Should I charge to go and Res people?

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  • Rhiama - Sanctuary
    Rhiama - Sanctuary Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    GothicAngeI - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes it does work both ways .. but I dont see the Bm's, Venos, Wizzies making " Should I Charge " threads.

    Maybe we should all make a price list :p

    God my BM would make a fortune.

    Stunned Mobs : 10k
    Aoe: 25k
    Tanking bosses: 75k
    Saving a Clerics life and XP : 500k
    Helping others for free because its a nice thing to do: Priceless


    Maybe I see and play the game differantly I dunno... If I can help people I help, sometimes thats at a cost to myself but I still wouldnt expect compensation or payment ( Maybe Im a fool, to nice or both lol )

    But I suppose its like RL. Some people will have the " Sure no problem " attitude while others will have the " Whats in it for me ? "

    I've have had people ask for money when they are helping me with a quest. I've seen it a number of times on world chat, people advertising that for this amount of coins, I'll kill this boss for you. So they can charge and it be aokay, but clerics can't?
    I heal, buff, or resurrect anyone without a problem unless they are rude about it. I do not expect pay and no one has ever offered. If someone offered, I'd thank them, but truthfully, I wouldn't want it. I choose this class because I wanted to help people, not to make money. I think all clerics should have a boundary. How many times they will resurrect someone, heal them, buff them.
    That being said, I think clerics have every right to charge for resurrecting someone if they want too. Clerics have to spend a large amount of time to gain experience and spirit to level that skill. By resurrecting someone, they do not get anything in return. When another class levels their skills, they somehow do end up getting the experience and spirit back through tanking bosses or in some other way. Clerics resurrect skill does nothing for them.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Disqualifying my opinion because of who i am, and not because of it's merits, just goes to show your argument is not solid.

    I expressed my point of view as to the thread's subject; Clerics are well within their right to charge for res. Although it doesn't personally affect me as i never ask, i would myself consider them petty and cheap for doing so.

    Your argument stems from clerics having suffered so much wrongs and abuse that they're ENTITLED to get something in return. Sorry, i don't believe in that, it's nothing but bull to me even if it was true that clerics have to put up with so much, as they're usually very willing to reap the benefits their class provides. And there are benefits to being a cleric most other classes don't get so STFU.

    And clerics do get their investment in res back as it's one of the reasons they get into squads. It's not just because they can heal... Once again, the reason we are all willing to die for clerics is because they can use revive.
  • HeavensWing - Sanctuary
    HeavensWing - Sanctuary Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    First of all, Considering your mana Amount and how a Little revive skill Costs almost Nothing of your mp, why would you need a Pot? if you want that little MP cant you Meditate just for a minute? And how does your Res skill Tick your charm? The only way I see this happening is if your a HA Cleric with almost no mana <.>
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  • JadianWings - Heavens Tear
    JadianWings - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thanks everyone, was very interesting reading everyones opinions!

    And, I did choose to be a cleric. I love being a cleric! I enjoy helping others, and being a important part of a squad! And so, my choice, is to not charge!b:thanks

    but if gifts are offered,I will take; and with thanks! One thing I have decided to do tho... is to say No a bit more often, so I'm not used and walked all over!b:victory

    Thanks for the replys, and have fun ingame!!! b:byeb:kiss
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    JadianWings - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    but if gifts are offered,I will take; and with thanks! One thing I have decided to do tho... is to say No a bit more often, so I'm not used and walked all over!b:victory

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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    HeavensWing - Sanctuary wrote: »
    First of all, Considering your mana Amount and how a Little revive skill Costs almost Nothing of your mp, why would you need a Pot? if you want that little MP cant you Meditate just for a minute? And how does your Res skill Tick your charm? The only way I see this happening is if your a HA Cleric with almost no mana <.>

    The payment I would refer to (I will leave it to others to state their opinion) is the time I have to go out of the way to get to the spot of the rez.

    In a squad in most cases I would not even bother demanding payment as I choose to be there and I see it as beneficial to stay around to finish the goal of that squad. If the squad clearly messes up I will leave said squad and be on my merry.

    I, if I feel like it, will rez/buff for free and I will not look back on the investment to took to get those skills as I see it as beneficial or you simple reaped the benefits of a goal I made in the past.

    If I am out in the field and I am grinding you will get buffs/rez for free IF I feel like. I will buff/rez for free per default if I am in a squad and the MP's spent are directly helping out the squad and therefor me.

    The argument that I am to up my rez skill or not be a cleric as people assume I should be is bogus.

    At the end of the day you are at the mercy of my mood. I can be a devil or saint. Respect me for what I can do and you will see me a saint and I will be that saint. Disrespecting me by telling me what you think I should be will result in you having to face a devil in the face.
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  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    For those that think this is mean....try being a cleric.

    Every time I log onto my 81 cleric, I get PM *****.

    "FF PLEASE"
    "TT PLEASE"
    "FB PLEASE"
    "BH PLEASE"
    "REEEESSSSS"
    "BUFFFFSSSSS"
    "I NEED (X) BOSS"
    "CAN U HULP ME WID MAI QUEST!?!?!??!1111"

    Seriously. It gets irritating. I'd just squad with a random friend on my list just to avoid getting random invites.
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This thread leaks of so much QQ it's rather disturbing.
    I'm sure that the developers didn't give the CLERIC class a resurrection skill just so they could wave their epeen in the front of a dead person and ask for money to do what only they are capable of doing. Being the only class capable of keeping people alive, it seems many have exaggerated self importance.

    Oh trust me. If a BM could res another class I would be more than happy to townport and res the rest of the fail squad, as I do when one of my lowbie alts fail at BH and the squad just fails as a whole so I town port out of the instance and just bring my highest level character to complete the run for everyone else.

    Did anyone ask me to town port? No.
    I do because I CAN. I can do my part to make others happy BECAUSE I HAVE THE ABILITY TO.

    Charge for res? Give me a break. Do Barbs charge you for tanking? Do Wiz charge you for being the biggest mana spender? Do Venos charge you for using an overpowered pet that they spent fortunes for? Do Archers charge you for having to spend more money than other classes to deal damage? Do BMs charge you for saving your fragile **** from being ganked?

    No.

    They do those things because IT'S WHAT THEY CAN BRING TO THE TABLE. Res is something they CAN'T bring to the table so they depend on YOU. If such dependence isn't enough to feed your already gigantic epeen, I'm sorry I don't know any other way.

    You HAVE the ability to help others so WHY NOT USE THEM. "Oh QQ if I lose exp then everyone else should lose exp!". Do you not realize how bloody selfish that is? Don't get me wrong here. I respect Clerics and what they bring to the table. But I find it highly disturbing that some of you are refusing to do what you can actually do to help others. No you don't have to go out of your way to res some random idiot that died from acting idiotic. But exaggerating your worth just because you can do something nobody else can and not actually DO it unless compensated is just a massive unwarranted ego trip.

    If you have to cry about how hard it is being a Cleric, please do everyone a favor; stfu and go roll some other class that doesn't require so much of your oh-so-valuable time, mana, and money.
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I choose to a cleric to be jack-of-all-trades.

    To be that I don't have to up the rez-skill. It's not of benifit to me.
    I for one could get me a bunch of rez-scrolls NOT level the skill and still perform the "action" you assume I should have by virtue of being named a cleric.
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  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    maocchi wrote: »
    blah blah blah
    tl;dr QQ post
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I choose to a cleric to be jack-of-all-trades.

    To be that I don't have to up the rez-skill. It's not of benifit to me.
    I for one could get me a bunch of rez-scrolls NOT level the skill and still perform the "action" you assume I should have by virtue of being named a cleric.
    So as a BM, I can choose not to upgrade my stun skills and AoE skills because they are "of no benefit to me"?

    Next time we play each other, please don't expect me to AoE stun the mobs or use the party buff you assume I should do by virtue of being named a Blademaster.

    @Astoru
    Go away.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    maocchi wrote: »
    So as a BM, I can choose not to upgrade my stun skills and AoE skills because they are "of no benefit to me"?

    Next time we play each other, please don't expect me to AoE stun the mobs or use the party buff you assume I should do by virtue of being named a Blademaster.

    @Astoru
    Go away.

    I really hope you're joking. A Blademaster's AoE skills benefit them as well, because it helps them when grinding and has use in PvP. A Cleric's Revive skill doesn't help as AT ALL. It can't be used in a fight to hurt the other person, it can't stop a mob from attacking, all it does is bring somebody other than yourself to life.

    You're an idiot...
  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    maocchi wrote: »
    So as a BM, I can choose not to upgrade my stun skills and AoE skills because they are "of no benefit to me"?

    Next time we play each other, please don't expect me to AoE stun the mobs or use the party buff you assume I should do by virtue of being named a Blademaster.

    @Astoru
    Go away.
    I'll laugh the day you die 'cause you refused to stun b:laugh
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    fine with me Maocchi.

    I bet that the stun skill is of benifit to you in itself when you get into a situation where stunning would be a way out of dodge you sure wise you had it maxed.

    The rez-skill has no effect on mobs now does it....
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I really hope you're joking. A Blademaster's AoE skills benefit them as well, because it helps them when grinding and has use in PvP. A Cleric's Revive skill doesn't help as AT ALL. It can't be used in a fight to hurt the other person, it can't stop a mob from attacking, all it does is bring somebody other than yourself to life.

    You're an idiot...

    I don't need AoE skills to grind. I don't need to stun to survive.
    Why should I spend spirit and money leveling something I don't need?

    I will only level skills that benefit ME and ME only. Benefit others? **** them.
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rez-skill does not benifit me as cleric as a skill I can use for myself to grind solo...

    Therefor by that logic why would I level it up?
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    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    maocchi wrote: »
    I don't need AoE skills to grind. I don't need to stun to survive.
    Why should I spend spirit and money leveling something I don't need?

    I will only level skills that benefit ME and ME only. Benefit others? **** them.

    Stuns do benefit you, if you choose not to use them or get them that's your mistake. Revive benefits the Cleric in no way whatsoever, it's only used for others so they don't lose experience. You're missing the whole point.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I choose to a cleric to be jack-of-all-trades.

    To be that I don't have to up the rez-skill. It's not of benifit to me.
    I for one could get me a bunch of rez-scrolls NOT level the skill and still perform the "action" you assume I should have by virtue of being named a cleric.

    You are not a jack-of-all-trades. That's the veno role and that's actually on it's class description. If you don't see the benefit in ressing others then you're not a team player and very likely dangerous to squad with. Good luck getting into a squad as jack of all trades, master of none (that's what the phrase means). No one 70+ will take a cleric without maxed res into their squads...

    There's another poster on this page claiming something about his moods and how he can be a saint or a demon. Get over yourself. The only power you hold is the ability to annoy others. I agree with the BM commenting on E-peen.

    No disrespect to good clerics but i'm starting to wonder if these aren't the same guys qqing about sins being left out of squads...
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Um... Blademaster's are the jack-of-all-trades, ijsb:bye
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Disqualifying my opinion because of who i am, and not because of it's merits, just goes to show your argument is not solid.

    I expressed my point of view as to the thread's subject; Clerics are well within their right to charge for res. Although it doesn't personally affect me as i never ask, i would myself consider them petty and cheap for doing so.

    Your argument stems from clerics having suffered so much wrongs and abuse that they're ENTITLED to get something in return. Sorry, i don't believe in that, it's nothing but bull to me even if it was true that clerics have to put up with so much, as they're usually very willing to reap the benefits their class provides. And there are benefits to being a cleric most other classes don't get so STFU.

    And clerics do get their investment in res back as it's one of the reasons they get into squads. It's not just because they can heal... Once again, the reason we are all willing to die for clerics is because they can use revive.

    Your opinion was disregard simply because your saying all this nonsense and your not even a cleric so how the hell would you know what goes on?

    You obviously cannot read or are simply ignorant. Not once have i said clerics need to be given something in return. So please re-read what i have posted before you start to type.

    Clerics do get alot of **** and ive said what that **** is mainly xp loss (unless we buy GS's) and we often do not get a ress either. We get random pm's from anyone asking for a ress everyday for the majority of social players. Simply because people do not want to lose 1%. If i die while grinding ill go straight to town as the way i see it its an extra 1%'s worth of drops/spirit.

    Clerics do have benefits obviously for one we have a range of healing skills, buffs and seals but that doesnt take away from other classes benefits like a barbs awesome defence/health, BMs range of skills if they choose all classes and the amount of aoe's and stuns they get from doing so, archers have an awesome crit rate and are imo the best DD's in this game not to mention they are smexy, veno have a personal barb and themselves can play as the cleric healing their pet and have it easier than any other class, so please before you point out out benefits dont make out that we are the only class that has benefits.

    Ermm if you think one of the main reason's clerics get into a squad is because of a ress than you are a fool. Cleric's main role is to heal, our job is to keep you alive and buff squad members and do what we need to do to keep the squad running smooth. Thats almost like saying the main reason people take a BM is because of HF or main reason people take a veno is for bramble. Our revive skill is just like those 2 i've mentioned its a very nice skill indeed and very helpful but that isn't why we are in the squad.

    So my advise to you is to learn a little bit more about the game and then come back to the forums as some of the things you are posting on here are completely and utterly stupid.
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray,

    I don't want to view me as a jack-of-all-trades as that is not your definition.
    Your view is not mine.

    I myself have been able to get into squad just fine. I can be a full blown support cleric in the back of the room making sure the squad live to fight another day as my skills are at all times fully maxed including that non-produtive, non-damaging skill called rez..

    Then again I can be out in the fields and never group and still be produtive just like any other class out there.
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Rez-skill does not benifit me as cleric as a skill I can use for myself to grind solo...

    Therefor by that logic why would I level it up?

    I don't know, why don't you ask yourself?
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Stuns do benefit you, if you choose not to use them or get them that's your mistake. Revive benefits the Cleric in no way whatsoever, it's only used for others so they don't lose experience. You're missing the whole point.

    Please enlighten me as to what point I am missing. You are QQing because you are expected to do something that doesn't benefit you.

    I leveled my stun skills and AoE skills because they are something a Blademaster can bring to the table, not because they benefit me.

    Res doesn't benefit you at ALL? Oh well, too bad too sad, sorry that you are the ONLY class that can res and everyone depends on you to USE it. Like I said, if that makes you mad please stfu and go roll some other class.
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    As far as charging for a res, I've never considered it. I'll willing res people nearby who ask politely and gladly fly accross the map for a guildie or friend. If a random person PMs me and I am busy or they are far away, I simply tell them 'Sorry' and go on with whatever I was doing.

    As far as not leveling res - there's not much of a point not to do it eventually, but I understand why some clerics don't level it early. I kept my res maxed to level as an act of friendship to my guildmates, and would do so again if I rolled a new cleric.

    For those who choose not to level it immediately, there's still no good excuse for not maxing it eventually, as clerics really have a smallish skill tree, you will eventually have spirit points flowing out of your ears, and it's a fairly inexpensive skill.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Um... Blademaster's are the jack-of-all-trades, ijsb:bye

    BMs have a lot of weapon choices, that's it. Venos can use any armor type, deal both melee and long range damage, as well as phys and mag damage. We can take on any role in the game; Tank (using pets or by ourselves), Healer (on pets), DD (heard of nix?), support (debuffs like Ironwood and Amp Dmg) and luring (what we specialize on). No other class has as many options which is the reason we are not so strong.

    It's the very deffinition of jack of all trades. L2play noob.
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The skills you refer to are both benefital to you AND others as something useful that can be cast when it is cast.

    Rez-skill is useful for others only as a skill when cast..

    Get it?
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Please enlighten me as to what point I am missing. You are QQing because you are expected to do something that doesn't benefit you.

    I leveled my stun skills and AoE skills because they are something a Blademaster can bring to the table, not because they benefit me.

    Res doesn't benefit you at ALL? Oh well, too bad too sad, sorry that you are the ONLY class that can res and everyone depends on you to USE it. Like I said, if that makes you mad please stfu and go roll some other class.

    My point is that Revive doesn't even have the potential to be of benefit to the user, while stuns can safe your life or make things far easier, whether you're in a squad or not. Like I said before, you completely missed the point.


    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    BMs have a lot of weapon choices, that's it. Venos can use any armor type, deal both melee and long range damage, as well as phys and mag damage. We can take on any role in the game; Tank (using pets or by ourselves), Healer (on pets), DD (heard of nix?), support (debuffs like Ironwood and Amp Dmg) and luring (what we specialize on). No other class has as many options which is the reason we are not so strong.

    It's the very deffinition of jack of all trades. L2play noob.


    I can use both Physical and Magic attack too... I can tank majority of think in this game unless they hit some ungodly amount, my debuffs are superior to Venomancer debuffs, and I think somebody is forgetting the Phoenix can't be used in instances. Not to mention I can use my Zeal to lure.

    So... since I can do pretty much anything you can, does that make me a jack of all trades too?
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I can use both Physical and Magic attack too... I can take majority of think in this game unless they hit some ungodly amount, my debuffs are superior to Venomancer debuffs, and I think somebody is forgetting the Phoenix can't be used in instances.

    So... since I can do pretty much anything you can, does that make me a jack of all trades too?

    Haven't you learnt MANray_ has no clue yet b:chuckle. Pretty much all class can be declared that if you put it a certain way.
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I think his/her definition is actually 'jack of all but one trades' as they left out the ability to heal other players. Kind of an important oversight :p
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  • Ophida - Dreamweaver
    Ophida - Dreamweaver Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    As far as charging for a res, I've never considered it. I'll willing res people nearby who ask politely and gladly fly accross the map for a guildie or friend. If a random person PMs me and I am busy or they are far away, I simply tell them 'Sorry' and go on with whatever I was doing.

    As far as not leveling res - there's not much of a point not to do it eventually, but I understand why some clerics don't level it early. I kept my res maxed to level as an act of friendship to my guildmates, and would do so again if I rolled a new cleric.

    For those who choose not to level it immediately, there's still no good excuse for not maxing it eventually, as clerics really have a smallish skill tree, you will eventually have spirit points flowing out of your ears, and it's a fairly inexpensive skill.
    You ever try charging me for a res, and I'll charge you for every spark I pass and every amp damage I perform. Heck, I'll start charging you by the hour for my company... actually, scrub that last one b:avoid

    (To casual observers, we're friends and that is a joke - I'm sure someone will try to make something of it though ._.)
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The skills you refer to are both benefital to you AND others as something that can be cast when it is cast.

    Rez-skill is usefull of others only as a skill when cast..

    Get it?

    Thank you for proving further that you have gigantic epeen.
    Res benefits others GREATLY. Yet you refuse to do it because it doesn't benefit YOU.

    Rest assured, nobody would care if you weren't the only class in the game who can res others. But alas, that is not the case and you are irreplaceable therefore you gain massive amount of ego from it.

    Please go re-read my original post because you don't seem to get what I've been trying to say.

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