Dragonborn Token - Dragonborn Pack opinions.

l3g10nna1re · September 2014

So,

Logged in today and would you look at this ? seems Cryptic has went back on themselves and after even more money.

Dragon born Race Reroll Transform Token 2500 Zen (One reroll token and full dragon unlock)

The item which was asked for an stated would not be given is now given ?

Would of preferred paying 2500 Zen than the Huge amount of money alot of us paid pre launch

beckylunatic · September 2014

Actually, all the interviews really started to talk around the subject of a standalone. They were really avoiding committing to saying "never", which in businessspeak means "eventually... once enough people have bought the more expensive version".

Several of us said in the Dragonborn Pack thread that this was very likely to happen, eventually.

ironzerg79 · September 2014

Isn't this a good thing? Weren't there a lot of complaints by people who said they'd pay for just the Dragonborn unlock, and nothing in the pack?

zahinder · September 2014

Is there anything cool about dragonborn other than having an extra +2 to any stat?

Anyone think that's worth $25?

l3g10nna1re · September 2014

ironzerg79 wrote: »

Isn't this a good thing? Weren't there a lot of complaints by people who said they'd pay for just the Dragonborn unlock, and nothing in the pack?

Yeah it is good but if I knew this was coming I wouldn't of wasted 77 GBP on an item where 19 GBP would get me what I wanted......

iambecks1 · September 2014

Won't use it myself but it is a good thing for people who really wanted to play Dragonborn but couldn't afford the full pack , kudos cryptic.

sockmunkey · September 2014

So I guess we can finally lay to rest the whole 75$ for a race nonsense. It was always 75 for a large sack of goodies and a race unlock. I for one, don't feel ripped off by this. I bought the pack for the goodies alone. I personally think the stand alone race pack is a good thing.

ironzerg79 · September 2014

l3g10nna1re wrote: »

Yeah it is good but if I knew this was coming I wouldn't of wasted 77 GBP on an item where 19 GBP would get me what I wanted......

Well, if you've gotten use out of the extra character slot, the 30 slot bag for all your toons, purple artifact for all your toons, the reroll token AND the Dragonborn race, it wasn't a total waste, right?

Honestly, if you put the two options in front of me, I'd probably had still gone with the $75 for the extras, versus $25 for just the race.

fantom3n · September 2014

Alright, first off.. I was one of those that saw the new dragonborn race and went "wooooow" and just KNEW i had to get one. So ofcourse i saved up some cash and spent them on the new pack, only for that reason, to get the new exclusive race. All fine and happy, until today..

WHAT on earth was the marketing team thinking here? There's now a token that gives you that race/re-roll token for a low 2500 ZEN? The same race i exclusively paid 75$ of my hard-earned money to get. Only to now discover i could have gotten it for less than HALF that price by purchasing ZEN?

I would lie if i didn't say im slightly disappointed and feel ripped of here. And surely i can't be the only one. Why the heck couldn't you guys have released that token at the same time as the pack? Remove my dragonborn pack items from my account, give me my cash back and i will gladly buy 2500 ZEN instead! This is madness.. seriously. I'm unemployed, so just getting those money to support the game and get that race was hard on me. PLEASE?! Think before acting.

myowmyow · September 2014

Basically, the developers actually read the negative feedback on this forum and gave the majority what they wanted. Sure, it seems unfair because of how it was communicated when the special pack was first introduced, but that is more of an issue about Cryptic/PWE thinking VERY carefully about their proper choice of wording before advertising something that costs real money.

To the developers: Thanks for listening to feedback and taking proper action!

l3g10nna1re · September 2014

for others perhaps

for myself:

1: Slot I didnt need as i have 3
2: Bag i didnt need as all my toons have +2 first sacks and 3 Greaters
3: Onloy Rerolled one to Dragon GWF
4: the Race reroll bugged and ddnt allow me to change Stats CS gave me the usual copy paste nonsense

So no the 19-25 GBP would have been much better for myself

silence1x · September 2014

sockmunkey wrote: »

I bought the pack for the goodies alone. I personally think the stand alone race pack is a good thing.

This ^

/10chars

evalira · September 2014

It's ******* ugly as is the Halfling. I don't care if it no.2's peridots (like most else in the game.) I want to look like a barbie doll/action man, courtesy of the new char gen.

fantasycharacter · September 2014

ironzerg79 wrote: »

Isn't this a good thing? Weren't there a lot of complaints by people who said they'd pay for just the Dragonborn unlock, and nothing in the pack?

yes, people asked for this.

I think it's a good thing.

lewstelamon01 · September 2014

Um...no, you're not paying 75 dollars for just the Dragonborn race. You're paying 75 dollars for an accountwide bag, a fashion set, several dragon glyphs, and other items.

EDIT: I stand corrected on the necessity of buying the pack.... http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/7007813

kozi001 · September 2014

What 2500 zen? It seems a race change token is the old 1500 zen to me.

beckylunatic · September 2014

Judging by forum posts, there is a new Zen item with the Dragonborn race unlock, bundled with a reroll token, for 2500 Zen. But it's not visible in Gateway yet.

Edit: Ah. News post
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/7007813-now-available%3A-dragonborn-%2B-race-reroll-bundle

fantom3n · September 2014

As I mentioned, I did not want to buy the pack for any of it's other useless items. (Yes, in my opinion they are not worth that amount of cash) I bought it just to get the dragonborn race, to make a GF out of it. But now it feels like i threw away my money.

lewstelamon01 wrote: »

Um...no, you're not paying 75 dollars for just the Dragonborn race. You're paying 75 dollars for an accountwide bag, a fashion set, several dragon glyphs, and other items.

EDIT: I stand corrected on the necessity of buying the pack.... http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/7007813

fantom3n · September 2014

Please read in the news what the dragonborn token contains.

kozi001 wrote: »

What 2500 zen? It seems a race change token is the old 1500 zen to me.

sexwax45 · September 2014

sockmunkey wrote: »

So I guess we can finally lay to rest the whole 75$ for a race nonsense. It was always 75 for a large sack of goodies and a race unlock. I for one, don't feel ripped off by this. I bought the pack for the goodies alone. I personally think the stand alone race pack is a good thing.

+1, If given the option i would still get the $75 pack, as my dragonborn is still lvl 1...

ironzerg79 · September 2014

As Lewie pointed out, the $75 Dragonborn pack has A LOT more in it than just the race. Did you use the extra account-wide bag? Character slot? Enchantments? Fashion sets? Account-wide purple artifact? Plus the actual Dragonborn race?

Here, you just get the race.

And what I don't understand is a couple months ago, the board was up in arms over having a "$75 race". I can't count the number of times that someone posted "I'd HAPPILY pay like $10 for a new race".

Well, Cryptic listened to the feedback, and viola! You have the $10 race (bundled with a $15 race reroll token).

So I don't get where the anger is coming from. Cryptic did EXACTLY what the players asked for, even down to the price tag.

lewstelamon01 · September 2014

fantom3n wrote: »

As I mentioned, I did not want to buy the pack for any of it's other useless items. (Yes, in my opinion they are not worth that amount of cash) I bought it just to get the dragonborn race, to make a GF out of it. But now it feels like i threw away my money.

Nevertheless, you cannot say "I paid 75 dollars for just the race". It's a subjective statement that the facts of the matter clearly rebut. And I wouldn't exactly call a 30 slot accountwide bag "useless", considering you can't buy a bag that size in the ZEN shop.

canis36 · September 2014

lewstelamon01 wrote: »

Nevertheless, you cannot say "I paid 75 dollars for just the race". It's a subjective statement that the facts of the matter clearly rebut. And I wouldn't exactly call a 30 slot accountwide bag "useless", considering you can't buy a bag that size in the ZEN shop.

That and the bags in the Zen shop are one-off purchases. The Dragonhoard bag is an account wide. Now if you're just running two or three characters that's not a big deal. Me? I'm running...oh about eight right now. And even if I play some of them infrequently I do play all of them. Not one of those characters is a Leadership alt.

pointsman · September 2014

ironzerg79 wrote: »

As Lewie pointed out, the $75 Dragonborn pack has A LOT more in it than just the race. Did you use the extra account-wide bag? Character slot? Enchantments? Fashion sets? Account-wide purple artifact? Plus the actual Dragonborn race?

Here, you just get the race.

And what I don't understand is a couple months ago, the board was up in arms over having a "$75 race". I can't count the number of times that someone posted "I'd HAPPILY pay like $10 for a new race".

Well, Cryptic listened to the feedback, and viola! You have the $10 race (bundled with a $15 race reroll token).

So I don't get where the anger is coming from. Cryptic did EXACTLY what the players asked for, even down to the price tag.

No kidding.

myowmyow · September 2014

ironzerg79 wrote: »

And what I don't understand is a couple months ago, the board was up in arms over having a "$75 race". I can't count the number of times that someone posted "I'd HAPPILY pay like $10 for a new race".

Well, Cryptic listened to the feedback, and viola! You have the $10 race (bundled with a $15 race reroll token).

So I don't get where the anger is coming from. Cryptic did EXACTLY what the players asked for, even down to the price tag.

Exactly! It does stink for those that bought the pack solely for the new race thinking this was their only chance to get it. Cryptic/PWE should have thought more carefully about how they worded the announcement. The bottom line is that at least they listened to the complaints and acted on them! It is always good to see that happen!

geeq5 · September 2014

lewstelamon01 wrote: »

And I wouldn't exactly call a 30 slot accountwide bag "useless", considering you can't buy a bag that size in the ZEN shop.

To each their own! to you it might be really worth it, but to him it useless, i guess i fell in the the same boat as him, and that mostly because i could care less about bag space.

hfgtfsdfs · September 2014

wow. I dont know what to say to this. Once again they rip people off. I paid 7500 for the RACE and the exclusivity. The rest in the pack was something that followed but I did not want or needed and wouldn't have spent zen on it. Most of the items in the pack is useless and not even worth the 5000 ZEN extra.

Ring of the Dragon Slayer - Useless
Draconic Enchantment - Useless
Gemfinder Enchantment <- I DID NOT EVEN GET THIS.
Race Change Token
Dragon Glyphs - Useless
Extra Character Slot - Useless
Dragonborn Ceremonial Fashion - ugly as hell - - Useless
30 Slot Bag - If it had 40 slots it might have been something I would have paid zen for.
Bahamut Regalia - Useless

I guess I learned something new today. Dont buy anything for a large amount of zen because a few weeks later you can get it for reduced price. Also I learned that Cryptic/Perfectworld screws you over. They should have released this the first the so that people could choose what they wanted not to force them to buy epxensive useless items they dont want or need.

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ironzerg79 · September 2014

hfgtfsdfs wrote: »

wow. I dont know what to say to this. Once again they rip people off. I paid 7500 for the RACE and the exclusivity. The rest in the pack was something that followed but I did not want or needed and wouldn't have spent zen on it. Most of the items in the pack is useless and not even worth the 5000 ZEN extra.

Ring of the Dragon Slayer - Useless
Draconic Enchantment - Useless
Gemfinder Enchantment <- I DID NOT EVEN GET THIS.
Race Change Token
Dragon Glyphs - Useless
Extra Character Slot - Useless
Dragonborn Ceremonial Fashion - ugly as hell - - Useless
30 Slot Bag - If it had 40 slots it might have been something I would have paid zen for.
Bahamut Regalia - Useless

I guess I learned something new today. Dont buy anything for a large amount of zen because a few weeks later you can get it for reduced price. Also I learned that Cryptic/Perfectworld screws you over. They should have released this the first the so that people could choose what they wanted not to force them to buy epxensive useless items they dont want or need.

Well, looks like you made a really, really bad decision to spend $75 on "just a race" since you valued everything else at zero.

But that's not Cryptic's fault.

They heard the complaints from their customers loud and clear, and they delivered.

My advice to you is next time you see something and say "Wow, that's not worth the money!" don't buy it.

fantom3n · September 2014

Try to see it from my perspective, that the fact still remains i did not bother about those other items the pack contains, but bought it to get the race alone and that is what i wanted to use. Most of the items still remains untouched at the vendor.

And when i now see there's a cheaper option only weeks after, ofcourse i will react to it and feel cheated upon when i could have saved money just buying that. Why was this token not introduced right away instead? Or better yet, not introduced at all. The Dragonborn race should have stayed more exclusive imo.

ryugasirius · September 2014

sexwax45 wrote: »

+1, If given the option i would still get the $75 pack, as my dragonborn is still lvl 1...

Same here, I don't even have Dragonborn, but I enjoyed every bit of the $75 pack.

If given the option I would get the full pack and sell the race on AH, but I can't sadly :P

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