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Think the OP is right. Certain Masterwork professions and then also some recipes were always harder to obtain, seemingly for random reasons. I think in MW1 it was Samite or something that made CW armor way more expensive than others etc. And back in Mod 1/2 the weapon resources were rumored to have different drop rates and…
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@litaaers I think the issue is a bit more complex than players = exploit = bad. I know some that relied on the overflow bag in certain situations for different reasons. Those now see one more QoL taken away. I think the number of those that relied on the overflow because the underlying system (bag space) is just crappy is…
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Since the term "dedicated" is pretty clearly part of a statement that cleverly tries to mask the fact that they have banned innocents, I wouldn't put too much weight on it. I personally do think some were released despite suspicious behavior, but that's only part of the truth behind the term. CS now handing out 14-day VIP…
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I predicted on the preview thread that this will cause a bit of heat. The devs simply do not incorporate such changes in a smart way. Bag space is an ongoing concern and every minor step back, even if it's only overflow, will blow up right in their face. It's no surprise and in a way happens rightfully so, because they…
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Wow we're solving mysteries here. RIP @dardove
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Accounts banned: <number> Accounts released on probation: <number> Accounts released because the manual verification showed they likely didn't bot: <number> Would be a start.
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To sum it up. PWE (@nitocris83) says there is no limit on accounts, except there might be one, which nobody is going to tell you and may move over time without further notice anyway. Ain't that just great? That's the definition of poo-poo and exactly why we're asking for some clarifications. We have a winner. Also please…
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@tripsofthrymr @nitocris83 People claim to have been banned for it. Also "household" is not accurate enough. Does it mean it's okay if different people play in the same "household". Or can one player have multiple accounts, given they do not violate the does with other actions?
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Thanks @beckylunatic, I didn't crawl as thoroughly as I should have. I searched for the quotes and couldn't pull them up. I'll stick to my initial point though. As presented the facts are made up, it's not an accurate representation of the discussion.
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It's not only that, most of the quote are made up. I'm sure these are things caught botters *could* say, but unfortunately it hasn't been posted on the source referred to. At least not publicly afaik.
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It's probably too much work for them. All you'll ever hear from the devs is how they have to manage resources. Team's always operating at an absolute maximum and a lot of what they do is the best possible solution within pretty severe limitations. Systems do not feel properly thought through because they probably missed…
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I think what @asterotg and others said can't be understated. As much as I agree that you can't reveal what behavior you're looking for when searching for botters, players gotta need some guidance of what's allowed and what's not. More than that, these things should be specified in the ToS, because in the end that's the…
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I'm pretty sure the public queues will remain non-viable. Most players recruit FBI not lower than 12k. Not saying it's what you need, but that's the reality in /lfg and all those private channels. I don't see why players would voluntarily put themselves into an 11k pug for the dungeon unless they like a challenge.
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Let's not forget the Resonator exploit where people got temporarily banned that had Resonators on the AH, but never participated in the actual exploit. Oops. CS back in the day acknowledged the error, but briefed players that sitting out the ban would be their best option because a manual investigation would likely take as…
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@ambisinisterr I guess what you're trying to say is that a few banned innocents are ok if a large amount of gold farmers got hit as well. This is a pitiful attitude to be honest, especially as community mod. I personally find it illogical to drag professional botters into the conversation just to make the numbers look…
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@ambisinisterr The only group we should care about and are subject of this thread and all the complaints are those you refer to as "vocal minority". With your clever wording (majority/minority) you make it sound like it's not a big thing when the absolute opposite is the case. Again: Nobody cares about Chinese farmers and…
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Hope they revise the series. It was only good for the two daily skirmish completions.
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I'm mildly amused where this trust might be coming from other than being naive. At this point the likelihood that the devs got it right is just not there. And the reason for that is not only the last two weeks, but a still growing history of mess-ups. I don't care how many valid bans this ban wave featured by the way. The…
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Even if, there's still so much room for improvement in handling the situation. As you've correctly pointed out, they can absolutely choose to be either more or less restrictive when it comes to deciding what behavior is being punished. They clearly went with a very broad approach, maybe even a wrong one, and probably knew…
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Then they better hope their lack of transparency doesn't affect their business I guess. Also it certainly doesn't stop us from calling them out. Can't be too comfortable if you're browsing your own forum and game sources and being mentioned as coward and idiot all the time. Maybe they don't care as business, but…
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Hey, I know how to shut everyone up. PWE just has to fill out these numbers: Total banned accounts: Total released accounts on probation: Total released accounts because a manual verification showed inconclusive evidence: Transparency is the main problem here. As long as they play stupid, no wonder people shake their…
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Well make that two things that the game happily exploits >:)
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@weaver936 Not saying you're wrong, but economy dynamics are hard to oversee for most, hence it's not something they credit to botters. @dread4moor I see why you would blame botters here, but swinging the nerf bat was the most convenient route the devs could take. Many of us have always challenged this approach because it…
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Prepare to run into a shitstorm with these overflow changes. People will feel that you're trying to sell bags even harder, and probably rightfully so.
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I think one major issue devs run into with these ban waves is that your casual player is largely unaffected by the botting of others. Let's be honest, I don't give a HAMSTER about them. It's not bothering me at all. Yes, they probably have lots and lots of ADs, but I know my chars are leveled legitimately, which is an…
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@btairborne Not sure what age has to do with the topic to be honest. If you're suggesting that you learn to accept and cope with certain facts over time, ok. But guess what, not all of us are just content and passive. Even if this leads to nothing, which in fact is very likely, I think any discussion is a net positive.…
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Feedback Overall these changes sounds like they make a lot of sense, thanks! As I've said in the other thread my only concern is that with even lower item level requirements in private groups, guilds could run into problems. Most guilds expect members to apply private queue rules in a public environment, meaning you take…
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Pretty much this. Doesn't speak of much confidence if you need the weekend as barrier between you and your customers.
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It's not only that they awkwardly trying to cover up their own mess. By not clearing up the situation they release players as potential botters on probation. What's happening if you are in a guild that takes exploiting very serious? The burden of proof always seems to be on the player with this game although the devs have…
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This is what I don't get, because a "pause" option or 1-day subscriptions would actually translate into more ZEN imho. You can kinda compare it to the ever-growing "on demand" services. People are less and less willing to buy into a long-term subscription, but more into "buy what you need when you need it", even if that…