Should I charge to go and Res people?

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  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    As far as charging for a res, I've never considered it. I'll willing res people nearby who ask politely and gladly fly accross the map for a guildie or friend. If a random person PMs me and I am busy or they are far away, I simply tell them 'Sorry' and go on with whatever I was doing.

    As far as not leveling res - there's not much of a point not to do it eventually, but I understand why some clerics don't level it early. I kept my res maxed to level as an act of friendship to my guildmates, and would do so again if I rolled a new cleric.

    For those who choose not to level it immediately, there's still no good excuse for not maxing it eventually, as clerics really have a smallish skill tree, you will eventually have spirit points flowing out of your ears, and it's a fairly inexpensive skill.

    b:kiss

    Those who charge imma come up with an idea, I'll make a cleric and charge 1k less that what your chargingb:laugh
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Good point there FatherTed.

    Clerics can DD, heal all characters/debuff/Rez
    Phyc can DD/debuff/heal all characters
    Veno can DD/heal pets of another veno only/debuff

    Seems to me you as a veno are less of a jack-of-all-trades.

    Epeen... really.

    My point is that tho I have the skill I am no way required to use it. If I choose not too.
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    maocchi wrote: »
    Thank you for proving further that you have gigantic epeen.
    Res benefits others GREATLY. Yet you refuse to do it because it doesn't benefit YOU.

    Rest assured, nobody would care if you weren't the only class in the game who can res others. But alas, that is not the case and you are irreplaceable therefore you gain massive amount of ego from it.

    Please go re-read my original post because you don't seem to get what I've been trying to say.

    @Zanryu
    Goes double for you.


    Well... until you come up with a new argument I'm done repeating myself.

    It just sounds to my like you're butthurt because you don't have any friends thanks to that god complex you seem to have coupled with complete idiocy. Go play another game kid, I doubt anyone wants you here.
    Good point there FatherTed.

    Clerics can DD, heal all characters/debuff/Rez
    Phyc can DD/debuff/heal all characters
    Veno can DD/heal pets of another veno only/debuff

    Seems to me you as a veno are less of a jack-of-all-trades.

    I thought I was the one that made that point. Oh well :(
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Good point there FatherTed.

    Clerics can DD, heal all characters/debuff/Rez

    Add to that can solo almost any magic boss and if played properly very many phys bosses as well - as well as stun/sleep on top of the other debuffs - and aoe grind very efficiently - and of course buff other players.

    Not to mention we got feathers coming out of our ears, yo!
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    My point is that tho I have the skill I am no way required to use it. If I choose not too.

    The only time I disagree with this is in an instance. My feeling personally is that if I agree to go into an instance with someone then yes, I do have a responsibility to ress them if they die - even if it's their own fault. Unless of course they start screaming at me for letting them die when it wasn't my fault. That's when the 'kick from squad' option comes into play.
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for the personal attacks.

    My god complex and complete idiocy is sensing hypocrisy.
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Good point there FatherTed.

    Clerics can DD, heal all characters/debuff/Rez
    Phyc can DD/debuff/heal all characters
    Veno can DD/heal pets of another veno only/debuff

    Seems to me you as a veno are less of a jack-of-all-trades.

    Epeen... really.

    My point is that tho I have the skill I am no way required to use it. If I choose not too.

    *Cough* Wizards *cough*
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Add to that can solo almost any magic boss and if played properly very many phys bosses as well - as well as stun/sleep on top of the other debuffs - and aoe grind very efficiently - and of course buff other players.

    Not to mention we got feathers coming out of our ears, yo!

    Do you think that guy that won't even post with his main is jealous of our ear feathers and that's why he's being so mean to Clerics? o.O
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Do you think that guy that won't even post with his main is jealous of our ear feathers and that's why he's being so mean to Clerics? o.O

    Wouldn't surprise me - who wouldn't be jealous of our kick **** feathers?
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ok....here is the thing:

    1) Clerics have NO obligation to level their revive skill

    2) Clerics have NO obligation to revive anyone

    3) Clerics have NO obligation to buff people

    4) Clerics have NO obligation to heal people


    ^ The above can be said for ALL classes and all situations - HOWEVER:


    I think the over-all point that people are stuck on is the "potential" selfishness of a Cleric NOT leveling that particular skill. Some maybe because the do not have the money or maybe others simply because they see no benefit to themselves.

    I will admit that the revive skill does not on the surface appear to have a specific benefit to a Cleric, but I can tell you that it does and maybe that will become more apparent later on in levels and higher level instances.

    IF you have a good squad, MANY will sacrifice themselves in order for the Cleric to survive. This is because they need you, as Cleric, and they readily acknowledge you for that. Having said that, revive then becomes beneficial to YOU as a Cleric because someone has died for you. Your "gift" to them is saving some of their exp at the expense of you not losing yours.

    Therefore, if you look at the larger picture instead of the surface, a Cleric's revive skill does and will benefit you. You can still say no because it is your game play, but remember one day people WILL sacrifice themselves for you and in turn you can at least "reward" them for it.
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    sry about that Zanryu..

    Missed that.
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sry about that Zanryu..

    Missed that.

    You also missed the pro healing wizards!
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ooh my..

    My bad
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ooh my..

    My bad

    I died posting that, can you ress me foc for the effort?
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sry about that Zanryu..

    Missed that.

    Lol no worries, I was just joking around anyway.
    Thanks for the personal attacks.

    My god complex and complete idiocy is sensing hypocrisy.

    Oh anytime! ^^

    Anway... if you're done with your lame argument about stuns, let's move on... this thread is about Clerics and Revive, not a Blademaster's stuns...
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sure :) Free of charge, hehehehe

    Let me add some buffs to make the grind easier too.
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sure :) Free of charge, hehehehe

    im near the snowy village, cheers
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    OOh my...

    I am just posting here (not in-game myself yet).
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    im near the snowy village, cheers

    No let me rez you! I wanna rez you! I demand to rez you, I'll pay you 50k! NO! 100K! xD
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No let me rez you! I wanna rez you! I demand to rez you, I'll pay you 50k! NO! 100K! xD

    If I had charged Jonny even 10k per ress over the last year, he'd owe me a couple hundred million, I think.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Your opinion was disregard simply because your saying all this nonsense and your not even a cleric so how the hell would you know what goes on?

    You obviously cannot read or are simply ignorant. Not once have i said clerics need to be given something in return. So please re-read what i have posted before you start to type.

    Clerics do get alot of **** and ive said what that **** is mainly xp loss (unless we buy GS's) and we often do not get a ress either. We get random pm's from anyone asking for a ress everyday for the majority of social players. Simply because people do not want to lose 1%. If i die while grinding ill go straight to town as the way i see it its an extra 1%'s worth of drops/spirit.

    Clerics do have benefits obviously for one we have a range of healing skills, buffs and seals but that doesnt take away from other classes benefits like a barbs awesome defence/health, BMs range of skills if they choose all classes and the amount of aoe's and stuns they get from doing so, archers have an awesome crit rate and are imo the best DD's in this game not to mention they are smexy, veno have a personal barb and themselves can play as the cleric healing their pet and have it easier than any other class, so please before you point out out benefits dont make out that we are the only class that has benefits.

    Ermm if you think one of the main reason's clerics get into a squad is because of a ress than you are a fool. Cleric's main role is to heal, our job is to keep you alive and buff squad members and do what we need to do to keep the squad running smooth. Thats almost like saying the main reason people take a BM is because of HF or main reason people take a veno is for bramble. Our revive skill is just like those 2 i've mentioned its a very nice skill indeed and very helpful but that isn't why we are in the squad.

    So my advise to you is to learn a little bit more about the game and then come back to the forums as some of the things you are posting on here are completely and utterly stupid.

    You managed to try and make something of an argument despite still relying on disqualification.

    Yes, a cleric's main role is to heal but you're not the only class capable of doing so (even if you're by far the most effective). It is one of the reasons you're in squad. It's not because you can heal that you're protected at all costs. If barb goes down then give me a good reason other than res i should protect the cleric? Maybe it would make sense for melees since they're more effective with heals behind them, but why would i sacrifice myself? Heals are no good to me if i'm dead and trust me when i say it would be way easier for me to escape. Just use bramble hood and summer sprint to get away and keep genie skills like holy path and ToP on reserve in case the boss gets close. Nine times out of ten i could escape party wipes with ease. Except that if i save the cleric i basically help not just myself but the whole squad. Why? because of res. I owe it to everyone else to stand between danger and the cleric even if it would be easy for me to escape. And you better believe i always do my best to spare the cleric having to go to town.

    It's arrogance on your part that you think healing alone makes you important enough that we should all sacrifice ourselves for you. It doesn't. Res it's not just another skill like what other classes get. You can bet squad mechanics would be different if clerics weren't able to res. A veno might become much more a priority than the cleric if able to handle the tanking. Res is the only reason this isn't so. Not just your heals, a lot of us handle ourselves with pots through AoE because we understand BB has a heavy cost on you guys. I trust that if the cleric decides not to use it he has a good reason. In fact i usually trust the cleric with most tough calls and always back him up if the barb disagrees. It's cleric that should always have the last say as to what a squad as a whole can do, tanks only speak for themselves as to wether they can handle something or not.

    Tanking only goes ahead when both cleric and tanker agree.

    This is a leadership role, i feel sorry for people you squad with if you treat them with the same arrogance and disrespect you've demonstrated throughout this thread. Leadership means you put others ahead of yourself, if you can't do that you shouldn't be playing cleric in the first place. And yes, this also impacts your skilling choices. And when i spoke of benefits i meant you guys finding it much easier to set up squads or get invited for runs. I was talking about picking mats or loot. Your class is wanted or welcome by the overwhelming majority of people and you find it easier to access content.
    That's a benefit only you and barbs get. Yes, it does come at a cost. Go qq about it somewhere else, you'll get no sympathy from me if you can't concede res is important to the rest of us. And the least we deserve is for you to take care of it if you'll be demanding that we guard your life more closely than ours.
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No let me rez you! I wanna rez you! I demand to rez you, I'll pay you 50k! NO! 100K! xD

    Sweetb:victory
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If I had charged Jonny even 10k per ress over the last year, he'd owe me a couple hundred million, I think.

    I died, like 5 times in the 2-3 run I was in with Zan........
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I died, like 5 times in the 2-3 run I was in with Zan........

    You die 5 times an hour every day of the week . . .
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sweetb:victory



    I died, like 5 times in the 2-3 run I was in with Zan........

    When did we run 2-3? Who are you? What's a Zan? And where the hell is my cupcake! b:angry
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hmm Jonnykins...

    Are you in an alt?
    I PMed you in-game but you are offine
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    When did we run 2-3? Who are you? What's a Zan? And where the hell is my cupcake! b:angry

    I think it was you

    *Gives half eaten cupcake* I was peckish
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I think it was you

    *Gives half eaten cupcake* I was peckish

    Oh...my....god....

    A WAFFLE! MINE!
  • Ophida - Dreamweaver
    Ophida - Dreamweaver Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Hmm Jonnykins...

    Are you in an alt?
    I PMed you in-game but you are offine

    No cap j in his name... coz he fails at grammar, just like everything else.
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  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oh...my....god....

    A WAFFLE! MINE!

    I gave you the half eaten waffle in game
    Ophida - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No cap j in his name... coz he fails at grammar, just like everything else.

    b:sad
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I gave you the half eaten waffle in game

    b:sad

    **** the half eaten waffle, I want TT90 mats! And a glass of juice!
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    well true to my word I did get to Snowy Village and bagged me the Teleport points of both Snowy Village and Village of Shattered Ice
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.

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