My concerns, Frankie.

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  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sabatier - Raging Tide wrote: »
    perhaps if your pm is free of expletives and explosive rhetoric you get a faster response?

    just a thought.

    Incorrect, fish.
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I agree with Frankie. You are all a bunch of raving lunatics. The community in the forums just plain sucks.


    Frankie, uphold this, and I believe everything else will fall in place.


    You may not use the Perfect World International (PWI) Forums to:

    1. Transmit unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable content. Profanity filter dodging and filtered words/statements with clear vulgar intent will also be considered outright violations.


    I'm sure a forum full of suck ups who try to get up officers' asses & pretend everything is fine & keep stuff quiet is good in your view.

    - the occasion spammers & trolls, the players tried to approach what they percieved as problems in a sensible, civil way. That didn't quite work; now time for some rage.

    Ravin lunatics? Sure, but guess who was at fault for that? Most of the board didn't just go "Oh hey what a boring day, let's cause a massive rage on the forums for teh lolz"; though some of it was quite fun.
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  • Rhyme - Harshlands
    Rhyme - Harshlands Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    We should impeach frankie
  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sabatier - Raging Tide wrote: »
    perhaps if your pm is free of expletives and explosive rhetoric you get a faster response?

    just a thought.

    So what you're saying is they go on checking their inbox like this:
    - Oh look, this pm's title is "My concerns". Its theirs, not mine. Next... This other's title is "To Frankie". Oh its for me, I'll read it then. Oh snap. It was just to say hi b:chuckle

    I think what they actually do is read them in the order they get them. However, I also think that they get so many, it gets hard to reply to them all b:surrender Which, if is the case, they should know better not to ask people to PM them with their concerns then
    Madness?

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  • gross1255
    gross1255 Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Rhyme - Harshlands wrote: »
    We should impeach frankie

    Yush, we have rights! Down with these communists!

    /sarcasm
  • Sabatier - Raging Tide
    Sabatier - Raging Tide Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    zap.. i was being sarcastic. i will know better next time to add a smiley

    to the others. grow up and stop using character level to belittle people. you do nothing to further your case or make yourself look mature. except in your own eyes i suppose. thanks for the comments i will choose to ignore them and continue to post as i wish. flame on if you wish. it bothers me not.

    ijs
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  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sabatier - Raging Tide wrote: »
    zap.. i was being sarcastic. i will know better next time to add a smiley

    to the others. grow up and stop using character level to belittle people. you do nothing to further your case or make yourself look mature. except in your own eyes i suppose. thanks for the comments i will choose to ignore them and continue to post as i wish. flame on if you wish. it bothers me not.

    ijs

    Your level only complimented the stupidity of your statement.
  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I do think things have been taken far enough by the upset players. The posting of horrible links and pictures is NOT going to accomplish anything more than making the mods/GMs/whatever work harder, meaning they will probably miss more such threads, which people then critisize them for. There was SO much **** all over all the forums yesterday, how do you people expect a few mods (NEW mods, might I add) to take care of it all?

    Now, I'm not defending anyone, or taking sides. Unless acting like adults and ending the now-overly-ridiculous rioting is taking a side. Let's restore some sanity, hm? How are the mods/GMs supposed to be able to answer their PMs (which I'm sure there are thousands by now), answer all the questions that have been posted in probably DOZENS of threads (most of which are probably locked for various reasons), delete/lock the dozens (if not hundreds) or horrible threads, ban people that deserve it (who keep making more alts to ban), and take care of their other duties to the company? I can't see how they're supposed to be able to keep up at this pace. And now that the mods have been "sent out of the room", now there's even fewer people cleaning up.

    I won't call anyone any names, but I do think some people need to chill out, take a deep breath, and go do something else for a while. Because at this point, there's absolutely no good being done. The concerns will not be heard at this point, and why should they be listened to right now? They have more important things to do, like delete/lock/move the multitude of trash threads. Maybe they'll listen when the majority of posters are behaving like adults again. And maybe not. But they certainly don't do it while all this chaos is going on.

    /rant that will probably go unheeded, or will be called asskissing.
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sabatier - Raging Tide wrote: »
    zap.. i was being sarcastic. i will know better next time to add a smiley

    to the others. grow up and stop using character level to belittle people. you do nothing to further your case or make yourself look mature. except in your own eyes i suppose. thanks for the comments i will choose to ignore them and continue to post as i wish. flame on if you wish. it bothers me not.

    ijs

    After reading some of your previous posts to different people, that seemed far from sarcastic. So yeah, for your own benefit, include a little /sarcasm tag.

    Also, if you're going to prance around about how you'll continue to post as you wish, why are you bothering to tell other people to post in a way you'd prefer them to? If you want people to post in a particular way to make you feel better, you should do the same. IJS.

    Also, I decided it didn't matter whether I looked mature or not when Frankie ignored my honesty and civility that I used to post with in threads that have since been locked and depth'd because he'd rather not stare at them and be reminded of what an ******* he is. When Frankie starts being mature and stops ignoring the things that doesn't suit him, he can expect other people to get mature.
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  • Sabatier - Raging Tide
    Sabatier - Raging Tide Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    lol thank you. it's nice to know i make such an impression on the fallen hero
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  • chaoticrampage
    chaoticrampage Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Are you guys done with the fish, I think she's had enough by now. Also, where's Frankie? I ordered my answers forever ago!

    (And no, I'm not defending the fish, I just don't want another Psychossis fiasco.)
  • chaoticrampage
    chaoticrampage Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sabatier - Raging Tide wrote: »
    lol thank you. it's nice to know i make such an impression on the fallen hero

    Ok **** it... Sabatier you need to shut up, you're just talking out of your *** at this point. When you have a valid opinion feel free to speak up, but until then you should consider not posting.
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    chaoticrampage wrote: »
    Are you guys done with the fish, I think she's had enough by now. Also, where's Frankie? I ordered my answers forever ago!

    (And no, I'm not defending the fish, I just don't want another Psychossis fiasco.)

    He'll be at daycare for another few hours.

    Was I talking about frankie or Psychossis? YOU decide!
  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    chaoticrampage wrote: »
    Ok **** it... Sabatier you need to shut up, you're just talking out of your *** at this point. When you have a valid opinion feel free to speak up, but until then you should consider not posting.

    He is Sabatier and he will NOT be silenced.

    b:pleased
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    Making "non-trash-talkers" show their true color. RAGE ON! b:laugh
  • Sabatier - Raging Tide
    Sabatier - Raging Tide Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    thanks for the save Zan. but if they wish to keep bashing me for a perceived slight it is no skin of my nose. words only hurt if you believe them to be true.
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  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sabatier - Raging Tide wrote: »
    thanks for the save Zan. but if they wish to keep bashing me for a perceived slight it is no skin of my nose. words only hurt if you believe them to be true.

    You have gills not skin.
  • Sabatier - Raging Tide
    Sabatier - Raging Tide Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    i think someone stopped being able to tell video game from reality a while ago. but any more piscean insults you can come up with would be nice to hear. a bit of humour after what has gone on in the forums the past couple of days would be a welcome relief.
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  • chaoticrampage
    chaoticrampage Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sabatier - Raging Tide wrote: »
    thanks for the save Zan. but if they wish to keep bashing me for a perceived slight it is no skin of my nose. words only hurt if you believe them to be true.

    I wasn't saving you, I was merely trying to get you to be quiet before you make a bigger fool of yourself while trying to argue with Airyll and NightRage, both of which are far more intelligent than you. So far everything they've said about you is true, so maybe you should heed my words and shut it.
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    He is Sabatier and he will NOT be silenced.

    b:pleased

    icwutudidthar
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Katzyn - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I do think things have been taken far enough by the upset players. The posting of horrible links and pictures is NOT going to accomplish anything more than making the mods/GMs/whatever work harder, meaning they will probably miss more such threads, which people then critisize them for. There was SO much **** all over all the forums yesterday, how do you people expect a few mods (NEW mods, might I add) to take care of it all?

    Now, I'm not defending anyone, or taking sides. Unless acting like adults and ending the now-overly-ridiculous rioting is taking a side. Let's restore some sanity, hm? How are the mods/GMs supposed to be able to answer their PMs (which I'm sure there are thousands by now), answer all the questions that have been posted in probably DOZENS of threads (most of which are probably locked for various reasons), delete/lock the dozens (if not hundreds) or horrible threads, ban people that deserve it (who keep making more alts to ban), and take care of their other duties to the company? I can't see how they're supposed to be able to keep up at this pace. And now that the mods have been "sent out of the room", now there's even fewer people cleaning up.

    I won't call anyone any names, but I do think some people need to chill out, take a deep breath, and go do something else for a while. Because at this point, there's absolutely no good being done. The concerns will not be heard at this point, and why should they be listened to right now? They have more important things to do, like delete/lock/move the multitude of trash threads. Maybe they'll listen when the majority of posters are behaving like adults again. And maybe not. But they certainly don't do it while all this chaos is going on.

    /rant that will probably go unheeded, or will be called asskissing.

    Best part of your whole wall in red. And it's not a maybe. We've been there and done that.
  • DeadSound - Lost City
    DeadSound - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oh look, it's the 3x noob who's clearly never actually tried to PM Frankie anything, be it polite, civil, nice or absolutely raging.

    Perhaps if your post is free of stupid, more people listen?

    IJS.

    Airyll was that really necessary?
    I understand your steamed at the situation, however some of the things you have posted during the recent situation has surprised me. Not your behavior you've always been one of the harsher members of the forum, just some of the things you agreed with during this mess, just for the sake of making Frankie look bad.
    Normally i would have backed your arguments since most of the things you post are typically logical and just, but this mess has changed a lot of people i guess.
    Yes i know my avatar says I'm a 4x sin but i have been playing pwi for a year and a half now, this being my second account. I have always kept a watchful eye over these forums with under two accounts, but recent events have brought me out of lurking.
    With that said my avatar should have nothing to do with my right to voice my opinion, i'm just as much as part of a community as you are higher lvl or not.
  • DeadSound - Lost City
    DeadSound - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Also what happened to this free speech movement you all were going on about? Now only intelligent players with high post counts can voice there opinion? Give me a break.

    You guys have become as corrupt as the people who started this mess.
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    DeadSound - Lost City wrote: »
    Also what happened to this free speech movement you all were going on about? Now only intelligent players with high post counts can voice there opinion? Give me a break.

    You guys have become as corrupt as the people who started this mess.

    Are you trying to say fishy isn't intelligent? That's not very nice.
  • DeadSound - Lost City
    DeadSound - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ragenight wrote: »
    Are you trying to say fishy isn't intelligent? That's not very nice.

    was referring too


    chaoticrampage wrote: »
    I wasn't saving you, I was merely trying to get you to be quiet before you make a bigger fool of yourself while trying to argue with Airyll and NightRage, both of which are far more intelligent than you. So far everything they've said about you is true, so maybe you should heed my words and shut it.


    I suppose he didn't call fishy unintelligent exactly, but my point still stands. b:chuckle
  • chaoticrampage
    chaoticrampage Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    DeadSound - Lost City wrote: »
    Also what happened to this free speech movement you all were going on about? Now only intelligent players with high post counts can voice there opinion? Give me a break.

    You guys have become as corrupt as the people who started this mess.

    So you support the troll? Why are you defending someone that's trolling a thread that has a legitimate purpose? I made this thread so I could get some answers from Frankie, not for it to be trolled all to hell by someone with below average intelligence.
  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    DeadSound - Lost City wrote: »
    Also what happened to this free speech movement you all were going on about? Now only intelligent players with high post counts can voice there opinion? Give me a break.

    You guys have become as corrupt as the people who started this mess.

    Its the circle of life

    chaoticrampage wrote: »
    Also, where's Frankie? I ordered my answers forever ago!

    Patience, patience. He's probably busy with stuff or brushing his teeth... Oh snap b:shutup
    Madness?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • chaoticrampage
    chaoticrampage Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary wrote: »



    Patience, patience. He's probably busy with stuff or brushing his teeth... Oh snap b:shutup

    Psh, answers delivered in 30 minutes or no bans for a week! >:O
  • I_sage_i - Harshlands
    I_sage_i - Harshlands Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    frankieraye wrote: »
    After the severe backlash to the mods, I asked them to leave threads in general discussion alone, lest they incite more riots. I told them I'd handle them personally, which is why some threads were left open longer than they should have been, as I can't be online and patrolling at every moment.

    This is what shelly was referring to

    did you really send a virus link to that TB girl (whos name i forgot)
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    DeadSound - Lost City wrote: »
    Airyll was that really necessary?
    I understand your steamed at the situation, however some of the things you have posted during the recent situation has surprised me. Not your behavior you've always been one of the harsher members of the forum, just some of the things you agreed with during this mess, just for the sake of making Frankie look bad.
    Normally i would have backed your arguments since most of the things you post are typically logical and just, but this mess has changed a lot of people i guess.
    Yes i know my avatar says I'm a 4x sin but i have been playing pwi for a year and a half now, this being my second account. I have always kept a watchful eye over these forums with under two accounts, but recent events have brought me out of lurking.
    With that said my avatar should have nothing to do with my right to voice my opinion, i'm just as much as part of a community as you are post count or not.

    Eh.

    I've lost a lot of patience with this whole mess. Kanto's insulting statement that hasn't gone answered for despite the fact they will ban forum members for less, such poor choices of moderator that it hurts (and trust me, as an acting admin of two other forums and moderator on a good three others, it hurts to see such ****ty choices being made) among other things.

    I've never been the nicest of people on these forums. Never ever. If I am known for one thing it's probably my harshness. And I'll agree with you. I've gotten very out of line in several instances, perhaps, or maybe agreed with things that seem highly out of character.

    I don't agree with the ****, the viruses, the sheer vulgarity in so many trash threads. But at the same time I am not going to deny the reasons behind their posting. I don't agree with what they post, but I will agree with why, and as such this means I am in no position to tell them to **** and be civil. Because we have all tried being civil.

    I won't deny that I should have been banned for my behaviour well before the **** thread. That is genuinely how out of line I have proven to be, and people have seen it. Yet, here I am, not banned despite the fact I can't fathom why, and here I am watching the results of bad choices and incompetence - things that people like me and Reds foresaw. It was so easy to see how a bad choice of moderator would break neglected and volatile forums.

    Well, voila. It's happened.

    Perhaps there was no need for that. Perhaps you are exactly right. In fact in several cases, you probably are. But at this point I am tired of being civil or honest, whether I was harsh or not; it was only ever ignored in the past even when multiple people supported and agreed with my statements.

    When Frankie is mature enough to answer these very valid questions, and mature enough to communicate properly even if that means admitting he was wrong, and in this instance he was really ****ing wrong, then I for one will start to be a little bit more mature myself. When Frankie proves he's not sitting on his pompous little throne staring down at us all from on high as if we aren't good enough for the likes of him, and when he starts coming down and meeting us face to face and addressing us as his community, then will I start showing him respect. Then, when he proves he can be mature, will I start to be mature myself.
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  • DeadSound - Lost City
    DeadSound - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    chaoticrampage wrote: »
    So you support the troll? Why are you defending someone that's trolling a thread that has a legitimate purpose? I made this thread so I could get some answers from Frankie, not for it to be trolled all to hell by someone with below average intelligence.

    Im not supporting anybody at this point. In fact if i were to be taking a side i would lean toward the side arguing with the cm for there lack of ability to handle these forums. Reason for defending this "troll" is because you guys ruin any chance to be taken seriously whenever anybody disagrees with you. It was that kind of attitude that started the wildfire in the first place. Something i think DIDNT need to happen.


    also what's the best way to get rid of a troll? i know for a fact its not trying to argue with it. c'mon guys.
  • chaoticrampage
    chaoticrampage Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    DeadSound - Lost City wrote: »
    Im not supporting anybody at this point. In fact if i were to be taking a side i would lean toward the side arguing with the cm for there lack of ability to handle these forums. Reason for defending this "troll" is because you guys ruin any chance to be taken seriously whenever anybody disagrees with you. It was that kind of attitude that started the wildfire in the first place. Something i think DIDNT need to happen.


    also what's the best way to get rid of a troll? i know for a fact its not trying to argue with it. c'mon guys.

    Have you noticed that most who disagree with us do nothing but troll us? Maybe one or two people have actually come up with valid counterarguments against those that are enraged at the current forum staff and how the forums are run at the moment.

    When someone actually says something with thought behind it they're taken seriously and responded to with a thought out post instead of just being trolled.
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