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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Just pointing out how stupid the argument sounds. Go stand in front of a 3-3 physical AoE boss and see how well you handle it. Arcane users die. Quick.

    Clerics shouldn't get bramble.... ever. They shouldn't be in AoE range of a boss if it can be helped at all.

    Arguing against these points is fail.

    So one TT stands for the entire world of PW? Just because TT3-3 boss will quickly kill AA users bramble should never be used?

    We never said go stand in-front of the aoe boss, you are twisting words and manipulating them to suit your point.

    There is nothing wrong with bramble ever, if clerics get agro then someone has screwed up. Everyone acts like if a cleric gets hit they fold up and die there and then which is completely stupid, granted AA has its drawbacks against phys bosses but we arent that damn squishy.

    Ok, i agree clerics shouldn't be in phys range, what happens when the tank turns the boss though? When clerics are pulled in closer and then into the phys aoe range? It came from the higher levels like yourself that somewhere in previous months said 'Turn the boss, its makes aoe damage less'.
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  • Celestyna - Heavens Tear
    Celestyna - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Yeah, I should read a little more closely because I pass up jems like this:



    Physical AoE is only reflected by someone with Bramble if they are in melee range. So you're basically telling your cleric to get Brambled and stand in front of Twilight Emperor or Illusion Lord.

    lol. Good one. b:pleased

    you do NOT need to be in melee range for it to work aoe range of a physical damage aoe will still return damage. get your facts streight b:surrender

    For example Last boss of FF and Feng deals physical aoe which you can not avoid. both of them if you have bramble you deal about 200-400pts damage while your healing .. if you can steal agro with that then seriously your squad fails. however i feel useful when I am able to deal a little damage and maybe in the long run make the boss just a little faster.

    I always ask for bramble on physical aoe bosses and i have NEVER gotten agro because of it.. in fact i have NEVER gotten agro or died because of bramble full stop. I get agro cause i hit for like 80k and out dd the tank or something
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Yes, it was... I've been laughing my **** off for the past half hour, and it's actually interfered with me posting coherent responses. haha

    You still haven't said that cleric's shouldn't be brambled. You keep arguing but you just won't admit that brambling a cleric is a noob mistake and should rightly be ridiculed. As well as a veno not using amp or purge. Also a mage giving a caster Frostblade on a caster makes as much sense as a veno brambling a cleric. But, I guess it looks pretty. So therefore it should be done.

    As I've already said it's more likely to be detrimental than beneficial.

    What I'm arguing is that bramble isn't as deadly as you make it out to be. I would argue the same if people cried when a veno brambled a wizzy if the wizard complained in the same way. Did I specifically say a cleric should always be brambled? No. Did I say that bramble was actually going to save them? No, not really. Did I say that bramble wasn't an immediate death sentence for clerics? Yes. Because it's not.

    As I've already said, bramble is not this deadly buff that is going to kill a cleric the instant it's cast on them. It's generally not going to affect gameplay at all unless you let it. I've never been in a squad where Bramble has killed a cleric if it's ended up being cast on them, for whatever reason. Why? Because it's really not that deadly. I remain of the mind that Bramble is only going to be deadly if you let it. Like, as I've said before... sitting around letting a monster slap a cleric for seven or eight times.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So one TT stands for the entire world of PW? Just because TT3-3 boss will quickly kill AA users bramble should never be used?

    No. Also Dimentora... even Feng... How about you just keep your venos brambling clerics and I won't, and we'll get along fine.
    There is nothing wrong with bramble ever, if clerics get agro then someone has screwed up. Everyone acts like if a cleric gets hit they fold up and die there and then which is completely stupid, granted AA has its drawbacks against phys bosses but we arent that damn squishy.

    Ok, i agree clerics shouldn't be in phys range, what happens when the tank turns the boss though? When clerics are pulled in closer and then into the phys aoe range? It came from the higher levels like yourself that somewhere in previous months said 'Turn the boss, its makes aoe damage less'.

    A cleric shouldn't be brambled. In the case that multiple or even a single strong mob does aggro to a cleric, that's additional threat that shouldn't even be generated.

    Brambling a cleric will certainly NEVER help the cleric or the party. Why do it?
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What I'm arguing is that bramble isn't as deadly as you make it out to be. I would argue the same if people cried when a veno brambled a wizzy if the wizard complained in the same way. Did I specifically say a cleric should always be brambled? No. Did I say that bramble was actually going to save them? No, not really. Did I say that bramble wasn't an immediate death sentence for clerics? Yes. Because it's not.

    As I've already said, bramble is not this deadly buff that is going to kill a cleric the instant it's cast on them. It's generally not going to affect gameplay at all unless you let it. I've never been in a squad where Bramble has killed a cleric if it's ended up being cast on them, for whatever reason. Why? Because it's really not that deadly. I remain of the mind that Bramble is only going to be deadly if you let it. Like, as I've said before... sitting around letting a monster slap a cleric for seven or eight times.

    Where did I once say it was very deadly? I'm just stating that brambling a cleric isn't beneficial and won't help. In some cases it could be detrimental. Yes, I'm completely wrong there.... lol

    I guess your parties consist of a veno pulling every single mob while the whole group kills one mob at a time. There's never a chance a stray mob or two can't heal aggro a BB or healing cleric ever, because you're always so perfectly careful OMG. I'd love to be in your party, I'd never lose any dolls, nobody would ever die, and mistakes just never happen. OMG! Wow... I'm doing things completely wrong!

    Nice house of cards. Build it higher and higher, one day it'll tumble.

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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    No. Also Dimentora... even Feng... How about you just keep your venos brambling clerics and I won't, and we'll get along fine.



    A cleric shouldn't be brambled. In the case that multiple or even a single strong mob does aggro to a cleric, that's additional threat that shouldn't even be generated.

    Brambling a cleric will certainly NEVER help the cleric or the party. Why do it?

    You return damage on Feng and his aoe cant be avoided b:victory.

    There is nothing wrong with bramble, if a cleric gets agro then they have dealt more damage than the tank or healed before a mob was attacked. None of these relate to bramble funnily enough, strange that. The whole point of bramble is to return damage no matter how small that damage is it will all add up. It generates little to no agro and if a strong mob gets to the cleric then the squad is fail, someone should get to it before it gets close.
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  • Meursault - Dreamweaver
    Meursault - Dreamweaver Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I know you're talking about brambling clerics here but seen people countless times saying bramble is harmless because it generates very little aggro and therefore everyone should always be brambled. This is true for most situations but not always.

    Noticed this argument usually comes from people with a ranged class main who probably never got screwed by bramble. Well more than once it happened to me to do TT with herc tanking, stealing aggro and not be able to lose it for quite some time with bramble on and not attacking. Without it, it only takes a few seconds of stopping.
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Where did I once say it was very deadly? I'm just stating that brambling a cleric isn't beneficial and won't help. In some cases it could be detrimental. Yes, I'm completely wrong there.... lol

    I guess your parties consist of a veno pulling every single mob while the whole group kills one mob at a time. There's never a chance a stray mob or two can't heal aggro a BB or healing cleric ever, because you're always so perfectly careful OMG. I'd love to be in your party, I'd never lose any dolls, nobody would ever die, and mistakes just never happen. OMG! Wow... I'm doing things completely wrong!

    Nice house of cards. Build it higher and higher, one day it'll tumble.

    b:pleased

    Again with the assumptions about my squads.

    You know, until you can stop with all the really ridiculous assumptions about how my squads work, I think I'll just step out of this. It was fun, but now it's beyond ridiculous, because you've had to fall back on making more assumptions about my squads, and they really are that. Ridiculous.

    Much like you never said it was very deadly, I never said you should bramble a cleric. That didn't stop you from arguing with me as if I had said that, did it?

    Again... the whole "take your own advice" business.
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  • Amaliee - Archosaur
    Amaliee - Archosaur Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The Big Brambley Debate - Solution!

    Veno: Hello cleric, would you like me to bramble you for this instance?

    Cleric: Yes, thank you! [OR] No, thank you!

    *The world miraculously keeps on turning*

    The End!
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    lol, next you'll be arguing that mages should give venos, clerics and psychics Frostblade.

    Actually, Mages SHOULD give Venos Frostblade, since some Venos use Fox. Personally, on nasty physical AoE bosses, I prefer to be under the boss at all times, using my Fox attacks, which are physical, so that I can Leech my HP back, and Amp, without having to switch back to caster, and make myself more vulnerable. And as fast as I generate Chi with my high attack speed, I can triple Spark a hell of a lot. Combine Spark + Attack Speed on a ? boss, and I'm doing about as much DPS as while casting. I don't really need to use Ironwood, either, especially as most barbs I party with use Devour in addition to Flesh Ream to keep aggro. And as maxed Devour is a 50% decrease to Physical damage versus even Sage Ironwood's 40%, it's more beneficial to the party for me to stay in Fox, and my attacks gain more power after I've been Frostbladed.
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Amaliee - Archosaur wrote: »
    The Big Brambley Debate - Solution!

    Veno: Hello cleric, would you like me to bramble you for this instance?

    Cleric: Yes, please! [OR] No, thank you!

    *The world miraculously keeps on turning*

    The End!

    I fixed it b:chuckle.
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I fixed it b:chuckle.

    I lol'd. Although it was a bit of a minor fix, "Yes, thank you" can work just as well. XD
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I lol'd. Although it was a bit of a minor fix, "Yes, thank you" can work just as well. XD

    Nuuuuuuu lol 'please' is when you are asking for something and 'thank you' is when you have received something or turning something down b:chuckle. 'Yes, thank you!' is backwards b:cry.
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Nuuuuuuu lol 'please' is when you are asking for something and 'thank you' is when you have received something or turning something down b:chuckle. 'Yes, thank you!' is backwards b:cry.

    Most things about PWI are backwards in nature, one way or another. While "Yes, please" makes more sense, since it's PWI we're talking about... "Yes, thank you" might as well work, too. b:pleased
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  • Amaliee - Archosaur
    Amaliee - Archosaur Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Nuuuuuuu lol 'please' is when you are asking for something and 'thank you' is when you have received something or turning something down b:chuckle. 'Yes, thank you!' is backwards b:cry.

    Lol awww no hun what "Yes, thank you" means is "Yes, thank you for offering" :) And it is in fact in proper grammatical form. But I lol'd regardless 'cus it took so long for me to see what you'd changed! XDb:chuckle
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Most things about PWI are backwards in nature, one way or another. While "Yes, please" makes more sense, since it's PWI we're talking about... "Yes, thank you" might as well work, too. b:pleased
    Amaliee - Archosaur wrote: »
    Lol awww no hun what "Yes, thank you" means is "Yes, thank you for offering" :) And it is in fact in proper grammatical form. But I lol'd regardless 'cus it took so long for me to see what you'd changed! XDb:chuckle

    My whole life i've been lied to b:cry im going to start saying 'Yes, thank you' and 'No, please' b:chuckle.
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  • Amaliee - Archosaur
    Amaliee - Archosaur Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My whole life i've been lied to b:cry im going to start saying 'Yes, thank you' and 'No, please' b:chuckle.

    Ahaha! I think maybe it's a cultural thing? 'Cus to me "No, please" is only acceptable if you were being condescending.

    This is off-topic now, but just a question, if some co-worker said to you "Hey, did you want me to pick you up a coffee from Starbucks?" would you reply "Yes, please" still? Because to me, unless I knew the person well, it seems demanding and I'd say "yes, thank you" instead. Ahhh I'm thinking way too much on this now b:cute
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Amaliee - Archosaur wrote: »
    Ahaha! I think maybe it's a cultural thing? 'Cus to me "No, please" is only acceptable if you were being condescending.

    This is off-topic now, but just a question, if some co-worker said to you "Hey, did you want me to pick you up a coffee from Starbucks?" would you reply "Yes, please" still? Because to me, unless I knew the person well, it seems demanding and I'd say "yes, thank you" instead. Ahhh I'm thinking way too much on this now b:cute

    I'd say yes please. Then I'd thank them once I got the coffee. In general "yes, please" just makes more sense to me, and then adding a thank you afterwards. "Yes, thank you" in response to a question I think is also correct, but it just sounds a little odd to me. b:cute
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It's funny how this went from Bramble debate to a Grammar or Definition correction kinda thing. b:laugh
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  • Ladydeadlock - Heavens Tear
    Ladydeadlock - Heavens Tear Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I had one very funny incident on my alt cleric during bh51. We were 3 clerics, bm was our tank, had 1 veno and 1 archer.

    *Fushma arrives and bm starts tanking while clerics heal and DD*

    *Veno pulls 2 walkers that came from behind*


    Chaos breaks lose, people running around, some cleric got aggro on mobs, while we trying not let tank die who tries to save the squishies from mobs. I think this ended up with a veno and one of the cleric dying, which ofc got a quick rez.

    A minute later...

    Everyone is alive, mobs are dead and.... One cleric is GONE!


    BM: Where did you go?
    Noob cleric: I teleported out I didn't wanna die and lose exp.
    BM: But you were ready to let other people lose it? We have 3 clerics.
    Noob cleric: Obivously it's their fault. I wasnt close to die, I just teleported out.
    BM: WTF! We had clerics here!
    Noob cleric: But they were letting people die.



    I was laughing so hard LMAO. I think someone forgot what class they were.
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Amaliee - Archosaur wrote: »
    Ahaha! I think maybe it's a cultural thing? 'Cus to me "No, please" is only acceptable if you were being condescending.

    This is off-topic now, but just a question, if some co-worker said to you "Hey, did you want me to pick you up a coffee from Starbucks?" would you reply "Yes, please" still? Because to me, unless I knew the person well, it seems demanding and I'd say "yes, thank you" instead. Ahhh I'm thinking way too much on this now b:cute

    Airyll has my answer b:chuckle.
    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'd say yes please. Then I'd thank them once I got the coffee. In general "yes, please" just makes more sense to me, and then adding a thank you afterwards. "Yes, thank you" in response to a question I think is also correct, but it just sounds a little odd to me. b:cute

    I feel the same b:cute.
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  • Nexdonum - Lost City
    Nexdonum - Lost City Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'd say yes please. Then I'd thank them once I got the coffee. In general "yes, please" just makes more sense to me, and then adding a thank you afterwards. "Yes, thank you" in response to a question I think is also correct, but it just sounds a little odd to me. b:cute

    Agreed. But I think it also depends on the tone of which you're saying it. :)
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ladydeadlock - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    BM: Where did you go?
    Noob cleric: I teleported out I didn't wanna die and lose exp.
    BM: But you were ready to let other people lose it? We have 3 clerics.
    Noob cleric: Obivously it's their fault. I wasnt close to die, I just teleported out.
    BM: WTF! We had clerics here!
    Noob cleric: But they were letting people die.



    I was laughing so hard LMAO. I think someone forgot what class they were.

    I lol'd.

    But I'll also add that sometimes, a cleric will leave or drop squad over a fail, and I feel they had every right to. Clerics sacrifice a lot in this game, more in fail squads then anywhere else, so I appreciate that they don't take to failure kindly and even less to EXP loss.

    But when there's three clerics in a squad and somebody to give you a res...?

    Although actually, on a side note, I feel that in some cases, when people see three or four clerics in a squad, they get far too comfortable with the idea that with this many clerics, surely death isn't possible, and it leads to more failures than should ever happen.
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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I agree. Of all the classes in this game, a cleric is most reliant on a squad to accomplish things, simply by the nature of their class. Unless they try to solo everything, it all comes down to the playing skill of those you are healing. If your healees suck, then the run will fail, and you could be the best cleric in the game, and still have a run fall apart and kill you.
  • Amaliee - Archosaur
    Amaliee - Archosaur Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Nexdonum - Lost City wrote: »
    Agreed. But I think it also depends on the tone of which you're saying it. :)

    Tone! That's got to be it too then, and it makes sense, as I'm hearing the phrase as people say it here and it's possibly different for others. Yay for sidebar grammar questions! :3

    Also to the cleric story above, I agree that cleric was out of line leaving when there was more than one cleric in the squad. And in general, even if you are the only cleric, leaving during a time like that will generally guarantee that everyone will die, which is unfortunate. But clerics are definitely at the losing end of a party wipe!

    It's why when I see some people complain that a clerics rez isn't leveled very high, as annoying as that can be, it still seems somewhat selfish as the cleric themselves will never receive any of that benefit. Need more love for our clerics!
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Just for the record, the reason mages can tank elemental bosses better than psychics is because we have 3 elemental shields we can use depending on boss. Sure psychics have white voodoo too, but then their damage will be nerfed and will have a hard time keeping aggro from the boss.

    EDIT: I'm giving frostblade to everyone usually simply because I would otherwise give it to me multiple times over for chi. So why not? b:laugh
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Lol remembered another :
    The Immune Boses
    This is promiment among venos & mages, while mages continuously use the same element skills which the said mob or boss is immune to, or when Venos use their wood spells on the Tree boss in abbadon ._. One of the examples.

    "im old fashioned and my main venomancer has no fox form skills asside from fox form itself... simply because I cant be bothered *shrug*
    does this automatically make me a fail veno?"
    Yes, I would put you in my category of fail venos. If I had an option of you & smb else I would most likely choose the other person. It's like a barb saying "hey I'm old fashioned I don't use tiger form skills. does that make me fail?" Sure they will survive in human form if they solo all the time. But after getting into squads, they will be considered a fail & not prefered unless others get VERY desperate.
    "why vengeance buff is **** for tanks"
    OMG I hate that buff.
    "Oh! Quinnie's post reminded me of another "fail" I often encounter.
    Venos that bramble me... I've been known to kill them. Seriously... please do not ever buff a cleric with that ****! It is like signing our death sentence and that of the squad in many cases.

    And if I warn you not once, not twice, but three flipping times and you keep putting that garbage on me... I think it's warranted that I kill you. Disagree? Take it up with the cold hard floor, because I just don't care anymore."
    Lol My Wife's veno buffs my cleric with bramble all the time on purpose for lols + all my clothes & hair is green so it fits b:cool In 10 mins or so it runs out, don't have much problems with it. Never died over a bramble.


    Can we get over this Bramble Debate? Really wouldn't like for this awsome thread to be closed because of this nonsense.

    "Twilight Emperor deals 6543 damage
    You were killed by Twilight Emperor"
    Hm.. that's one squishy cleric o.o


    Oh another stereotype XD. Entire squad already at boss. Waiting... Cleric still not half way across the dungeon...
    Cleric: "Guys!! Wait for me!! QQ I'm going as fast as I can!!"

    We were 3 clerics, bm was our tank, had 1 veno and 1 archer.
    This reminded me of another cliche... There is a positive correlation between the number of clerics in squad & how often squad members die... Lol ._. Duno why but it is almost ALWAYS true from experience. The other cleric always expects the others to heal while he/she DDs, but so do the others...
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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh another stereotype XD. Entire squad already at boss. Waiting... Cleric still not half way across the dungeon...
    Cleric: "Guys!! Wait for me!! QQ I'm going as fast as I can!!"

    Holy Path and sprint powders... My Cleric and Wizard's constant friends.
  • Amaliee - Archosaur
    Amaliee - Archosaur Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Can we get over this Bramble Debate? Really wouldn't like for this awsome thread to be closed because of this nonsense.

    It's been over with for several hours now, no bringing it back up!! Lol.

    Also yes the immune boss attacks can be both really funny and really awkward to watch. A lot of times though I think people just attack them because they're used to a set cycle and simply continue it. Macro abuse? Either way it gets annoying but it always makes me giggle and really not too detrimental. Beats running up and smacking them with magic swords! b:chuckle

    ----

    Also I still do not agree about wizards tanking better than psychics based solely on shield use. I find that my psychic does a lot better at tanking than my wizard at the same level. Mind you both are only in the 70s atm and my wizard is retired so perhaps this changes in later levels.
  • Celestyna - Heavens Tear
    Celestyna - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Lol remembered another :
    The Immune Boses
    This is promiment among venos & mages, while mages continuously use the same element skills which the said mob or boss is immune to, or when Venos use their wood spells on the Tree boss in abbadon ._. One of the examples.

    I always heal or RB on that stupid metal immune boss in brimstone i hate him! lol used to be a pain in the back side when me and my bf(veno) soloed brim for drops.. sorry your on your own
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh another stereotype XD. Entire squad already at boss. Waiting... Cleric still not half way across the dungeon...
    Cleric: "Guys!! Wait for me!! QQ I'm going as fast as I can!!"

    I have squaded with these before... and being I (a cleric) am normally first one there.. i am like .. holy path.. why slow everyone else down?? they "dont have room" most the time..
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This reminded me of another cliche... There is a positive correlation between the number of clerics in squad & how often squad members die... Lol ._. Duno why but it is almost ALWAYS true from experience. The other cleric always expects the others to heal while he/she DDs, but so do the others...

    ^^ this was what iw as gonna comment on the 3 clerics thing.. i have noticed this in bh squads we tend to take more dd roles the mroe clerics there and forget we are suposed to heal thinking soemone else got it .. I am guilty here b:surrender
    In other dungeons i always talk to the other clerics and we deside.. ok you have more Mattack you dd... you have more hp so you bb ect
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