Mystic, Veno or Cleric Damage comparison?

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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »
    How else? Who would dare to attack somebody when their not afk and explain to their face how horrible people they are as only horrible people need to be violent and hurt others. Also who would waste their genie space on that, they need heals like ToP so when these individuals appear one can heal the damage theyve inflicted.

    Id bet money Savor could kill the both of you in a 2 vs 1.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    Id bet money Savor could kill the both of you in a 2 vs 1.

    Must be so nice to talk the talk and depend on another to do the walk...
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
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  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    Demon veno has 50% chance to stun 3 seconds with stunning blow. If they have 0 pdef and amp they could even just die to this hit or at least tick their charm then that 3 second stun is fox wallop and 2 auto attacks. Could be dead by this point especially if fox wallop proc and 100% crit for 5 seconds if not you can stun fox wallop go human lucky scarab thats another 3 seconds thats 6 seconds of stun by a veno...not even counting useless nix.

    Sounds like the people you kill honestly must be either weak noobs or AFK. Combos like that may only work once in a red moon.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Both mystic and veno deal wood damage, but mystic have way higher wood defense than veno. A skilled mystic will beat the veno.

    You forget Mind Break, Armor Break, Ironwood, Fox skills, Howl, Demon Venomous, etc?
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    If I had to vote between those... Metal Mage Cleric b:victory. Hands down (abso-****inglutely nope, but aint on my server ;p )

    Ok, Id say Archer. I hear auto attack is good. If you are R9. Then again, so is any class with R9. (seriously... Mystic)
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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sounds like the people you kill honestly must be either weak noobs or AFK. Combos like that may only work once in a red moon.

    Or you force them to burn cds with stuns and your pet and nova wasting their faith fortify etc.. then when you see an opening use it. Like any combo you don't just jump into it you set it up first. This was just an example saying that venos could kill the other 2 classes. As far as utility skills veno has the most I can think of out of all the classes especially counting the morai skills.
    I could just turn them into a cat amp, armor break, stun, wallop, stun that would barely end the time of them being in useless cat form so it wouldn't matter if they were afk or not.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    Or you force them to burn cds with stuns and your pet and nova wasting their faith fortify etc.. then when you see an opening use it. Like any combo you don't just jump into it you set it up first. This was just an example saying that venos could kill the other 2 classes. As far as utility skills veno has the most I can think of out of all the classes especially counting the morai skills.
    I could just turn them into a cat amp, armor break, stun, wallop, stun that would barely end the time of them being in useless cat form so it wouldn't matter if they were afk or not.

    Yea... its not like mystic got guarantee crit, 100/200% energy leech, knockback, self bp, and higher heal. And of course clerics don't got sleep, silence, seals, shakle, dances. Who cares about other class's skills... as long as they are afk right.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
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  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    Or you force them to burn cds with stuns and your pet and nova wasting their faith fortify etc.. then when you see an opening use it. Like any combo you don't just jump into it you set it up first. This was just an example saying that venos could kill the other 2 classes. As far as utility skills veno has the most I can think of out of all the classes especially counting the morai skills.
    I could just turn them into a cat amp, armor break, stun, wallop, stun that would barely end the time of them being in useless cat form so it wouldn't matter if they were afk or not.

    So your saying you use this combo on the other 2 when they are practically not paying attention to you...like a noob. A pro wouldn't fall for this, clerics and mystics have more then enough skills to break your combo.
  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yea... its not like mystic got guarantee crit, 100/200% energy leech, knockback, self bp, and higher heal. And of course clerics don't got sleep, silence, seals, shakle, dances. Who cares about other class's skills... as long as they are afk right.

    This EA from pve server think he knows what he talkin about or who he talkin to. I have never been killed by an EP or a Mystic and never will be because Veno is better than both. veno can anti stun for almost 20 seconds straight on just skills not to mention their the only class with self immune (that i know of) so for 30 seconds you can't sleep/stun so that leaves seal ok mystics can do that. In the end Venos can purge the other classes can't.. that makes them win by default.
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So your saying you use this combo on the other 2 when they are practically not paying attention to you...like a noob. A pro wouldn't fall for this, clerics and mystics have more then enough skills to break your combo.

    Yeah except for that little fact you can't do **** when you're a cat. Just saying..Oh and I stole 200 chi too while you were a cat good luck?
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  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    This EA from pve server think he knows what he talkin about or who he talkin to. I have never been killed by an EP or a Mystic and never will be because Veno is better than both. veno can anti stun for almost 20 seconds straight on just skills not to mention their the only class with self immune (that i know of) so for 30 seconds you can't sleep/stun so that leaves seal ok mystics can do that. In the end Venos can purge the other classes can't.. that makes them win by default.



    Yeah except for that little fact you can't do **** when you're a cat. Just saying..Oh and I stole 200 chi too while you were a cat good luck?

    I feel sorry for all the afk/noobish players you kill, as you have no true skill whatsoever to pull this off in a 1 on 1 fight where you'll get you'll get owned in a flash. Sad, ain't it? You practically do the same as AFK kill someone in simpler terms.
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So your saying you use this combo on the other 2 when they are practically not paying attention to you...like a noob. A pro wouldn't fall for this, clerics and mystics have more then enough skills to break your combo.

    Breaking locks impossible w/o purify proc!!11!!11!! God I cant control myself today but I do find it difficult to bear with comments where, trying to argue your point of how the enemy is considered ****/something. Of course, if opponent if several stages behind you skillwise then yeah, even most unlikely situations can be manageable but seriously.

    And what 0 p.def we talking bout? The ironwood? Wasnt proc chance something like 20%? You cant even count on pet to do anything, oneshot on any higher tier caster fight and to not do so really doesnt fit not underestimating enemy.

    Oh well, let`s consider odds of the combo. 20% for p.def debuff, 50% for stun and what, 20% for crit proc? We get massive 2% success chance for all to proc. But is it just me or does anybody else wonder how the heck veno thinks to get close after p.def debuff procking? It only lasts 10s after all and any caster with half a brain would bail at that situation. Veno moving close before stun? Ehh, no, it`s just considering the opponent idiot again.

    Edit: Point being, combo like that wouldnt only need luck but opponent who is sadly clueless bout strengths of veno.
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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I feel sorry for all the afk/noobish players you kill, as you have no true skill whatsoever to pull this off in a 1 on 1 fight where you'll get you'll get owned in a flash. Sad, ain't it? You practically do the same as AFK kill someone in simpler terms.

    Do you even PvP? Yeah you can ask anyone on my server about all the "newbs" i kill lol get out of here trash pve players I am done commenting on this thread with these morons. PvPorGTFO
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    You get a purge amp 0pdef on a mystic or ep

    0 p.def is for demon veno and it's a 20% chances of get it.

    Some people love to say venos have better single and AOE damage than mystics.

    What would be the best thing to verify that? A situation that require both single and AOE damage, something like, Tiger event. First part is to kill the most mobs possible which require the best AOE possible and second part kill the boss which is a single target.

    On my server Mystics always have better contribution than venos, we are 3 mystics always over 20k contributions, me R8, one that was R9 and a other that was using 3rd recast Nirvana, while no veno got over 20k including R9 veno. (I'm now 3rd recast nirvana, but didn't done the event since I'm 3rd recast nirvy and didn't had my skills 100 too) So if we remove the R9 mystic, we are 2 non R9 mystics getting way much higher points than a bunch of R9 venos.

    I get over 20k contribution and keep in mind that I'm on a PvP server and got PK a lot during that event. (thx to ress buff I don't need to go back town and come back, but still that make me lose time)

    I got pmed by people asking how I was playing my mystic to get so many points, ''I don't know I just AOE as much as I can on the mobs part and DD as much as I can on the boss'', I answered. Even when I was lvl 9x I was pmed about it by people saying ''tha f*** you got highest contribution than people level 100+''.

    There was someone keeping asking me where I was doing it cause he wanted to see me do the event to see how I was doing ''so good''.

    When some people saw my score as mystic they started to come on their alt mystic beside their main cause they realized they was able to get more points on mystic then on their other caster class.

    On my entire server there's 3 mystics able to get over 20k contribution (I'm on these 3), while there's no veno over 20k. (ok one time I saw veno at 20k, but she had 1.9k random contribution at the end cause before the random points she was at 18.1k while the 3 mystics, we was at over 20k without the random points)

    I almost always are in the top 15-10 overall while there's no veno in front of me. (as far as I can remember I even never saw a veno in the top 10)

    There's mystics with better gears/weapon than me that hardly get 10-15k contribution. Unfortunately opinion of people will be based on those unskilled mystics, they have the gears/weap to get over 20k, but not the skills, while NO veno get over 20k, i can understand some veno suck but 100% of them? I don't think so, at the limit they would have like mystics 2-3 great venos, but the 2-3 greats venos doesn't on HL doesn't beat the 2-3 great mystics.

    So anyway all that to say that on my server on Tiger event = Mystics>Venos. (on single and AOE damage)
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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    Do you even PvP? Yeah you can ask anyone on my server about all the "newbs" i kill lol get out of here trash pve players I am done commenting on this thread with these morons. PvPorGTFO

    Introducing Savor, aka Susamajii.
    You guys remember that world wide international pvp tournament in 2011? The one where LostCity Server killed the world boss mob faster than any of the "PVE" servers?
    This is Susa.
    He represented you and all other PWI servers in the 2011 PvP tournament.
    He's ranked 9th Venomancer in Kill/Death Ratio across all servers. 7 out of ten of those spots are held by LostCity Server.

    If you look at the kill/death ratio of all classes on all servers, you want to know what 2 classes don't have anyone at all on the first page? Cleric and Mystic. You want to know what class of these 3 is featured in the top 10 across all servers? Venomancer.

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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    0 p.def is for demon veno and it's a 20% chances of get it.

    Sorry to cut your post short but i stopped reading after this incorrect statement. All venos have myriad rainbow human and fox form that has a chance to 0 Pdef break. Your point is invalid.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    This EA from pve server think he knows what he talkin about or who he talkin to.

    Reall... this is what you got. Just because you are on a pvp server... you are all the sudden better then me at pvp? I don't know whats more embrassing... being from a pve server... or having less kills then a nub from a pve server.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

    Introducing Savor, aka Susamajii.
    You guys remember that world wide international pvp tournament in 2011? The one where LostCity Server killed the world boss mob faster than any of the "PVE" servers?
    This is Susa.
    He represented you and all other PWI servers in the 2011 PvP tournament.
    He's ranked 9th Venomancer in Kill/Death Ratio across all servers. 7 out of ten of those spots are held by LostCity Server.

    If you look at the kill/death ratio of all classes on all servers, you want to know what 2 classes don't have anyone at all on the first page? Cleric and Mystic. You want to know what class of these 3 is featured in the top 10 across all servers? Venomancer.

    /Thread
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    My K/D would be higher but I was pvping as a 9x vs lvl 100s when I decided to switch back to veno after playing barb for 2 1/2 years.
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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Reall... this is what you got. Just because you are on a pvp server... you are all the sudden better then me at pvp? I don't know whats more embrassing... being from a pve server... or having less kills then a nub from a pve server.

    You base your knowledge of me off of my total kills? Add my barb into that equation or the fact that I am not an rpker and I probably have more kills than you; or the fact that I was heavy build until last week and had the mattack of a pigeon and still managed to kill people. I had less than 350 magic and soloed a rank 9 wizard in fox form. You mad? The wizard isn't a complete newb but he isn't one of the best either. I even pvped my friend lolomgwtfbbq he is actually a really good wizard with high kill count (even if he does rpk) and I beat him 1v1 fox form only. I hit him 6.6k charm bypass at half hp with stunning blow in a 40 minute long 1v1. Yeah base your perception on the kill count of one of my seven alts. Seems legit.
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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Reall... this is what you got. Just because you are on a pvp server... you are all the sudden better then me at pvp? I don't know whats more embrassing... being from a pve server... or having less kills then a nub from a pve server.

    He has not 1 but 2 toons with better Kill/Death ratios than you.
    looked it up.

    And this isn't about you. My last post proves definitively that venomancer has higher potential than both the other two classes.
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  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

    Introducing Savor, aka Susamajii.
    You guys remember that world wide international pvp tournament in 2011? The one where LostCity Server killed the world boss mob faster than any of the "PVE" servers?
    This is Susa.
    He represented you and all other PWI servers in the 2011 PvP tournament.
    He's ranked 9th Venomancer in Kill/Death Ratio across all servers. 7 out of ten of those spots are held by LostCity Server.

    If you look at the kill/death ratio of all classes on all servers, you want to know what 2 classes don't have anyone at all on the first page? Cleric and Mystic. You want to know what class of these 3 is featured in the top 10 across all servers? Venomancer.

    /Thread
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    I can understand clerics, they are easy to kill. But mystic is where your wrong. Most likely reason being mystic wasn't on top page, was because not many even cared to consider their true potential at the time to maximize 1 out and use them so actively. I remember people thought mystics as "fail healers" and "Wanna be veno-healers", and over time people made more but I still don't see a huge population of them regardless, as people still choose cleric over mystic anytime and mystics get hardcore rejection. So your point is invalid there.

    P.s. I'm not saying mystics suck, was for the point of the conversation as how it use to be. I have a 85 mystic I tried ages ago and plan to resurrect this year, and love the gameplay. Wish they were appreciated more.
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I can understand clerics, they are easy to kill. But mystic is where your wrong. Most likely reason being mystic wasn't on top page, was because not many even cared to consider their true potential at the time to maximize 1 out and use them so actively. I remember people thought mystics as "fail healers" and "Wanna be veno-healers", and over time people made more but I still don't see a huge population of them regardless, as people still choose cleric over mystic anytime and mystics get hardcore rejection. So your point is invalid there.

    P.s. I'm not saying mystics suck, was for the point of the conversation. I have a 85 mystic I tried ages ago and plan to resurrect this year, and love the gameplay. Wish they were appreciated more.

    Savor is like 1 year old and in the age of rank 9 gear has been running around in NV armor on a pvp server until earlier this week. Surely at least 1 Mystic in that time, just one on any server, should have been able to get more kills or a better K/D ratio than someone running around in NV gear...

    You don't suppose, maybe, just mayyyyyyybe that he has some skill and knows what he is talking about? And that is how he did it?
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

    Savor is like 1 year old

    Funny it's not what core connect say.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Too lazy to quote everything.

    1. Saying that I can add up my alts and have more kills then you is like saying I can gather up a **** load of r8s and kill your r9 ***. Sure... get enough of them together and I probably won't even bother to fight.
    2. Just cause one guy is good at one class... doesn't mean he is good at another.
    3. Congrad on someone who can pve well (kill harpy) and supposely represent the US servers. Now remind me against how well he/you/we did in pvp when gears were equalized and skills actually were the deciding factor....
    4. Why would I be mad that you killed an r9 wiz... I kill those all the time. I also crit 20k on 3rd cast la armor... you mad? **** happen once in a blue moon... stop hanging on to it and move on.
    5. I guess venos having a 3 year head start over mystic didn't play a role in the rankings. And really... now we're trying to best pvp count with a healing class.
    6. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. You were 9x when you pvp against 100x... stop coming up with excuses. Or maybe I should make excuse for my **** poor k/d cause I was bleeded by nixes in my 60s.

    Mystic can pvp, cleric can pvp, veno can pvp. Saying that you can lock the other 2 classes until you kill them is a freaking joke at best. What you are suggestion has a huge luck factor to it... not going to work everytime... and you are assuming that no one genies... or even counters.
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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Funny it's not what core connect say.

    One year of actively playing. I made the character a long time ago then played a barb for 2.5 years then decided to switch to veno because they had more potentially fun solo pvp. Barbs are just charm **** machines. Until the last year I had never even gone to TW on this character. As far as world pvp as stated before I was heavy build until last week so to have 5k kills with only 1k deaths that's pretty good I'd say.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    One year of actively playing. I made the character a long time ago then played a barb for 2.5 years then decided to switch to veno because they had more potentially fun solo pvp. Barbs are just charm **** machines. Until the last year I had never even gone to TW on this character. As far as world pvp as stated before I was heavy build until last week so to have 5k kills with only 1k deaths that's pretty good I'd say.

    Just curious, do you have a mystic?
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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Just curious, do you have a mystic?

    No I do not. I do know a little about them one mystic on my server always asked me to damage test and what not showing me what the skills do. The one that ignores defense levels is very nice. I don't know anything about their morai skills though. The knockback is annoying. I just don't see anyone dying to mystics in pvp on my server there are some 3rd cast ones too.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    No I do not. I do know a little about them one mystic on my server always asked me to damage test and what not showing me what the skills do. The one that ignores defense levels is very nice. I don't know anything about their morai skills though. The knockback is annoying. I just don't see anyone dying to mystics in pvp on my server there are some 3rd cast ones too.

    They must not be good then, cause in NW often when I do lucky break+Gale force without even spark and I see a bunch of sins/bms falling on the ground. (Generally after that I got a few pm, some saying ''Good job'' and other saying ''F*** U'') xD
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  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    uh....

    OP wanted to know DD abilities....not PVP abilities....

    DD != PVP ability

    IJS them R8/T2/TT99 sins have ****loads of DD but aren't particularly good for pking...

    So really, let the man roll what he wants lol. They're not particularly better than each other.

    I'd say veno because support debuffer in PVE has a less important role than primary/secondary healer so you can afford to be...lazier than a cleric/mystic

    Also veno early stage is cheap as fuq. Grab a walker and at your 50s/60s you can practically afk each mob, with almost no repair fee, little pot use thanks to MP/HP recovery/transfuse, can fox for survivability, can solo most of your quests at-level or slightly above (had to wait till 43 to solo Chi'in, Masoleum Watchman with a Sharpshooter, solo'd Khewy at 44-48ish, killed Kashu for 49 culti solo, etc). Both mystic and veno are going to be coin ****** while, well,

    my veno doesn't even carry pots in pve b:pleased

    And besides, all these classes can share gears so...why not roll them all?
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  • SmurfJegeren - Dreamweaver
    SmurfJegeren - Dreamweaver Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    In a 1v1, a mystic is a real pain. They can attack sleeped targets without waking them up, thry got a "stun" you cant break free from that increases the damage you take, they got the 'only' pvp push skill, shields and pets with various skills increaong damage output considerably. Their channels are fast, and can give them a very high dps compared to both veno n cleric. Out of my pvp experiences, mystic beats veno n cleric pretty hard.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'd say veno because support debuffer in PVE has a less important role than primary/secondary healer so you can afford to be...lazier than a cleric/mystic

    In pve... cleric gets squads... mystic get squads... veno get the bottom the barrel. less important role = less wanted.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf

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