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Shadowmantle PvP Preview Patch Notes NW.14.20140204a.1
panderus
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New Feature
Leaver Penalty: Leaving a PVP match that is currently in progress will incur a leaver penalty for 30 minutes. During this time you may not queue for any content using the queue system. Only the first 2 players to leave a Domination match, or the first 5 players to leave a Gauntlgrym match on each team will be affected.
Classes and Balance
Items and Economy
Content and Environment
Known Issues
Leaver Penalty: Leaving a PVP match that is currently in progress will incur a leaver penalty for 30 minutes. During this time you may not queue for any content using the queue system. Only the first 2 players to leave a Domination match, or the first 5 players to leave a Gauntlgrym match on each team will be affected.
Classes and Balance
- Control Wizard: Maelstrom of Chaos: Fixed a bug allowing power to stun control immune targets.
- Great Weapon Fighter: Slam: Fixed a bug allowing Slam to interupt bosses and control immune players.
- Guardian Fighter: Crushing Surge: This power now properly respects Healing Depression in PvP.
- Tenacity no longer mentions that it affects armor penetration. (Text update only, functionally was already changed.)
Items and Economy
- Glory rewards for Domination levels 51+ have been reduced. The reduction is very small at level 51, and increases until level 60, where a Win has been reduced from 700 Glory to 500 Glory. The Glory bonus for placing in the top 5 has been similarly reduced. Glory rewards for Gauntylgrym have been reduced slightly, from 1,050 for a win to 1,000 for a win, and the Glory bonus for placing in the top 10 has been similarly reduced. Glory rewards for losing have also been reduced by the same amount.
- A new PvP currency, Seals of Triumph, has been added.
- Players may exchange unwanted Seals for 250 Glory in the Trade of Blades.
- The amount of Glory a character can store has been increased from 25,000 to 50,000.
- The Tier 2 PvP sets added in the last preview update have been removed from the game.
- Three new sets of Tier 2 “Grim” PvP armor have been made available per class for purchase via Glory & Seals of Triumph.
- Three new sets of Tier 2 “Profound” PvP armor have been made available per class for purchase via Glory & Seals of Triumph.
- Tenacity has been removed from Gauntlgrym armor sets.
- A temporary vendor, “Gauntlgrym Trader,” has been added to the Trade of Blades.
- Players may use this vendor to exchange unwanted Grym Coins for 50 Glory a piece.
- Players may use this vendor to exchange Tier 2 PvE “Gauntlgrym” equipment for Tier 2 PvP “Grim” equipment.
- Please note that this process cannot be reversed and that all item enchantments will be lost upon exchange.
- The names of some PvP accessories have been adjusted.
- The prices of some PvP equipment and accessories have been adjusted.
- Random equipment drops from leveling bracket (Lv10-59) domination matches now feature Tenacity.
- There is now an epic PvP equipment collections category.
- New titles have been added for the corresponding PvP sets.
- Potion of Heroism: Hunter Rangers now correctly benefit from this potion.
Content and Environment
- The daily quest “Daily PvP Domination Victory” now rewards Glory and a Seal of Triumph.
- The daily quest “Daily PvP Domination” now rewards Glory.
- The daily quest “Daily Gauntlgrym PvP” now rewards Glory and a Seal of Triumph.
- Additional mannequins displaying “Profound” armor sets have been added to the Trade of Blades.
Known Issues
- Currently, trading gear with the “Gauntlgrym Trader” can cause the loss of any enchantments slotted into the item.
- Hunter Ranger Tier 1 PvP gear is currently not available for purchase.
- Due to the removal of the newly added Tier 2 PvP gear from the last preview update, some players may have broken equipment in their inventory. It is safe to discard these items, we apologize for any inconvenience this change may cause.
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Does strike me as strange though, that T1 PvP items whose natural successors are T2 Grym items will have T1 still featuring Tenacity (Resilience) but the T2 pieces will not.
I suppose the 2 new sets may compensate in that regard, but some of these are modeled on the Grym items (especially the 4 set bonus), and they really are T3 as opposed to T2 stat wise and set bonus wise
Please no! please!
It's next to impossible to burst down Valindra before she kills the person she is choking.
Furthermore by the time you get to the portal there's next to no time to kill the target.
The only reason this dungeon was possible for maybe anybody besides the most elite of the elite players were because of this "bug."
Please do not put this live before re-evaluating the challenge of this dungeon!
I meant to write about that too actually.
When I was playing on holiday some months ago, due to the unstable connection, I kept seeing new chat lines, whilst unable to chat myself or act, with connecting to server timer ticking.
What I noticed about PvP matches at present is that:
1. If you get disconnected (have to login again), upon returning you are removed from the match, even if it was only for a few seconds ("you are no longer on your team")
2. If you crash or force close your game (alt+f4, task manager), you can login and return even 10 minutes later and just continue as if nothing had happened
Also, does this mean the Gauntlgrym sets will be unaffected by any changes compared to Live? There have been very many players planning and spending resources and time around the uncertainty caused by this issue. Please clarify.
So this will never make it to live? that's a real shame , an alternative way to spend GG coins once you have purchased everything you want with them would be welcome plus it would be a viable way for non PvPers to collect Glory in order to buy the PvP artifact which is useful in both PvP and PvE.
Welcome addition , The main reason I stopped playing domination was players who left.
Is there going to be a way to report afk players then? I'm all for the leaver penalty but that will just make people sit afk at the campfire when they start losing. So please also implement a system where you can report afk players and if multiple players on the same team report that person as afk (like a vote kick), then they get booted with the leavers penalty. I say "multiple players" to help prevent a single person from reporting somebody just to be a jerk. Or only have the person get booted if they have not moved after x amount of time or something like that.
Before the new Soulforged Enchantment that's probably true, but considering just how (over)powered it is in PvE at present, anyone with a lesser soulforged can just tank the choke and get away with it (because she doesn't usually choke again within 90 seconds). No need to revive anyone due to no downing there.
In regards to portals, the current playstyle means that usually there isn't even a single Unhallowed on the field at all. This would probably up the challenge on the fight slightly and requiring people to delegate 1 or more people to either tanking/kiting them or killing them.
Also, it would change the strategy from everyone bunching up to spreading out more to deal with portals.
I don't really see a drastic increase in difficulty to be honest here, especially if one or more players have even a lesser soulforged.
I suppose one change that I would suggest however, is to reduce the hitbox of Fulminorax to make targeting easier of Valindra/Portal
I don't see how that is a problem. Even if they left the game, the enemy team would still need to wait for the ticker to go to 1000 and don't insta win. Staying in Spawn (this isn't AFKing, because AFK = autokick after 2 minutes) is totally acceptable IMO if they have several deaths and the enemy team decides to gang them whenever they leave spawn.
She always continues choking me through soulforged the few times I die from her choking.
It's not difficult to burst her down, but whoever is currently friends with the dragon has to lead him away from her to make her targetable. If the party can manage that, she's fine.
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SIX FREAKING SETS! SO AWESOME!!!!!
I like this change. Bring a TR with some burst damage, that's what I've been doing when MC has been released. Get a good cleric who know what he's doing. Was doable with 11k chars and no artifacts. Now, it should be a walk in the park, even without these dailies.
First, any chance each collection can get a unique title instead all being either Profound Eliminator or Grim Skulker depending upon which tier it is.
Second, I think the Battlefield Skulker's Grim set should be changed to Grim Scoundrel in it's naming to be consistent with both the other Grim sets and the profound sets.
Finally, what is up with Lillend showing up in the collections with this build?
Profound Conquerer's Armor offers +45 stat points and +20% boost to the set bonus for +15k glory (+265%) and +8 Seals.
Profound Necklace of Smiting offers +13 stat points for +9,500 glory (+250%) and +2 seals
The Profound Set of the Preserver seems also BiS for defensive minded GFs in PVE, so you're not avoiding them flooding PVP to grind glory.
Indomitable Champion's Grim Armor is priced like the Profound ones.
I really had hoped you would give the dailies a nice amount of glory as reward. Casual players might only have time to do the dailies. Do you really want them to grind gear for 3+ months?
Suggestion-lets go ahead and remove any ad daily rewards from quests so no pve types will think twice about joining in a pvp match.
I keep telling myself they are only showing us a portion of the entire pvp mod on the horizon. From what I see here and on the preview the future of myself and neverwinter pvp does not look bright. I guess you cant be a casual PVPer
yes, they are. tenacity is part of the pvp addition. an elo matchmaking system is also coming, but not ready for testing. and the leaver penalty... probably more things as well. but until they're ready for preview, we won't know.
And we already know the new matchmaking system is on the way. It just ran into some issues so we haven't seen it on Mimic yet.
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Anyway, thanks for the new patch. I can only hope the matchmaking will be fully functional, cause 30 mins of penalty from all queues is STEEP, and without proper matchmaking people have a right to leave imbalanced lame matches.
hmmm ... I do not object to this change, but it's one less reason to have the new executioner style / battle awaraness .
I'm personally happy with the fix. As a couple people have said, bursting her down is incredibly easy, and now i dont have to be bugged by people to spec into it. I find it more fun to have to burst her down, not cheese it and 1 shot her away. People will learn to adapt, and this should have been fixed a very long time ago. Its a good change, in my opinion.
I don't like it. I PuG MC. I'm not in a guild. I don't have regular friends that I play with. I'm far too casual to keep up with most guilds, and most people who friend me I never end up playing with again...So I PuG everything. This was a strategy that allowed PuGs to succeed, as even with the "kill Valindra easy-mode" plenty of PuGs I play with fail the fight. Throw in even more complication and it's going to be awful to PuG. I'm not going to go look for a guild now. I'll likely just run MC even less.