IP Address shown in game What are you thinking GMs?

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver

why? ok its there so we can see who's logged in and at what time it was logged in.

Good/ Bad.... everyone has their own opinions on the subject but I guess some just like there opinion more.

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear

*facepalm*

This is useful to see if anyone else had used your account and from where. Let's say that one day it says you logged on from an obscure place at a time where you clearly werent playing. That gives you enough info to send a ticket and start tracking the person who did it.

I'm actually thankful for this.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

Um. Knowing an IP address and that you have PWI installed does not make it more likely that they'll be able to break into your machine.

Having the IP address shown DOES allow you to see "Hang on, someone ELSE was logged into my account while I was away"

It's not like your IP address is a state secret. You're sending it out every time you visit a web-page, or do anything else online - you HAVE to, so that their servers know where to send the data back to.

VenoMKII - Harshlands

Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Um. Knowing an IP address and that you have PWI installed does not make it more likely that they'll be able to break into your machine.

Having the IP address shown DOES allow you to see "Hang on, someone ELSE was logged into my account while I was away"

It's not like your IP address is a state secret. You're sending it out every time you visit a web-page, or do anything else online - you HAVE to, so that their servers know where to send the data back to.

^Perfect post.

If you happen to be mildly paranoid, install a real firewall (Windows Firewall is fail) and learn to monitor your computers state regularly.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Normally I don't complain, However, what were you guys thinking posting our IP Address every time we log into the game. Say our account was **** they now have our IP Address which gives them the opportunity to take more than just our Accounts with PWI. It also gives them away to access our computers. (If it shows it in game it will have it stored somewhere in the files online)

This is a serious bad judgment on your part, and I really hope to see you remove it immediately from the game. The other glitches I can live with but this NO WAY. b:angry

Uh, every time you view a forum signature hosted off this web site, every time visiting a link off this web site, you are giving your IP address and other machine information (OS, browser, etc.) to other people. Every time you log into a vent or have an open skype chat with others you are broadcasting your IP address to others who simply type "cmd" "netstat -n" to see their open connections and find your IP. Do you find yourself constantly giving others "access" to your machine because of this? No, stupid. Save the paranoia.

"Say your account was ****", it would show an IP address or IP mask other than your own or the one you were last logged in at. This is actually a useful security feature. Unfortunately there's always some know-nothing to complain about every single little thing in the game.

TCHP - Lost City

I think this is a nice feature, finally something use full,

It be awesome if the serve could record and restrict you IP address.

Like for instance, modem cable don't change address, so it could restrict my account login to the 111.222.333.xxx meaning only the 3 last digit could change.

They could then do like Steam, send an e-mail, and require a confirmation that your actually the user of that account if you IP change to much.



Now that is a lot more use full then a cheap core client

Miugre - Heavens Tear

TCHP - Lost City wrote: »

Like for instance, modem cable don't change address, so it could restrict my account login to the 111.222.333.xxx meaning only the 3 last digit could change.

This is not strictly true - your external IP can change. In some cases I think you can request that from your ISP. And of course, there are other conditions which could cause that (for instance, I moved a month ago and I naturally got a new external IP).

I mean yeah, you could restrict your login range just to your ISP's full range, but not only does that still let anyone else on your ISP use your account, but it would mean that you couldn't log into your account if you were using any ISP other than your own temporarily (like, if you took your laptop to a friend's house who uses a different ISP, or to a public WiFi location). So, probably more trouble than it's worth.

Your internal IP, on the other hand, is known only to your router and you have to deliberately open ports for specific internal IPs to be vulnerable to any sort of hacking (and even then, the hacker would need to know the port). Now security isn't my strong suit, but I've never heard of a **** that can take control of your PC just by knowing your IP address. I would think they'd at least need to install some kind of control software first. (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that)

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Uh, every time you view a forum signature hosted off this web site, every time visiting a link off this web site, you are giving your IP address and other machine information (OS, browser, etc.) to other people. Every time you log into a vent or have an open skype chat with others you are broadcasting your IP address to others who simply type "cmd" "netstat -n" to see their open connections and find your IP. Do you find yourself constantly giving others "access" to your machine because of this? No, stupid. Save the paranoia.

"Say your account was ****", it would show an IP address or IP mask other than your own or the one you were last logged in at. This is actually a useful security feature. Unfortunately there's always some know-nothing to complain about every single little thing in the game.

Just Because I don't agree with it, does not make me STUPID or a Know Nothing b:angry. I understand that an IP address can be obtained in lots of ways. However they could have put the information of the IP Address somewhere other than plastering it on the actual game page. they could have added it to our very own account right here where we could view all the information in one place. So what If I have an opinion that you don't like, this is where I am allowed to put my concerns. Either way If you do not like what I write don't comment at all. Cause All you manged to prove was your a Jerk who likes to feel big by calling other people Stupid.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

A MMO that I used to play did this already.

Nothing happened in the 6 years I played that game.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This is not strictly true - your external IP can change. In some cases I think you can request that from your ISP. And of course, there are other conditions which could cause that (for instance, I moved a month ago and I naturally got a new external IP).

I mean yeah, you could restrict your login range just to your ISP's full range, but not only does that still let anyone else on your ISP use your account, but it would mean that you couldn't log into your account if you were using any ISP other than your own temporarily (like, if you took your laptop to a friend's house who uses a different ISP, or to a public WiFi location).

Your internal IP, on the other hand, is known only to your router and you have to deliberately open ports for specific internal IPs to be vulnerable to any sort of hacking (and even then, the hacker would need to know the port). Now security isn't my strong suit, but I've never heard of a **** that can take control of your PC just by knowing your IP address. I would think they'd at least need to install some kind of control software first. (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that)

Yes, external IP addresses can and many do change fairly often, especially if the ISP you have uses dynamic IP addressing (most I know use PPPoE). Network addresses mean virtually nothing to anyone else besides those inside a network because a person would first have to compromise a computer in the network with access in order for it to mean something.

Quite a number of people who know very little about computers or networks (i.e. OP) get paranoid over nonsensical things they should probably learn more about first before freaking out over next time.

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Just Because I don't agree with it, does not make me STUPID or a Know Nothing b:angry. I understand that an IP address can be obtained in lots of ways. However they could have put the information of the IP Address somewhere other than plastering it on the actual game page. they could have added it to our very own account right here where we could view all the information in one place. So what If I have an opinion that you don't like, this is where I am allowed to put my concerns. Either way If you do not like what I write don't comment at all. Cause All you manged to prove was your a Jerk who likes to feel big by calling other people Stupid.

I especially give criticism to people who know little about what it is they're talking about and in their own naive panic and paranoia try to worry others. If you don't like an opinion that's more educated on the subject criticizing your post for unnecessary panic spreading, don't post yourself. Maybe you should try learning first before freaking out over a useful (brand new) feature.

KissOfFaith - Lost City

That's why I said like my cable modem.... My cable modem does not change IP.

But My Adsl does every times it log on the ISP.

Yes I have 2 Internet connection.

Also it is why I said e-mail confirmation, even trough it would provide a loop hole to hacker if they also have your e-mail password.

And yes it would restrict it to my ISP, Making the possible number of hacker to 255 knowed IP address.

Even if it's possible to fake and IP address. I believe it would be a lot harder to do.

Oups I'm log on my alt lol

heeper

How soon we forget that PWI has already been **** b:chuckle more then once b:laugh its full of security holes. But to the point it really doesn't need to be there so why display it, I willing to bet 90% don't even know what their IP is or does.

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes, external IP addresses can and many do change fairly often, especially if the ISP you have uses dynamic IP addressing (most I know use PPPoE). Network addresses mean virtually nothing to anyone else besides those inside a network because a person would first have to compromise a computer in the network with access in order for it to mean something.

Quite a number of people who know very little about computers or networks (i.e. OP) get paranoid over nonsensical things they should probably learn more about first before freaking out over next time.



I especially give criticism to people who know little about what it is they're talking about and in their own naive panic and paranoia try to worry others. If you don't like an opinion that's more educated on the subject criticizing your post for unnecessary panic spreading, don't post yourself. Maybe you should try learning first before freaking out over a useful (brand new) feature.

I was fine with the answers here, and after having my computer **** in the past and knowing how easily it can be done. I think my paranoia as it has been put was justified . I was actually going to thank everyone for there responses and for making me feel better about the whole thing until I was called Stupid. Everyone else managed to give there opinions without name calling. And unfortunately IP addresses have never been my strong point, I am more of a graphic art person. Now that I understand things a little better maybe the thread should be closed. Because I didn't come on here to be insulted just because I do not care for the way something has been done.

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver

heeper wrote: »

How soon we forget that PWI has already been **** b:chuckle more then once b:laugh its full of security holes. But to the point it really doesn't need to be there so why display it, I willing to bet 90% don't even know what their IP is or does.

Thank you, there is no reason for it to be displayed.

heeper

Well said mysticpep.b:cool

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

heeper wrote: »

How soon we forget that PWI has already been **** b:chuckle more then once b:laugh its full of security holes. But to the point it really doesn't need to be there so why display it, I willing to bet 90% don't even know what their IP is or does.

First off, if there really is a genuine "****" on an account, having this will alert someone who pays attention. Secondly, for someone who is around family (that may not live in the same house) who use computers and play the same games, or someone who plays from a more public IP range like a school dorm or at school at all, it's another helpful feature. Unfortunate if you can't see it's positive points, but every game is full of security holes. F2P games tend to have more than the more popular P2P, this is widely known.

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I was fine with the answers here, and after having my computer **** in the past and knowing how easily it can be done. I think my paranoia as it has been put was justified . I was actually going to thank everyone for there responses and for making me feel better about the whole thing until I was called Stupid. Everyone else managed to give there opinions without name calling. And unfortunately IP addresses have never been my strong point, I am more of a graphic art person. Now that I understand things a little better maybe the thread should be closed. Because I didn't come on here to be insulted just because I do not care for the way something has been done.

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Thank you, there is no reason for it to be displayed.

The IP address is posted to you and you alone. If you don't like this feature you can ignore it. Don't tell others, however, that there's no reason for it. The fact that you don't know much regarding what you're talking about obviously hasn't stopped you from voicing a rather ridiculous panic-inducing opinion. Hence, you gain the criticism you deserve.

heeper

Stop the press ***NEWS FLASH*** we can only post if JanusZeal agrees to it, because it might start a panic. Oh wait b:chuckle wheres the panic or the rioting b:shocked i don't see one. Dude grow up she was trying to panic anyone that's all in your head.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Oh look I can make an alt account and troll on it. Aren't I cool. b:cute

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

First off, if there really is a genuine "****" on an account, having this will alert someone who pays attention. Secondly, for someone who is around family (that may not live in the same house) who use computers and play the same games, or someone who plays from a more public IP range like a school dorm or at school at all, it's another helpful feature. Unfortunate if you can't see it's positive points, but every game is full of security holes. F2P games tend to have more than the more popular P2P, this is widely known.



The IP address is posted to you and you alone. If you don't like this feature you can ignore it. Don't tell others, however, that there's no reason for it. The fact that you don't know much regarding what you're talking about obviously hasn't stopped you from voicing a rather ridiculous panic-inducing opinion. Hence, you gain the criticism you deserve.

There was no panic induced issue involved, I am not the only one who felt this way, World chat was full of it when the servers came back online but I guess I was the only one that decided to express concern about it on the forums. There was no panic causing PWI people to freak out an stop playing it was just a rant. The first couple of responses explained perfectly well that there was no harm in it. All i want is the information put in a better place where we can monitor the IP changes out of the game. I can see the positive points quite clearly, but again the information would be better used out of game play. But again your all going to come back with some off handed remark about how little I know .

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

I don't know about you, but when I see post saying everyone's account is now compromised that would give me some sense of alarm. I'm gonna have to agree with Janus on this one, a better way to do it would be to ask what the purpose was and is it secure. Instead of writing in an authoritative matter that someone who also didn't know any better might read and believe. If something is said with enough authority, people will believe. It's part of the reason the white house banquet crashers were so successful. They did seem like they belonged there to the security, who should have paid more attention. Of course there are many other stupid reasons they were successful, but still. This is also why the moderators are constantly confused for GMs, due to the fact that they have faster connections to the CMs and are thus sometimes able to relay information quickly, they are able to post with authority on a wide variety of subjects. To the point that people forget they are just players and that they can be and are wrong on occasion. When you post on these forums you open yourself up to criticism and rightfully so as it sometimes prevents disinformation from being spread around. Although, I must agree with pep, there isn't a need for name calling.

/tldr version, be careful of the way you phrase things it can sometimes have unintentional side effects. When you post you are opening yourself to criticism.

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver wrote: »

There was no panic induced issue involved, I am not the only one who felt this way, World chat was full of it when the servers came back online but I guess I was the only one that decided to express concern about it on the forums. There was no panic causing PWI people to freak out an stop playing it was just a rant. The first couple of responses explained perfectly well that there was no harm in it. All i want is the information put in a better place where we can monitor the IP changes out of the game. I can see the positive points quite clearly, but again the information would be better used out of game play. But again your all going to come back with some off handed remark about how little I know .

The reason the information is better provided in game is that not everyone uses the forums. In fact, every maintenance someone makes a thread asking why the servers are down, and someone else makes on asking if it's indeed maintenance. Every.single.patch. This is because the vast majority of the playerbase just wants to play the game, not talk about it all the time. So if they do happen to wonder in here, they don't know how to use it and make errors in judgement on how/where/and what to post. By putting it in game, everyone has access to the information.

Lorddrakan - Harshlands

noob question but where do i find out MY ip adress in regards to PWI as i was recently **** and PWI won't tell me who it was and i would like to know xD

heeper

Troll? Someone posts an opinion and you degrade them call them names an I'm the troll. wow aren't you delusional, I wanna be just like you. Let me find my pocket protector and taped up glasses.b:embarrass

FiveAps - Dreamweaver

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Normally I don't complain, However, what were you guys thinking posting our IP Address every time we log into the game. Say our account was **** they now have our IP Address which gives them the opportunity to take more than just our Accounts with PWI. It also gives them away to access our computers. (If it shows it in game it will have it stored somewhere in the files online)

This is a serious bad judgment on your part, and I really hope to see you remove it immediately from the game. The other glitches I can live with but this NO WAY. b:angry

you're waaaaay to paranoic for nothing.
If someone broke into your account, I'm pretty sure he knows your password and you're already **** at your uber secret atomic bunkered safe forever to watch **** location and PC...
Sheesh, talking about ungrateful sobs overreacting to stuff, here is why sometimes you think the devs are not fixing/adding stuff on purpose. Why do it ? to give a new qq reason to paranoic and immature crybabies?

Decus - Dreamweaver

Oh look, uneducated complaints! What else is new?

Mysticpep - Dreamweaver

Thank you all for your responses, I have noticed one thing. it doesn't show any previous log in's when you go into PWI just the date an time of that particular log in. So hopefully PWI will let us know how to find out this information.

Barunaa - Heavens Tear

if a hacker hacks ur account and checks the last logged IP then now he knows both ur account AND ur IP address. good job.

if the guy has any kind of computer skill he will know how to make use of that IP and it wont be a good thing.

yes there are sites (like this one) that tracks ur IP information. but those same sites do not give that info out publicly. prepared to get DDOSed hardcore if someone does **** ur acc. and i feel sry for the ppl with static IPs that cant change there IPs on the fly.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

if a hacker hacks ur account and checks the last logged IP then now he knows both ur account AND ur IP address. good job.

if the guy has any kind of computer skill he will know how to make use of that IP and it wont be a good thing.

yes there are sites (like this one) that tracks ur IP information. but those same sites do not give that info out publicly. prepared to get DDOSed hardcore.

The type of hacker you are embellishing would be able to **** your e-mail associated with your account and get your IP address by reading your e-mail headers too. How ridiculous do we wanna get?

It's pretty funny that the people chiming in to criticize this know two things about network security: jack and ****.

Edit: To your edit I just added in, who says your IP that PW shows is visible publicly? Tin foil hats, everyone. It's just a red message that appears when you log in, to you and only you.

Barunaa - Heavens Tear

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The type of hacker you are embellishing would be able to **** your e-mail associated with your account and get your IP address by reading your e-mail headers too. How ridiculous do we wanna get?

It's pretty funny that the people chiming in to criticize this know two things about network security: jack and ****.

you can still get DDOSed to. and usually those kinds of ppl wouldnt bother if *gasp* they didnt know ur IP in the first place which now they do.

To your edit I just added in, who says your IP that PW shows is visible publicly? Tin foil hats, everyone. It's just a red message that appears when you log in, to you and only you.

if a hacker does **** ur account and sees ur IP address freely then he wont have to go throuh the pain of getting it from other means. thats the point. most hackers are just content with hacking ur acc, but if they are given IP address that easily as well then that just gives them more ways to mess with u.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

you can still get DDOSed to. and usually those kinds of ppl wouldnt bother if *gasp* they didnt know ur IP in the first place which now they do.




if a hacker does **** ur account and sees ur IP address freely then he wont have to go throuh the pain of getting it from other means. thats the point. most hackers are just content with hacking ur acc, but if they are given IP address that easily as well then that just gives them more ways to mess with u.

Why would some super elite hacker **** my computer just to get my pwi stuff and then not even attempt to see if they can get into my email too for more stuff?

Barunaa - Heavens Tear

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Why would some super elite hacker **** my computer just to get my pwi stuff and then not even attempt to see if they can get into my email too for more stuff?

why do ppl think its some "super elite hacker" ?

the IP is given to u FOR FREE when they log on to ur account from a keylog or something. it doesnt take a super elite hacker to know that u can do some stuff with that IP.

these types of ppl wouldnt get ur IP normally, but now its givent to them freely basically. thats my point.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

you can still get DDOSed to. and usually those kinds of ppl wouldnt bother if *gasp* they didnt know ur IP in the first place which now they do.

why do ppl think its some "super elite hacker" ?

the IP is given to u FOR FREE when they log on to ur account from a keylog or something. it doesnt take a super elite hacker to know that u can do some stuff with that IP.

these types of ppl wouldnt get ur IP normally, but now its givent to them freely basically. thats my point.

If someone wants to get your IP all they have to do is link an off-site image file in their forum signature while sending a PM to you, or start a skype chat or vent chat with you, or send you an e-mail that gets returned, and bam, they have your IP. There are countless ways to get an IP address especially by doing random port scans and traceroutes. There is little to no danger at all about showing a red message when people log in the game that broadcasts to them personally their last log-in info. How many fricken e-mail providers like Gmail and Yahoo and MSN do the same, especially alerting you when they see an IP log-in either through a method (POP3/browser) you never log in with, or with an IP you never log in with? You have seriously added a substantial amount of hyperbole to the danger of this, due to your own lack of education on the subject. And so far, every single person who has done the same has also demonstrated they know little on the subject..

lol @ paranoid people.