Petition to Level Restrict Hypers

anwynd

If restricting access to fcc and hyper use will bring more fun people to sqaud with on alts ill gladly support thisb:victory, i only used hypers to get more spirit anyway.
I have a suggestion of my own, what if there was lets say a 15-30 minute cooldown on oracles so they wouldnt be worth abusing. With my suggestion and yours if both were put into effect then people would be forced to do dailies or other stuff.

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

From everyone who C$ in that game ask them what they bought and how many time they C$, a lot of people C$ only one time and that was for get rep for R8, its the only 75 golds they ever put in game. A lot of people C$ only one time and its for R8.

Many R9 C$ the R9 (not all but a lot), so the rank is where the cash is, when someone R9 is bored what he do? He make a alt power lvl to 100-101 and cashop a R8-R9, so i dont think the hyper give them so much money but in a way the fact hyper exist make people lvl up really fast and C$ to get R8 stuff.

Each server may be different I suppose. But On our server there is at least a 3:1 ratio of packs and orbs then a rep seller from catshops. Majority of CSers put their gold in AH for us to buy with our ingame coin for things. (Mostly Packs and Orbs. Sure people pay charge a one time fee for r8 of 75 gold. But they will have to keep paying for Orbs and packs which will total exceed that 75 gold. The only exception to that is r9 but not every will get that.

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

True there. That makes hyper kind of the motivation to cash shop some more because you can power level to 100+.

Where as if they didnt hyper they would have to buy things such as TT mats and orbs and shards for their gear as they leveled as well as charms instead. So instead of paying a measily couple of 100k on hypers they spend more on gear and other things which may require them to actually charge more money if they are too lazy to farm it.

And since people are doing these lower leveled quests and instances the newer players who cant affoard this stuff at first will have people to play with and pay potentially buy these things later where as its lost currency since they left before they could get to that chance.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I change my posts to add quotes from other people or fix typos, I don't change my posts a bunch of times like you claim. Double posting isn't allowed btw technically.

Spam is not allowed, but if someone post 2 reply back to back which is not spam is not ''illegal'', i do sometime when i quote many people, cause i'm personally to nob to do multi- quotes so sometime i make 2-3 reply back to back with each quote i want answer and i never get told to don't do it. (in fact i even saw a mod do it, make a post for each quote back to back)

Cause even if i don't agree with you, if you make 3-4 reply back to back with each quote i wont consider spam since you reply to them and don't just post a smiley for post count.

Yes you changed your post cause when i pressed reply with quote you and checked my post the quote wasnt what your original post was, i said (to myself) ''what the -removed- its not what she said, i bet she edited her post while i was replying'' and guess what, when i checked you did edited your post.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Each server may be different I suppose. But On our server there is at least a 3:1 ratio of packs and orbs then a rep seller from catshops.

Guess why?

Cause people C$ the rank stuff, but they buy token in game with in game coins.
Its cheapest buy the token in a kittyshop in game than buy from the boutique.
But its cheapest buy the rank from the boutique than the kittyshop.

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Spam is not allowed, but if someone post 2 reply back to back which is not spam is not ''illegal'', i do sometime when i quote many people, cause i'm personally to nob to do multi- quotes so sometime i make 2-3 reply back to back with each quote i want answer and i never get told to don't do it. (in fact i even saw a mod do it, make a post for each quote back to back)

Cause even if i don't agree with you, if you make 3-4 reply back to back with each quote i wont consider spam since you reply to them and don't just post a smiley for post count.

Yes you changed your post cause when i pressed reply with quote you and checked my post the quote wasnt what your original post was, i said (to myself) ''what the -removed- its not what she said, i bet she edited her post while i was replying'' and guess what, when i checked you did edited your post.

I said I don't change my posts 30 times like you said I do apparently. I change it once and maybe twice thats it. I usually change it if I missed a typo or if someone posts right before my post gets in and I want to quote and add them to my post which is what I did in that previous quote. But think what you want. Now take it to private messages with me or let it go.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Guess why?

Cause people C$ the rank stuff, but they buy token in game with in game coins.
Its cheapest buy the token in a kittyshop in game than buy from the boutique.
But its cheapest buy the rank from the boutique than the kittyshop.

You seem to have forgotten to read the rest of my post stating that in the long run they will be paying more for packs and orbs then just r8.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

trolololsomeoneismad. b:pleased

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

trolololsomeoneismad. b:pleased

Who might be mad?

I'm having a laugh at this. b:chuckle

I'm sorry english isn't your main language. (Or I hope so it's so gramatically incorrect.)

shashahah

lmao good kind of troll thread xD

given the creator of this is lv105, some1 might think he/she/it wanted to prevent others from raising new toons and get to 105 also and/or stopping the flood of new sins who nerf the nirv market so much..

nowadays most ppl zentrade anyway, so theres no "cant afford" anymore
new players want to get to 100 asap so they can do the endgame stuff like all the others

whats the use of taking 3months to lv80?
really good one, bro xD

and hey, take it as it is:
the faster ppl lv to 101 > the faster pwi gets money cos of all the r9 cashshoppers
lv requirement wont ever happen, since hypers were created for exactly the purpose of lvling fast.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Who might be mad?

I'm having a laugh at this. b:chuckle

I'm sorry english isn't your main language. (Or I hope so it's so gramatically incorrect.)

I'm sorry moron is your main language, cause your english isnt really good too, you seem have problem to read it, but hey no worry even if moron is not my first language i understand you.

^ oh right since your english suck let me explain, you said:'' you said i edited my post 30 times and i didnt blabblabla''.

Found where i said that you edited 30 times your posts. So go ahead check my post, i even didn't edited the typo so you can't said i changed what i've said.

You attack my language which just proove that you are out of argument and attack me on something which have nothing to do with it (thread) which is my language. I don't know why people that have english as primary language think they are more smart than people who have a other primary language. More people told me that i even type better than some people to who its their primary language.

If you want to ''try'' to insult me, please please please don't be a copy cat and try found something original not something you stole from someone else cause the one about language don't work on me. kk?

have a good day b:bye

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

MrBeBo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Also, Jen didn't make multiple alts while leveling and try gearing other characters, or buy pointless things. She saved coin and stuck to one char, there are many players on our server that have done the same by just having only one character they wanted to work on.

Well you really don't know her or you are a liar.

She have a:

archer 105
cleric 90+
barb 90+
sin 90+

I consider that as multiple alts and im even prolly sure her cleric barb sin are lvl 100+ by now.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

MrBeBo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's why Jen has the gear and level she has, because she didn't put her time into alts... she put time into her archer as a TW character and as a main.

Sorry im too stupid too multi-quote, but that go with my previous post about MrBeBo saying ''jen'' didnt put time in alts while she have 3 alts lvl 90+ and prolly lvl100+ by now.

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

I'm sorry moron is your main language, cause your english isnt really good too, you seem have problem to read it, but hey no worry even if moron is not my first language i understand you.

^ oh right since your english suck let me explain, you said:'' you said i edited my post 30 times and i didnt blabblabla''.

Found where i said that you edited 30 times your posts. So go ahead check my post, i even didn't edited the typo so you can't said i changed what i've said.

You attack my language which just proove that you are out of argument and attack me on something which have nothing to do with it (thread) which is my language. I don't know why people that have english as primary language think they are more smart than people who have a other primary language. More people told me that i even type better than some people to who its their primary language.

If you want to ''try'' to insult me, please please please don't be a copy cat and try found something original not something you stole from someone else cause the one about language don't work on me. kk?

have a good day b:bye

Obiviously mad.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Well you really don't know her or you are a liar.

She have a:

archer 105
cleric 90+
barb 90+
sin 90+

I consider that as multiple alts and im even prolly sure her cleric barb sin are lvl 100+ by now.

You do realize if you look at when those achievements were unlocked they were before I had as many Dailies I could do (moria / Pv / etc)

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Sorry im too stupid too multi-quote, but that go with my previous post about MrBeBo saying ''jen'' didnt put time in alts while she have 3 alts lvl 90+ and prolly lvl100+ by now.

And no I didnt really put much time into those alts. The barbs a buffer for friends not even 100+. Cleric is a key opener only 100. and the Sin is only 101 using my old gear before r9 came out for additional bhs or helping faction members out. Good job stalking my profile though.

Rubride - Lost City

b:bye This poll is getting out of hand. Basically I went with NO because if you put a limit on hypers, then you **** up the 30-80 Phoenix Valleys. People care about that as long you know how to PLAY YOUR CLASS, you'll done fine in-game.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

Bella, if your goin to be trolling on a topic that jen started that only relates to putting a lvl restriction on hypers instead of different main languages, then you are more stupid than you appear. plus id like to say tht your arguements are invalid. so wht if she edits her posts as much as 30 times, or even 100 times if she likes. does that give you the grounds to atk the language barrier here? to me that tells me your a lousy piece of crud, where someone ought to hang ya upside down from your heels in a pen of mud. maybe even acid. so if you wont back off from your atk on jen, then others will probably eat you alive.

Jen, i just like to say that sure lvl limiting hypers would help, but it doesnt solve the problem. everything is circled around FC by allowing non lvl requirement players who start out at lvl 1 to be in a high lvl instance where they shouldnt be goin till they are qualified to be in FC. IF pw was to lvl limit the hypers why not limit the hypers to lvl 70 for those that might grind with hypers. but the main problem is having lvl 1s enter FF and able to go through 20-50 lvls within a few days or more. If it meant limiting the hypers to a specific lvl id be for it.

PS If people cant control themselves, then they'll be controlled from the outside.

EtherbIade - Harshlands

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

.. does that give you the grounds to atk the language barrier here? to me that tells me your a lousy piece of crud, where someone ought to hang ya upside down from your heels in a pen of mud. maybe even acid. so if you wont back off from your atk on jen, then others will probably eat you alive.

Lawl what is that?

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

So much salt in this thread, I dont even...

@Rubride - While thats true, it can still be done along with the lower leveled BHs, RBs, and CS for a nice amount of XP. Perhaps the XP inside of the lower leveled PVs can even be increased if Hypers were limited and the instance begins to fall into disuse.

Quilue - Sanctuary

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

From everyone who C$ in that game ask them what they bought and how many time they C$, a lot of people C$ only one time and that was for get rep for R8, its the only 75 golds they ever put in game. A lot of people C$ only one time and its for R8.

Many R9 C$ the R9 (not all but a lot), so the rank is where the cash is, when someone R9 is bored what he do? He make a alt power lvl to 100-101 and cashop a R8-R9, so i dont think the hyper give them so much money but in a way the fact hyper exist make people lvl up really fast and C$ to get R8 stuff.

Didn't realize people were hyperings slave chars to get rank 8. Don't you think if someone is willing to gear up an alt to rank 8/9, they would be perfectly willing to play the character at lower level too?

At the very least, a level restriction on hypers wouldn't really make that much of a difference, as most FCC squads, even a lot of the ones selling exp rooms, are above lv 70 anyway. The only thing it prevents is people hypering 1-70 in a few runs, which is just stupid. Doesn't take that long to get to lv 70 without hypers tbh, or 80 for that matter.

Also, don't you think people that do CS would buy rank anyway if they reach lv 100 sooner or later? It's not like if you lv to a certain level without hypers, then hypered to 100, suddenly you don't want to buy rank anymore right? Even exp orbs from BH that you can stash to alts have a level requirement right?

BuBysaur - Heavens Tear

too bad our GMs/community menagers wont honor us with response and their oppinion....

KizuKunaii - Harshlands

This is why I play a private server. We don't need to worry about trivial **** like this. Just level, get r9, +12 it, make shards(slowly but surely), and pvp to your heart's content. AND IT NEVER GETS OLD

victor1337

OP made by a glitch baby...now wants to restrict people using items that were actually designed to be used in the game?

Wow.

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

Just get a taco

They make everything better even heartburn

EtherbIade - Harshlands

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

Didn't realize people were hyperings slave chars to get rank 8. Don't you think if someone is willing to gear up an alt to rank 8/9, they would be perfectly willing to play the character at lower level too?

In a perfect wolrd people would take time to lvl up and learn their class, but unfortunatly now people are not patient anymore and want all now without work for it and they want it right now.

A lot of people make alt power lvl and with the main money pay R8 on the alt, i dunno on the other server but on Harsland almost everyone do it.

On Harsland we have the best exemple of that, a leader of a big TW faction power lvl a wizz in few weeks and bought R9 and he suck as you cant imagine as wizz cause he never play it before, but the guy don't care that he suck, he is R9, some people just like to show off.

I heard many people say they gonna power lvl their alt buy R8 than after learn the class when they gonna be 100+ all geared.

Hyper is not the main problem, its the FC open at all lvl, cause even without hyper stone, people still can bring the alt in FC with a training esotirica and exp ornements, a low lvl will still give a lot of exp in FC without hyper stone, than people will use oracles. Is put a requisite lvl on the exp bonus items is a solution? Could be, but like someone say in a previous post, they made hyper stone so people can speed lvl up (its even on the hyper stone description in game if you check on the boutique).

I think to just put a npc in front of FC like nirvana will fix it without need to restrict the exp items, if people hyper in quests well to be honest i don't care at least that show they quests.

IRawrMew - Heavens Tear

No. I like being a hyper noob who can't play my class right

Kasira - Harshlands

doitmuku wrote: »

its absolutly UNFAIR to newcomer.. vote no for lvl restrict on hyper...

It's that horrid combination of newcomers and hypers that's created all the failures who can't play their classes. If anything it's not fair on existing players to let newbies level to 100 too quick then get us all killed in BH with their ineptitude.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »

It's that horrid combination of newcomers and hypers that's created all the failures who can't play their classes. If anything it's not fair on existing players to let newbies level to 100 too quick then get us all killed in BH with their ineptitude.

diddo on that kasira, sure is a failure to have newbies speed lvl all the way up to 100 and then when they want to help with the lower lvl instances, they get the squad killed.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear

Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »

It's that horrid combination of newcomers and hypers that's created all the failures who can't play their classes. If anything it's not fair on existing players to let newbies level to 100 too quick then get us all killed in BH with their ineptitude.

In all fairness... the whole squad has to be inept if the "failure" of 1-2 members can be noticed.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

My proposed solution. Make Hyper stones have a level requirement of at least 80. That gets rid of the "O lets EXP farm elsewhere" for people saying remove hypering from FF. Getting to 80 these days without FC is easy as hell already and forces people to BH and Crazystone etc to level. Which then will make them require gear for their level which will in-turn have people farming TTs and other things which will help keep the playerbase from being completely bored and also "teach them how to play their class" in a challenging instance. While keeping the High EXP ouput FF useable for higher levels which still helps feed your wallets.

What are your thoughts.

My thoughts:

not tryin to **** fight but i find it kinda ironic and a little disturbing that a lv105 hyperglitch gooner is asking to propose a forced level requisite for lowbie legit lvling hyper usage to "Better PWI and its playerbase"

I mean .... you had your fill. Let them have theirs too.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

My thoughts:

not tryin to **** fight but i find it kinda ironic and a little disturbing that a lv105 hyperglitch gooner is asking to propose a forced level requisite for lowbie legit lvling hyper usage to "Better PWI and its playerbase"

I mean .... you had your fill. Let them have theirs too.

Jen lvled her archer through hard work and being active. plus the facts are the playerbase has dropped significantly in the last 2 yrs or so. We pwi veterans arent goin to just let them have their fill of hyper usage while the game itself is suffering. you say that you arent pickin a fight but wht ya just said could cause anyone to take it personally. If jen says tht she worked hard to get to where she is now, so just leave it. not all lvl 105 players hyperglitched in ff.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Jen lvled her archer through hard work and being active. plus the facts are the playerbase has dropped significantly in the last 2 yrs or so. We pwi veterans arent goin to just let them have their fill of hyper usage while the game itself is suffering. you say that you arent pickin a fight but wht ya just said could cause anyone to take it personally. If jen says tht she worked hard to get to where she is now, so just leave it. not all lvl 105 players hyperglitched in ff.

there are only a few handful of pple that have not gooned to capp, and i exclude those pple that got to a lv "104-104.5" and then legitly leveled to 105 recently >_> you should be aware of pples lvling habits if you peek at their core achievement.


Im sure hyper lowbies can also be be categorized as leveling through "hard work and being active" depending on the perspective you see and how friendly you are with them as friends. ;P The OP asked for poster thoughts. I gave my honest opinion regarding the matter. If your one of those pple that only want opinions that agree and praise you, then say so.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

there are only a few handful of pple that have not gooned to capp, and i exclude those pple that got to a lv "104-104.5" and then legitly leveled to 105 recently >_> you should be aware of pples lvling habits if you peek at their core achievement.


Im sure hyper lowbies can also be be categorized as leveling through "hard work and being active" depending on the perspective you see and how friendly you are with them as friends. ;P The OP asked for poster thoughts. I gave my honest opinion regarding the matter. If your one of those pple that only want opinions that agree and praise you, then say so.

wrong there sister, theres like more than a dozen ppl who havent gooned to 105 much less 100 and i dont need to look at the core achievements just to knw ppls habits. if you wanna talk on goon glitchin, then bring up the subject of fixing the glitch in FF with the devs or gms. (even though they have pond water in their ears) plus theres a big difference between hard work and just pure stupidity lvling. im sure you did give your honest opinion, but i dont think accusing the main person who posted this will earn you power points with anyone much less everyone. im not one who has an opinion tht only needs praise and agreement, i tell it like it is and the facts still stand that the playerbase has suffered a major blow, FF hasnt been fixed with the glitch, plus we got all these "hyper lowbies" tht have ruined the playerbase by havin speed outplay pure skill. id rather see skill than aps, permasparkin, and power lvlin (or power in anyway we can get it period). idk bout you, but if you like to atk other ppls viewpoint and position on how much pwi has gone down the drainpipe, then maybe ya should go play on a different game.