FC Glitch Update

MrFortySeven - Harshlands

You can take your 2x (for one month) and shove it you know where. Like the other guy said NOBODY will be able to go from 101 - 105 in the wopping month you'll be giving this to us. So, again, a worthless "fix".

I have better fixes to propse:

• -Restore "goon glitch" so that anyone else who wants to 'use' it can
• -Give us 4x for 6 months straight

Those are probably about the only other things that would MAYBE be "fair" in my honest opinion (or at least allow us to catch up to all the CHEATERS) if permanent bans are STILL not an option b:shutupb:surrender F**K just give us all, that have been players for a long time (say, members since 2008-2009), instant 105 even that would be more fair than WTF you're offering now !

Just do not forget, that by not issuing proper BANS (permanent), you're totally invalidating your ToS, and any "rules", ethics, or morals the company has or had. You say something about "We're not going to perma-ban a huge portion of the player-base" -- REALLY, THAT many people "abused" it??? First, I doubt that (a couple hundred [per server] I figure). Second, even if that was true, do you really want those kinds of people (that are also likely to become repeat offenders, should anything like this "pop up" in the future) potentially tarnishing your [product] game? At the additional risk that new players will be non-existent due to this behavior! Especially since you've just showed all of us that your ToS is garbage, and you will not enforce it. Next, how do you even know for a fact that you'd lose them??? I'm sure you would lose a few (12 year olds) that QQ //RAGEquit, but I think some people could be [mature] big boys and girls about it and realize they "had it coming" since they BROKE A RULE! Not to mention I'm sure many of the people that would lose their 'glitched' characters have other mains or alts they could play instead (as long as they were mature about taking their PROPER punishment)... For those who wouldn't take it in a mature manner, you really want them around???

So again, what I "SEE" here is "we care about keeping the current people no matter how scummy they are" "we're more afraid of losing THEM than tarnishing the name of the game/company and losing FUTURE revenue/customers".

I don't think you're looking at "the big picture" here...

... and most of all you think a piddly 2x for one month is going to "make things right"?

Where the F*** do you live man ???

I still think you ("PWI-Team") should PROPERLY PUNISH these ToS violators if you're truly concerned about the future of this game. I don't think you've all clearly thought about the SERIOUS negative repercussions this could have on the entire game. Did you even read my first post ??????? I'm guessing not, because you do know the 'general discontent' with this 'decision' (for F**K sake it's bad enough you have MODS GOING ON A "BREAK" from the game WHAT THE F**K DOES THAT TELL YOU!?) but you just don't give a f**k, because you're more concerned about the possibility of losing your f***ing paycheck if you properly punish people b:shutup

I must say, you people really ARE stupid. The sad thing is, you must think we are too, but we're not... Hence this thread!

Foxy_Fiona - Heavens Tear

paralleogram wrote: »

I think all bans should be removed since some people have already been unbanned

I agree with this. You should have either banned everybody or nobody at all. Unvacationing a select few people 24 hours into their 7 day vacation makes you guys look even more unprofessional. (I can assure you that this was not just a rumor since I also saw it with my own eyes.) Just unvacation them and sweep this thread under the rug so you can pretend none of this ever happened. PWE looks like a bunch of amateurs.

Oh btw... not a **** was given about the 2x exp/spirit. The 100+ crowd is usually more interested in the drops when 2x is turned on. The timing for it couldn't have been more amazing either! A certain game is doing a beta weekend event right after 2x gets switched on and another title is getting released shortly after. Like I said, not a **** was given.

b:bye

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

frankieraye wrote: »

We're going to ahead and turn on 2x EXP/Spirit for one month, from 4/25 to 5/23. I know it's not a solution to this situation, but it should be something that we can build on.

How is 2x exp supposed to help the high levels reach 105? That does pretty much nothing but help the low levels.

I'd much rather have 2x drops. At least that gives me more of a reason to grind.

Also, I have to add... PK in Secret Passage has become rampant again. Why? Because now everybody knows rules here are nothing to bother with and punishment is a joke.

warcrafte

DON'T U GET IT'S NOT 2XEXP it adds x13 on hypers instead of x12 doesn't even give us 2x the exp we get from fc

Kerona - Sanctuary

Some people were 104 before the glitch, and would be 105 now if they had continued. Others on our server legitimately got to 105 (Lust_Dagger).

This is nothing more than a witch hunt being carried out by an angry horde. 103 is not difficult to obtain if you want to do full damage to 105s. As for 105 sins, oh well, but they could have been 105 legitimately by now anyways.

Get over it people, and move on.

As for the people breaking the rules..... uh...... you realize people are still perma banned for other offenses, right?

chaoticshelly

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Some people were 104 before the glitch, and would be 105 now if they had continued. Others on our server legitimately got to 105 (Lust_Dagger).

This is nothing more than a witch hunt being carried out by an angry horde. 103 is not difficult to obtain if you want to do full damage to 105s. As for 105 sins, oh well, but they could have been 105 legitimately by now anyways.

Get over it people, and move on.

As for the people breaking the rules..... uh...... you realize people are still perma banned for other offenses, right?

Has anyone even mentioned or attacked those who legitimately got to 105? No.

It's about the fact that the company will not enforce it's own rules anymore.

Mendolin - Sanctuary

better question: why do you people think that pwi will change? how many times is it going to take for this game to let you down before you decide to quit? i know many people on these forums have been playing for as long as i have... and how many times have you been let down? remember this is a game... and there are plenty more like it with a better development team and staff.

Kerona - Sanctuary

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

Has anyone even mentioned or attacked those who legitimately got to 105? No.

It's about the fact that the company will not enforce it's own rules anymore.

Um... every other page someone demands all 105s deleveled to 103. I don't know how you missed this.

AckIes - Sanctuary

so when is pwi bring goons back :O 105 plox

sweetandkind

AckIes - Sanctuary wrote: »

so when is pwi bring goons back :O 105 plox

This is honestly the best solution. I'm shocked PWI didn't just make it legal considering they promoted it with Charm sales and Hyper sales.

chaoticshelly

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Um... every other page someone demands all 105s deleveled to 103. I don't know how you missed this.

Don't know it trolling or...

They're obviously talking about those who have been abusing the glitch. That can be easily done upon investigating the game logs. b:cute However, the company is rewarding their efforts! Yay!

sweetandkind

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

Don't know it trolling or...

They're obviously talking about those who have been abusing the glitch. That can be easily done upon investigating the game logs. b:cute However, the company is rewarding their efforts! Yay!

Actually fixing the glitch could have been done easily as well but the company didnt want to do that either. They supported the glitch from the start because it drove up charm sales and R9 sales.

Quilue - Sanctuary

Just make a new instance that features the so called "glitch."

I don't see why it had to be fixed in the first place. Mobs spawn, you kill mobs, you get exp...just because it wasn't "intended" doesn't mean it's bad. Change frost so that no dragoons spawn from 2nd boss, make a new instance where dragoons do. Horde of Wraiths.

ResMePls - Heavens Tear

I say start a rebelli0n!!!

Still waiting f0r an answer as t0 why s0me 0f the 105's in maj0r TW fac 0n HT were unbanned...

AckIes - Sanctuary

:O sees ChaoticShelly getting demoted soon maybe? :P xD

GumyBear - Raging Tide

I just realized, ever since Frankie has stepped onto the scene, PWI has been ignoring their players.

I say we vote for a new CM b:bye

myssa311

Listen I don't know what everyone is so upset about...I mean 2x ...c’mon this solves it all. I'm so happy right now. *ends sarcasm*

If I were you I would get a little huddle over there in PW land and figure out how the HELL you’re going to fix this... because that slap in the face was worse than the first one. b:angry

At this point to a lot of people it's goes higher than your lack of technical skills to FIX a damn glitch in your product. It's how you run your business as a whole and if you care about your consumers. However, your actions are showing how you all truly feel, and I’m really feeling now more than ever that this is the beginning of the end to a game I have enjoyed for many years.

frost168

AckIes - Sanctuary wrote: »

:O sees ChaoticShelly getting demoted soon maybe? :P xD

Demoted ?? So far she's the only one with any bit of sense. I say she needs to be promoted.

Someone else needs to be demoted..... cough cough

chaoticshelly

AckIes - Sanctuary wrote: »

:O sees ChaoticShelly getting demoted soon maybe? :P xD

If there's one thing I can say about Frankie, is that he's completely supportive of the mods having their own opinions and if he has a problem with something we've said he knows he can come to us and express it in a friendly manner. Unlike anything you guys might think about him, he's a great guy. He just doesn't work for a great company.

Kerona - Sanctuary

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

Don't know it trolling or...

They're obviously talking about those who have been abusing the glitch. That can be easily done upon investigating the game logs. b:cute

"4-resetting everyone to 103"
"i hoped for a setback to level 103 for all level 105 player that hadn't this level yet"
"why not reset everyone's lvl to 103 ??? no one was higher than 103 before the glitch"
"all you needed to do was reset lvls to 103"
"2 be fair so nurf the 105/104 to 103"
"well what about the idea of nurfing the lvl 105 lvls as a punishment is it possible can a gm give me his opinion about it?"

Not one of these quotes in past 10 pages was qualified with "who used the goons glitch".

chaoticshelly

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

"4-resetting everyone to 103"
"i hoped for a setback to level 103 for all level 105 player that hadn't this level yet"
"why not reset everyone's lvl to 103 ??? no one was higher than 103 before the glitch"
"all you needed to do was reset lvls to 103"
"2 be fair so nurf the 105/104 to 103"
"well what about the idea of nurfing the lvl 105 lvls as a punishment is it possible can a gm give me his opinion about it?"

Not one of these quotes in past 10 pages was qualified with "who used the goons glitch".

Because it goes without saying.

Monkeytoes - Sanctuary

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

"4-resetting everyone to 103"
"i hoped for a setback to level 103 for all level 105 player that hadn't this level yet"
"why not reset everyone's lvl to 103 ??? no one was higher than 103 before the glitch"
"all you needed to do was reset lvls to 103"
"2 be fair so nurf the 105/104 to 103"
"well what about the idea of nurfing the lvl 105 lvls as a punishment is it possible can a gm give me his opinion about it?"

Not one of these quotes in past 10 pages was qualified with "who used the goons glitch".

do they really need to specify that they're talking about goon glitchers in a thread about.....goon glitchers?

Kerona - Sanctuary

lol ok. right.

Every time anyone who is 104/105 posts anyone on forum their opinion is disregarded or they are openly insulted as "dirty glitchers". I'm sure you've seen this. Whether they glitched or not. Whether the person doing the insulting glitched or not. It's scapegoating all the problems in the game on these people.

paralleogram

Why were the lost city insurrect sins unbanned

Monkeytoes - Sanctuary

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol ok. right.

Every time anyone who is 105 posts anyone on forum their opinion is disregarded or they are openly insulted as "dirty glitchers". I'm sure you've seen this. Whether they glitched or not.

yes, there were *some* 105s before the glitch, there were *some* that have since leveled to 105 without ever having gooned, unfortunately for them, the vast majority of 105s got their level via goons, and they've all been lumped together because the gooners far outnumber the legit ones

MrFortySeven - Harshlands

Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »

better question: why do you people think that pwi will change? how many times is it going to take for this game to let you down before you decide to quit? i know many people on these forums have been playing for as long as i have... and how many times have you been let down? remember this is a game... and there are plenty more like it with a better development team and staff.

^^^ THIS ^^^

I have been hearing that even these PW "private servers" people have been talking about (I actually just got a message encouraging me to 'check one out') actually have BETTER "customer service" (and 'events', and an actual "GM presence ~ IN GAME!" //OMG) than what the asshats provide here! (oh but wait, playing on one is against ToS ... ... ... wait a min ... ... ... [who cares])

Honestly, I do not even know why we continue this thread, the asshats at PWE have already made up their minds and they couldn't give a S**T less what we have to say or think about it...

So on that note; unless I see something I just cannot help myself but to respond to - this will probably be my last post on the subject --&-- pending the FINAL outcome of 'this', though, it may be (or become) time to move on (to a p server, or an entirely different game) b:angry

Kerona - Sanctuary

Monkeytoes - Sanctuary wrote: »

yes, there were *some* 105s before the glitch, there were *some* that have since leveled to 105 without ever having gooned, unfortunately for them, the vast majority of 105s got their level via goons, and they've all been lumped together because the gooners far outnumber the legit ones

Maybe it's just me, but lumping everyone together in one group and slapping a "things to rage at' label on them is insulting. "This Faction is full of jerks", "This class is all idiots", "Shut up dirty gooner", blah blah blah

Will perma banning all gooners make the company listen to you more? No. Will it make PvP more interesting/better? No. Will it solve rubberbanding? No.

What will it do? Take paying customers away. How will this effect your gameplay? Less gold, higher prices, less people in instances, less alts to group with for those leveling, emptier servers, blahblahblah

Retsuko - Heavens Tear

All i gotta say is, never play a game that's being run by china.

chaoticshelly

Retsuko - Heavens Tear wrote: »

All i gotta say is, never play a game that's being run by china.

My boyfriend concluded the same statement earlier this morning.

Suiryujin - Sanctuary

so much QQing.
people should learn some world news. this is run by a company in CHINA. if theres a problem, sweep it under the rug and ignore it. as a rule of thumb, anything owned by a company in CHINA thats extended its reach to the US should be taken as something to rake in cash thats to be juiced until such time they either lose the money or get caught falsifying financial statement or other laws in the US. CHINA dont give a damn about anything US related unless its more money to drain back into their company. just play the game if u want, quit if u dont want and expect nothing from pwi. anything "good" that they actually do is always 2 late and 2 little and a token jesture to applease the QQing so they dont have to bother with the forum as much. live with it