State of the Game - DQ Price

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  • XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary
    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary Posts: 683 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    what ever.
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  • Majesta - Dreamweaver
    Majesta - Dreamweaver Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    wow.. reading all these posts and posts and posts about all sorts of things (not only in this thread) makes me wonder why people spend a lot of their time coming up with theories, rants, statistics etc for just... a game...
    I mean, sure it's good to voice your opinion when you dislike something... but all the stuff I read makes me wonder sometimes if some people are taking this all way to seriously b:surrender

    Sure, i wasnt happy with -20% DQ either, I post a reply about it and i'm done ^^ but some individuals make it their personal goal to whine as much as they can, which often results in a negative outcome. Be reasonable, be polite and you'll get much further than with blaming, shaming and flaming.

    my 2 cents, you can have em.
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  • Admante - Dreamweaver
    Admante - Dreamweaver Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    Majesta - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    wow.. reading all these posts and posts and posts about all sorts of things (not only in this thread) makes me wonder why people spend a lot of their time coming up with theories, rants, statistics etc for just... a game...
    I mean, sure it's good to voice your opinion when you dislike something... but all the stuff I read makes me wonder sometimes if some people are taking this all way to seriously b:surrender

    Sure, i wasnt happy with -20% DQ either, I post a reply about it and i'm done ^^ but some individuals make it their personal goal to whine as much as they can, which often results in a negative outcome. Be reasonable, be polite and you'll get much further than with blaming, shaming and flaming.

    my 2 cents, you can have em.

    Rage at you too >:(
  • XxIfritxX - Lost City
    XxIfritxX - Lost City Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    idc about anaything said here..but..what got my attention is this...

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  • Candie - Raging Tide
    Candie - Raging Tide Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    So , 2x drops is gone . DQ compensation ?
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Candie - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So , 2x drops is gone . DQ compensation ?

    In your dreams. It will never happens.
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  • ubernati
    ubernati Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Candie - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So , 2x drops is gone . DQ compensation ?

    the 2x was our compensation and an cheap attempt to say hey we heard, here 2x now move on?

    just want to say tx pwi for what took an hr to make aoe grinding now takes hr/30 min

    the time and effort i spent to make a char with the armor and weapon needed
    to aoe grind :( just to take a hit.



    every mmorpg i ever played had rmt. every attempt i seen by devs to stop didnt affect them only the loyal customers/players. so like with any game some moved on to other games and some just went with the flow. so if RMT's have hit china soon here will face the dilemma and the customers/gamers will take suffer
  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Honestly, how long does it take to find a solution and apply it? We're just getting the runaround here.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    I am already starting doing Dragon Quest . . b:surrender
    There already hundreds DQ on my bank. b:sweat
    Waiting until they fix the price is way too long.
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  • CandyCorn - Raging Tide
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    waiting takes to long
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Eh at last i notice the needs of DQ mold after more rich people appear . . b:chuckle
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  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    ubernati wrote: »
    the 2x was our compensation and an cheap attempt to say hey we heard, here 2x now move on?



    Again, the 2x event was not meant to "make up" for the -20% DQ NPC prices.

    Please understand that making a US version specific change requires extra time, creativity, and manpower from us as well as from the Devs in Beijing. We really appreciate your patience, and we assure you that it's being worked on as we speak.

    Seriously, we wouldn't highlight the DQ change in a News Post if we didn't plan to do something about it.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Thank you Frankie, b:pleased i hope we get the 20% back.
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  • ubernati
    ubernati Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    well i just did 3hrs of grinding first hr i made 55k 2nd 63k third 60k after 2x was over
    before nerf i was making 125 to 145k an hr before 2x

    not sure what going on with drop rate cuz now, normally ill get 9 to 12 dq every run (mobbing everything) now im lucky to get 4 if that,
    basically saying 2hrs to 2 and half hrs to make what i use to make in 1 hr seems not worth grinding no more.
    not sure what else to say i took a hit in game play

    just venting b:surrender
  • Miisa - Raging Tide
    Miisa - Raging Tide Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    i haven't really thought much about the DQ price drop, but...well, it's maintenance time and i'm bored. b:chuckle

    it seems that if someone's botting to just grind DQ and make loads of coins, wouldn't they pick a class with low "upkeep" cost? with few repairs and pots used, and only costing 3120 coins per hour for pure water (it is every 10 minutes pets need to be fed, right?), veno would be a logical choice, i think.

    if that IS the case, maybe a way to make life hard on botters without punishing legitimate players would be to keep the 20% decrease in dq prices, but then give us a similar reduction in repair costs. of course, that idea completely falls apart if botters tend to use other classes, but i guess maybe it would be something to look into?

    just a thought. =D
  • Psudeotrophe - Dreamweaver
    Psudeotrophe - Dreamweaver Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    IT IS ONLY 20%..........


    *sigh*

    When no answer = QQ

    When get some type of response and answer = QQ more

    When a fix comes = QQ


    ...people are never happy ffs.........

    If people were ever happy, they would be people no longer, they'd be robots then, happily content to swallow drivel spewed from them; and back into them. Nothing changes, just rearranges, constantly swirling downward into a viral dizzying mesh of crapola
    Apparently its more difficult to milk a smurf than originally conceived..
  • Psudeotrophe - Dreamweaver
    Psudeotrophe - Dreamweaver Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    frankieraye wrote: »
    Again, the 2x event was not meant to "make up" for the -20% DQ NPC prices.

    Please understand that making a US version specific change requires extra time, creativity, and manpower from us as well as from the Devs in Beijing. We really appreciate your patience, and we assure you that it's being worked on as we speak.

    Seriously, we wouldn't highlight the DQ change in a News Post if we didn't plan to do something about it.

    How about a permanent x2 drop rate? Or a x2 drop weekend like in other PWE games? Daily coin quests? Daily Eso/charm quests?
    Apparently its more difficult to milk a smurf than originally conceived..
  • f0xxya
    f0xxya Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Why chinese people farming DQ item for coin?

    Simple
    1) Gray Badge, new daily ask +1KK coin each time and DQ item
    2) Old Jones revenge ask 100K or Coin of Luck (can buy it with USD...and have more other with coin in stall)
    3) Crazy Stone = 75K each day...2.250KK each month
    4) WQ: fast system with teleport stone...hight price, medium time system with teleport 100K each day, boring system with free aviation = 0 coin (2-3 hours)
    5) skill 10-500K for level and book 1K-4KK to know it (if you have luck to drop its...not buy book)

    Now exist more system to make coin ingame:
    1) sell mats (TT, FC, ..) this system need that other people have coin...not more people have coin
    2) buy coin from botter = illegal
    3) make coin with farming = DQ coin reduction -20%!!!
    4) sell gold into auction hall. This system need that other people have coin...not more people have coin.
    5) reward from TW (only 1 guild have every country into map...other guild cry)
    6) rare exstasy card that give 1KK or 5KK. This need more luck.

    what generate coins ingame?
    -mob drop coin (low...need farming to satisfy the player necessity)
    -TW reward (hight reward divided for 80 warrior into TW = low reward -.-')
    -little amount of exstasy card for lucky people that found its (how many luck you have?!)

    What make trade of coin (pg-pg)? Trade dont generate coin...only exchange between pg and pg.
    -buy item from item shop (O) and sell for coin
    -sell mats (TT, FC, ...) for coin

    What destroy amount of coin ingame?
    -use coin for skill
    -use coin for potion
    -use coin for event (crazy stone, Old Jones 100K for relaxing box, teleport for WQ...)

    PW go to Poor World... b:shocked
  • Aedrian - Lost City
    Aedrian - Lost City Posts: 750 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    And just as a wild guess, Will the solution be the same as the one given for the 3* item decomp?

    Meaning, changing it to a crappy reward, making it easy for 10x to get mirages but low levels get nothing? I can get mirages out of 3*, but, What about a lvl 29 doing his FB? Nothing, and then threads being long forgotten.
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  • EbilBecca - Heavens Tear
    EbilBecca - Heavens Tear Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thank you Frankie, b:pleased i hope we get the 20% back.

    I hope so too >.>
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  • nout
    nout Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I am already starting doing Dragon Quest . . b:surrender
    There already hundreds DQ on my bank. b:sweat
    Waiting until they fix the price is way too long.
    Yeah let's all do Dragon Quests!
    If everyone would do them there might be dragon orders again for a decent price..
    Although the reward to do Dragon Quests should perhaps be a little higher for the higher ones, maybe add some coins to the reward?

    I'd be happy if they'd lower DQ items price to 10% of the current price so I can buy them from folks ;)
  • preoteasa
    preoteasa Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Almost a month now. Any news on this?
  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Kantorek wrote: »
    Hey Guys,

    In case you haven't check it out yet, we have a news post in response to the DQ Price reduction issue. It gives some insight as to why the change was made and how we intend to deal with it.

    The news article can be found here.

    -Closing the old thread- Please continue the discussion either here or in the news article. Thanks.

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  • Aedrian - Lost City
    Aedrian - Lost City Posts: 750 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    So, as usual, silence.

    Just saying
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  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Aedrian - Lost City wrote: »
    So, as usual, silence.

    Just saying

    You were expecting something else? b:chuckle
  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    frankieraye wrote: »
    Again, the 2x event was not meant to "make up" for the -20% DQ NPC prices.

    Please understand that making a US version specific change requires extra time, creativity, and manpower from us as well as from the Devs in Beijing. We really appreciate your patience, and we assure you that it's being worked on as we speak.

    Seriously, we wouldn't highlight the DQ change in a News Post if we didn't plan to do something about it.

    Question: Is it possible for you to at 2x drops for ONLY DQ items that come from mobs to make up for the -20% drop in DQ items?
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  • Silok - Lost City
    Silok - Lost City Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Aedrian - Lost City wrote: »
    So, as usual, silence.

    Just saying
    Fishy, as usual, we'll hear something in a range of 6 months later to never. Personally, I'm taking the safe bet on never.
  • Srsmokesalot - Archosaur
    Srsmokesalot - Archosaur Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    they do change their mind you know alot of game devs. do that
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    idk, but this implement is a lazy way to deal with botters. Its better to

    -remove marcos
    -find the gold farmers / botters and ban them
    -remove gold trading / raise gold prices by 3x and from gold trading fees by 2x

    Make it fair for everyone instead.
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  • Aedrian - Lost City
    Aedrian - Lost City Posts: 750 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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    Srsmokesalot - Archosaur wrote: »
    they do change their mind you know alot of game devs. do that

    Yeah, as they have yet to fix the double or triple death glitch on Rebirth, since, How long ago?

    And to Silok, my puppy *hugs* What bothers me is the "Don't ask, don't tell policy", as seen here.

    I hope that for now, a decent action will be performed, not like they did with the *3 items (Yes, I still QQ about that, a good fish never forgets)
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