDoe - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Now I am confused and hope on 2nd rebirth going to 100 would be enough since you have historical character to 105.

It should be but, if you want that little extra bit of attribute points you'll probably have to 105 again.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

as far as the jp blog was concerned it said at the 2nd point you already obtain the 105lv worth of points

100 >(20pt)rebirth 1-100 >2nd rebirth(total 40) 1-100
・転生後100レベルに到達し、境界のレベルが玄天６重に到達していれば２度目の転生を行える。
・100⇒1回目の転生（繰越ポイント20）⇒100⇒2回目の転生（繰越ポイント合計40）⇒100で105分のステータスポイントは回収可。転生ごとに繰越ステータスポイントは累加される。

altho that doesnt make sense if previously they listed the stat points
100⇒20
101⇒25
102⇒32
103⇒42
104⇒56
105⇒76
unless they changed this somewhere along the way or the point of stat acquisition is somewhere else

Hmm conflicting information... I know in the XML interface that each reincarnation you do has its own "rewrite" button but the button that activates feeding XP to your historic character seems to be attached to your maximum character.

Maybe it would be a cumulative amount of stat points but it maxes out at 76?

That Mel guy uploaded a couple of videos:

A run of the new instance (Part 2) (Part 3) (Low quality)

Short video of the new wizard AOE frostblade buff

dupethefile

I have only one question. Can I reborn to other class? Like Cleric-Wizard, Veno-Cleric, Barb-Sekeer...?

Azura - Lost City

dupethefile wrote: »

I have only one question. Can I reborn to other class? Like Cleric-Wizard, Veno-Cleric, Barb-Sekeer...?

No, here being reborn just means you start from level 1, with some extra stats.

The__Sun - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

My current understanding is that you should only go to 100 for the 2nd reincarnation but I'm not sure.

Ah ok, was wondering if maybe those stat points that you get to mdef and pdef would be scaled such as
if you are 103 you only get 5% vs 8%
Cause that would be strange if you can just reincarnate again with no benefit of hitting 105 again first

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

The__Sun - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ah ok, was wondering if maybe those stat points that you get to mdef and pdef would be scaled such as
if you are 103 you only get 5% vs 8%
Cause that would be strange if you can just reincarnate again with no benefit of hitting 105 again first

The stats you gain when you reincrnate is based on the level you were when you reincarnated. 105=max stat pionts.

The__Sun - Dreamweaver

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The stats you gain when you reincrnate is based on the level you were when you reincarnated. 105=max stat pionts.

yeah but I'm referring to the 2nd reincarnation after you already hit 105 and already reincarnated once and gained the 76 stat points, unless each time you would have to get back to 105 to get the 76 stat points.

SakuLv - Dreamweaver

The__Sun - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yeah but I'm referring to the 2nd reincarnation after you already hit 105 and already reincarnated once and gained the 76 stat points, unless each time you would have to get back to 105 to get the 76 stat points.

if its rly 2 times..then i guess u gain extra 76 points


but i guess have to wait and see for more info

dupethefile

Azura - Lost City wrote: »

No, here being reborn just means you start from level 1, with some extra stats.

Okay, but Cannot I reborn my veno to cleric, for example?

Valirah - Sanctuary

dupethefile wrote: »

Okay, but Cannot I reborn my veno to cleric, for example?

What part of "NO" are you not understanding?

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

dupethefile wrote: »

Okay, but Cannot I reborn my veno to cleric, for example?

This is not Myth War or Conquer Online (both of which are garbage games btw, sadly played them for a long time), although would be cool get some bonuses, veno reborns to smth. -extra fur (extra defense) cleric more mp growth etc. etc. b:chuckle

Shayd - Raging Tide

dupethefile wrote: »

I have only one question. Can I reborn to other class? Like Cleric-Wizard, Veno-Cleric, Barb-Sekeer...?

Yes you can reborn as a different class, start from lvl 1 and so on, and best of all you can keep the original character as well! Just make another god damn character.

Desdi - Sanctuary

New PWE blog today explaining the EXP system for the cards.
It's a little confusing so you might have to read it over a couple of times.

I actually found it pretty interesting, it gives a reason to revisit old instances that have been pretty dead for a while now and it's available for everyone. Every decent high level player can solo them.

Now..I just want to know how hard it is to get a decent set of cards, something that at least doesn't make you a one shot to those with maxed/semi-maxed cards and the difference in their power

bangis2010

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

New PWE blog today explaining the EXP system for the cards.
It's a little confusing so you might have to read it over a couple of times.

I actually found it pretty interesting, it gives a reason to revisit old instances that have been pretty dead for a while now and it's available for everyone. Every decent high level player can solo them.

Now..I just want to know how hard it is to get a decent set of cards, something that at least doesn't make you a one shot to those with maxed/semi-maxed cards and the difference in their power

Desdi would you mind linking that PWE blog...b:dirty i think i can start reading now

Desdi - Sanctuary

bangis2010 wrote: »

Desdi would you mind linking that PWE blog...b:dirty i think i can start reading now

Um.. pwi.perfectworld.com lol

FaceRolI - Sanctuary

Tried to read about the card update but I kept hearing this song. b:surrender

Nniotora - Lost City

all i hope is those essence dont get send into inventory bag. Uf it does then i hope we get a bigger bag cuz saving those high tier exp orbs will be horrible

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

New PWE blog today explaining the EXP system for the cards.
It's a little confusing so you might have to read it over a couple of times.

I actually found it pretty interesting, it gives a reason to revisit old instances that have been pretty dead for a while now and it's available for everyone. Every decent high level player can solo them.

Now..I just want to know how hard it is to get a decent set of cards, something that at least doesn't make you a one shot to those with maxed/semi-maxed cards and the difference in their power

Yea its bit confusing for now. Thing that makes me happy is that I can solo instances so dont have to fight with other people for orbs. I already see how that will be source of fighting between people in squad. Hope I'm wrong.

Thing that confuses me is that reset at the end of the week. Why are they reseting? Can someone explain please if understand that.

Nniotora - Lost City

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yea its bit confusing for now. Thing that makes me happy is that I can solo instances so dont have to fight with other people for orbs. I already see how that will be source of fighting between people in squad. Hope I'm wrong.

Thing that confuses me is that reset at the end of the week. Why are they reseting? Can someone explain please if understand that.

they are resetting the amount of orbs you can collect as they put a max of 20 orbs per week

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver

Nniotora - Lost City wrote: »

they are resetting the amount of orbs you can collect as they put a max of 20 orbs per week

ahh ok they reseting amount of orbs but stats you gain remanis?

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ahh ok they reseting amount of orbs but stats you gain remanis?

Yes, this is just a limit on how many orbs you can absorb in a week. Which I guess means everyone will progress at the same rate rather than few that will farm like mad and progress faster than others.

Perhaps I'm being dense here, I read the article, but what I don't get it what's the link between these orbs and the cards? Is it like the experience you use to lvl up the cards?

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yea its bit confusing for now. Thing that makes me happy is that I can solo instances so dont have to fight with other people for orbs. I already see how that will be source of fighting between people in squad. Hope I'm wrong.

Thing that confuses me is that reset at the end of the week. Why are they reseting? Can someone explain please if understand that.

I was thinking the mobs that drop those orbs would be in the open world, which would make it look like the open world is thriving again (even if it's just an illusion).

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes, this is just a limit on how many orbs you can absorb in a week. Which I guess means everyone will progress at the same rate rather than few that will farm like mad and progress faster than others.

Perhaps I'm being dense here, I read the article, but what I don't get it what's the link between these orbs and the cards? Is it like the experience you use to lvl up the cards?

Apperently, yes. And from the looks of their post, the S+ card gives 680 of each attack at lvl 1. Out of 100. I can only imagine everyone will be a 1-shot soon. Hopefully things won't be as broken as it seems right now.

Desdi - Sanctuary

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes, this is just a limit on how many orbs you can absorb in a week. Which I guess means everyone will progress at the same rate rather than few that will farm like mad and progress faster than others.

Perhaps I'm being dense here, I read the article, but what I don't get it what's the link between these orbs and the cards? Is it like the experience you use to lvl up the cards?

From my understanding the War Avatar system (I don't like this name >.>) has six slots:
A, B, C, D, E, F.

Each slot has a name (you can check the screenshots on the news post for them).
Each slot can hold a card, leading to what we've already known; you can equip up to six cards.
Each slot has something named "Nuema". The orbs are used to level up the "Nuema".

Think of it like a default bonus, eg. physical attack, that goes on top of your card. Think of it like the Meridian that just adds bonus HP on top of the HP you already have.


Let's take an example.
Destroyer: Physical + Magical Attack. That is the first card slot which I named A above.

Currently A has no card in it and you gain +0 physical and magical attack. You level up the Nuema. Now you gain +10 physical and magical attack.

Now you equip a corresponding card. Now you have +10 physical and magical attack from Nuema, +10 physical and magical attack from card. +20 in total for each attack type.


Mind you this is how I understand it. Number values were pulled out of thin air just to throw an example.
I think you have to feed your cards with other cards to level them while the Nuema is level through orbs.