105 FC Glitchers will never be banned...

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

gyroki wrote: »

Most ppl, even main addicted, never look into forum. Even i couldnt find the statement of frankie that its not allowed to do it (i asked once community for a link but no1 answered me). TBH to me the 3rd boss glitch looked like a summer event as gv glitch b:laugh

I seriously had the feeling that they want to motivate ppl playing this game during summer time this way. C'mon... the more u hit a boss (the more money u spent on weapon), the more mobs spawn... (and u could only stay alive with hp charms and/or very well refined gear --> u spent alot of money). This rly didnt look like a bug, it looked like an unannounced event. There even was the rumor that they changed frost cz u need lvl 105 for r10 which will be released in near future.

When something is bannable or not allowed they tell it at start screen normally (they changed e.g. the comment about pvp in sp several times). Or they should make at least a sticky thread about it.

And dont tell me "hey, its said in general in the terms of conditions". Cz there is NOT a single person with 100+ char in game who followed all the rules. Cz its common in a game to do what the others do. Or was every1 of u never in a squad for BH3-3 who did it with door glitch? Or was every1 of u never in squad for BH ws who glitched snake? Most of the ppl just call it a "trick". Just read in this thread how casters r making excuses regarding caster glitch. Ofc they benefit ALOT of doing it. And OFC they wont admit it.

so your saying just becouse you did not know your not guilty of a crime cm and mod was telling ppl not to do.

does it work in rl i wonder.

let see go robb a bank and when you do get cought tell police man you did not knew you cant steal money from a bank.

Safeng - Sanctuary

_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »

let see go robb a bank and when you do get cought tell police man you did not knew you cant steal money from a bank.

Oh please. You aren't seriously comparing a glitch in a game to a rl bank robbery that probably involves dead people? Geez, get your reality straight.

And who cares. We all know it made money. And whoever made it to 105 probably spent so much they won't be banned. I wouldn't be so stupid to kill off my money income either. lol
But yea, people need something to QQ about. b:chuckle

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

i spent money darling i have part r9 and i do not farm so how you think i got the armor.
missing two of the full set r9 but yes almost full r9.

they wont kill all the cash shopper i am not 105 so stop acting smart it does not fit you.

the game does need to bann them tho not the glitchers for glitching but more to remind
ppl that they can get banned for breaking tos.

ppl do no longer belive in gm and act without fear from breaking any rules.

this is killing them more then a few bucks here and there or as you would like to say a few r9s.

Safeng - Sanctuary

I didn't say anything of that. Please stop twisting my words.
And I don't know you, so don't call me darling. It makes you look ridiculous.

Anyway, I stated my opinion. No need to go into it further. I'm done with this topic for a while already. Bye.

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

oh look another thread about this worn out topic. I by no means agree with how any of it was handled, but there is a point, which we are well past, that you have to stop crying over things that, in reality, don't matter.

Bashmaster - Raging Tide

All these goonz threads are getting annoying... can frankie like... make people unable to post about them? would be a blessing b:surrender

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

can franky start the banning alredy b:surrender.

it does not stop becouse it is still a hot topic of discusion wish affect the TOS as a whole.

the only affected are the biggest offenders so why do you even care unless you are one of them.

this topic will never fade away untill the offenders get it and franky says its done.

kruze999

Bashmaster - Raging Tide wrote: »

All these goonz threads are getting annoying... can frankie like... make people unable to post about them? would be a blessing b:surrender

Or she could ban everyone who leveled frome 1 to 105 in les then five months.

Mekkhala - Lost City

KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

goons I could care less about... can't make any money from that and levels have been easy ever since hypers wer released.

When are they going to ban all those Caster Nirv glitchers?! Glitchers in caster nirv were spam the glitch to make hundreds of millions by flooding the nirvana market. They were doing this glitch on PVP classes while every one else who chose not to do the glitch couldn't farm nearly as much and had to sell the mats for less.

I lost millions on my aps sin I made for farming nirv WITHOUT GLITCHES. When are those CASTER NIRV GLITCHERS GOING TO BE BANNED!?

A Caster squad that can do 15 min runs 20-30 times a day (assuming nobody has sl or fcks up)

VERSES

A regular NV squad that can spam 4-5 minute, unlimited runs per day.


Gee I wonder who is flooding the market. b:shutup


Edit: And "reg nv doesnt glitch" my ***. How many times have I seen ppl soloing regular NV by logging on multiple accounts? At least in caster the last boss is timed. Unless you have access to a large number of nicely geared arcanes you won't be finishing it. It's not a "glitch" but the regular NV runners aren't exactly innocent.

Anfisa - Lost City

ItsAWolf - Archosaur wrote: »

I don't see why you think following the rules in a game is a bad thing though... Would you prefer everybody bot their way to R9?

You're right, my statement was overly general. But I feel that there are some rules that we shouldn't care about, such as customizing character files. And I don't like the GMs ruining our fun when we manage it find it and yet do whatever the hell they feel like for sales.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

This. Absolutely this.

The reality is that a lot more people used the glitch than you would think, it's just that they didn't make it to lvl 105.

Thanks b:cute

If they are gonna ban at all, they need to do everyone, and then we can see a sharp decline in server population

_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »

you can never ever think like that one always go from what is allowed in a game.

you do not make the rules pwi make the rules and you obey them.

getting r9 was allowed glittching goon was not.

this might be a game but even a game need rules and pwi have to show ppl what they get for breaking them or we have ppl like you making there own rules in pwi game.

Your government has just made it a law that you must shave your head, wear a silly hat at all times, and cut off your left hand. Have fun mindlessly obeying that.

Putting R9 in the cash shop was PWI's ultimate troll. Even more so than removing Anni packs and then putting them back in plus all the other packs. Re: The GMs not giving a damn.

By your logic we must also ban everyone with customized character files, door hackers, tt glitchers, those that used higher levels to get wraithgate robes, abusers of the old spawn times in instances to kill the mobs only once and the bosses multiple time, etc.

Nice empty game we got now.

@your comment to Aesthor: Or Aesthor was just bored and thought **** it. Can't assume like that >.>

Mekkhala - Lost City wrote: »

A Caster squad that can do 15 min runs 20-30 times a day (assuming nobody has sl or fcks up)

VERSES

A regular NV squad that can spam 4-5 minute, unlimited runs per day.

Regular squads isn't really unlimited. Each day they can only get 4 keys.

The problem is the thing to start caster nv is time limited. Need to remove that and make them stackable. And then it would be balanced. Though the trick would need to be fixed =P

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Seriously, some people should read their own posts as a third party. Does it even communicate what you're trying to get across, or are you just typing to kill time?

Have you ever read any of the posts on the Battle of the Immortals forum? The posts over there are so insanely terrible that they make the posts over here look like literary masterpieces. Seriously, I think everyone who posts over there either doesn't speak English natively, or is under the age of 12 and has yet to receive any decent education in regards to spelling and grammar. b:surrender

SoniMax - Sanctuary

BANNING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DID GOONS IS SO 2011 b:bye

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

Anfisa - Lost City wrote: »

You're right, my statement was overly general. But I feel that there are some rules that we shouldn't care about, such as customizing character files. And I don't like the GMs ruining our fun when we manage it find it and yet do whatever the hell they feel like for sales.


Thanks b:cute

If they are gonna ban at all, they need to do everyone, and then we can see a sharp decline in server population


Your government has just made it a law that you must shave your head, wear a silly hat at all times, and cut off your left hand. Have fun mindlessly obeying that.

Putting R9 in the cash shop was PWI's ultimate troll. Even more so than removing Anni packs and then putting them back in plus all the other packs. Re: The GMs not giving a damn.

By your logic we must also ban everyone with customized character files, door hackers, tt glitchers, those that used higher levels to get wraithgate robes, abusers of the old spawn times in instances to kill the mobs only once and the bosses multiple time, etc.

Nice empty game we got now.

@your comment to Aesthor: Or Aesthor was just bored and thought **** it. Can't assume like that >.>


Regular squads isn't really unlimited. Each day they can only get 4 keys.

The problem is the thing to start caster nv is time limited. Need to remove that and make them stackable. And then it would be balanced. Though the trick would need to be fixed =P

i got my r9 cos get this i was killed in less then a mini sec from stun spark aps so no r9 isnt badder then aps was when it come out are you gona say aps is bad also cos it sure broke the game on how ppl farm now.

r9 didnt kill my class aps did and yet i am not even talking about that but about the goon glitch so.

and no matter what one should always fallow and understand the rules never make ur own ones cos aww you do not like them aww poor you.

in any legit contract one always read the small print so you cant complain afterward.

there is no r9 claw and claw/fist is what is making money so how is r9 even important.

shashahah

imo, only banning the "worst" glitchers is unfair to all the others
i mean, what does "worst abusers" mean? goon from 1-105?

in every other game, using bugs is allowed, so why not here?
its part of the game, and if devs cant fix it, they cant just ban ppl for their inability

and @the one who constantly qq's bout "caster glitch" (kagaminerin or w/e)...i guess ur just one of those who aint able to find a squad or unable to do the glitch themselves and hence rage about others profiting from it..thats just low, u know, so please dont bug us with ur whining, thx.

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary

shashahah wrote: »

in every other game, using bugs is allowed, so why not here?
its part of the game, and if devs cant fix it, they cant just ban ppl for their inability

lmao,I have no idea of what games you've been playing,but every half-serious MMORPG in the Internet ban users for glitch/bug abusing.

True that devs never fixed it,but they have found a crappy"Workaround",that still has"Stopped",the abusing,so yeah,glitch has been stopped,now time for bans.

kateblack69

To the Person that stated ask questions to Frankie


Only time frankie actually sat down and answered questions was after DAYS of anarchy on the forums after shelly and grim was made mods. (100+ page **** thread epic)

Frankie wont tell us how they came up with the "worst offenders" cause no one will get banned

Just like anni packs wont return
just like the comp for the DDoS months ago
Just like making gold market stable
just like not putting end game mats in cash shop (Kanto )
Just like frankie said he would be MORE around yet he isnt around at all
Just like TW money was the cause of gold prices rising yet they kept rising

Our Congress has less BS liars than this place does



BTW where is our compensation for the DDoS that took place in june? july?

Quilue - Sanctuary

Let's remind ourselves once again that devs never offered a decent fix because it's PWI's stupid problem for allowing hypers in FCC in the first place..

gyroki

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »

lmao,I have no idea of what games you've been playing,but every half-serious MMORPG in the Internet ban users for glitch/bug abusing.

Every half-serious MMORPG dont need 4-5 months to fix a glitch. And i know no mmorpg which ban u for just using in-game mechanic (w/o attacking server or editing game files or using 3rd party progs/bots). Its a serious issue of this game that abusing glitches is just normal, cz they dont fix anything - and the whole player base is doing it. Im sure its the same thing on cn servers.

As i already said, they should hire well qualified computer scientists and put some money in developement (maybe its already to late cz this takes time).

I'm sure the management can speak/read english. And i'm sure they read the forum quite often (at least i would do it when i would be in a responsible position). So the management know the problem for years and dont take action. The only conclusion i can make of this is, they dont c a long-term future for this game and dont care about it anymore. They must have other projects in the pipeline on which they focus now. At least pw is still a good cash cow so i dont think the servers will be down soon

Quilue - Sanctuary

When's the 11* and 12* orb glitch going to be fixed? We want those in the boutique again without causing client instability!

Traz - Dreamweaver

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

When's the 11* and 12* orb glitch going to be fixed? We want those in the boutique again without causing client instability!

People got so excited they had the orbs they ran around arch which put a strain on the memory leak this client has, which then made people crash much more often. Sadly it's not as far fetched as you might think.

b:pleased

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

People got so excited they had the orbs they ran around arch which put a strain on the memory leak this client has, which then made people crash much more often. Sadly it's not as far fetched as you might think.

b:pleased

I have 16GB memory I don't mind some minor leaks. b:chuckleb:chuckle

Quilue - Sanctuary

Here's some leek for you.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

Here's some leek for you.

b:chuckleb:chuckle Now I know new word.

SkogDyr - Lost City

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

When's the 11* and 12* orb glitch going to be fixed? We want those in the boutique again without causing client instability!

The only reason they were removed wasn't due to client instability...

China got mad at PWE for making r9 +12 too easy to get.
So, China made PWE lose the fast cash way to r9...

then someone at PWE came up with the +11 +12 orb sale. China blew a gasket.
Heads rolled at PWE and someone lost their job title.

"Client Instability" was what the GM was told to pass on to us instead of telling us
that someone in PWE screwed the pooch.

Why do you think "Client Instability" has become such a joke on forums...

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

SkogDyr - Lost City wrote: »

The only reason they were removed wasn't due to client instability...

China got mad at PWE for making r9 +12 too easy to get.
So, China made PWE lose the fast cash way to r9...

then someone at PWE came up with the +11 +12 orb sale. China blew a gasket.
Heads rolled at PWE and someone lost their job title.

"Client Instability" was what the GM was told to pass on to us instead of telling us
that someone in PWE screwed the pooch.

Why do you think "Client Instability" has become such a joke on forums...

We all know that. lolb:chuckle

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary

gyroki wrote: »

Every half-serious MMORPG dont need 4-5 months to fix a glitch. And i know no mmorpg which ban u for just using in-game mechanic (w/o attacking server or editing game files or using 3rd party progs/bots). Its a serious issue of this game that abusing glitches is just normal, cz they dont fix anything - and the whole player base is doing it. Im sure its the same thing on cn servers.

lol sure thing, take excuses like a glitch not being fixed for 4-5 months,like saying,since the bank its not repairing it's safe's lock,I'll keep stealing from it.

Taking dev's incompetence and slowness for an excuse...well I guess everything is good as long as its for justify your actions,right?

Being half serious or not,as long as you play this MMORPG,you're still supposed to follow its rules,or getting banned if not,whatever you think how this game's seriousness.

And what"Game Mechanic",you're talking about?,we can discuss all if you want if that a game's mechanic means everything that's possible to do(Like abusing a glitch),or if that means everything that its supposed to do.
Obviously,a door's lock can be forced,its possible to do so,but its it supposed to be lock-picked?,I don't think so.
Why that glitch wasn't"Supposed",to exist as a"Game Mechanic"?,for the same reason for which it has been "Fixed"(Even if its not the correct term as I said its more than a workaround).
So that so-called"Glitch",has been"Changed",not to be affect player's exp so greatly,this means,without any misunderstanding, it was not supposed to work that way(Or else explain me please why they changed it).

Now,try to give me a logic excuse,since the one you used was clearly a joke and not a rational reason to abuse a glitch.

Humans,too high to admit that they simply wanna do what they freaking want instead of making up nonsense excuses.

Traz - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have 16GB memory I don't mind some minor leaks. b:chuckleb:chuckle

It's not minor.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

Here's some leek for you.

Here's some leak for you too.

Anfisa - Lost City

_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »

i got my r9 cos get this i was killed in less then a mini sec from stun spark aps so no r9 isnt badder then aps was when it come out are you gona say aps is bad also cos it sure broke the game on how ppl farm now.

r9 didnt kill my class aps did and yet i am not even talking about that but about the goon glitch so.

and no matter what one should always fallow and understand the rules never make ur own ones cos aww you do not like them aww poor you.

in any legit contract one always read the small print so you cant complain afterward.

there is no r9 claw and claw/fist is what is making money so how is r9 even important.

Ok, this will probably be my last response to you as dealing with this level of intelligence isn't worth my time and kind of makes me depressed.

When did this become about aps in the first place? R9 broke endgame PVP due to the extreme power gap between it and NV gear.

Before this sale, most sins would only be 2.86 unsparked and 4.0 demon sparked. There were only one or two r8 sins. So I'm not sure why you were dying so fast to the sins at this time. Maybe your gear just sucked so that would be your fault and not aps. Sins as a class are broken, it's not aps. And if you were also dying to fist bms, then lolubad.

I find it kinda sad that you gave in and bought r9 so you could live in pk. Supports my R9 or gtfo statement from earlier, thanks.

BS on claw and fist making PWI more money than rank sale. It made them a good bit before the first rank sale, but after? Not even close.

You said that we should always follow the rules. I guess you're okay with just doing whatever you're told and never question or protest anything. Other people like to think for themselves and see when a ruling or decision is completely dumb and not listen to it. Or not respect those that don't respect you. IE the GMs not caring about the players.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Even more leek

Michael - Harshlands

Actually there where lots of 3.33 unsparked sins pre rank8/9 sales (as you only require the rank4 chest plate to have 3.33 unsparked as a barrier thorn nirvana sin with full APS gears, they achieve 4.0 base with rank8 chest) I will admit they were way more squishy than one would like but they were still effective for nirvana and TT.

I will admit that since the rank8/9 sales the number of APS build sins has risen alot, but thats partly to do with effectiveness rather than anything else (even a 3.33 barrier thorn sin has a hard time killing bms and barbs, but a 2.86 rank9 sin doesnt have the same issues).

Regarding other classes

Rank9 on Blademasters (no significant change over nirvana geared bms for pvp)
Rank9 on Wizards (an increase in damage they sorely needed at endgame for pvp)
Rank9 on Psys (no significant change over full nirvana, psys are refine based not gear based)
Rank9 on Clerics (no significant change over full nirvana, they still need the same sleep debuff try for 1 shot combo as before)
Rank9 on Archers (A significant improvement to DPS and survival one of the larger changes)
Rank9 on Barbarians (no significant change over full nirvana still needs zerk/crit perdition to kill good geared players)
Rank9 on Venomancer (no significant change over full nirvana)

I havent pvped against both full rank9/partial rank9 and full nirvana (seekers and mystics) so I cant say exactly what the changes are for them, im inclined to think that partial/full rank9 seekers will see a significant utility increase over full nirvana due to getting god of frenzy (only available on 6 skills though) on a strong weapon.