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lol per 2 levels 9 dex 1 str(if there was no wepon or armor requirments i would add all dex but...u cant have everything in a perfect world 0.ob:thanks)0
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Eh, I'd say pure, but I was adding some points into Dex, Str, and Vit up until level 7. Then for a bit I was doing the 2 str, 3 dex one level then 3 str, 2 dex the next level up until level 11. Well, something around those numbers. Then I just started adding doing the 1 str 4 dex each level...0
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1 str ever 2 lvls? you plan to use lower grade LA? b:shockedlol per 2 levels 9 dex 1 str(if there was no wepon or armor requirments i would add all dex but...u cant have everything in a perfect world 0.o)0 -
20 points to MAG for larger mana pool = more skills can be used and mana regenerates faster = PERPETUAL FLIGHT WITH BASIC WINGS = afk flying.
I TRIED the "PURE" build for the first 15 levels and ya know what??? Archers dont get out of DEX what my fist BM does - and I am fully comfortable statting THAT character pure Dex with only minimal contributions to STR (essentially 2str 3dex per level) Now that I've leveled off my MAG for perpetual flight, I'll be changing route and putting 3 dex 2 str per level = FASTER KILLS (before it even gets to me). in reading the "guide" it appears to me that the writer just likes to use base attack with only one skill per kill, then kite mobs around a lot. This is slow. The "pure" build has lots of ground to make up if it wants its DEX to rival that of my fist BM who is only level 13 and already has higher accuracy and evasion than my archer does after doing 15 levels of the pure build.0 -
I am going from hybird to DD so i can have good amount of health and also i can act as a DAMAGE DEALER xD i am soooo going to be the one of the best archer muwahahahahaha xD *hopes so*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »20 points to MAG for larger mana pool = more skills can be used and mana regenerates faster = PERPETUAL FLIGHT WITH BASIC WINGS = afk flying.
I TRIED the "PURE" build for the first 15 levels and ya know what??? Archers dont get out of DEX what my fist BM does - and I am fully comfortable statting THAT character pure Dex with only minimal contributions to STR (essentially 2str 3dex per level) Now that I've leveled off my MAG for perpetual flight, I'll be changing route and putting 3 dex 2 str per level = FASTER KILLS (before it even gets to me). in reading the "guide" it appears to me that the writer just likes to use base attack with only one skill per kill, then kite mobs around a lot. This is slow. The "pure" build has lots of ground to make up if it wants its DEX to rival that of my fist BM who is only level 13 and already has higher accuracy and evasion than my archer does after doing 15 levels of the pure build.
I'm not even a Pure Dex archer and I feel offended by this.0 -
i was a hibrif 7dex 2 vit 1 str...but now i cant remember what i put last so ill go with pureb:victory0
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Pure Dex here, My armour gives +8 Vit +12 Str and +4 Dex, w/o any shards. b:victoryProud member of Exclusive
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Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'm not even a Pure Dex archer and I feel offended by this.
which part?0 -
I guess i would be considered pure. I'm lvl 37 and have VIT 8 Magic 5 STR 38 and DEX 149 and that's without any +s from armor. With the only thing that changes is STR 41 and DEX 162. Is this a good build or should i put more into just DEX for a while? Let me know opinions please.0
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EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »20 points to MAG for larger mana pool = more skills can be used and mana regenerates faster = PERPETUAL FLIGHT WITH BASIC WINGS = afk flying.
You can buy a cape or a hat that gives +2 MP Recovery. This will allow you to fly without wasting 15 points into magic.EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »I TRIED the "PURE" build for the first 15 levels and ya know what??? Archers dont get out of DEX what my fist BM does - and I am fully comfortable statting THAT character pure Dex with only minimal contributions to STR (essentially 2str 3dex per level)
Dexterity adds to ranged damage.
Strength adds to melee damage.
I'm not sure how adding Dexterity to a Blademaster gives it more damage than adding Dexterity to an Archer.EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »Now that I've leveled off my MAG for perpetual flight, I'll be changing route and putting 3 dex 2 str per level = FASTER KILLS (before it even gets to me).
How does adding 3 to dex per level allow you to deal more damage than adding 4 to dex per level?EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »in reading the "guide" it appears to me that the writer just likes to use base attack with only one skill per kill, then kite mobs around a lot. This is slow.
No, the writer is high level and knows what (s)he is talking about. It is not about kiting. It is about killing things quickly, which usually means a minimal usage of skills.EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »The "pure" build has lots of ground to make up if it wants its DEX to rival that of my fist BM who is only level 13 and already has higher accuracy and evasion than my archer does after doing 15 levels of the pure build.
*giggle*... *snicker*0 -
well... I've not come across one yet, and prefer not to BUY my gear - rather to craft it.Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »You can buy a cape or a hat that gives +2 MP Recovery. This will allow you to fly without wasting 15 points into magic.
I see this now - thanks for pointing that out.Dexterity adds to ranged damage.
Strength adds to melee damage.
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How does adding 3 to dex per level allow you to deal more damage than adding 4 to dex per level?
It doesn't - however it gives an insane evasion and accuracy rate. In a duel the other day with a level 19 Barb against my level 13 Fist BM - I had the barb (with his his increased HP buff) down to a quarter health. All you saw was "miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss hit" above my head, whilst I was constantly hitting him at a rate of 1.43 times per second - versus his ~.64 times per second - mostly misses.I'm not sure how adding Dexterity to a Blademaster gives it more damage than adding Dexterity to an Archer.
well.. its not too late to continue down the 4 dex 1 str per level route. I only have 15 into mag which means I'd only be down like 1% on crit rate. 4 to dex every level starting at the first level up and continuing to level 100 will yield 5 + 396 = 401 dex for a crit rate of 21%No, the writer is high level and knows what (s)he is talking about. It is not about kiting. It is about killing things quickly, which usually means a minimal usage of skills.
*giggle*... *snicker*
401 - 15 = 386 dex for a crit rate of 20%
not overly terrible IMO.
as for my comment in regards to dex not doing for an archer what it will do for a BM - refer to the accuracy and evasion stats in the images below:
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EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »well... I've not come across one yet, and prefer not to BUY my gear - rather to craft it.
Good luck!EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »It doesn't - however it gives an insane evasion and accuracy rate. In a duel the other day with a level 19 Barb against my level 13 Fist BM - I had the barb (with his his increased HP buff) down to a quarter health. All you saw was "miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss hit" above my head, whilst I was constantly hitting him at a rate of 1.43 times per second - versus his ~.64 times per second - mostly misses.
Let me rephrase:
Why do the effects of adding Dexterity to your Blademaster have any relevancy whatsoever to your Archer build?
Why do the effects of adding Dexterity to your Blademaster have any relevancy whatsoever to your Archer's damage output?
Why do the effects of adding Dexterity to your Blademaster have any relevancy whatsoever to the difference between a Pure Dex Archer and your Archer with a build of 3 Dex / 2 Str per level?
Your original condescending, haughty claim was that Pure Dex is slower killing mobs because it deals less damage than 3 Dex / 2 Str per level. Please explain this.0 -
EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »well... I've not come across one yet, and prefer not to BUY my gear - rather to craft it.
It isn't going to matter much until just a little bit later in levels... If I would have to guess the 30s? You should often see Dexterity gear at very cheap prices even 3* items. This is due to the Bounty Hunter daily causing more of these items to drop in the game world.
You could be extremely lucky & craft your Dex gear but you will more than likely spend a fortune... By all means craft your gear to raise your profession levels but it will be a wise investment to buy what you still need afterwards.EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »as for my comment in regards to dex not doing for an archer what it will do for a BM - refer to the accuracy and evasion stats in the images below:
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You're also forgetting that an Archer is a range class while a Blademaster is melee. We get enough evasion + evasion buff to deal with any range physical mobs we may come across and as for melee mobs... After 19 the need for kiting will be cut drastically.
As for Accuracy Archers will still rarely miss but even when they do again keep in mind the range we have more often than not makes up for any bad luck.0 -
maybe im hybrid, when im making archer i make plan 10 vit, str level+4, max dex.
from lv 2-6 (i guess kinda forget) 1 vit, 1 str, 3 dex.
7-now 1 str 4 dex.
i have 10vit. 286 dex. 78 str. (without adding from gear, ornaments,tome or wpn)
with gear,etc i have 325 dex, 86 str, 29 vit b:cute
is that bad? b:surrender
but im happy anyway with my stat. i dont want to restat and i dont feel i need to. cuz i hate refining to +5 +6 or +7 and add immaculates perfect... i just refined my gear later only +3 and flawless no more than that b:cry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I got demon quickshot at last b:victoryb:thanks0 -
are you dense? or just being an "elitist" prick?Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »Good luck!
Let me rephrase:
Why do the effects of adding Dexterity to your Blademaster have any relevancy whatsoever to your Archer build?
Why do the effects of adding Dexterity to your Blademaster have any relevancy whatsoever to your Archer's damage output?
Why do the effects of adding Dexterity to your Blademaster have any relevancy whatsoever to the difference between a Pure Dex Archer and your Archer with a build of 3 Dex / 2 Str per level?
Any person with common sense could tell that I was comparing the stats from dex between the two characters and THAT has everything to do with statting dex to my archer - because its not getting the accuracy numbers I'm used to on my BM..
PERHAPS... just PERHAPS it may have something to do with the fact that I was as of yet unaware of the fact that adding dex will INFACT affect my ranged attack's strength. Had you paid close enough attention to my previous post - you should have noticed the fact that I actually THANKED you for mentioning that fact to me - so that I would not have messed up the character by statting into STR where it would have no effect on my ranged attacks. NOW.. is it so hard to believe that it is possible to have a side conversation within the thread?Your original condescending, haughty claim was that Pure Dex is slower killing mobs because it deals less damage than 3 Dex / 2 Str per level. Please explain this.
at any rate.. if you are "offended" by a post - GROW UP.0 -
EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »are you dense? or just being an "elitist" prick?
Any person with common sense could tell that I was comparing the stats from dex between the two characters and THAT has everything to do with statting dex to my archer - because its not getting the accuracy numbers I'm used to on my BM..
PERHAPS... just PERHAPS it may have something to do with the fact that I was as of yet unaware of the fact that adding dex will INFACT affect my ranged attack's strength. Had you paid close enough attention to my previous post - you should have noticed the fact that I actually THANKED you for mentioning that fact to me - so that I would not have messed up the character by statting into STR where it would have no effect on my ranged attacks. NOW.. is it so hard to believe that it is possible to have a side conversation within the thread?
at any rate.. if you are "offended" by a post - GROW UP.
1. Relax.
2. I am going to assume this is your first archer.
3. Listen to what higher leveled archers have to say and don't employ harsh tones in your posts. If you are unclear of something, ask politely. You barging in and claiming "so and so" is rude and hugely disrespectful.
4. If the archer community possessed a bigger biased towards people claiming they know the class at your levels, then there would be no more "high" levels to post. Why? They get driven out by the likes of you when they are providing their knowledge through experience.EronKillstar - Dreamweaver wrote: »20 points to MAG for larger mana pool = more skills can be used and mana regenerates faster = PERPETUAL FLIGHT WITH BASIC WINGS = afk flying.
I TRIED the "PURE" build for the first 15 levels and ya know what??? Archers dont get out of DEX what my fist BM does - and I am fully comfortable statting THAT character pure Dex with only minimal contributions to STR (essentially 2str 3dex per level) Now that I've leveled off my MAG for perpetual flight, I'll be changing route and putting 3 dex 2 str per level = FASTER KILLS (before it even gets to me). in reading the "guide" it appears to me that the writer just likes to use base attack with only one skill per kill, then kite mobs around a lot. This is slow. The "pure" build has lots of ground to make up if it wants its DEX to rival that of my fist BM who is only level 13 and already has higher accuracy and evasion than my archer does after doing 15 levels of the pure build.
5. Grow a few "ten" more levels before actually posting that, seriously.0 -
umm.. excuse me... eronkillstar u should lv up more then u know what best for archer. seriously. and dont compare BM with Archer. they are different b:surrender
or u can make new guide for ur stat b:chuckle i believe it can beat annor's guide b:cold[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I got demon quickshot at last b:victoryb:thanks0 -
1. I am (now)Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »1. Relax.
2. I am going to assume this is your first archer.
3. Listen to what higher leveled archers have to say and don't employ harsh tones in your posts. If you are unclear of something, ask politely. You barging in and claiming "so and so" is rude and hugely disrespectful.
4. If the archer community possessed a bigger biased towards people claiming they know the class at your levels, then there would be no more "high" levels to post. Why? They get driven out by the likes of you when they are providing their knowledge through experience.
5. Grow a few "ten" more levels before actually posting that, seriously.
2. it is
3 - 5. you will have to forgive my tone, however it was directed at no one in particular - thus I find it quite odd that anyone could become offended with it. but that is neither here nor there. my frustration is rooted in going according to the pure build that everyone seems to find to be the best, yet for me I found to be bad. Perhaps one should mention that in the early stages, pre knock-back arrow, that the pure build will still need to use their other skills. I found it quite odd that the guide suggests to halt on certain skills that I found to be most beneficial to my liveliness to have leveled up, as they give a higher damage output than a simple attack. sure now that I have knock-back arrow and a few different elementals, I can kill easier without macros of back to back skills... but pre knockback it took a full macro of up to date skills + a bit of kiting here and there to get the kills done. Hence why I said that using more skills equals a faster kill that relying on base attacks, thereby the increased mana pool did help me. As for the adding in extra str - it was a consideration I was making until you cleared that up for me. A potential mistake out of ignorance.
so hopefully now you understand where I am coming from and why my post may have sounded a bit "harsh" (although was not ever my intent).
perhaps b:laughI_missU - Dreamweaver wrote: »umm.. excuse me... eronkillstar u should lv up more then u know what best for archer. seriously. and dont compare BM with Archer. they are different
or u can make new guide for ur stat b:chuckle i believe it can beat annor's guide b:cold
lets all try to get along b:surrender and not rip each others heads off. my apologies0 -
My build is pure pwnage with an added bug.
Touch me i'll keel you.
Not really.
That's what she said.0 -
Annor! i am proud to say i used your guide as a basis when i started up and it helped me SO much, thank you very much for the wonderful help! I know there are many others with me on that
Anyways, i am a pure 100% dex build. I have minimum str to wear the armor i have, not for my level, and i have my dex completely maxed out. vit and mag are at 3, dex is at 406 atm. level 89 just went demon, i have take aim and blazing arrow and i can't wait to get quickshot! 0 -
It s weird that barbs and bms get more acc and evasion per added DEX point (bowbarb ftw xD)... but besides that it s complete bullsh*t to compare your lvl 14 BM to your lvl 20 archer and then say archers suck.
Besides that, pure dex here. Restatted my mag and vit to 3 yesterday and got myself 2 heavenly lord rings.
Oh and btw, Eron, i AM offended, being pure dex.If you've been bad, Lord I bet you have
And you've not been hit by flying lead
You'd better close your eyes and bow your head
And wait for the ricochet.0 -
Almost pure but added 1 point in magb:laughIm the biggest noobb:laughb:laughb:laughb:laugh0
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QQ when i started i didnt know what i was doing and now have 15 vit... 3 gold wasted T.T0
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Pure FTW b:laugh0
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Lots of mag with dex and str enough for LA!!! Oh wait I'm a wiz.
I just had to see the poll results :P b:laugh .0 -
i add 3 dex and 2 str every lvl...so im a melee?0
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Pure build here.
restatted to 3 vit 3 magic
i got Gold TT80 LA because its just as good as TT90 if you ask me
The biggest reason i did this was to maximize damage. now i dont have to worry about the extra str needed for the TT90 armor and i've just been pumping 5 dex every level.
I don't really have a problem with HP either
i have 5k+ non buffed atm and its not like i need it anyway, since i kill most everything before it gets near me.0 -
I think I'm a pure o.o. I have 5 everything but strength and dexterity. My strength goes as high has the requirement for a Protection Helmet my level goes. Everything else gets dumped into dex.0
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AricLecious - Dreamweaver wrote: »I think I'm a pure o.o. I have 5 everything but strength and dexterity. My strength goes as high has the requirement for a Protection Helmet my level goes. Everything else gets dumped into dex.
That's definitely not pure. Helmets your level need a LOT more strength than Light Armor your level does. Helmets are level x 1.5 + 4 Str, LA is only level + 4 str.0
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