New TW pay system

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  • Egaenil - Heavens Tear
    Egaenil - Heavens Tear Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I totally agree with Knownase, that's why they have blessing now, so ppl can die more easily, charm can be ticked easily hence the charm sale too, all this = more profit.

    Lets say just for tw there will be roughly (80+80) x 2 x 6 severs = thats roughly 2k plat charm for one week, plat charm at 5 gold each, $5 x 2k that is $10k a week just from charm sale.
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  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    btw Adeacia is the infamous pve hugger know it all Zoe
    on another note, we got way too many bloody worthless mirages, and yah ive been lookin at cn forums saw this seems interesting but bad in some ways
    they also gave more info on coming jungle ruins, interesting revamp(2nd topic on it not 1st) new ornament coming with it too

    i feel bad for cata barbs soon,
    and bidding seems to be silent auction like said, also the gank system is gonna be changed, but i cant understand exactly how
  • Shevanel - Sanctuary
    Shevanel - Sanctuary Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I think charms make pvp incredibly exciting. Sure its fun oneshotting things occasionally, but when you cant or dont have time ti pull off a sparked ulti, it really comes down to the skill of beint able to kill somethiing from full HP in ten seconds. It takes skill (when you don't have ridiculous refines) to set yourself up with the right amount of chi/enemies HP.

    Charms shoukd never be taken out if the game.
    Koiz - omfg my life is now complete
    Shevanel - haha oh?
    ~~~
    Koiz - i took this massive dump
    Koiz - while listening to im on a boat hahahah
    Shevanel - hahahahaha
    Shevanel - haha
    Shevanel - Oh wow

    Certain levels of Boredom..
    ThaMessiah: I'd rather endlessly wack it till I shot a load that hits my ceiling than do a 3-2
  • cybluerr
    cybluerr Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Max bid of 200mil and bidding not announced...lol. So every bid on a land will be 200mil now? b:chuckle

    Oh and if there are multiple bids of 200mil only the faction that bid first will win it, the others wont get a refund.

    As for the rewards, i'm not sure how its going to work after reading it. It seems like after the 'normal' land reward has been given out, additionally the system will random choose one lucky land each week and give out a special reward depending on the Tier of the land that was randomly chosen.
    Anyone who can understand it better please explain b:surrender
  • Egaenil - Heavens Tear
    Egaenil - Heavens Tear Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    cybluerr wrote: »
    Max bid of 200mil and bidding not announced...lol. So every bid on a land will be 200mil now? b:chuckle

    Oh and if there are multiple bids of 200mil only the faction that bid first will win it, the others wont get a refund.

    As for the rewards, i'm not sure how its going to work after reading it. It seems like after the 'normal' land reward has been given out, additionally the system will random choose one lucky land each week and give out a special reward depending on the Tier of the land that was randomly chosen.
    Anyone who can understand it better please explain b:surrender

    I thought NO one get refund
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  • plays2much
    plays2much Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Last point basically means = No refund

    This sounds really harsh. That means you can bid 150 mil and lose it all and get nothing. Most serious bidders will prob have to bid 200 mil now, but what happens if 2 or more groups bid 200 mil?

    EDIT: Nvm, somebody else posted the exact same thing.
  • Egaenil - Heavens Tear
    Egaenil - Heavens Tear Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    well thing is, most TW faction using tw fund to bid, so by taking out tw pay money, and having no refund, that means tones of coins are dispearing from the sever every week, that means the gold price will fall, or at least stable..

    In a way it is solving the issue with reduced DQ price, I mean coins will worth more.
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  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I would be in heaven with 200k off my charm....Right now a GOOD 3hr war takes 3/4 of a Plat HP (do not get me started on MP charm), pots, etc...and I tick 5k a tick on HP charm...b:shutup

    At the same time though, you should not have to relie on TW "pay" to get charms and such, if you are then maybe TW is not right for you. TBH, I know more then a few people who have quit but they log in once a week just for TW. b:surrender

    Pfft, imagine 2 Good 3hour tw a week...zzzz it gets boring b:sad


    ...I hate Ehee b:angry
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    eatswithspoons "*roll eyes* real money for virtual property? That's definitely not allowed"

    Lol what?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Pfft, imagine 2 Good 3hour tw a week...zzzz it gets boring b:sad


    ...I hate Ehee b:angry

    You and I have both been there...tbh I cannot see that happening soon...At least where I am at, you all have it much harder atm b:sadb:surrender
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  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    You and I have both been there...tbh I cannot see that happening soon...At least where I am at, you all have it much harder atm b:sadb:surrender


    I...I wish spec didn't hate us so much b:cry
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    eatswithspoons "*roll eyes* real money for virtual property? That's definitely not allowed"

    Lol what?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I...I wish spec didn't hate us so much b:cry

    b:sadb:surrenderb:cry

    We hate the crystal walks tbh.... :(
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Let me just translate for all you non-Chinese reading people:

    Rules of TW:
    1.There will be no more System Annoucements saying which faction and how much they have bid on a land
    2.Minimum bid amount is now:100k coins and maximum bid amount is 2billion coins
    3.Each Land can be bid on by multiple guilds.Results of who the highest bidder is will be announced on Thrusday.As per normal,the winners of the Territory War will be annouced after the battle
    4.If a faction bids for a land unsuccesfully,there will no longer be a refund of coins to the faction
    5.If multiple factions bid the same amount on a piece of land at the end of the bidding time,the faction that bids the earliest will win the bid.The rest of the factions who lost the bid will not be refunded

    The above mentioned rules will make Territory Wars more exciting,allowing the playstyles and strategies of players to become stronger and even more showing how players manage their logistics.

    Wait,there's more about TW

    Time Rules

    If a faction holds multiple lands,the system will organize the battles based on the times that the bidding factions decide to fight.

    Example:Faction A has multiple lands and Factions B,C and D want to attack the lands of Faction A.So,if Faction B,C and D decide to attack the lands of Faction A at the same time,the System will as much as possible put the 3 battles at the same timings

    The change of the rules is mainly to increase the difficulty of defending multuiple lands and to increase the intensity of Territory Wars and tactics required in Territory Wars,allowing all faction to have a chance to participate in the exciting Territory Wars

    AND wait,there's even more

    Prizes of TW:
    1.Weekly cash rewards will not be given out and it will be changed to in-game Equipment
    2.Before giving out the Equipment rewards every week,the System will choose a land to receive a special prize.

    The new prizes will allow the faction to expand in power.Mirage Stones are a must in refining to increase the refinement level of Weapons and Armours.When a weapon is refined,its attributes will be guranteed an increase.Also,the randomness of getting the Ultimate Prize increases the fun and interestingness of Territory Wars and allowing Factions with less land to get the Medal Of Honor

    The new Perfect World Territory War Rules will allow Territory Warsto be more fired up.Let Territory Wars accompany you through this hot yet exciting summer,bringing up your passion and beyond your wildest dreams.Kill to your heart's content at the PErfect World Territory Wars,striving for the ultimate glory that is yours.What are you waiting for?Join us now!

    My translations might sounds a bit weird but I don't know how else to put it.And my head hurts now
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Let me just translate for all you non-Chinese reading people:

    Rules of TW:
    1.There will be no more System Annoucements saying which faction and how much they have bid on a land
    2.Minimum bid amount is now:100k coins and maximum bid amount is 2billion coins
    3.Each Land can be bid on by multiple guilds.Results of who the highest bidder is will be announced on Thrusday.As per normal,the winners of the Territory War will be annouced after the battle
    4.If a faction bids for a land unsuccesfully,there will no longer be a refund of coins to the faction
    5.If multiple factions bid the same amount on a piece of land at the end of the bidding time,the faction that bids the earliest will win the bid.The rest of the factions who lost the bid will not be refunded

    The above mentioned rules will make Territory Wars more exciting,allowing the playstyles and strategies of players to become stronger and even more showing how players manage their logistics.

    Wait,there's more about TW

    Time Rules

    If a faction holds multiple lands,the system will organize the battles based on the times that the bidding factions decide to fight.

    Example:Faction A has multiple lands and Factions B,C and D want to attack the lands of Faction A.So,if Faction B,C and D decide to attack the lands of Faction A at the same time,the System will as much as possible put the 3 battles at the same timings

    The change of the rules is mainly to increase the difficulty of defending multuiple lands and to increase the intensity of Territory Wars and tactics required in Territory Wars,allowing all faction to have a chance to participate in the exciting Territory Wars

    AND wait,there's even more

    Prizes of TW:
    1.Weekly cash rewards will not be given out and it will be changed to in-game Equipment
    2.Before giving out the Equipment rewards every week,the System will choose a land to receive a special prize.

    The new prizes will allow the faction to expand in power.Mirage Stones are a must in refining to increase the refinement level of Weapons and Armours.When a weapon is refined,its attributes will be guranteed an increase.Also,the randomness of getting the Ultimate Prize increases the fun and interestingness of Territory Wars and allowing Factions with less land to get the Medal Of Honor

    The new Perfect World Territory War Rules will allow Territory Warsto be more fired up.Let Territory Wars accompany you through this hot yet exciting summer,bringing up your passion and beyond your wildest dreams.Kill to your heart's content at the PErfect World Territory Wars,striving for the ultimate glory that is yours.What are you waiting for?Join us now!

    My translations might sounds a bit weird but I don't know how else to put it.And my head hurts now
    Changes:

    War declaration:
    - bidding will not be system announced
    - min bid of 100k, max bid of 200m
    - max bidder will be announced Thursday
    - failed bids do not get returned (no more fake bids!)
    - not sure what the last point means

    Land attacks:
    - confusing, but end result will make defending multiple attacks harder

    Land rewards:
    - L3 lands give 150 "幻仙石" - some refining item, L2 gives 200, L1 gives 300
    - "Ultimate prize" of a "荣耀勋章" which is needed for obtaining 9jun


    Actual original source here, you may interpret it differently from me:
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20100624/52855.shtml

    ~Desiree

    thx for the translation. so it it mirages or not?
    and about the silent tw auction, people can get away with fake bids now? since you wont know who is the attacker until thursday
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  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    thx for the translation. so it it mirages or not?
    and about the silent tw auction, people can get away with fake bids now? since you wont know who is the attacker until thursday

    From what I see,the rewards is now changed to Gear(Weapons,Armours,Ornaments).There will some sort of a lucky draw where a random land will be picked.The faction that owns that land gets different amount of mirages depending on the Level of the land.There is also a chance that you get a special item called the "Medal Of Honor".

    People won't get their money refunded if they lose the bids.Also,you will not know how much another faction has bidded so no point putting in fake bids.
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    oh, i meant fake bids to prevent attack...
    so special equipments and 1 land getting mirages? interesting...
    Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Egaenil - Heavens Tear
    Egaenil - Heavens Tear Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    special gear? you mean use bage for rank 9? I used google to translate and it says nothing about gears.. i could be wrong
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I noticed the translation said
    The new prizes will allow the faction to expand in power.Mirage Stones are a must in refining to increase the refinement level of Weapons and Armours.When a weapon is refined,its attributes will be guranteed an increase.

    Wonder what that means, maybe it gives dragon orbs as a TW reward?
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Don't read too much into it. When a weapon is "refined", you can refine a weapon with mirages too, ,just that you can fail refining it. It just means a +1 weapon has more damage than a +0 weapon.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    True, kinda hard to read got confused, thought it meant more like it was garunteed to succeed at refining.
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  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I think...

    1) no special gears or stuff like that. You get mirages per land instead of coins.
    2) the RANDOM thing is about the rank 9 badge. One random piece of land on the whole map gets badges every week I guess. Sooo big land holding factions have more chances but the ones with less land also have a chance to get it at least.
    First 103 on Raging Tide 30 Oct 2010
    Quit.
  • Themax - Heavens Tear
    Themax - Heavens Tear Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Maybe I'm paranoid but, it seems to me that someone out there at PWE office making every decision and doing everything in it's power to force as many PWI players quit as possible. One ridiculous update after the other.
    Inactive on HT

    Rerolled on HL
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    its not PWE, its wanmei thats calling the shot.
    PWE only apply what is applied to pw cn to pwi.

    and forcing people to quit? all the 5 mins steamrolls in tw where there is one main tw faction especially in a pve server is also making people quit.

    also, you keep blaming 2x for crashing the market but actually the coins gotten by land owning factions also contributes to high gold price and **** up the market.

    it would appear to be an unpopular move but its effect can only be seen after the change is implemented i guess. there might be more things that get affected that i might not be aware of.
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  • vozzine
    vozzine Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    and the players on CN servers are fine with this?
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    no idea, should have similar response in their forums
    can someone go and check? :3
    im curious but i cant read chinese...
    Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Tsunamin - Heavens Tear
    Tsunamin - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    its not PWE, its wanmei thats calling the shot.
    PWE only apply what is applied to pw cn to pwi.

    and forcing people to quit? all the 5 mins steamrolls in tw where there is one main tw faction especially in a pve server is also making people quit.

    also, you keep blaming 2x for crashing the market but actually the coins gotten by land owning factions also contributes to high gold price and **** up the market.

    it would appear to be an unpopular move but its effect can only be seen after the change is implemented i guess. there might be more things that get affected that i might not be aware of.

    Agrees 100% with everything you said,
    and wow you guys got that problem too?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    no idea, should have similar response in their forums
    can someone go and check? :3
    im curious but i cant read chinese...

    They are not overall happy, but seem curious and have they same type of questions as us. I can give you the link to the thread if you like...but tbh it is close to what many have been saying.


    I for one am very interested in this...b:surrender
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    thx redsrose b:thanks
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    if this does take out tons of coins tht would be awsome hopefully gold would finnaly go down now if only those darn worthless chests & the stupid hammer were takin out of the game could possibley go bck to the good ol gold pricesb:laugh
    Collector of pet eggs, armor, weapons, fashion, and mountsb:chuckle
  • Adeacia - Heavens Tear
    Adeacia - Heavens Tear Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    btw Adeacia is the infamous pve hugger know it all Zoe

    What of it? I'll have you know my pk count has gone up recently.b:chuckle
    119 in Jade Dynasty, 162 in PWI from the very little bit of pvp I actually do.
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Doubt it will happen here, cutting TW pay by 90% when it currently barely covers costs?


    I expect HUGE community outrage TBH.

    you mean just like the DQ price drop? remind me what happened there exactly... nothing