105 FC Glitchers will never be banned...

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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    usual vague, half-baked response.

    Sums up frankie pretty well.b:chuckle
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  • KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The caster glitch is not a big deal at all and people need to stop QQing. 5 aps squads can still do it faster and could always spam NV.
    In any case this thread is about CSers not getting banned because they are CSers.
    LOL you're telling to people to stop QQing about glitchers.

    I know of caster glitchers that bragged about how they made hundreds of millions of coins off this glitch in 2x.
    That's money that NON GLITCHERS aren't getting. This is just DESTROYING the Nirv market which actually hurts everyone.
  • Suranda - Sanctuary
    Suranda - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Don't think they have logs that extensive...
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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    LOL you're telling to people to stop QQing about glitchers.

    I know of caster glitchers that bragged about how they made hundreds of millions of coins off this glitch in 2x.
    That's money that NON GLITCHERS aren't getting. This is just DESTROYING the Nirv market which actually hurts everyone.

    You are an idiot. I am QQing about Bans not being handed out. Not glitches.
    I know of 5 aps that brag about how they made hundreds of millions doing a normal nirvana during 2x. What destroyed the nirvana market was 5 aps in the first place.

    You are dumb, You are really dumb, for real.
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  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Huh if it works and nobody gets banned for it, I should set up an alt account to do this...

    Funny enough, when I made my tome and I was buying tokens for 9.9k something at the cheapest shop, and their next set of tokens were set for 99.9k something. Honest mistake or scam? Who knows. Thankfully I didn't buy them in a brain ****.

    Years ago when I first started playing, a faction mate got banned for 3 days or a week or something for doing a similar thing with Crazy Stone gems. When I came back from hiatus a few months ago, I saw the same scam again on an alt account. It wasn't an "extra 0" honest mistake looking thing, so I made a ticket and went to another catshop. The shop was still there for about another week, but I stopped playing that toon so who knows. Could still be there to this day.

    Sad too, because you can make plenty of coin merching or mowing lawns instead of ruining other people's days.
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  • /polIo - Sanctuary81
    /polIo - Sanctuary81 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Considering the size of their company, and its parent company, I would hope they have the space, money and size to keep logs within the past year.

    Pulling bans out would prove to everyone that PWI is willing to go the extra mile to serve its fanbase.
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  • SharkAngel - Heavens Tear
    SharkAngel - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You are an idiot. I am QQing about Bans not being handed out. Not glitches.
    I know of 5 aps that brag about how they made hundreds of millions doing a normal nirvana during 2x. What destroyed the nirvana market was 5 aps in the first place.

    You are dumb, You are really dumb, for real.

    ^This. The caster NV glitch is not the biggest reason for a flooded Nirvana market - its the amount of APS runs that are spammed daily over a long period of 2x.

    Be this a glitch or not, its one of the few things casters have to do multiple runs like the APSers (since the devs wont simply remove or allow the talismans to be stackable and without a time-limit)
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  • kruze999
    kruze999 Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    It would be fair to ban the cheaters who glitch there way up to 105 and according to rules they have to do it but it seems unreal couse there are so many of them and almost all of them have spent hundreds of $ to buy there r9 and if i was a GM i would be as ignorant about this problem as i could.
    Money is money even if it goes against your rules.
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  • LyuKang - Sanctuary
    LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    lolitisthisthreadagain.
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  • KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You are an idiot. I am QQing about Bans not being handed out. Not glitches.

    No I'm NOT goint to shut up about these caster GLITCHERS. Anyone who thinks its "not a big deal" is probably GLITCHING THEMSELVES. I hope all your CASTER GLITCHERS get PERMABANNED.

    That's what PWE should have done when this caster glitch first started being abused.
  • kruze999
    kruze999 Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    There are always people that are good with PhotoShop/Gimp who would edit pictures and post them just to defame another player. That's the main reason why naming and shaming is not allowed. When it's submitted as a ticket, a GM can examine the screenshot closely to determine if there is any form of tampering, and even look back through the logs to verify the story. Without that checking, people could be shunned for no good reason.

    EDIT: Also, I've had an occasion where a shop was selling Tokens as Best Lucks... I submitted a ticket, and no more than 5 minutes later the shop went *poof*.
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No I'm NOT goint to shut up about these caster GLITCHERS. Anyone who thinks its "not a big deal" is probably GLITCHING THEMSELVES. I hope all your CASTER GLITCHERS get PERMABANNED.

    That's what PWE should have done when this caster glitch first started being abused.
    Is this a troll couse it feels like a troll is it a troll? U cant be serious about this!
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited January 2012
    kruze999 wrote: »
    Is this a troll couse it feels like a troll is it a troll? U cant be serious about this!

    Wait... I'm confused about which post your are referring to...
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No I'm NOT goint to shut up about these caster GLITCHERS. Anyone who thinks its "not a big deal" is probably GLITCHING THEMSELVES. I hope all your CASTER GLITCHERS get PERMABANNED.

    That's what PWE should have done when this caster glitch first started being abused.

    I wasn't aware that PWE even knew what a "permaban" was, since it seems that pretty much everyone who gets "banned" is back within a few days. It would be more appropriate to refer to the punishment as a "suspension".

    In reality, the caster glitchers will probably receive the same punishment the dragoon glitchers received, since PWE themselves aren't allowed (as far as I know) to modify anything other than the boutique.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I don't know what's so bad about a lvl 105 wiz that's known to drop +10 gear and pays for my game. That should be a keeper for sure.
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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I don't know what's so bad about a lvl 105 wiz that's known to drop +10 gear and pays for my game. That should be a keeper for sure.

    Meh this game doesn't cost that much to keep running I am sure.
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  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Trolling, don't mind me.
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  • Linc - Raging Tide
    Linc - Raging Tide Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Trolling, don't mind me.

    Quit trolling yo
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  • gyroki
    gyroki Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I don't know what's so bad about a lvl 105 wiz that's known to drop +10 gear and pays for my game. That should be a keeper for sure.

    Some frustrated ex-tri/essence on lc server just want to **** on venge members, especially wadzio, cz they r jealous. They did the same thing (glitched 3rd boss whole day long for weeks/months and offered lvl service for millions), but they just were not that successful in TW and their faction failed. Thats it. Even some pwic members glitched their alts to high lvls (e.g. seeker to 105.... to be able to use their high refined nv gear again, cz their main is full r9/+12 now). Naming Wadzio is just a a red herring.

    The game is full of glitches. All major gamers in this game abuse them, only the casual gamers dont know them. And even many ppl who didnt abuse e.g. the 3rd boss glitch benefit indirectly e.g. by farming herbs and selling anti-stun pots for high prices.
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I SERIOUSLY doubt that half of a certain territory-holding faction on LC is ever going to get banned for glitching fc.
    Frankie should just say "Were not going to ban anyone who glitched FC to 105 if they have spent over $500." Seriously HUGE, and I mean HUGE Cash shoppers seem to have immunity to bans... There's a Certain huge CSing wiz that has been known to drop +10 gear that obviously glitched to 105. Will he ever be banned? NO. Why? Because he splurges real life $$$ on this game. Really getting sick of people getting ban immunity because they CS.



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  • KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    frankieraye wrote: »
    The worst offenders will be banned in the near future. The list is made up of cash shoppers and non-cash shoppers. We won't be able to disclose the names of those banned, but we will let you know when it happens.

    That's good to hear frankie. Are you going to also permaban the worst offenders who abused the Caster Nirvana glitch???
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    frankieraye wrote: »
    The worst offenders will be banned in the near future. The list is made up of cash shoppers and non-cash shoppers. We won't be able to disclose the names of those banned, but we will let you know when it happens.

    Banned banned or temporarily suspended banned? b:shutup
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  • Asgardeus - Sanctuary
    Asgardeus - Sanctuary Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Oh right. In the near future. That in PWE terms means... well you know. b:chuckle

    And lol about the caster vana glitch QQ. What's wrong with casters having the ability to farm as much as they got keys? Or are you worried for your precious aps vana squads making less money? :p
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I SERIOUSLY doubt that half of a certain territory-holding faction on LC is ever going to get banned for glitching fc.
    Frankie should just say "Were not going to ban anyone who glitched FC to 105 if they have spent over $500." Seriously HUGE, and I mean HUGE Cash shoppers seem to have immunity to bans... There's a Certain huge CSing wiz that has been known to drop +10 gear that obviously glitched to 105. Will he ever be banned? NO. Why? Because he splurges real life $$$ on this game. Really getting sick of people getting ban immunity because they CS.
    Of course They will never be banned. That's why I'm using every glitch what I can find in this game.
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  • Ariella_ - Lost City
    Ariella_ - Lost City Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    if goonz taught us anything, its that glitches are fair game.
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    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Bets are now open on the famous "near future" catch phrase of Frankie.

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    The odds are heavily with you if you go with the within 2 years or never option, please mail your coins and which option you're bidding on to "LOLFRANKIELYINGAGAIN".
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  • Ariella_ - Lost City
    Ariella_ - Lost City Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    MOVE CURSOR DAMN YOU!!!


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  • SharkAngel - Heavens Tear
    SharkAngel - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That's good to hear frankie. Are you going to also permaban the worst offenders who abused the Caster Nirvana glitch???

    How can anyone track said glitch users? Its not like dragoons where one can visibly see the effect of its usage. Hell, its also unlikely that the playerbase is going to screencap+ticket those who do either...so unless the actual glitch is fixed, there's no effective way to track who's doing it and who isnt.
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  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    KagamineRin_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks its "not a big deal" is probably GLITCHING THEMSELVES.

    Miss Veno, I don't think it's a big deal for the reasons stated in this thread. Is it a glitch? Yes. Have similar glitches existed in the past? Yes. Does this give casters an unfair advantage? Not as far as I can see.

    And yeah, accuse me of glitching caster NV all you want. I'm off to finish farming my 99 gear now so I have better gear for when I start doing NV... b:chuckle
    SharkAngel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    How can anyone track said glitch users? Its not like dragoons where one can visibly see the effect of its usage. Hell, its also unlikely that the playerbase is going to screencap+ticket those who do either...so unless the actual glitch is fixed, there's no effective way to track who's doing it and who isnt.

    As I understand the glitch, it's trackable. It will just require a bit of work from the GMs. Take that as you might. *shrug*
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  • SharkAngel - Heavens Tear
    SharkAngel - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Ah, then if it is, I stand corrected. I'm quite doubtful that much (if any) effort will go towards tracking/fixing this though.
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  • ViciousMinx - Dreamweaver
    ViciousMinx - Dreamweaver Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    People may say they've ticketed it, but more often than not it's a scare tactic. They think that by saying they've ticketed it (though they would never take the 5 minutes off of Nirvy running), the people would stop doing it. The same thing happened with the goons glitch, and apparently with the same effect.b:shutup

    People just aren't scared of other players saying "I submitted a ticket about the glitch." anymore.b:surrender

    The reason no one is scared about submitting a ticket is this. When live chat was working I sat in the cube for 15 min speaking with a gm about a person pking every one that ported in. For 15 min a gm was aware of the situation and did nothing but to say we will look in to it. After 30 min the person moved on and out of the cube with a comment along the lines of they were done terrorizing noobs for the day. Ticketing system is laughable in regards to reporting glitchers or any other type of TOS breaking behavior. Players can legitimately report a person all day long but if there is no GM follow up it it pointless. Especially if the only follow up is the "we will look in to it" line. Live chat at least provided a chance at letting someone know while the situation was going on but with that kind of response I can see why it was discontinued.

    (I would post the live chat log but of course its against forum rules)

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