Treatment of Clerics

hallsvaporaction

Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »

first off, i dont think i was pointing the finger at you specifically... i was just giving my opinion and how i play the game. everyone has a right to their own... if you want to let people die then go ahead, i think that shows an ignorance in yourself as well. you cant punish people and hope they learn from your punishment... if they blame you then most likely they are gonna keep thinking its you and find another cleric whether they say it to your face or not.
people dont die often enough around me for me to understand what you mean. i learned how to play with the risky players... i am one myself and its a fun challenge keeping everyone alive, thats why i play a cleric.

You make me want to start a toon on Sanctuary, friendlist you to babysit me all day. b:dirty I'll be that lvl89 friend who's never made a single wine because you'll have provided me with every FB/BH wine up to that point. I'll be that lvl95 second cleric who demon sparks with that lvl96 archer and lvl93 wizzie together and play aggro tag with the bosses in BH, because surely you can cast wings of protection on all of us (3 min cooldown be damned) and you better keep us all healed and proper like or we'll be spamming your channels with FAIL messages for hours on end, three **** messages every 6 seconds. b:angry or I can be the double holypathed + cloud sprinting 0 vit lvl60 BM who's already aggroed Fushma when you have just entered the instance, but you better not let my charm tick or I won't be respecting you no more. Talk about high lvl fail... Rest assured that I'll be asking for rez on every death regardless of where you are. Sure you maybe in FB/TT/RB etc, but I need rez now!!! I'll be the Barb that asks you for MP pots on every run because all clerics carry a lot them right? Why should I buy/farm when you'll just give them to me? Oh yeah, do that for me and I'll accord you with all the "respect" and "appreciation" you deserve b:kiss Earn your place in my rude cold heart, my good friend, earn it!!!!

Kawakami - Dreamweaver

Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »

first off, i dont think i was pointing the finger at you specifically... i was just giving my opinion and how i play the game. everyone has a right to their own... if you want to let people die then go ahead, i think that shows an ignorance in yourself as well. you cant punish people and hope they learn from your punishment... if they blame you then most likely they are gonna keep thinking its you and find another cleric whether they say it to your face or not.
people dont die often enough around me for me to understand what you mean. i learned how to play with the risky players... i am one myself and its a fun challenge keeping everyone alive, thats why i play a cleric.

I never said you pointed your finger at me. I played with enough risky players, but it's the verbal one's I have problems with, since they don't listen. Mostly people will listen to me and hold back, so I have no problem with them. As far as the people don't die often enough around me to understand part, 99% of the times I let them die on purpose, the 1% being when they run out of range. But I guess our perception of a challenge differs, my only real challenge is PvP, not keeping people who don't want to listen alive. But it looks like you thrive on keeping people alive regardless of how intolerable they can be and take pride in doing so.

Before you are going to try to expose my flaws, I joined PvE to learn the game and I learned enough to getting PK'ed by higher levels with the long-winded leveling to not be worth it on a PvP server unless I inject a lot of cash.

On a side note : people who still keep blaming other people when they are wrong won't learn from a single moment, they will need a lot of those before they finally learn, keeping them alive is not the best of solutions.

And to Aadi : I have no problem with quoting Machiavelli ^^ Basic human perception of life is flawed since a bacteria is equal in terms of existence to even a human being. But yeah, emotions take control when it comes to people close to you, then being rational will be next to nothing mostly.

Mendolin - Sanctuary

hallsvaporaction wrote: »

You make me want to start a toon on Sanctuary, friendlist you to babysit me all day. b:dirty I'll be that lvl89 friend who's never made a single wine because you'll have provided me with every FB/BH wine up to that point. I'll be that lvl95 second cleric who demon sparks with that lvl96 archer and lvl93 wizzie together and play aggro tag with the bosses in BH, because surely you can cast wings of protection on all of us (3 min cooldown be damned) and you better keep us all healed and proper like or we'll be spamming your channels with FAIL messages for hours on end, three **** messages every 6 seconds. b:angry or I can be the double holypathed + cloud sprinting 0 vit lvl60 BM who's already aggroed Fushma when you have just entered the instance, but you better not let my charm tick or I won't be respecting you no more. Talk about high lvl fail... Rest assured that I'll be asking for rez on every death regardless of where you are. Sure you maybe in FB/TT/RB etc, but I need rez now!!! I'll be the Barb that asks you for MP pots on every run because all clerics carry a lot them right? Why should I buy/farm when you'll just give them to me? Oh yeah, do that for me and I'll accord you with all the "respect" and "appreciation" you deserve b:kiss Earn your place in my rude cold heart, my good friend, earn it!!!!

i love your sarcasm... its really cute ^^
but obviously you dont know me... and im a good enough cleric to have everyone live in those situations and im very confident about it.
most of the time im the first on the scene and ill start tanking stuff by myself... because i can.
im sorry that you have been hurt by those rude toons in game lol and that they actually get to you enough judging by your rough sarcasm in your words above. but before you go QQ, feel free and make a toon on the Sanctuary server and ill give you lots of hugs. i dont give out money or things... i dont have to, i simply do my job as a cleric ^^

Mendolin - Sanctuary

Kawakami - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I never said you pointed your finger at me. I played with enough risky players, but it's the verbal one's I have problems with, since they don't listen. Mostly people will listen to me and hold back, so I have no problem with them. As far as the people don't die often enough around me to understand part, 99% of the times I let them die on purpose, the 1% being when they run out of range. But I guess our perception of a challenge differs, my only real challenge is PvP, not keeping people who don't want to listen alive. But it looks like you thrive on keeping people alive regardless of how intolerable they can be and take pride in doing so.

Before you are going to try to expose my flaws, I joined PvE to learn the game and I learned enough to getting PK'ed by higher levels with the long-winded leveling to not be worth it on a PvP server unless I inject a lot of cash.

On a side note : people who still keep blaming other people when they are wrong won't learn from a single moment, they will need a lot of those before they finally learn, keeping them alive is not the best of solutions.

And to Aadi : I have no problem with quoting Machiavelli ^^ Basic human perception of life is flawed since a bacteria is equal in terms of existence to even a human being. But yeah, emotions take control when it comes to people close to you, then being rational will be next to nothing mostly.

*cough* pvp is a totally different subject... im a pvp cleric but we are simply and obviously talking about pve relations am i wrong?

Kawakami - Dreamweaver

Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »

*cough* pvp is a totally different subject... im a pvp cleric but we are simply and obviously talking about pve relations am i wrong?

You are not wrong, I just took account of your possibilities to make yourself look better than me. But your cough only comes after I said something doesn't it b:shutup

hallsvaporaction

Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »

i love your sarcasm... its really cute ^^
but obviously you dont know me... and im a good enough cleric to have everyone live in those situations and im very confident about it.
most of the time im the first on the scene and ill start tanking stuff by myself... because i can.
im sorry that you have been hurt by those rude toons in game lol and that they actually get to you enough judging by your rough sarcasm in your words above. but before you go QQ, feel free and make a toon on the Sanctuary server and ill give you lots of hugs. i dont give out money or things... i dont have to, i simply do my job as a cleric ^^

Will do. I'll message you the first chance I create a toon. But I need coins too!! Giving to the poor should be your jobs too >.> Just go grind on some high lvl mobs and help a lowbie out b:thanks

Mendolin - Sanctuary

Kawakami - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You are not wrong, I just took account of your possibilities to make yourself look better than me. But your cough only comes after I said something doesn't it b:shutup

well let me apologize to you ok? in no way, shape or form was i saying that you were a bad cleric... i mean... look at your level and look at mine. we do not compare. im not saying you are worse off then me, but i have more skills and i spend money in the game for good armor as well. you and i both probably are great clerics for their level. i dont know you and have no right to judge you. you simply responded to my opinion and took what i said the wrong way. my main argument is im tired of clerics b1tching... it gets old, suck it up. this is a game, and it is hardly a perfect world... the world is not all sugar plums and lollipops. everyone plays their own part in this game no matter what class you are. why should clerics be treated any different?

Mendolin - Sanctuary

hallsvaporaction wrote: »

Will do. I'll message you the first chance I create a toon. But I need coins too!! Giving to the poor should be your jobs too >.> Just go grind on some high lvl mobs and help a lowbie out b:thanks

make sure you switch into pk mode for me too ok? b:kiss thanks hun!

can i ask why people have such a problem with my opinion? does it really bother clerics in this game that people dont appreciate you? this whole thing has moved from appreciation to doing everything for you... i never said that

hallsvaporaction

Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »

make sure you switch into pk mode for me too ok? b:kiss thanks hun!

I don't need to pk when you can pk for me. b:pleased You can help me kill those dastardly lvl70ish fail clerics who hasn't gotten TEH lvl79/100 skillz. I mean, look at their lvl >.> they just don't compare. b:laugh

Kawakami - Dreamweaver

Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »

well let me apologize to you ok? in no way, shape or form was i saying that you were a bad cleric... i mean... look at your level and look at mine. we do not compare. im not saying you are worse off then me, but i have more skills and i spend money in the game for good armor as well. you and i both probably are great clerics for their level. i dont know you and have no right to judge you. you simply responded to my opinion and took what i said the wrong way. my main argument is im tired of clerics b1tching... it gets old, suck it up. this is a game, and it is hardly a perfect world... the world is not all sugar plums and lollipops. everyone plays their own part in this game no matter what class you are. why should clerics be treated any different?

I guess I took it the wrong way. And I agree with you, but most people seem to have trouble playing a Cleric since they are one of the demanding classes in a squad and want ( or want not ) some appreciation for their work. I knew what I was in for when I switched from my BM to my Cleric as main, I only wasn't ready for all the possible people not making it as fun compared to a BM, but that was my mistake for having good expectations of human beings ( with exceptions )

Mendolin - Sanctuary

hallsvaporaction wrote: »

I don't need to pk when you can pk for me. b:pleased You can help me kill those dastardly lvl70ish fail clerics who hasn't gotten TEH lvl79/100 skillz. I mean, look at their lvl >.> they just don't compare. b:laugh

you are very good at twisting my apology into an insult b:chuckle
im not looking for a fight

Mendolin - Sanctuary

Kawakami - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I guess I took it the wrong way. And I agree with you, but most people seem to have trouble playing a Cleric since they are one of the demanding classes in a squad and want ( or want not ) some appreciation for their work. I knew what I was in for when I switched from my BM to my Cleric as main, I only wasn't ready for all the possible people not making it as fun compared to a BM, but that was my mistake for having good expectations of human beings ( with exceptions )

this might sound stupid... but if its not much fun then make it fun b:chuckle
i die all the time lol cuz i think its funny to push my limits to see what i can do. like round up a ton of lvl 109 mobs and try and tank them b:surrender i dont know... makes things more fun for me lol i dont mind dieing.