Change the Bounty Hunter rewards
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Aright everyone,
Yelling at GMs and forum moderators about what was posted previously by myself or other members of PWE, and arguing semantics is not going to change what's currently been implemented into the game.
The heart of the problem is that you guys are upset about what the Bounty Hunter's current rewards are. We understand that, and are more than willing to voice your concern to the development team.
Please focus further discussion in this thread on the topic at hand.
Alright I'm reposting this because it seems like this is getting a bit off topic again. If this becomes a fleshream QQ thread it's getting locked
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I got a chance to do the Bounty Hunter quest yesterday, it was great. 200,000 bonus XP, helping out a tabber, normal xp and rep for tabs, I have no complaints.
It's still a little wacky that level 100s get crazy item rewards, but the quest itself doesn't need any changes imo.0 -
LOL....I cannot believe this is still going b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
"Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
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I think, lvl 100 + need the stuff , cauze in hi lvl is prety danm hard get exp, but still will be nice balance in price, for low lvl like me at least 5 chips of stuff like that, i not complain about th exp reward!!![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Thelegion - Lost City wrote: »I think, lvl 100 + need the stuff , cauze in hi lvl is prety danm hard get exp, but still will be nice balance in price, for low lvl like me at least 5 chips of stuff like that, i not complain about th exp reward!!!
I will not complain about that.
I did two runs yesterday = approximately 40min (MAX) = 600k exp b:dirty[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
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Anyone else pissed that we now need to farm mats to make wine just to run this daily?
Going by prices from before the implement, the wine for the 8X BH is 160k total, for exp of crazy stone.
After the implement high mats doubled in price to 4k if you find them. So thats 320k for 200k exp. Crazy stone is 71k for the same exp. Do the developers think any of this through other than, costs the players money=more money for us.
Well done devs, screwed over the player base once more -.-
As for 'informing the Developers of our concerns', I think we all know how effective that is.Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »Anyone else pissed that we now need to farm mats to make wine just to run this daily?
Going by prices from before the implement, the wine for the 8X BH is 160k total, for exp of crazy stone.
After the implement high mats doubled in price to 4k if you find them. So thats 320k for 200k exp. Crazy stone is 71k for the same exp. Do the developers think any of this through other than, costs the players money=more money for us.
Well done devs, screwed over the player base once more -.-
As for 'informing the Developers of our concerns', I think we all know how effective that is.
*glad i have hundreds of mats* b:pleased0 -
You don't have to use mats you lazy people. I got to do 69 unwined yesterday, and others in the squad agreed it was fun.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »*glad i have hundreds of mats* b:pleased
*pokes Bob*
WTB> Bob's Mats....will pay VERY nicely b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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You don't have to use mats you lazy people. I got to do 69 unwined yesterday, and others in the squad agreed it was fun.
how fun will it be after you run it for the 80th time?Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »how fun will it be after you run it for the 80th time?
You're still doing WQ and CS right?Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
You're still doing WQ and CS right?
CS takes like 15mins max...
WQ takes around 20-30mins if you're not a cheapass with some of the teleports, or if you do plan to fly, at least you can do other stuff while you're afk
FB69 unwined... try finish that within an hour, not to mention the death risks, FB69 unwined is just a plain waste of time and a pain in the ****0 -
You're still doing WQ and CS right?
CS I do, pick up quest, play, turn in wuest, log off, at most I spend 1-2 minutes extra to do the quest. And WQs only when I cannot be "realy playing", such as if I have to do other RL stuff at same time, so I just afk fly between stops.
I have no issues with the new quests, it is a choice for using mats or not to wine. But running the same FB every day unwined is not "that" fun either....Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
So far I've done an eden and brimstone run for my bounty hunter... each person only has to pitch in 5 of each special mat for the wine. That takes like less than 10 minutes to farm.
Or, people can just wine the whole thing and have dibs on the molds... I do a fb89 book/mold/page run every other day anyways.
If you guys can't find a party who can split 5 of each mats for the wine, then all I can really say is you should consider joining a more active guild b:chuckle.HT clerics at their finest:
hari: can you do mdef debuffs? makes the fight go faster
naughty_x: waste, I do more damage without them
hari: ...you do more damage in 2 seconds than reducing mdef by 35% for 4 casters does in 20 seconds?
naughty_x: is waste, i do more damage
hari: 3-3 BH goes a lot faster with a sin
naughty_x: no, only a difference of like 3 minutes
hari: ...we've been in here a lot longer than 3 minutes already
naughty_x: your opinion0 -
Hari - Heavens Tear wrote: »So far I've done an eden and brimstone run for my bounty hunter... each person only has to pitch in 5 of each special mat for the wine. That takes like less than 10 minutes to farm.
Or, people can just wine the whole thing and have dibs on the molds... I do a fb89 book/mold/page run every other day anyways.
If you guys can't find a party who can split 5 of each mats for the wine, then all I can really say is you should consider joining a more active guild b:chuckle.
I have no issues with any other FB bosses, but it is hard to get a party for FB69s, specialy without rep from tabs to motivate the clerics and tank...Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »I have no issues with any other FB bosses, but it is hard to get a party for FB69s, specialy without rep from tabs to motivate the clerics and tank...
I think it took about 15 minutes to form the unwined 69 squad I was in the other day, but I was able to start clearing before we got the barb. Many people are realizing that rep farming is futile. I have over 12k rep and I don't use anything from it other than the -3% cloak from 5k rep.Darkjagans wrote:FB69 unwined... try finish that within an hour, not to mention the death risks, FB69 unwined is just a plain waste of time and a pain in the ****
Is the game fun or challenging if you're not risking death? I think it was the barb that commented that we were getting good xp on the elite mobs. We were also killing the mobs faster than my Tame Pet skill could refresh (for luring). Waste of time PITA is WQ, CS, Cube.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
Hari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
If you guys can't find a party who can split 5 of each mats for the wine, then all I can really say is you should consider joining a more active guild b:chuckle.
what if my guild is active but im one of the very few 9x O.o
i love my guild nd dont wanna leave but it makes findin BH parties a pain in the **** b:cry0 -
Kaarinaa - Lost City wrote: »what if my guild is active but im one of the very few 9x O.o
i love my guild nd dont wanna leave but it makes findin BH parties a pain in the **** b:cry
i have the same problem as you toob:cry...I'll just save those BH and do it whenever i find a pt (could be days/weeks/months)b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
well my opinion on this quest is changing a lot.
I thought initially the reward was ok but now I;m getting bored of killing this boss every day to level up quickb:laugh I know developers, we are hard to satisfy lol.
I;m fine with the reward but please make it something soloable, easy and quick, send me to FB29 or FB19 and make it random.b:laugh0 -
We were also killing the mobs faster than my Tame Pet skill could refresh.
I stop reading there lol
btw, i;m not a veno hater but this is too different for the other classes as you guys solo fb's, TTs, ect/
If I start killing mobs on FB69 on my own, I would be just looking for suicide lol.0 -
if you really want to waste up to 2 or 3 hours risking death instead of just spending a few mats just to have this sort of "fun" everyday, then that's fine with me, not like i'm gona stop you.Is the game fun or challenging if you're not risking death?
lol... oh of course, 600k+ exp from CS and WQ (lv90+) that can be so easily attained in less than an hour is such a waste of time and soooooooo hard to do, maybe we should just remove those from the game?Waste of time PITA is WQ, CS, Cube.
I don't even consider Cube a daily, it's not compulsory/important and it largely depends on luck whether you complete it or not.0 -
Darkjagans - Heavens Tear wrote: »lol... oh of course, 600k+ exp from CS and WQ (lv90+) that can be so easily attained in less than an hour is such a waste of time and soooooooo hard to do, maybe we should just remove those from the game?
Not waste of time for people who spend cash to compensate lost income. For non cash shoppers it's a trap. It's why we see lvl 80+ venos without legendary pets, why we see toons with armor 20 levels below, etc.
Today I answered a WC just like before (this time for Polearm), but this time the leader wined it. I suggested 3* and molds to Winer, but they suggested sell and split with a larger portion to Winer. We ended up with 1 mold and 3 3*.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
lol trap? very funnyNot waste of time for people who spend cash to compensate lost income. For non cash shoppers it's a trap. It's why we see lvl 80+ venos without legendary pets, why we see toons with armor 20 levels below, etc.
I've never spent a single cent on the game and i'm coping just fine, by the time i was lvl80, i was easily making 200-400k an hour, easily making up for the money used on CS/WQ with plenty of coins to spare
the choice is simple:
-waste time and money to grind 600k+ exp?
or
-spend around 70-150k max to attain 600k+ exp in less than an hour?
i think the choice is pretty clear
none of my businessToday I answered a WC just like before (this time for Polearm), but this time the leader wined it. I suggested 3* and molds to Winer, but they suggested sell and split with a larger portion to Winer. We ended up with 1 mold and 3 3*.0 -
its kind of silly the random ive seen with it some people getting the quest twice a day, sometimes doing fb79 sometimes either fb89, i guess it breaks up the monotony of killing same boss/fb every day but also silly killing dark green bosses(unless it was a real low lvl/fast fb) i rather get the fb89s then fb79s ew.that 400coins from the boss really pays for wine b:thanks
silly implementation i guess, would be nice for people of same lvl to get same boss, right now with the random looks more like a way to get wine/wine mats out of market drive up price and so people use cash shop, but it could be worse(multiple fb/boss for 1 quest?)?0 -
Aright everyone,
The heart of the problem is that you guys are upset about what the Bounty Hunter's current rewards are. We understand that, and are more than willing to voice your concern to the development team.
Please focus further discussion in this thread on the topic at hand.
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I think some of these rewards could use more exp. Right now at 79 I've gone 50/50 on getting Qianji or Resentful Pyrotesis for my bounties. Being a veno I can solo both of these pretty easily, but not every class can so I'll compare solo and squad rates. I'm assuming full squad exp is 25% of solo since I don't know exactly. Also, I'm estimating mob exp since it varies some.
Assume 5 minutes travel to the dungeon, 5 minutes travel from the dungeon, 10 to find the squad.
Qianji solo - 29 mobs (actually, you can do it in less but I'm keeping it consistent with a squad that doesn't sneak past quite as well)+boss. 250 exp per kill. That's 7250 exp for the clear, 150k for the kill. 157250 exp, takes about 15 minutes. Including travel time, 157250/25 min=6290 exp per minute.
Qianji squad - 29 mobs+boss. 62.5 exp per kill. That's 1812 exp for the clear, 150k for the kill. 151812 exp, takes about 10 minutes. Including travel time, 151812/30=5060 exp per minute.
Resentful solo - 107 mobs (roughly, it's hard to count, this is using the shortcut though)+boss. It's about 480 exp per kill, 51360 exp for the clear plus 150k for the kill. It takes me about 75 minutes to clear, plus ~15 minutes for pyro+noxtouch (required to open door). That's 201360 exp total in 95 minutes including travel time. Exp per minute of 2120.
Resentful squad - 107 mobs+boss, exp per kill of 120, 12840 exp for clear. 162840 exp total. Clear+kill time of about 45 minutes. Add travel/squad time and 65 minutes total. Exp per minute of 2505.
I don't even want to imagine the reward per minute for 79, that clear is horrible. My exp rate when solo is ~2297/minute (3.25 wereraven magus a minute, plus envoy, 2 min flight each way to get a new one). Half of my BH quests shouldn't be just about what I grind out solo with a considerably higher chance of dying during the BH.
I'm not really sure how to alleviate this, either they could be changed to outdoor bosses (preferably excluding the difficult ones which are kong, jewelscalen, mantavip, krimson, and probably DoD... not that he's difficult, but based on being related to mantavip), or maybe allow people with BH quests to get wine for less mats, like a single half strength wine will clear only to the boss you need and only be available with a BH quest and requires 1/4 the mats. Or simply change the targets. Why can't the 69 target be Serpentrex? He still has a good 35 mobs to kill to reach him. Why not have the 79 quests be to kill X mobs inside 79? (pick stuff that could be killed wined or unwined).
Or another option which would be even easier for players (maybe harder to implement), give them the option of having the FB get the wine effect once a day by paying coin if atleast half the party has a BH quest in that dungeon. You want a coin sink right? There's a way to drain it. Price the wine around the same as 4-6 crazy stones at a given level range. Each person can contribute some coin, and there you go.
Aside from that, it would be nice if they gave rep, particularly the ones that take place in FB69 and higher as stamps can't drop.0 -
Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »
Just wait until you hit 80, and doing it solo is no longer an option..... Specialy if you get polearm boss.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
I think to make things more variable they should make the bosses more random. Any boss that you have killed your level or lower would be fun. I don't just mean fb bosses either, imagine getting eyes again ^^.Spoons you will forever be missed in this community0
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IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just wait until you hit 80, and doing it solo is no longer an option..... Specialy if you get polyarm boss.
Ya, I'm not looking forward to that. I can solo Gaurnob now although it's not easy, polearm is an entirely different monster to tackle however. That also adds to the clear which reduces the exp/time ratio, and forces it from solo to squad which again reduces it. It also adds Undying Hornshell for another timesink.
The higher level ones either need a reduced timesink to reach the bounty, or a significantly higher reward. There's no point to doing it if it's riskier than normal grinding for the same reward or in some cases worse. Some bosses are also significantly harder than others (Myriadtail Wyvern vs Fushma for example). It's pretty inconsistent.0 -
Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm not really sure how to alleviate this, either they could be changed to outdoor bosses
This would probably need to lots of whining on world chat. Instanced mobs are better, since they spawn when you want, and cannot be KSed/camped by others.
I agree that some boss are much harder than others. Phlebo in Eden is much easier to reach and kill than Ethereal Abomination in Brimstone.
Maybe give us a choice of target, with rewards adjusted for the difficulty to reach it / kill it, would be good.
But... were was even one suggestion made on this forum ever implemented in the game? Everything is done in China, and I doubt they care much about our concerns.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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