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rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
Past level 60 it does not seem to give any raw astral diamonds. Is this intentional? If so, why take it away?
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Have they started giving XP rewards on preview invokes? It was doing neither the last time I was logged in there.

    The thing is that the AD and XP invoke rewards are fixed amounts granted according to character level, so once you level to 61, there were no rewards at all coded beyond the buff (scaled-by but not tied-to level - or should be if not showing as bugged), coins (not tied to level), and maybe a potion (tiered according to minimum level to use).

    I was under the impression they hadn't figured out yet how much it should be, though I'd suggest simply leaving the AD the way it is and maybe increasing the XP slightly (if trying to keep it so the first invoke of the day is equivalent to a quest turn-in at your level).
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  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    It does give XP past level 60, yes.
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  • rgladiatorgladiato Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Post this as a bug if you haven't already.
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  • panderuspanderus Member, NW_CrypticDev, Cryptic Developer Posts: 1,007 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2015
    The invocation system is receiving a rework, expect updates on this next week or so.
  • katamaster81899katamaster81899 Member Posts: 1,157 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    panderus wrote: »
    The invocation system is receiving a rework, expect updates on this next week or so.

    Any teaser information on that? You can't leave us hanging like this!
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  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    uuuuh now I'm curious!
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  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    panderus wrote: »
    The invocation system is receiving a rework, expect updates on this next week or so.


    Great, thanks for the response! Looking forward to more details.
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    panderus wrote: »
    The invocation system is receiving a rework, expect updates on this next week or so.

    Big ole panda tease.
  • hmdq#4491 hmdq Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    charononus wrote: »
    Big ole panda tease.

    great news!!!! hum...or not...who knows?! lol
  • ph33rm3ph33rm3 Member Posts: 549 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    panderus wrote: »
    The invocation system is receiving a rework, expect updates on this next week or so.

    OK. I want you to pander us. Give us a little more :)
  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    ph33rm3 wrote: »
    OK. I want you to pander us. Give us a little more :)

    Maybe in the patch notes for today's preview patch? Please?!?!?! :)
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  • panderuspanderus Member, NW_CrypticDev, Cryptic Developer Posts: 1,007 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2015
    rabbinicus wrote: »
    Maybe in the patch notes for today's preview patch? Please?!?!?! :)

    Nope, next week, sorry.

    Also, Ph33em3, that joke was bad and you should feel bad. But only a little bit because I still laughed.
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    This is on preview now , no idea if it is still subject to change -

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  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    panderus wrote: »
    Nope, next week, sorry.

    Also, Ph33em3, that joke was bad and you should feel bad. But only a little bit because I still laughed.

    Hmm, I don't seem to be able to invoke on Preview at all. A menu pops up with various options, but all are blank.
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  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    This is on preview now , no idea if it is still subject to change -

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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Mmm, looks like the intent is for different coffers tailored towards upgrading your choice of enchants, artifacts, *or* artifact equipment, but agreed that the name of the latter probably could stand a tweak.
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  • klangeddinklangeddin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    For the love of Moradin, remove those white rewards from the 7 days coffers.
    Do you understand it's a 7 days straight thing and that it's sadistic to add that chance (no matter how small) to get something useless on top of it? That's like adding insult to injury.
    Please. Be reasonable.
  • nurmoodnurmood Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    While you are at it you might consider removing xp gain from invoking or at least cut it in half...

    Hope to see changes to the vault of piety regarding Ardent Favours too!
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nurmood wrote: »
    While you are at it you might consider removing xp gain from invoking or at least cut it in half...

    Hope to see changes to the vault of piety regarding Ardent Favours too!

    Why? That wouldn't improve the game imo. Wouldn't hurt it much, but definitely would in no way be an improvement.
  • agcdphagcdph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    panderus wrote: »
    The invocation system is receiving a rework, expect updates on this next week or so.

    The invoke system does nothing on the rework. It shows 6 level of invokeing, all 10 sec apart, bur does not show anything for rewards and gives nothing, not rewards, xp, or AD.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    agcdph wrote: »
    The invoke system does nothing on the rework. It shows 6 level of invokeing, all 10 sec apart, bur does not show anything for rewards and gives nothing, not rewards, xp, or AD.
    We're not into next week yet. The patch notes says it's still not ready yet.
    • Invocation rewards and UI is receiving an update and does not currently work properly.
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nurmood wrote: »
    While you are at it you might consider removing xp gain from invoking or at least cut it in half...

    Hope to see changes to the vault of piety regarding Ardent Favours too!

    I don't see how cutting invoke XP down would really affect the game. At most you're getting two daily quests worth of XP. Hardly worth considering.
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  • nurmoodnurmood Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I don't see how cutting invoke XP down would really affect the game. At most you're getting two daily quests worth of XP. Hardly worth considering.

    Well i still think it is weird that you can level up a character with daily invocation. Also in my oppinion the lvl process is quite fast allready and doesnt motivate you to do extra content on the way -> invocation xp is at least part of the problem i think.

    For me personally it isnt that relevant - i dont have an "invocation army" and lvld several toons to 60 allready.
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nurmood wrote: »
    Well i still think it is weird that you can level up a character with daily invocation. Also in my oppinion the lvl process is quite fast allready and doesnt motivate you to do extra content on the way -> invocation xp is at least part of the problem i think.

    Do you have any idea how slow that would be? I did an experiment with it at one point, I think I got somewhere between 5-10 levels in a couple months, I got bored of the experiment at that point and wanted the prof slots to open so I just leveled him up normally. No one levels via invocation. It's just a nice little bonus especially for overflow xp.
  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    charononus wrote: »
    Do you have any idea how slow that would be? I did an experiment with it at one point, I think I got somewhere between 5-10 levels in a couple months, I got bored of the experiment at that point and wanted the prof slots to open so I just leveled him up normally. No one levels via invocation. It's just a nice little bonus especially for overflow xp.

    i do :D i level boring stuff like cleric by invoking and leadership. if profession UI didnt suck so much i would make a few more leadership alts that i would level through invoking

    lvl 50 and a half @ 122 ardent coins

    also it gives some overflow exp for alts i dont have time to play and lvled my Erinyes
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    charononus wrote: »
    No one levels via invocation. It's just a nice little bonus especially for overflow xp.
    Currently, eight of my characters are leveling purely through invocation and leadership. They're all now between 35-50 from this. Seven other characters of mine have went from level 11 to 60 from just invocation and leadership. This allows me to keep my alts leveling while focusing on my current level 60's. Usually every day, at least one of my non-60's levels up when they invoke for one of the first few invokes for the day.

    This also helps me to keep all my characters companions leveling as well. As well, I often get overflow levels on my current 60's when I do my invokes and professions. Each time I get a new level 60, I make at least one more character and level them to 11 right away, and then set them up on leadership and with altars for invocations by the bank.

    If they were to, which I doubt they would, take away experience from invocation, they would see me no longer buying character slots as much as I do now. For I would just not ever get around to leveling those characters for quite some time, as I wouldn't be getting new level 60's and not be tempted to start another new character.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Well I'll admit to being wrong then. But I stand by my opinion that it is a horribly inefficient way to level a character that takes far too long.
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