Whats your opinion of clerics?

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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    a veno can solo everything except the herc lookalike and something in the wood realm. with a full party maybe 3-5 hours for a complete run
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    a veno can solo everything except the herc lookalike and something in the wood realm. with a full party maybe 5-6 hours.

    You contradicted yourself as you said solo with a full party.
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    where did i say i soloed it? he asked if i've ever been, and i have.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    You said it right here.
    veno can solo everything
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Zori - Lost City
    Zori - Lost City Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Like talking to a brick wall lol
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    lmao
    he's only 17, guys
    i just simply gave up too XD
  • BratFury - Heavens Tear
    BratFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    When I read him tell his age on the "whats your age poll" I gave up too.

    Someone has a siggy on here that says something like this: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

    All we keep doing is arguing with him, just let him think he's right. Eventually he will grow up and join the real world. Where his attitude will not get him very far.


    Neltharius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lmao
    he's only 17, guys
    i just simply gave up too XD
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  • Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary
    Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lmao
    he's only 17, guys
    i just simply gave up too XD

    His age doesn't make FACs any less fail.

    Lol @ 50+ dying to yansheng.
  • Batista - Dreamweaver
    Batista - Dreamweaver Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Unfortunately, I probably won't be called on much for my res ability ... I left the skill at 1 because I didn't want to be bothered by flying across the map 10 times a day for rezzing people.
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  • crystyl
    crystyl Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Batista - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Unfortunately, I probably won't be called on much for my res ability ... I left the skill at 1 because I didn't want to be bothered by flying across the map 10 times a day for rezzing people.

    Although there are different ways to build a cleric I chose Cleric to actually "Be" a Cleric. I rarely fly any distance to rez unless it's for a A friend but I will heal or buff people near me when they ask. I have occasionally flown to someone only to find someone else has rezzed them (would have been nice if they had told me) I also had someone in the Swamp invite me to join squad and, after buffs, kicked me from squad without ever saying a word. I would have done the buffs for them anyway but the rudeness was uncalled for.
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  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    My opinion of clerics? Simple. They taste pretty good when peppered with some arrows.

    ....Oh wait, that's probably not what you're asking.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My opinion of clerics? Simple. They taste pretty good when peppered with some arrows.

    ....Oh wait, that's probably not what you're asking.
    Archers are gummy and sinewy D=
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You said it right here.

    i'm a cleric, not a veno? the hell are you blabbering about?
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lmao
    he's only 17, guys
    i just simply gave up too XD

    okay.
    BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    When I read him tell his age on the "whats your age poll" I gave up too.

    Someone has a siggy on here that says something like this: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

    All we keep doing is arguing with him, just let him think he's right. Eventually he will grow up and join the real world. Where his attitude will not get him very far.

    have you maybe considered that.. hey, that solo class can, uh.. what is it? solo stuff?

    no, nonsense. those bosses need 3 clerics and a barb with 31k hp.

    ****.
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Archers are gummy and sinewy D=

    We taste like nix fodder :D
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  • BratFury - Heavens Tear
    BratFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Even more name calling, are you sure you are 17 even?


    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i'm a cleric, not a veno? the hell are you blabbering about?



    okay.



    have you maybe considered that.. hey, that solo class can, uh.. what is it? solo stuff?

    no, nonsense. those bosses need 3 clerics and a barb with 31k hp.

    ****.
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  • Pirodar - Sanctuary
    Pirodar - Sanctuary Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    when you hit lvl 90
    you're only 1/3 of the way to 100 exp wise
    so you tell me what a high lvl is

    Ok so I say 98. Good enough? Now You say that a high level wizard is useful in TW in response to my claim that wizards are useless. I stand corrected. Wizards are useless before 98. Better?
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    the damage output when you synchronize wizard spells right outdamages ANY class by far

    Is it after 98 too?

    Strange but the consensus seems to be, that archers just outdamage wizards on single target, period. But everybody may be wrong. It happens. Could You please give an example of such golden skill sequence that outdamages anything? Assume an opponent of any element You like.

    The sad truth is, that the damage a party member deals in a battle against a boss is restricted by the tank's ability to hold aggro anyway, so even if wizards did 5 times more damage than any other class it would have no value in such situation. It would simply mean a disaster.

    In what situation do you think it would have value?

    I'm not talking about PvP here. All I can think of is getting faster through the dungeon when killing mobs.

    But wzards don't do 5 times more damage than any other class. Archers outdamage wizards and often cause disasters, but their real value is Sharpened Tooth Arrow.

    Give me one ability only wizards have or are best at, that You consider necessary in Your party when doing some instance. If all You can think of is damage, then You should check how much damage a veno combined with her pet can do. Especially if You pick a Veno that alone is on the edge of pulling aggro from you.
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    full attack cleric heals are better heals than hybrid because heals depend on the magic
    full attack clerics have more magic
    therefore, have better heals

    Ok let me explain this remark : "FAC and heals ?" to You

    There is a difference between pure mag cleric and FAC. FAC is not just a cleric who focuses on dealing damage. FAC has philosophical take on this and doesn't want to play support role at all. To enforce this he intentionally leaves his support skills, that don't help him do more damage, at low levels, including heals.
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    the only difference between FAC and hybrid or vit clerics
    is that the others have more survivability while FAC change it for better heals and attacks

    Look above.
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Wizards do more damage than clerics
    Clerics Outlast better than wizards due to supporting skills

    Archers have higher DPS, which makes them more wanted in PVE
    Wizards do much higher Spike damage, which is much more wanted for PvP. Even single targets wizards are better here.

    FAC can have maxed attack skills for his level and still have ironheart maxed to keep himself alive (and be hybrid or pure, both work)
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Even more name calling, are you sure you are 17 even?

    if you're so old, why aren't you mature enough to stop arguing with silly little kids like me? i mean, i'm obviously wrong, right? venos can't solo **** b:bye
  • Centetric - Lost City
    Centetric - Lost City Posts: 1,528 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    To me i think the way some1 allocates their points and lvls skills determine how strong that person is. A cleric can be stronger than a wiz beacause they do not lvl their skills.(my opinion wiz overpower a cleric......considering the fact that i am 1)
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  • BratFury - Heavens Tear
    BratFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I've yet to comment on venos soloing or whatever your current malfunction is with the issue. Just the name calling you insist to continue to do.

    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    if you're so old, why aren't you mature enough to stop arguing with silly little kids like me? i mean, i'm obviously wrong, right? venos can't solo **** b:bye
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    if you really wanna be the 1 to have the last word, you could've just said so. w/e. you're just being annoyingly boring now
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i'm a cleric, not a veno? the hell are you blabbering about?



    You stuck your foot into this time in this thread didn't you and you did contradict yourself.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    what?! do you speak english? i need a translator b:surrender
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what?! do you speak english? i need a translator b:surrender

    Sure I do but I guess you need the last word.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • BratFury - Heavens Tear
    BratFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Mysti he's a 17 year old kid. Of course he has to have the last word!

    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Sure I do but I guess you need the last word.
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    you're both ****, aren't you? this explains your child, brat. did he get it from you?
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    At this pace this thread will end up in trash can.....
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    good, it's irritating me. i haven't seen such clueless newfags since mystic thought he could out-dps mages
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    you're both ****, aren't you? this explains your child, brat. did he get it from you?

    I am old enough to be you father Forp and if I was I would take over my knee for useing the r word.I would say using that word shows just how mature you really are.I guess that is how big vocabulary is.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    mm spoons needs to close this thread....
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