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dnn259
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 27 Arc User
I think I might take a break until mod 5 due to the fact that CWs are so ridiculously broken now. Basically if the CW lands his first CC, you're pretty much dead unless you have no CC break or that new artifact. Yep, I'm talking about a whole 5-6 seconds of Crowd Control here, I'm a 14k GS with 20% tenacity and 26k HP Whisperknife TR (yes, I do have a CC break called Vengeance Pursuit but guess what? It sucks, just compare it with other CC break skills and you will understand) and I normally die at the 4th or 5th second if the CW is well-geared. Heavily geared GWFs used to do that but not anymore and they're melee. I'm just so frustrated right now.
Also, take a look at the leaderboard and you'll see. Either most kills or most wins, CWs are accounted for 3/5 in the first 10 pages (should be even more if more pages are taking into consideration). There are 20 players in the "most kill" first page, and 12 of them are CWs. 8 other players are from 6 other classes. Was it like this before module 4? No.
So yea, I hope I made my point. This is my first Cryptic/PWE game, anyway. I didn't know what to expect but I guess I do, now.
P/s: A guildmate CW just told me that CW's freezing is no longer broken with damages anymore. I guess that's why.
Also, take a look at the leaderboard and you'll see. Either most kills or most wins, CWs are accounted for 3/5 in the first 10 pages (should be even more if more pages are taking into consideration). There are 20 players in the "most kill" first page, and 12 of them are CWs. 8 other players are from 6 other classes. Was it like this before module 4? No.
So yea, I hope I made my point. This is my first Cryptic/PWE game, anyway. I didn't know what to expect but I guess I do, now.
P/s: A guildmate CW just told me that CW's freezing is no longer broken with damages anymore. I guess that's why.
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If you do take a break from the game just check back for the patch updates every so often. They will add fixes to things in between modules. And Mod 5 might not come out until the end of the year.
I understand your frustration as other classes have been stupid OP in PvP before. There seems to always be at least one class that just stands out as OP in every module.
Some people will tell you to get more HP, and High deflect and just basically build defensively. And that is good advice. But the issue is that some things still need to be tweaked to bring CWs down a bit and the game will be one step closer to being balanced.
PVPer rocking it Solo queue style since the dawn of Neverwinter
since you are a poor wisperknife with only 26k hp who count on a daily to escape control lol !
This is the big problem in this game , weak players duel against players that outgear them then come here to cry !
Yes , dear devs plz fix us (cws) so we can pvp in peace and see if everyone will be happy or jump to cry about another class !
This is your issue right there.
- no ITC
- bad spec
- extremely low HP
Try MI permastealth with about 35-40K HP+ and your results will improve dramatically.
I don't know what is going on, but have you noticed how everything is dying so fast now, regardless of defensive stats? My GF has 40k HP, 47% DR, 26% deflec and 20% Tenacity and he can barely tank a node anymore. Not just CWs, but ranged HRs can easily drive me off of a node. 3 - 4 hits from them and I am in serious trouble. After last night I started missing the days of holding off a Mod 3 GWF in a prolonged melee scrap. Now, everything just melts. I can wreck things in a rotation, CWs still melt me after the patch, HRs can snipe you to death in 3 - 4 hits, I don't know what is going on. Fights last 10 seconds.
Storm spell is still there and cws are still melting people with ray of frost.
Thats not even the problem its Storm spell class feat it procs way to much and dose a insane amount of dmg.
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Yeah umm this was a case of them nerfing the wrong thing like anyone that actually plays a cw could have told them. Assailant wasn't what was insta melting people. So now Assailant is worse, with no change in the situation because you guys ask for nerfs and rage without understanding what is actually going on and the dev's listen to your ignorant rage for some odd reason.
Thanks for answering in advance
i don't think they do, the devs listen to ignorance, they're just ignorant themselves
they just don't test ****
it's becoming really frustrating
there is no indication that these devs play pvp, or play it well, or test pvp
High CON roll - almost always gonna be a Halfling with ~20 CON -, Radiants in defensive slots, jewellery that gives HP and that new artifact belt that gives +1/+2/+3/+4 CON as you level it. Then the campfire buff and the various potions and elixirs that raise your ability scores by +1. I saw an HR with 47k HP last night.
True in the OP's case, but PVP-specced players are reporting the same thing.
Eleanor - CW (retired after Assailing nerf)
- Brazil PvP Fraternité -
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
A shame but it is going to happen
Have a happy game all
Mod 12.5 PvP Power/Crit/Arp Optimization
Youtube channel (PvE/PvP)
yup q times says it all
no one wants to pvp
getting one shot by cw is what ruins it for most people and same time u cant do nothing
its way worse then tr before the nerf they had 20k hp glass cannon builds
after first atack tr was dead
cw has sustained high burst dmg
its crazy
eather tone down dmg or survival
I think it's you who needs to learn to play.
Being a 17.3 gs gf with 47k hp, 46% dr, 21% tenacity and full pvp spec but dieing in 5 seconds from a pve cw is just pathetic. Also most cw control powers go through gf shield so once they use icey rays that's it I'm dead, I can't move they freeze me, lift then kill me. Also cw shield is making them more like tanks, even a full rotation sometimes only just breaks through shield so by time your powers are back so is there shield.
Cw in mod 3 was terrible, I never lost to one so I am glad they got a buff and I want a challenge from them but atm they are just too strong, being a "tank class" and dieing that fast to a control class makes no sense.
I hope Cw gets fixed, till very strong in pvp but just not able to have so much dmg, the only class that comes close is hr but they have to get in close to deal that much.
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Devs should recruit some pvp players for ideas, now I'm talking good pvp players who know about all classes and want balance so the game could finally start heading somewhere for pvp because the devs don't seem to know much about pvp.
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PvP and PvE need to be handled differently. The status quo of general nerfs hits very hard in PvE.
I heard from Akromatik in a podcast that the Devs PVP amongst themselves almost everyday. Not sure how much that's worth, but there you go.
Yes I understand this but it isn't hard to make all classes balanced for both....the devs just do it wrong, they take away cw aoe and give them best single dmg in the game lol. They make a cw and hr more tanky than most other chars.
My 12k gs new hr can beat gwf players up to 19k gs.....that is not balance.
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Even if it reduced 30% of all damage it wouldn't mitigate damage as GWFs and GFs do. Shield is very far for being a "tank power".
The OPness of CWs is totally unrelated to the Shield; what you see right now is a useless power now being able to do something.